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NFT: Photo of Andrew McCutcheon's pay stub

AJ23 : 5/22/2015 10:36 am
Pretty interesting... and depressing



Let's Take A Look At Andrew McCutchen's Pay Stub (Deadspin) - ( New Window )
Sorry, McCutchen  
AJ23 : 5/22/2015 10:37 am : link
Not McCutcheon
....  
26.2 : 5/22/2015 10:44 am : link
crazy amount of money, but almost 1/2 of it gone in taxes and deductions. and WTF is a "Pittsburg professional athlete fee" thing? almost $10k! and that's just for 1/2 the month.
interesting to see how they get hit for taxes  
mfsd : 5/22/2015 10:45 am : link
for working in so many different states during a given year

...  
26.2 : 5/22/2015 10:47 am : link
also, I wonder if he gets paid all year or only during the season. perhaps they can choose kind of like teachers can (at least they can in VA).
they overwitheld his social security tax  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 10:49 am : link
by $93 on the year. Plus he has him set up filing single with 1 deduction, that is a pretty high rate. Once he gets in to do his return he will see a good portion of that back from federal and several of those states.

I like that he funds his 401k  
Deej : 5/22/2015 11:06 am : link
$1500 at a time.
RE: ...  
koko2315 : 5/22/2015 11:09 am : link
In comment 12297513 26.2 said:
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also, I wonder if he gets paid all year or only during the season. perhaps they can choose kind of like teachers can (at least they can in VA).


fairly certain MLB pays from opening day to beginning of playoffs.
tax question  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/22/2015 11:17 am : link
If McCutchen plays a doubleheader in another state, is he taxed by that state for twice the amount than for a single game in another state?
RE: ....  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:18 am : link
In comment 12297506 26.2 said:
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crazy amount of money, but almost 1/2 of it gone in taxes and deductions. and WTF is a "Pittsburg professional athlete fee" thing? almost $10k! and that's just for 1/2 the month.
It is 3% of income earned while performing in a venue built or maintained with public money. It is for non-residents only and could avoid it by living in the city of Pittsburgh. Or if the Pirates built and maintained the stadium they would not have to pay.
RE: tax question  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:20 am : link
In comment 12297557 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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If McCutchen plays a doubleheader in another state, is he taxed by that state for twice the amount than for a single game in another state?
Taxes are based on earnings. Does he get paid by day or by game? If he gets paid by day of the year, taxes would be the same for a double header because his earnings would be the same. If baseball players get paid per game, then he would pay double because he is paid double.
Here is an  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:26 am : link
old article on this that has some interesting information.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: tax question  
Mad Mike : 5/22/2015 11:33 am : link
In comment 12297557 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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If McCutchen plays a doubleheader in another state, is he taxed by that state for twice the amount than for a single game in another state?

Most states do it based on days, not games. So a doubleheader would reduce the taxes owed to that state compared to two single games. (Obviously whether that benefits the player would depend on how that state's tax rate compares to his resident state's rate). A few states do it based on games played, so there would be no difference between a double header and two single games.
Hades  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/22/2015 11:34 am : link
right, that is what I was asking, effectively: are athletes taxed per day or per game. It seems that they are taxed based upon "duty days"
http://www.accountingweb.com/article/update-tax-man-mlb-take-me-out-ball-game/221491 - ( New Window )
RE: I like that he funds his 401k  
YAJ2112 : 5/22/2015 11:45 am : link
In comment 12297546 Deej said:
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$1500 at a time.


Well, considering there's an 18K cap per year and he gets paid 2x a month for 6 months I'm not sure how else you would think it should be funded.
2 things  
Deej : 5/22/2015 11:45 am : link
first, what do they do for guys on the DL. If the team is playing in NYC, but he is on the DL, did he earn his money in NY or in PA?

second, that 3% tax seems fucked up. If he is subject to local income tax that everyone pays, fine. But a specific tax targeting athletes seems like dumb policy. I'd be pretty pissed if I was traded to the Pirates.
If I get a professional athlete as a client...  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:47 am : link
...I'll know a lot more about this (and likely be able to afford that kitchen remodel I want) and tell you all more about it.
RE: 2 things  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:48 am : link
In comment 12297597 Deej said:
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first, what do they do for guys on the DL. If the team is playing in NYC, but he is on the DL, did he earn his money in NY or in PA?

second, that 3% tax seems fucked up. If he is subject to local income tax that everyone pays, fine. But a specific tax targeting athletes seems like dumb policy. I'd be pretty pissed if I was traded to the Pirates.
it applies to entertainers visiting the city as well.
Deej  
Hades07 : 5/22/2015 11:51 am : link
...if the teams want to have cities build the stadiums, then why not tax the teams and players that use it more? Like a toll on the turnpike, you use it, you pay.

Would you prefer living in Scranton when the Eagles decided to move there and have a stadium built and then have your taxes go up to 3% locally?
RE: I like that he funds his 401k  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/22/2015 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12297546 Deej said:
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$1500 at a time.


Isn't there a maximum contribution to a 401k per year?

I don't think you can exceed 20K per year.
I had a buddy who played for the pirates  
bhill410 : 5/22/2015 12:12 pm : link
He was telling me the other day how they would charge him like 250 a day just to wash his uniform. Pretty insane
RE: I had a buddy who played for the pirates  
Chris in Philly : 5/22/2015 12:52 pm : link
In comment 12297655 bhill410 said:
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He was telling me the other day how they would charge him like 250 a day just to wash his uniform. Pretty insane


It's like the A's having coin-operated soda and water vending machines in the locker room...
I like..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/22/2015 12:57 pm : link
that "Season Meal Money" is deducted.

Geez. I'm surprised the Pirates aren't charging for bats, balls and cleats.

If I'm getting tagged for meal money, I'm going up to the owner's box and raid the fridge every other game.
figures that the As would do something like that  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2015 1:05 pm : link
The spirit of Charlie Finley lives on in Oakland.
they get a stipend  
MookGiants : 5/22/2015 1:15 pm : link
per day while on the road for meals and shit. It's handed to them in cash on the road. Then it gets deducted
RE: I like..  
WideRight : 5/22/2015 1:17 pm : link
In comment 12297714 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that "Season Meal Money" is deducted.

Geez. I'm surprised the Pirates aren't charging for bats, balls and cleats.

If I'm getting tagged for meal money, I'm going up to the owner's box and raid the fridge every other game.



Weird that the 273.75 deduction for meal money as the 273.75 credit for meals during the pay period. As pointed out in the article, per diem is 100.70/day and he was on the road for 8 or 9 days.

It sounds to me like his contract had some provisions that pre-empt the meal money.
RE: Deej  
Deej : 5/22/2015 1:17 pm : link
In comment 12297617 Hades07 said:
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...if the teams want to have cities build the stadiums, then why not tax the teams and players that use it more? Like a toll on the turnpike, you use it, you pay.

Would you prefer living in Scranton when the Eagles decided to move there and have a stadium built and then have your taxes go up to 3% locally?


The players are the workers. Let the city tax the teams, who have bargaining power and a say in where they do business (unlike players, who per the CBA can get traded unless they have a NTC). As between the city, the team, and the players, I think the players should be last in line to fund a stadium. This is just the city and team conspiring to pass the rent buck onto the players.

If I was the union, I'd negotiate for a make-whole on this.
Damn  
Joey in VA : 5/22/2015 1:20 pm : link
That's a whole lot of taxin
RE: RE: I like..  
Deej : 5/22/2015 1:21 pm : link
In comment 12297742 WideRight said:
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Weird that the 273.75 deduction for meal money as the 273.75 credit for meals during the pay period. As pointed out in the article, per diem is 100.70/day and he was on the road for 8 or 9 days.

It sounds to me like his contract had some provisions that pre-empt the meal money.


I'd guess that the discrepancy is that you dont get taxed on the full per diem. Per diem shouldnt be taxable at all since it is kind of a business expense, but obviously that could be a loophole whereby you go pass compensation off as per diem. So IRS has rules to prevent such nonsense.
RE: RE: Deej  
Hades07 : 5/23/2015 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12297743 Deej said:
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In comment 12297617 Hades07 said:


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...if the teams want to have cities build the stadiums, then why not tax the teams and players that use it more? Like a toll on the turnpike, you use it, you pay.

Would you prefer living in Scranton when the Eagles decided to move there and have a stadium built and then have your taxes go up to 3% locally?



The players are the workers. Let the city tax the teams, who have bargaining power and a say in where they do business (unlike players, who per the CBA can get traded unless they have a NTC). As between the city, the team, and the players, I think the players should be last in line to fund a stadium. This is just the city and team conspiring to pass the rent buck onto the players.

If I was the union, I'd negotiate for a make-whole on this.
I'm not crying for 3% on a guy that just got a net paycheck for 2 weeks over $400K. Let the players and teams and anyone involved pay for the stadium. Without the stadium they have no place to work. Look at it like the local service tax in many municipalities in PA, everyone who works pays $1 per week.
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