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How many "All Pro Types" is enough?

grizz299 : 5/23/2015 11:42 am
Bradshaw's Steelers had an all pro type at every position on Defense. The cap is the reality and that reality says you're never going to see that again. This team was the best in football with guys like Torbor, Mitchell, Ross, Wilson,Chase Blackburn and lots of ordinary. It's important to understand that..

I think that we're loaded (relatively speaking). And I think that becomes self-evident if you break that down into categories.

ALL PRO TYPES 9+)...Cromartie, Prince, Kennard, JPP, Hankins, Beckham, Eli, Jennings/Verdeen, Cruz, Harris.

I think Beckham is so good that you might almost count him as two players in terms of impact, but (and counting Verdeen/Jennings as one player) I find 8 players within this category.

TOP PROS(10).....Avery, Schwartz, Beason, Randall, McBride (or is it Thurmond we lost), Beatty, Ellis, Brown (F.G), Steve Weatherspoon

YOUNG EMERGING PLAYERS IE, guys you can reasonably expect to emerge as very good (8)....Richenberg, Collins, Flowers, Moore, Donnetell, Williams, Odi, Pugh (that's a very rich group of potential top talent, I wonder if there's as strong a group anywhere)
You could add another category for potential players but not as sure as above (Bromley,Ch.Brown, Cooper, Beher, Washington, Harris, Bradshaw) And still another for serviceable (Selvy, Preston, McCain, etc.).

If Dallas is the favorite...I can do that match up and find as many "All pro types" but still see grevious holes there (eg at defensive tackle and maybe rb, cb, safety) and I still think Eli is better than Romo.

And meantime there are so many question marks at Philly at the all important QB spot with Bradford, that until you have some resolution on the capabilities at that position it's impossible to make any judgments there.

I think we're the best in the division going in. I think that if we're healthy we're the team (with Eli/Beckham) that no one is going to want to play if we get into the playoffs.
I see a well balanced team with great playmakers on offense and a very good defense and superb special teams including the kickers/punters and return men.

Just give us a fair shake with injuries from here on in and we're gonna be very tough.








I don't really consider  
illmatic : 5/23/2015 11:54 am : link
our running backs or Harris as pro bowl types. Same goes for Kennard. Maybe one day but right now he's a little overhyped. I just hope he gives us a solid season. Even Cruz you can bump down due to the injury and not knowing how he'll respond. So you're looking at 5 or 6, tops. Assuming they're all healthy and play up to that level. As we very much know, they don't always do that.
How can anybody take this thread seriously  
robbieballs2003 : 5/23/2015 11:56 am : link
when you cannot even spell half of our players' names correctly?
So by ALL PRO TYPE  
UberAlias : 5/23/2015 12:46 pm : link
I take it you mean guys who aren't all pros, but you think should be/wish were?
Is "Avery" = Ayers?  
dep026 : 5/23/2015 1:17 pm : link
Cause I cant think of an Avery on our team.
RE: So by ALL PRO TYPE  
chris r : 5/23/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12298794 UberAlias said:
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I take it you mean guys who aren't all pros, but you think should be/wish were?


lol
Be realistic  
BillT : 5/23/2015 1:46 pm : link
All Pro: Eli, Beckham, Cruz (healthy), JPP, Hankins, That's it.

Guys who are better than avarge: Pugh, Beason (healthy), Kennard, DRC, Prince,

Guys we hope are better than average and have a good chance to be: Jennings, Schwartz, Richburg, Donnell, Randle, Vereen, Ayers, Moore, Bromley, Collins.

It's more potential because guys like Cruz, Schwartz, Beason, Jennings are coming off injury. Also, recent drafts have add some young players who have show talent but need to take the next step (Moore, Randle, Donnell, Bromley.)

Not a big stretch to see a pretty good team here but things have to work out well across the board.
With Beatty Down  
Aloha Alan : 5/23/2015 2:01 pm : link
you will have to include Flowers in the mix "somewhere." He has to be more than just serviceable this season.
This team has at most 4 All Pro types,  
BlueLou : 5/23/2015 3:24 pm : link
and none of them have made All Pro more than once right? For Eli, once only in a 10 year career. For Cruz, he may not ever get back to that level... This thread sux.


Well it's good for a laugh, I guess.
Steve  
RetroJint : 5/24/2015 4:35 am : link
Not sure about your All Pro count. However, the overall talent level of the roster has risen to the point where the Giants should be competitive again.
It's not about numbers.....  
Doomster : 5/24/2015 8:11 am : link
It's about defensive/offensive units playing together as a team, and the coaches directing them.....when you look at what the Cardinals accomplished last season, with injury after injury, hats off to their coaches that used their players and put them in a position to win....but you can only go so far that way, and then your elite players have to put you over the top....

Been saying for years, it's a crime the way Reese has set this team up for Eli....we have a franchise qb, and we can't protect him, and we limit his options, because we can't run the ball, WHEN WE NEED TO!

Looking back at that 2011 season, how the heck did he do it, with the line he had in front of him? That was just a magical year for Eli....Aaron Rodgers got the award that year, but Eli should have, in terms of putting a team on his back, and carrying them to a championship...
All Pro doesnt mean crap IMO  
blueblood : 5/24/2015 9:55 am : link
because All Pro doesnt mean anything anymore..
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