NFT: Game 5: Tampa Bay Lightning vs New York Rangers gamethread

(And McDonagh)

I know we're frustrated, but just stop. This series isn't over.

He has a trip to Aruba on the line.

But we're gonna win this series. This team is just never going to go the easy route. Something we just needed to accept.

Good job getting us Game 4, beard.

I gotta clean up the mess again. I got us.

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and it was easy money.

In comment 12299660 MetsAreBack said:

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and it was easy money.

This act is getting tired. Really.

Easy money, on a team that took 7 games against probably the worst team in the east, and still hasn't even made the stanley cup finals.

Funny. You've shoveled dirt on the Rangers chances every chance you could over the last couple years, wouldn't expect any different now.

It's not over. Not even close.

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Just get it back home.

In comment 12299666 BrettNYG10 said:

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Can't get much closer. I suppose it could be 0-3. In fact, thinking of it that way, 2-3 sounds absolutely fantastic!

Yandle and Boyle have probably been the best defenseman this series, which isn't a good sign. Both got more time than McDonagh tonight.

Klein was awful.

If the Rangers lose this series, McDonagh's play in game three will be running through my head all off-season. I'd give both Mook's balls for last year's McDonagh.

In comment 12299635 Greg from LI said:

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Eventually someone's going to make you pay in an elimination game. That's just reality. Doesn't mean they can't pull this out - if they win game 6 I feel very confident they take the series - but you can't leave yourself on the brink of losing over and over indefinitely.

Exactly. See 2012 NY Rangers playoffs as evidence

In comment 12299661 MookGiants said:

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Funny. You've shoveled dirt on the Rangers chances every chance you could over the last couple years, wouldn't expect any different now.

Hyperbole. And your act when your team loses is to attack other posters on here for whatever reason though. And of course curse a lot too.

You lost to the Sens 2-0 in game 5 at home a few years ago.

If anyone is likely to come back, its the Rangers!

And rallied to win 6 on the road and 7 at home. I just think when you haven't been the better team, it is a hard ask. I think, as I am sure everyone who has followed the Rangers know, they have the mental makeup to come back. I really think they have been outclassed in this series and that matters when trying to win 2 in a row.

Tampa wasn't the better team against Detroit heading into game 6, either. But they found a way. Hell they were dominated in game 7 and won 2-0.

We were outclassed against the Penguins last year and had to win 2 games on the road to come back down 3-1.

It's not going to be easy by any stretch, but this team can do it.

I'm not happy by the limited adjustments AV is making. That was one of the criticisms of his coming out of Vancouver. He doesn't make enough adjustments when the game calls for it. That doesn't mean we have to go back to the days of Torts and shuffle the lines (what felt like) almost every game to get the team going. We do need to have some fluidity and continuity, but there have been games not just in the playoffs, but throughout the season where the team looked lost and had nothing going and AV continued to roll out the same lines and it costs us games. If it's broken, fix it. If it's not broken, don't fix it.


As Mook and I have been saying for a while, Marty is done and I don't why people were expecting him to turn it around after he scored. The guy scored on an empty net and was set up by a beautiful pass by Yandle and Brassard. That's why he scored. Tanner Glass would've scored on the same play.
I don't blame Marty. I just think that he's done. He looks ready to retire and probably should. I would be very pissed if we brought him back, even at the vet. min. It sucks that he had to play his worst hockey at a time where we needed him the most, but he's done.

Break up the fucking defensive pairings. Put Girardi with Yandle, McDonagh with Klein and Staal with Boyle. This team needs balance. The McDonagh/Girardi pair has been awful for most of the season and the playoffs and while they may be the best defensemen on the roster, it doesn't mean they should be paired together. Pairings are all about chemistry. That's why you put a superstar like Hedman with a big goof like Andrej Sustr and it seems to work.

We need Zuccarello back badly. BADLY. Any chance at all that he plays tomorrow night?

I feel worse about this team's chances coming down from 3-2 against Tampa than I did against Washington down 4-3, which I acknowledge is irrational.

My dad's been on Klein's case all playoff. Thinks he's been quietly awful - he certainly was last night. Agreed with Anak on the D pairings.

TB didn't play particularly well last night, either. Just get it to seven.

I'm gonna lose it

But we came off a series of games where the PP2 unit was great, particularly Yandle - why the fuck were they not the first unit?

In comment 12299886 BrettNYG10 said:

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But we came off a series of games where the PP2 unit was great, particularly Yandle - why the fuck were they not the first unit?

Good question. I mean Boyle has played well on the PP as of late, but St. Louis has sucked balls. I would replace St. Louis with Yandle and put Yandle and Boyle at the points.

see TB as just the better club. I just dont and they arent. Lol at Hedman being a young Chara. Thats just funny.

Hedman was the 2nd overall pick in the draft, just 24 years old and already the best defensman on the ice in this ECF. funny but there was an article just this morning that compared him to chara and kronwall. but hey your eye test knows better than the experts

look I'll gladly eat crow if we come back. trust me - gladly. give me extra helpings please

but.... a sobering stat: this core group is now 38-36 in the postseason over the past 4 years. what was supposed to be a golden age... just way too many disappointing clusterfucks like last night with lack of flow offensively, guys missing the net by 5-10 feet, etc. WTF

Skated since Thursday? Weird.

Mean this their best chance and we're doing it without Zucc.
I just don't them having the stamina to do better next year; please find a way.

In comment 12300043 hudson said:

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Mean this their best chance and we're doing it without Zucc. I just don't them having the stamina to do better next year; please find a way.

Is this written in code?

Adam Herman ‏@AdamHerman_BSB 4m4 minutes ago
Of all playoff dmen who have played at least 150 minutes, Dan Boyle has allowed the few shot attempts against per 60 minutes.

this isn't going 7. Rangers are a good road team and getting it back to MSG for a game 7 is as sure a W as there is in sports right now.

You already did enough cursing us with McDonagh.

this series. 5v5 play the Rangers look to be dominant even if they're not scoring, the TB pp has killed them, almost 50% in the 3 TB wins.

he's American, I want him to do well and no clue WTF is wrong with him.

he's not playing total bad games like some guys, but he's had some serious WTF moments.

I will say his offensive game has surprised me and he's come up big this series at times. I always thought he's be a top 4 stay at home D-man, but little two-way to his game.

he's better than I thought, though not this series.

the Canadiens and Islanders fans showing so much confidence in the Rangers. Trying to jinx us

no jinx intended, just my opinion, but I get the sentiment and I'll keep my comments to my self.

good luck

He makes 3-4 bonehead plays a game, and his defense was as bad as possible in game three. He looked like a bond fide #1 defenseman last post-season. He never had the top flight offensive talent to be a Norris contender, but he was elite defensively. Not so this year.

He actually looked alright last night other than an early turnover.

Pinch. But he needs be elite defensively.

In comment 12300126 BrettNYG10 said:

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Pinch. But he needs be elite defensively.

agree Brett, last comment from me. McDonagh's transition game is incredible, he has great vision and that surprised me a little, which makes the defensive mental lapses disappointing.

Keep commenting.

He is such a douche.

Any true isles or Habs fan does NOT want to see the rangers win. Everyone hates the Rangers. Fuck the hell off with this good karma and good feelings bullshit. You are praying that the Rangers lose tomorrow night. I know it and you know it so kindly fuck off. See right through that bullshit.

In comment 12300124 pjcas18 said:

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no jinx intended, just my opinion, but I get the sentiment and I'll keep my comments to my self. good luck

Let's hope you're not too late to "catch" the drift.

to win. So you can fuck the hell off with this reading comprehension shit.

I don't give a shit if they do, but with my team eliminated I don't care who wins, zero shits given.

I merely posted my opinion.

if that bothers you, I make no apologies.

Stop being stupid.

pj is just giving his opinion. He's not being a douche or trying to "jinx" the Rangers (seriously, stop with this shit).

There's really no reason to keep getting on the guys case. Give it up. If you don't care what he has to say, ignore it. I have no issue with the perception of a fan of another team. Stop being so goddamn sensitive.

It's all nonsense. Isles fans and guys like PJ are just following the threads and posting their thoughts. There are no jinxes. It's all good. Win tomorrow night and we're on business.

There are no jinxes. Just like the game not being affected when a certain BBIer starts the game thread.

RIGHT, B? :)

I was grouping all you fucks together.

And if you live in the NYC area, you absolutely hate the Rangers and want them losing tonight. If you live in the Montreal area you probably don't care...but again I wasn't singling out one specific person.

I don't trust Habs fans at all...I assume the worst. Go eat a fucking croisannt...

and sometimes shit gets lost in translation. I was mostly kidding...you guys don't stir up an shit..

I just convinced myself that me cursing out a Habs or Isles fan on the web will help the Rangers win tonight. Can't blame me...

(or Bruins or Caps - fuck you, Tony - or Flyers or hudson fan either)

Why apologize and even more importantly, why do you feel like you need an excuse to curse those cocksuckers out today?? I certainly dont need one.

Fuck them. See you on the links tomorrow boys.

out, that's who you are then have at it.

My point was I was not saying I wanted the Rangers to win.

I said I thought they would.

It wasn't about jinxing anyone or anything superstitious or reverse psychology. My father and brother (who posts on here sometimes) are both diehard Rangers and Yankees fans, yet I still don't give a shit if the Rangers win.

I said "there's no way this doesn't go 7 and when it does game 7 is about as good a bet in sports right now the way Hank and the Rangers play game 7's." or something like that.

if the Rangers lose, I'm wrong and I don't care.

that's what I think will happen if that offends anyone as I said I make no apologies and Brett is right I'll keep posting, I love hockey and nothing like a game 7.

In comment 12301931 pjcas18 said:

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I said "there's no way this doesn't go 7 and when it does game 7 is about as good a bet in sports right now the way Hank and the Rangers play game 7's." or something like that.

? You said Rangers in 5 - said the series was over if the Rangers won game 2.

Anyway, thanks for your support. I know a couple of cool Habs fans -- too bad they're overshadowed by all the others.

I just checked my schedule - sorry Fish and FEKker, turns out my tee time is Saturday not today. Have fun out there!