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BBI Update on Will Beatty with quotes from agent/doctor

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2015 9:26 am
FYI.
New York Giants Confirm Will Beatty Will Miss 5-6 Months - ( New Window )
The bye seems...  
Chris in Philly : 5/22/2015 12:57 pm : link
perfectly timed for this. At least we'll have him for 6 games. Maybe he even gets back for the New England game, but after the bye seems to make a lot more sense...
When I see him back on the field,  
MOOPS : 5/22/2015 1:10 pm : link
I'll believe the timetable. Until then I'm not holding out too much hope for Beatty this season.
I wouldn't hold any hope.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/22/2015 1:30 pm : link
I generally lean optimistic for injuries, but you're talking about 5-6 months of probably not being able to work on your upper body strength. For a tackle who isn't very big to begin with, that could be huge.
Will Beatty's Agent  
est1986 : 5/22/2015 1:42 pm : link
Has to be rooting against Ereck Flowers. Beatty getting cut can save us how much exactly? We need to resign Manning, JPP, and Prince
RE: Will Beatty's Agent  
Optimus-NY : 5/22/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12297791 est1986 said:
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Has to be rooting against Ereck Flowers. Beatty getting cut can save us how much exactly? We need to resign Manning, JPP, and Prince


If you cut him next year (as a Pre-June 1st cut), then the Giants will gain $4,175,000 in cap savings. If they designate him as a post-June 1st cut, then the Giants will gain $6,675,000 in cap savings. Please see the link below:


William Beatty's salary cap page - OverTheCap.com - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Will Beatty's Agent  
Hammer : 5/22/2015 5:30 pm : link
In comment 12298004 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 12297791 est1986 said:


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Has to be rooting against Ereck Flowers. Beatty getting cut can save us how much exactly? We need to resign Manning, JPP, and Prince



If you cut him next year (as a Pre-June 1st cut), then the Giants will gain $4,175,000 in cap savings. If they designate him as a post-June 1st cut, then the Giants will gain $6,675,000 in cap savings. Please see the link below:
William Beatty's salary cap page - OverTheCap.com - ( New Window )


I believe that we will not see Beatty in Blue again.
Torn pec  
mrvax : 5/22/2015 5:50 pm : link
Having been a gym rat since the 80's, I've seen torn pecs once in a while.
If Beatty was just a guy, not a NFL player, sure he'd be fine in a few months. 100% back to normal work, etc.

For weight lifers/gym folks, it normally means a year w/o heavy lifting.

I'd think that of all the positions in football, an offensive lineman probably uses his chest muscles the most to fend off an attack and push, shove.
Guys, he will not be productive this season.  
EricJ : 5/22/2015 5:52 pm : link
when he gets back, he is going to be a marshmallow. Unable to work out with his upper body for the next 6 months or longer. He will get steam rolled.
RE: Guys, he will not be productive this season.  
Earl the goat : 5/22/2015 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12298139 EricJ said:
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when he gets back, he is going to be a marshmallow. Unable to work out with his upper body for the next 6 months or longer. He will get steam rolled.


Totally agree. Time to move on from this guy
RE: RE: Will Beatty's Agent  
Mike in Philly : 5/22/2015 6:26 pm : link
In comment 12298004 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 12297791 est1986 said:


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Has to be rooting against Ereck Flowers. Beatty getting cut can save us how much exactly? We need to resign Manning, JPP, and Prince



If you cut him next year (as a Pre-June 1st cut), then the Giants will gain $4,175,000 in cap savings. If they designate him as a post-June 1st cut, then the Giants will gain $6,675,000 in cap savings. Please see the link below:
William Beatty's salary cap page - OverTheCap.com - ( New Window )

According to that salary page, if they cut him post-June 1st THIS year, they'd gain $4.9 million in cap space NOW.
Mike in Philly  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2015 8:43 pm : link
they can't cut him. He got injured in a football activity. Beatty would have to agree to an injury settlement and there is no reason for him to do that.
Guess OL in 1st round is looking more and more like the right  
baadbill : 5/23/2015 12:14 am : link
choice position wise.
3 things:  
Optimus-NY : 5/23/2015 12:42 am : link
1 - This further proves Beatty is not long for this team, and the Flowers decision was wise. Imagine this team without Flowers now? Not a comforting thought.

2 - Beatty will most likely be getting the Luke Petitgout treatment next off-season circa the off-season following 2006.

3 - The Giants would be wise to pick another OL high--again--in the draft next year (round 1 or 2).
RE: Mike in Philly  
Optimus-NY : 5/23/2015 12:42 am : link
In comment 12298294 Eric from BBI said:
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they can't cut him. He got injured in a football activity. Beatty would have to agree to an injury settlement and there is no reason for him to do that.


Exactly.
I don't see why  
fkap : 5/23/2015 7:18 am : link
this injury should seal the deal for beatty's exit. He's had a few injuries, but nothing really chronic.

now if you want to say Beatty hasn't been performing well enough, and that he'll likely see IR, then be replaced on the timetable BBI had already set, you might have a point.

maybe it's just semantics, but I don't see this injury hastening his departure. IF they were planning on keeping him, they'll keep him. IF they were planning on getting rid of him after this season, they'll still get rid of him after this season (or give him an injury settlement for getting rid of him sooner - same difference from a Giants perspective)

As for the injury settlement: on the one hand, he'll make a good buck if he just says "IR me and give me my year's salary". On the other hand, IF I understand injury settlements correctly, he could get a payday from the settlement, then resume his career with a new team later this season, getting a head start on the rest of his career, making it possible he'd accept the settlement.
RE: Mike in Philly  
Mike in Philly : 5/23/2015 7:59 am : link
In comment 12298294 Eric from BBI said:
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they can't cut him. He got injured in a football activity. Beatty would have to agree to an injury settlement and there is no reason for him to do that.

Thanks Eric. I hadn't realized that until you posted it on another thread.
here is the issue regarding Beatty.  
George from PA : 5/23/2015 8:25 am : link
If we need him back when he is healthy.....probably means bad things are going on with the team.

If we don't need him when he gets back healthy.....probably means the end of Beattys career as a Giants.
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