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Drop kick for extra point?

LittleZGiants98 : 5/22/2015 4:39 am
So I finally pulled the trigger and registered an account with Big Blue after years of reading all your posts. My brother has been a member for a long time and I'm excited to be involved! ANYWAY, does anybody remember Doug Flutie's last game? When he DROP KICKED an extra point? My question is whether or not that would still be possible from the two yard line lined up for what seems to be a 2pt play to make it easier? Not saying Eli is the guy for this job but could be possible with the kicker taking the snap. I still think it's a good rule change to make it more interesting but having this other option could be viable. I totally posted this in the other thread by mistake so sorry about my newbie mistake
I think that would have been a much better - and more entertaining -  
truebluelarry : 5/22/2015 7:51 am : link
solution to the point-afters than moving it out farther.
The drop  
dorgan : 5/22/2015 8:52 am : link
kick died a natural death when they changed the shape of the ball.


I read Ken Strong's book on kicking last fall.  
truebluelarry : 5/22/2015 10:39 am : link
In there he said that the shape of the ball is an overrated argument not to drop kick, which really surprised me. In fact, he said drop kicking gave the offence an advantage of having 10 blockers on the line of scrimmage whereas there are only nine for a place kick as a holder is required to set the ball.

Strong drop kicked and place kicked in college, but place kicked exclusively in the pros. There is no question that drop kicking decreased dramatically after the ball reached its final dimensions in 1934, but there were some players who continued to drop kick. Earl "Dutch" Clark was one of the best and drop kicked until his retirement until 1938. He was the last of the greats in that regard.
Interesting look at technique at Flutie in 2005.  
truebluelarry : 5/22/2015 11:11 am : link
He used a slight sidewinder/soccer-style approach to the ball and used his instep for contact rather than the top of his foot.

He may have done this for better control and accuracy with the modern ball.






My son's long snapping coach  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5/22/2015 11:16 am : link
regularly bounces the ball on its end back to his hand.

Once you have the knack of it, it is easy to execute.
I'd love to see  
dorgan : 5/22/2015 11:33 am : link
the punter drop kick for an onside kick attempt after a safety.
It would completely surprise the other team, doesn't have to be accurate, just dribbled 10 yards and I've only seen it once. That particular time, the ball was mishit and went out of bounds.

I think in the right situation it could be a turning point in a game.
RE: I'd love to see  
truebluelarry : 5/22/2015 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12297577 dorgan said:
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the punter drop kick for an onside kick attempt after a safety.
It would completely surprise the other team, doesn't have to be accurate, just dribbled 10 yards and I've only seen it once. That particular time, the ball was mishit and went out of bounds.

I think in the right situation it could be a turning point in a game.


Didn't the Jets try that against the Giants in 2011? Is that the game you're referring to?

With all the talk about drop kicking, noone mentioned Odell Beckham  
bigfish703 : 5/24/2015 9:26 am : link
He was deadly accurate from 33 yards in the video I saw. Of course that was only fooling around and there was no pressure on him. If Beckham were to line up after a safety, that would be a dead give away, or would it?

For all I know, he could probably punt 80 yards. With everything else he has shown he can do, that would not surprise me, but it would surprise the opposing team.
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