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NFT: Game 5: Tampa Bay Lightning vs New York Rangers gamethread

redbeard : 5/24/2015 9:06 am
Here we go, boys. Back to the garden for a best of three. The 5-1 beat down was beautiful to watch but it's time to turn the page and take another fucking step towards finishing the job we didn't last year.

No let downs today...put more doubt in tampa's head and grab the series by the throat

Lets fucking go, boys. Fear the fucking Beard,

LETS GO RANGERS
LGR  
yankeeslover : 5/24/2015 9:10 am : link
Let's put pressure back on the bolts.
Yeah Baby!  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/24/2015 9:15 am : link
#LGR
Let's Go Rangers!!!  
MadPlaid : 5/24/2015 9:26 am : link
We need more D!! The guys have to help Hank. He can't do it alone.
Today's game IS the series.  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:42 am : link
I don't know the statistics, but in a 2-2-1-1-1 series format, tied at 2-2, game 5 is almost certainly the most critical game, statistically.

LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO IT!
I'm praying for 2 straight wins  
RodneyHamp : 5/24/2015 10:04 am : link
I am flying to New Orleans on Friday night at 7!

LGFR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LFGR!!!  
Torrag : 5/24/2015 10:06 am : link
Continue to improve our defensive reads and coverage as we familiarize ourselves with what they do as a team. This series has a steep learning curve for the Rangers. Not having seen them for five months caused a lot of problems for us. We made strides in game 4 in limiting their quality chances. We have a very smart club with a great work ethic and admirable resiliency in the face of adversity. We elevated our physical presence, denied them time and space and clogged up their skating lanes. In the end our battle level and experience will carry the day.
Let's do this!  
jpkmets : 5/24/2015 10:36 am : link
LGR!!!
RE: Today's game IS the series.  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:47 am : link
In comment 12299152 baadbill said:
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I don't know the statistics, but in a 2-2-1-1-1 series format, tied at 2-2, game 5 is almost certainly the most critical game, statistically.

LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO IT!


Looked it up. Winner of game 5 in a NHL series tied 2-2 went on to win the series .781 percent of the time in NHL history (275 teams went on to win the series versus 77 teams that lost). That's damn close to 80% of the time.

Tonight's game is HUGE! C'mon baby,
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Game 4 was the absolute must win but Game 5 is close.  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2015 11:14 am : link
Back at the Garden, we have to put them on the ropes here.

We've put 10 past Bishop in the last 2 games now. This is a guy who has not been here before and might start to doubt himself a bit if we can get on him early again.

Hopefully the Rangers can turn on the jets here at the right time and find a way to make Game 6 an elimination game for TB.
Will be in the building tonight , fired up for this one!!  
mfsd : 5/24/2015 11:23 am : link
Need to forget game 5 as quickly as we forgot game 4, TB will be coming in hot, a couple early goals would set the tone
You guys got next 2 games  
KWhite2250 : 5/24/2015 11:30 am : link
Played a tighter defensive game and still put 5 past bishop. Tampa is done
Good news, just won my NHL 15 game.  
RodneyHamp : 5/24/2015 11:40 am : link
So far in the playoffs when I've won, they've won. When I've lost, they've lost. Keep the trend going!
RE: You guys got next 2 games  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 11:52 am : link
In comment 12299207 KWhite2250 said:
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Played a tighter defensive game and still put 5 past bishop. Tampa is done


I get the whole trying to jinx part, but I don't know how anyone can say this with a straight face. Clearly not someone paying attention to this Rangers group over the past decade - when has anything ever been easy for these guys?

Series is still a pick 'em. Two very talented, well coached teams -- adjustments and counter-adjustments, just like any other hard fought series. Hopefully we get a little puck luck and end up on top tonight, but you know they'll respond with their best effort. That's what good teams like them have done time and again this postseason after tough losses (game 2 Detroit, game 6 Detroit, game 5 Montreal and game 6 Montreal)

Take it to them early and get in Bishop's head. Can't afford to let that guy regain his confidence - though look at the tape of the Rangers 4th goal the other night... he didn't even move from his post well after Brassard had fed MSL. Maybe he was totally screened ? But it was an odd complete lack of awareness -- bury this fuck tonight.
Torts just said Tampa was the much better team Friday  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 11:59 am : link
but Bishop killed them.

Some of that may be true but people have an odd definition of "much better"

I don't really give a shit what Cooper or Torts think - we're way too thirsty for a Cup at this point to care even a little about style points -- bottom line game 4 was probably a mirror image of game 2 from a sense of team carrying play lost.... but this series tied 2-2 right now is probably exactly where this team should be.

Not too worried about who carried play Friday - they dominated about 11 minutes Friday, in part due to some NYR penalties... but the other 49 minutes I thought we played an excellent Road game

Tonight is huge - the way they carried play in both their home games, they seem to get the matchups they want down there... not feeling great about winning there again. Have to have this one tonight. As baadbill said, 80% of the time the winner tonight takes the Series.
Absolutely not trying to jinx  
KWhite2250 : 5/24/2015 12:13 pm : link
And I can say it with a straight face because the coach saw they needed to play a tighter d game and they did it and won 5-1! Not 2-1 not 1-0. I dont think Bishop is all that good. And as someone who never second guesses your goalies performance, he isnt giving up more than 2 in a game from now on as long as the Rangers stay out of the up and down wide open games.
Well personally i came out of game 1 feeling better  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 12:26 pm : link
than I did out of Friday. If our stars - Nash, I guess MSL, McD... can continue to play like that, we've got a chance, but they did outchance us the other night, and this is still playoff hockey between two excellent teams in a best of 3.

They've won 3 times in the Garden this year so this isn't the Caps coming in here with a long history of losing - need to bring our "A" game tonight.

Any fan comfortable in a particular outcome right now is full of it. Momentum is as good as your last shift.
Tampa had tons of scoring chances, but either fucked up or Henrik  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 12:30 pm : link
stopped them dead in their tracks. It is what it is. Let's hope for no defensive breakdowns.
This may be  
Bones : 5/24/2015 1:00 pm : link
A dumb time to ask this, but who should we be rooting for in the other series? I thought we would have a better chance against Chicago, but their defense men handle the puck well in their own zone, which would negate our forechecking. I find myself rooting for Chicago anyway, but winning the cup ain't gonna be a walk in the park.
Chicago is a better matchup for the Rangers.  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2015 1:04 pm : link
Quenneville is only rolling 4 d-men because he doesn't trust Timmonen and Cumiskey (Timmonen is especially awful, the guy is just old and done)

They're also a smaller team. Toews and Kane are elite forwards and will cause problems for anyone but it's not like there's any real dropoff between those two and Getzlaf/Perry.

Anaheim is a bigger, more physical team with a deeper, more balanced defense corps. I think they would give the Rangers a really hard time.

I just don't think Chicago can make it through the SCF on the winning side with their blue line as thin as it is. Keith, Hjalmarsson and Seabrook are all excellent players but they're just logging so many minutes and they're in a really physical series with ANA right now and I just think it's going to start to show on the ice. Hopefully not until they win the series, though.

Really hoping the Hawks pull past.

Obviously it means nothing if the Rangers can't beat Tampa two more times but we're fans, not players.. doesn't really matter if we look ahead.
I am nervous about playing the likes of Toews, Kane, Hossa and Saad  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 1:08 pm : link
But I would love it if the Rangers skullfucked Brad Richards and showed Chicago they fucked up by not locking Kevin Hayes up.
Tampa was much better the first 50 minutes.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 1:09 pm : link
Rangers probably slightly outplayed them the first 10-15 minutes, but the second was an embarrassing effort by the team. Lundqvist and Bishop were the difference makers.
had no issues with how we played 1st and 3rd periods  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 1:32 pm : link
Friday. good road periods and well played considering scoreboard and crowd / momentum
and all that

first 12 minutes of period 2 was certainly rough - can't have that happen again but it might - give the opponent credit, they are excellent.

Hank is going to have to steal us one of these final 3 games to advance
Some rumors about a Bishop injury  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2015 1:41 pm : link
Would make sense considering the effort we saw on the MSL goal. Not looking for style points at this juncture anyway. I'll take it however we can get it.

Last game was just about the best case scenario. Not only winning but doing it with a bunch of slumping players contributing. If Nash gets hot, we're in fantastic shape.
RE: Chicago is a better matchup for the Rangers.  
chopperhatch : 5/24/2015 1:49 pm : link
In comment 12299255 arcarsenal said:
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Quenneville is only rolling 4 d-men because he doesn't trust Timmonen and Cumiskey (Timmonen is especially awful, the guy is just old and done)

They're also a smaller team. Toews and Kane are elite forwards and will cause problems for anyone but it's not like there's any real dropoff between those two and Getzlaf/Perry.

Anaheim is a bigger, more physical team with a deeper, more balanced defense corps. I think they would give the Rangers a really hard time.

I just don't think Chicago can make it through the SCF on the winning side with their blue line as thin as it is. Keith, Hjalmarsson and Seabrook are all excellent players but they're just logging so many minutes and they're in a really physical series with ANA right now and I just think it's going to start to show on the ice. Hopefully not until they win the series, though.

Really hoping the Hawks pull past.

Obviously it means nothing if the Rangers can't beat Tampa two more times but we're fans, not players.. doesn't really matter if we look ahead.


I tend to agree. Anaheim scared me. We get stuck in our own end a lot against bigger teams. Although Chicago has Stanley Cup experience out the ass.
my opinion of Anaheim is probably jaded  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 1:54 pm : link
from seeing the Metro division playoff teams all handle them fairly easily

they are a worthy Final opponent and it's never easy this time of year regardless - but it doesn't get easier than the road they've had to get here

they can't hold last year's Kings jock. we get by Tampa and we're in great shape.

Lightning are our biggest test of this run - been saying that since march. caps series never should have been that close - over and done with hopefully that experience made us a better team but it never should have gotten to that.
RE: my opinion of Anaheim is probably jaded  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 2:01 pm : link
In comment 12299272 MetsAreBack said:
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from seeing the Metro division playoff teams all handle them fairly easily

they are a worthy Final opponent and it's never easy this time of year regardless - but it doesn't get easier than the road they've had to get here

they can't hold last year's Kings jock. we get by Tampa and we're in great shape.

Lightning are our biggest test of this run - been saying that since march. caps series never should have been that close - over and done with hopefully that experience made us a better team but it never should have gotten to that.


Also because the Rangers waxed Anaheim 4-1 and 7-2 in the regular season
I'm going.  
GiantFilthy : 5/24/2015 2:32 pm : link
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I think the score of game 4 was misleading  
Jay in Toronto : 5/24/2015 3:19 pm : link
There were some good trends - May improved PP, Nash going to the net as opposed to dead on shots from the side, MS finally finishing a set up.

If that continues that will help, but I still think the series is in the D's hands - if they have reversed their inconsistent play then I like our chances.
CHP checking in from Vienna  
ColHowPepper : 5/24/2015 4:21 pm : link
Thanks for keeping me up to date, sort of, on game threads....

!!LGR!!

"Lightning are our biggest test of this run - been saying that since march. caps series never should have been that close - over and done with hopefully that experience made us a better team but it never should have gotten to that."

Seems to me in the SC Playoffs so far, of course it's playoff hockey, but the Rangers have not been playing their game as well as they did during the season and/or other teams have upped their games, so Penguins, Caps, now Lightning...may it never should have gotten to that, but that's the way we've been playing. So the differentials we had vs. Anaheim during the season means squat, if we get that far. (If we do, it's Kings' physical game redux.)

Hard to get a read on Game 4, with some here saying Lightning outplayed Blueshirts for 50 minutes; that doesn't sound so pretty.

Here's hoping they put together a solid 60, and another, and then a bunch more.

Beard the faith. LGR
I mean ... maybe...  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 5:02 pm : link

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Lightning head coach Jon Cooper believes that forward Ryan Callahan will score in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Final on Sunday.

''Tonight's probably the night he's going to score,'' said Cooper. It's no secret that Callahan hasn't been productive this postseason. The 30-year-old has no points in his last nine games and he has just three assists in 16 postseason games in 2015.
I believe in Lundqvist. He's back in the groove.  
Phil in Joisey : 5/24/2015 6:10 pm : link
I also believe in redbeard. Bring it home once more.
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
bring it home  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 6:11 pm : link
redbeard
LGR!  
djm : 5/24/2015 6:23 pm : link
I found a great parking spot in the city today -- guess what fucking street... 61st...

Nash for the trick tonight.
Thanks  
Bones : 5/24/2015 6:55 pm : link
Arcarsenal and Mets. I wa rooting for the Black Hawks the other night, mainly hoping the series goes 7 games, but I also thought we would, match up better with Chicago. Of course we have our hands full with Tampa Bay so I'm not being presumptuous.
I posted this Friday and it worked...so let's try again!  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/24/2015 7:14 pm : link
LFGR!
Rangers Goal Song - ( New Window )
Let's Go Rangers!  
trueblueinpw : 5/24/2015 7:29 pm : link
Light up Bishop. This would a nice night for the King to not let any in.

LGR!
21 years ago to the day  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/24/2015 7:42 pm : link
The Captain made the infamous guarantee that our Rangers would go into Jersey down 3-2 in the ECF and win! I know it's not game 6, but let's hope some of that same magic rubs off on the boys tonight. LGR!!
beard game  
Davisian : 5/24/2015 7:53 pm : link
Fuck yeah
Fuck yea, baby. This continues to be a magical year...  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 8:02 pm : link
LGR
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJM, I bet based on your parking spot  
hitchchops2 : 5/24/2015 8:12 pm : link
LGR and lets go Nasher, 2 or more goals
Would it kill these networks to just start  
Ben in Tampa : 5/24/2015 8:12 pm : link
the fucking games at 8?

Amirante!  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 8:13 pm : link
The crowd went into a frenzy when they saw him
RE: Amirante!  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 8:15 pm : link
In comment 12299400 dpinzow said:
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The crowd went into a frenzy when they saw him


Great to see MSG invited him back!
McDonagh  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 8:17 pm : link
with another terrible turnover
Tampa tried to cheat with that change  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 8:22 pm : link
and got caught...too many men
Need to get  
batman11 : 5/24/2015 8:22 pm : link
the puck deep and cycle. Make TB play defense.
damn  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 8:24 pm : link
Kreider had a great chance but missed the net
Fantastic looking PP here  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 8:25 pm : link
... 6 for last 13 is a blistering pace
stupid penalty  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 8:26 pm : link
on Staal. Ugh
Staal takes a penalty (interference)  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 8:27 pm : link
and now we have to kill off their tough PP
Nice job on the kill,  
Mad Mike : 5/24/2015 8:31 pm : link
but Tampa helped us a bit with some really sloppy passing.
Our passing is good to be our downfall  
Essex : 5/24/2015 8:32 pm : link
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Going  
Essex : 5/24/2015 8:32 pm : link
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Brassard  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 8:32 pm : link
waited a second too long to pass that, have to give it up immediately and Miller is in all alone
Great cycle  
batman11 : 5/24/2015 8:38 pm : link
and boardwork!!
Johnson's line got caught out  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 8:40 pm : link
overcommitting to the rush and took a penalty (in fact it was Johnson backchecking to try and stop the Rangers' rush)
Great period so far ... now it's time to go up 1-0  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 8:41 pm : link
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Bad PP there  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 8:45 pm : link
Tampa just got away with a stick on Hagelin and ANOTHER too many men
St Louis  
Jay in Toronto : 5/24/2015 8:50 pm : link
Continues to be a second slow on everything. It's sad.
definitely owed one from the refs  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 8:50 pm : link
that Johnson high stick on Hagelin was blatant.
hope JT is OK  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 8:50 pm : link
kind of a feel out period for both teams. Expect more pace in the 2nd.
Unless Martin St. Louis has a wide open net in front of him, he's a  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 8:50 pm : link
liability on the ice
I thought St. Louis looked better.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 8:52 pm : link
The ice sucks.

Like McDonagh.
Rangers gave TB almost zero opportunites that period...  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 8:53 pm : link
need to avoid the schizophrenic good 1st, horrendous 2nd play we've seen recently ... need steady consistent play here in the 2nd
Well I'll trust the coaching staff  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:01 pm : link
but Jones'y' just pointed out 3 or 4 times where we had 2, sometimes, three guys forechecking on nothing in particular inside their face off circle which is usually going to lead to high quality break chances for them.

Hard to sit here and say "McDonaugh sucks" or that the D isn't doing its jobs when our forwards I'm guessing could be a little more selective in their pinching (?)
I agree  
Bones : 5/24/2015 9:03 pm : link
St. Louis looks lost. I was hoping he would turn it around after some good moments in game four.
No it's not hard to point out how bad McDonagh was in his defensive  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 9:05 pm : link
Zone during that period.

Careless giveaways, bad reads. Nothing to do with the forwards.

They seem to be picking on the vulnerable D with the forecheck - only sending in one or two when the top pairing is out there.
Dan Boyle  
Bones : 5/24/2015 9:06 pm : link
Looked rough during the last PP.
GIMME SOME GLOVE  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:09 pm : link
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What a horrible fucking giveaway.  
Jackson Ellis : 5/24/2015 9:09 pm : link
Lucky to survive that
Terrible giveaway, Stamkos gets a golden chance  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:09 pm : link
but HENRIK robs him with the glove
We need Hank stepping up like that,  
Mad Mike : 5/24/2015 9:09 pm : link
but we can't put him that situation. Need to tighten up.
The number of giveaways 10 feet in front of Rangers goal is just  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:09 pm : link
stunning
that has to be a fucking hook  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:10 pm : link
on Tampa, jesus christ
PUSSSSSY. PUSSSSSSY. PUSSSSY!  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:10 pm : link
FUCK YOU, CALLAHAN. Little bitch
Callahan whines and dives? shocker.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 9:10 pm : link
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Callahan got away with a hook  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:11 pm : link
Tampa getting a lot of favorable no calls
Where's  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:11 pm : link
the sniper in the stands? Callahan definitely got hit by a bullet
Our shots are getting blocked constantly  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:14 pm : link
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Stahl had a wide open shot when he circled the net  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:15 pm : link
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Another PP coming up  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:17 pm : link
Adios, Mr. Garrison
Garrison high sticks Nash  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:17 pm : link
Rangers get a PP
RE: Stahl had a wide open shot when he circled the net  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12299464 baadbill said:
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The net would have to be 100 feet wide for Staal to hit it
RE: Stahl had a wide open shot when he circled the net  
Giants2012 : 5/24/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12299464 baadbill said:
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He should have thrown it at the net. He skated a long way only to pass it back to the point.
yeah that was a bad decision by Staal  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:19 pm : link

Yandle took years off my life. That's his game - we need to see more of that offense we paid up so much for because his defense scares the fuck out of me
Another PP coming up  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
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this looking like a 2-1 type game  
CGiants07 : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
to me
Another PP coming  
Deej : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
fucking pot one (in Tampa's net)
gotta  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
get one now
Back to back pp's,  
Mad Mike : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
have to take advantage here. Can't blow these chances.
Horrendous PP. Tampa got more shots than we did!  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
But right after the kill, Sustr takes Hagelin's legs out with his stick and that's another penalty
Have to score boys  
Giants2012 : 5/24/2015 9:22 pm : link
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everyone thinks  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
because MSL hit a wide open net the other night that he'll get going, but reality is he was awful the other night too. He got a few chances when Tampa quit on the game
Great opportunity for Nash there  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
Beautiful pass by Yandle
Oh, that was a goal!  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
damn!
Another shitty PP.  
Essex : 5/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
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RE: everyone thinks  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:24 pm : link
In comment 12299483 MookGiants said:
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because MSL hit a wide open net the other night that he'll get going, but reality is he was awful the other night too. He got a few chances when Tampa quit on the game


Amen
No shots  
benwa27 : 5/24/2015 9:26 pm : link
So reluctant to shoot tonight. Just fire them on net.
Fucking A  
Deej : 5/24/2015 9:26 pm : link
0-1. The defense parts
fuck  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
Henrik has to bail us out on those shots
Fuck that  
Anakim : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
Are you fucking serious? Fucking Stralman
awesome  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
look awful tonight
Aw shit  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
Filppula scores the first goal
Dominate the whole game and they score on us. Fuck!  
yatqb : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
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blaming Hank for that?  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
seriously?
Who was that that  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:27 pm : link
gambled?

Henrik got caught deep in his crease again.
It was a great shot  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:28 pm : link
but we're probably going to need him to bail us out on 1 or 2 of those a night.
awful D and goaltending  
hitchchops2 : 5/24/2015 9:28 pm : link
what a novelty this series
he did on Stamkos earlier  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:29 pm : link
how about not sucking cock on all 4 power plays tonight? How about Nash not missing the net by 5 feet on a 12 foot uncontested shot?
did anyone see  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:29 pm : link
who gambled to create the odd man rush? I didn't catch a number
RE: Dominate the whole game and they score on us. Fuck!  
Essex : 5/24/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12299496 yatqb said:
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What game are you watching? We probably have controlled possession, but the three best shots on goal have come from them.
RE: blaming Hank for that?  
CGiants07 : 5/24/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12299497 MetsAreBack said:
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seriously?

it was a save that he could of made saw it no screen or deflection
Of course Nash misses the net on his chance  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
while they bury theirs. Ugh!
Almost 2 periods played ... and SOG are 13-10  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
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RE: did anyone see  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
In comment 12299502 MookGiants said:
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who gambled to create the odd man rush? I didn't catch a number


Tanner Glass.
RE: Almost 2 periods played ... and SOG are 13-10  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
In comment 12299506 baadbill said:
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Oops ... 13-12
the bigger problem  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:30 pm : link
on the shot is he wasn't aggressive. Like he was on Stamkos shot. Like he was in game 4.

He has been beaten like a drum every time he has sat in his crease this series from that spot. They don't miss when they have upper corner to shoot at
Drop low again King  
Carl in CT : 5/24/2015 9:31 pm : link
Asshole!
just when i was beginning to not  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:33 pm : link
despise Tanner Glass he gambles and costs us a goal
Staal  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:34 pm : link
with a dumb penalty. Fuck fuck fuck
Kucherov makes the most of that, possibly took a dive  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:35 pm : link
Staal to the box
Staal continuing his  
benwa27 : 5/24/2015 9:35 pm : link
wonderful play this series.
it was a great shot  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:35 pm : link
we've gone into an uncreative, shell offensively yet again after two good games. Nash is missing the net by several feet and MSL hasn't built on anything from Friday. Real disconcerting.

Big Kill coming up now... this one may get away from us in a hurry.
I dont know  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:36 pm : link
why anyone thought MSL would build off of hitting an empty net. He was absolutely terrible in the game. Glass would have hit that open net
They want to call Staal for that, fine  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2015 9:36 pm : link
But that should be matching minors. Really obvious dive.
SOG went from 13-8 to 13-14 in basically 2 minutes  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:37 pm : link
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It was a shot if  
Carl in CT : 5/24/2015 9:37 pm : link
You didn't drop and you came out of your crease it has no chance going in! Bad play by the goalie!
boooo  
Deej : 5/24/2015 9:38 pm : link
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thanks Staal  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:38 pm : link
turning into a nightmare game
We reverted back to Game 2  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 9:38 pm : link
after a good 25 minutes
I've been saying MSL should be in a press box for 5 games now  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:38 pm : link
he's done. It's not even close. But Zuccs frustratingly can't get back.

Is what it is. We're on the brink now.
I suppose that was Hank's fault too.  
yatqb : 5/24/2015 9:38 pm : link
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our awful power play  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:39 pm : link
going to cost us this game.
Nope  
Carl in CT : 5/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
No chance on that one! Blame Staal!
Just an awful game.  
nygmen84 : 5/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
Its looks like game 2 all over again. No urgency, PP, and shitty defense.
fuck you  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
tanner glass
blame St Louis for everybad thing that happens  
Ron Johnson : 5/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
idiotic
Well, that was rough.  
Mad Mike : 5/24/2015 9:41 pm : link
Getting up against it now.
RE: blame St Louis for everybad thing that happens  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:42 pm : link
In comment 12299536 Ron Johnson said:
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idiotic


When our power play looks like shit he's always out there.

He's the worst player on the ice, by far, between the two teams. He was the other night too, but woopty fuckin doo he hit a wide open net with no one anyone near him
I am just frustrated  
Essex : 5/24/2015 9:44 pm : link
I could have seen us losing a 100 different ways tonight, I couldn't see us really not getting a quality shot in two periods
RJ  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:44 pm : link
I think if we had a 28-31 year old wing making that $4-5 million/year who could contribute on the PP and score 25-30 goals/year....

Yeah, it would make a difference. The guy single handedly cost us game 2 and has 1 goal 17 playoff games. Fuck him.
I think the Rangers were playing a great game ... they had held  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:46 pm : link
TB to 8 SOG and virtually no real scoring opportunities since the giveaway early in the 1st period ... they were totally controlling the flow of the game ...

Then Stamkos buries one out of nowhere. And then Rangers give up a PP goal (while they went 0-4 on their own).

Tough sledding moving forward. But a two goal lead is a very difficult lead to protect in hockey. All it takes is one goal and suddenly it's a game again and momentum shifts radically. Gotta keep faith.

LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesnt help that Stamkos is playing his best hockey of the season  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:47 pm : link

People talk about Johnson... we haven't had an answer for Stamkos the entire series.
RE: I think the Rangers were playing a great game ... they had held  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:48 pm : link
In comment 12299543 baadbill said:
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TB to 8 SOG and virtually no real scoring opportunities since the giveaway early in the 1st period ... they were totally controlling the flow of the game ...

Then Stamkos buries one out of nowhere. And then Rangers give up a PP goal (while they went 0-4 on their own).

Tough sledding moving forward. But a two goal lead is a very difficult lead to protect in hockey. All it takes is one goal and suddenly it's a game again and momentum shifts radically. Gotta keep faith.

LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Besides Kreider's shot that missed the net, we have had zero quality chances. Yeah they didn't have a lot of shots but their quality of shots even before the goal was better than ours.

I still would love to know what tanner glass was doing.
they have to make that shitbird  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:50 pm : link
Bishop work, so far he has not had to do a damn thing. We've missed the net on our chances. He sucks. Make him work
RE: RE: I think the Rangers were playing a great game ... they had held  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12299548 MookGiants said:
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In comment 12299543 baadbill said:


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TB to 8 SOG and virtually no real scoring opportunities since the giveaway early in the 1st period ... they were totally controlling the flow of the game ...

Then Stamkos buries one out of nowhere. And then Rangers give up a PP goal (while they went 0-4 on their own).

Tough sledding moving forward. But a two goal lead is a very difficult lead to protect in hockey. All it takes is one goal and suddenly it's a game again and momentum shifts radically. Gotta keep faith.

LGR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Besides Kreider's shot that missed the net, we have had zero quality chances. Yeah they didn't have a lot of shots but their quality of shots even before the goal was better than ours.

I still would love to know what tanner glass was doing.


That may be true. But it is also true that the Rangers were carrying the play up until the goal. In any event, it doesn't matter. They're down 2 and need this game. Big uphill climb from here.
how much are you really carrying  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 9:55 pm : link
the play when you can't generate chances, though?

It was basically both teams playing in a shell and not giving up anything, then tanner glass gambled for no reason.
Rangers werent carrying the play  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 9:59 pm : link
they barely had a shot advantage despite 4-1 edge in PP at the time.

Look is what it is - by now it should be clear to everyone that they are a little better. And their core is under 25.

We need a quick goal to get back in this thing. Their two weaknesses are a perhaps injured Bishop (I'm not sure about that), and their youth. Put some pressure on them and see how they respond. It's our only shot at this point - their talent is clearly superior, we need to win on structure, coaching and experience.
RE: Rangers werent carrying the play  
CGiants07 : 5/24/2015 10:02 pm : link
In comment 12299560 MetsAreBack said:
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they barely had a shot advantage despite 4-1 edge in PP at the time.

Look is what it is - by now it should be clear to everyone that they are a little better. And their core is under 25.

We need a quick goal to get back in this thing. Their two weaknesses are a perhaps injured Bishop (I'm not sure about that), and their youth. Put some pressure on them and see how they respond. It's our only shot at this point - their talent is clearly superior, we need to win on structure, coaching and experience.


they were winning time of possession but neither team was getting lots of chances
uh oh  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:04 pm : link
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i have no idea  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:04 pm : link
what Kreider is doing tonight. Not even looking where he's throwing hte puck because he wants to hit someone.
we're  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:07 pm : link
playing this period like it's 0-0.

Who cares if you lose 4-0 or 2-0. Take some fucking chances
Has Bishop  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:08 pm : link
even broken a sweat yet?
I am really sick  
Essex : 5/24/2015 10:09 pm : link
This will be our third blown game 5 in an ECF at home when the series was tied 2-2. Devils 94 and 12. When you are this close to the cup you can't piss away such a vital game.
Can't keep getting shots blocked or missing the net  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:10 pm : link
... need to force Bishop to handle the puck ... he was giving up rebounds like candy in game 4 yet in game 5 the Rangers can't get the puck on net
nice play by Nash  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:10 pm : link
and Stepan misses the net by 5 feet.

Guys just didn't show up tonight. You'd think with all this experience in the locker room you wouldn't see so many guys choking on a dick tonight.
Bishop  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:12 pm : link
spits out another rebound and no one is htere
That was our best scoring chance all game  
Essex : 5/24/2015 10:12 pm : link
Which is sad
Stralman  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:14 pm : link
has been the best player on the ice for Tampa tonight, which is just infuriating
pass the fucking puck  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:15 pm : link
Moore
i mean we cant keep having this conversation  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:16 pm : link
but when everyone in this fucking room knew what a dumb as fuck decision it was to let Stralman walk to sign a 39 year old.... I mean I'm still a year later fucking speechless. And he's gets paid?
Tampa  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:17 pm : link
wouldn't be in this round without Stralman.
Not a lot of scoring chances  
dpinzow : 5/24/2015 10:17 pm : link
not a lot of time now
this looks like game 6  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:20 pm : link
of ECF last year, except we're the Canadiens. I feel like we have no chance to score
that wasn't  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:20 pm : link
interference?
Just can't get the puck through to Bishop  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:23 pm : link
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Well we were down 3-2 in 94 in the ECF  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/24/2015 10:23 pm : link
and pulled it off. Here's hoping for similar results this go round.
we laid yet another egg  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:24 pm : link
in a huge game that's not a game 7 at home in the ECF.

Infuriating. They keep playing with fire and eventually they're going to get burned.
RE: i mean we cant keep having this conversation  
Essex : 5/24/2015 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12299579 MetsAreBack said:
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but when everyone in this fucking room knew what a dumb as fuck decision it was to let Stralman walk to sign a 39 year old.... I mean I'm still a year later fucking speechless. And he's gets paid?


Look, I am not going to defend signing Boyle and letting Stralman go, but everybody last year was saying we needed a qb for the PP. maybe we made the wrong choice in Boyle, but the fact remains we needed a better pp. anyway, this team was much better this year and played much differently than last year's squad.
No urgency  
benwa27 : 5/24/2015 10:24 pm : link
Can't believe how little urgency there is out there. Just mind boggling.
Stralman  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:25 pm : link
is good enough to be a QB on their powerplay, and theirs is much better than ours.

They never gave him a chance
I thought the 94 ECF comparisons ended  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:25 pm : link
on the 18 year anniversary to the day the Devils and Marty Brodeur put us away in OT game 6.

Maybe not.

We just don't have the consistency offensively that is needed to win a Cup. After one nice game I didn't notice 61 all night. You sure as fuck noticed Stamkos.
they've played  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:26 pm : link
this entire 3rd period like it was 0-0.

When you're down 2-0 in a playoff game in the 3rd period and the other team doesn't have any odd man rushes in the 3rd period, something is wrong. That means you're playing too damn conservatively. Take some fucking chances
RE: RE: i mean we cant keep having this conversation  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:28 pm : link
In comment 12299590 Essex said:
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anyway, this team was much better this year and played much differently than last year's squad.



I judge this team by playoff performance. Not by their ability to beat Carolina in December.
0 fucking urgency  
nygmen84 : 5/24/2015 10:30 pm : link
They played like it was a mid December game. Disgusting.
Just no urgency tonight whatsoever  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/24/2015 10:31 pm : link
Very disappointing
this team  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:32 pm : link
has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to having their backs against the wall, but you can't keep doing this time and time again. Eventually you're not going to be able to get it done
gonna get shut out in a huge game by a shitty goalie  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2015 10:32 pm : link
and a mostly shitty bunch of defensemen. Jeez.
shut out in the biggest game of the year  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:32 pm : link
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rangers dont play there best until backs to the wall  
CGiants07 : 5/24/2015 10:33 pm : link
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tampa  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:34 pm : link
has a grand total of 2 good defensemen and shut us out. A bunch of ham 'n eggers otherwise and a goalie who is the definition of mediocre. Pathetic. At no point did I ever feel like we were going to score tonight. And it had nothing to do with their goaltender, he didn't have to make one difficult save the entire night.
RE: rangers dont play there best until backs to the wall  
bluesince56 : 5/24/2015 10:34 pm : link
In comment 12299606 CGiants07 said:
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Down 1-3 to the Caps?
What a poor coaching job  
nygmen84 : 5/24/2015 10:35 pm : link
As well. AV let this team come out flat and play with 0 purpose or urgency.
RE: they've played  
theold5j : 5/24/2015 10:35 pm : link
Very similar to game 7 a few years ago against Washington when they had 1 shot on goal in the entire 3rd period

In comment 12299596 MookGiants said:
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this entire 3rd period like it was 0-0.

When you're down 2-0 in a playoff game in the 3rd period and the other team doesn't have any odd man rushes in the 3rd period, something is wrong. That means you're playing too damn conservatively. Take some fucking chances
Got to get them next game  
hudson : 5/24/2015 10:37 pm : link
I see something like game 4 and think what a shame this team has the ability.
the reason this time is so different  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:38 pm : link
is unlike Ottawa, Washington (3x), Philly, even Pittsburgh last year.... we're playing a more talented team on the other side this time around.

I don't blame the players on this one. The other team is better. Is what it is.

We can blame Sather I guess or AV if he was involved too - reality is we made the final 4 for the 3rd time in 4 years, but barring a miracle, yet again it won't be enough. It's near impossible to win without a star offensive player or your GM batting damn near 1.000 if he doesn't have those lottery picks to build around.

Sather did ok but you cant fuck up as much as he did this offseason. Can't happen - cant have the Stralman downgrade, can't bet the entire fucking farm on a marginal player like Yandle, can't trade Brian Boyle for Tanner Glass... even Chris Hayes, as great a year as he's had and a great signing LT, he's overmatched in this postseason as a 3rd line C which is what so many of us feared... 4 points now in 17 games. He's a kid, I'm not mad at him... he's just overmatched.
Pittsburgh  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:40 pm : link
last year was more talented than us, come on. That team was really good.

I know you love Tampa, but they looked very average against both Detroit and Montreal.

Oddly enough Tampa was down 2-1 to Detroit, won game 4. Then laid an egg at home, and came back to dominate game 6 and get outplayed but win game 7
They played with the same urgency two nights ago  
djm : 5/24/2015 10:40 pm : link
Difference is two nights ago they finished.

Things look a lot better when you hit the net and finish. Rangers got outshot two nights ago and Tampa was all over the ice. Didn't matter Rangers were lethally accurate with their shots. Tonight Nash has a point blank opportunity from 20 ft out and he missed the net. Few minutes later Tampa scored and this shit was over. Mab nailed it we aren't consistent enough offensively. Rangers are a damn good team every team has lapses but they need to score a lot of goals in game 6. Simple as that.
and LOL  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:41 pm : link
at "barring a miracle"

How exactly would it be a miracle to win the next 2 games?

Difficult? Yes. Miracle? Absolutely not.
you love to lean on that first round  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:43 pm : link
its the hardest round to win in the Stanley Cup. Detroit played them well but after the series was over even Babcock admitted that series never should have been so close.

Get used to this Tampa team winning Championships. Hedman is a young Chara with more offensive skill.
Detroit  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:45 pm : link
outplayed them in 5 of the 7 games in that series. Dominated game 7 but couldn't bury anything.

Babcock can say whatever he wants, Tampa wasn't very good that series and they weren't very good against Montreal either.

You do this all th etime. Throw dirt on the Rangers when it's not over. It would not take anything close to a miracle to win this series.
oh and more fun news  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 10:46 pm : link
1-4 against this fucking team at MSG this year now, Bishop moves to 11-2 against us now.

Amazing how we can play the Caps so well in this building over the years but we can't get to a Tampa team with pretty much all of its stars under 25 yrs old.
1-4  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:47 pm : link
at MSG is head scratching, considering they were basically a .500 road team.
Miracle or not ... fact is the Rangers are up against it now ...  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:48 pm : link
historical odds are overwhelming against them winning the series ... tonight was their "momentum game" after their game 4 win, and to get shut out is inexcusable and certainly takes any emotional momentum away

Obviously they can win the next two, but the odds are that for all practical purposes the most magical season in my 62 years ended tonight.
Anyone ever seen MAB and Lou Holtz in the same room?  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2015 10:50 pm : link
My god man....Tampa is not the 1985 Oilers or the 1976 Canadiens. And Victor Hedman is not Zeno...... cmon
Is not Zdeno Chara that is  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2015 10:51 pm : link
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78%  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:51 pm : link
of game 5 winners in 2-2 go on to win the series.

But this team has been there and done that, they aren't going to panic being down in this spot.

I'm not saying they are going to get it doen, but you would think after getting it done so many times that MAB wouldn't throw dirt on them every single time.
RE: 78%  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 10:55 pm : link
In comment 12299630 MookGiants said:
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of game 5 winners in 2-2 go on to win the series.

But this team has been there and done that, they aren't going to panic being down in this spot.

I'm not saying they are going to get it doen, but you would think after getting it done so many times that MAB wouldn't throw dirt on them every single time.


I agree they won't panic. And they have been incredibly resilient this year. But they've really dug themselves a hole now. And have to figure out how to get a puck on net. I mean it's really pretty amazing how few shots they got on net and how few truly tough shots got through to Bishop.
MAB  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 10:58 pm : link
must be the leader of the Lightning fan club. LOL at predicting a bunch of titles for them.

I remember when Sidney Crosby won his first, everyone assumed it would lead to multiple. He hasn't sniffed one since.

He acts like this is the greatest young roster ever put together in the history of the sport.
No matter how resilient a team is  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2015 11:00 pm : link
Eventually someone's going to make you pay in an elimination game. That's just reality. Doesn't mean they can't pull this out - if they win game 6 I feel very confident they take the series - but you can't leave yourself on the brink of losing over and over indefinitely.
See its not like these guys want to go to the brink every time  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 11:09 pm : link

Talent wins in this league. Not sure we had quite enough of it 100% healthy anyway, but we're certainly not as talented without Zuccarello out of the lineup for a month now either. Not when MSL is a walking corpse out there. Just a brutal break that was so fucking preventable with 21st century equipment.

Everyone talks about the triplets, Stamkos is on another planet right now.
RE: MAB  
baadbill : 5/24/2015 11:13 pm : link
In comment 12299633 MookGiants said:
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must be the leader of the Lightning fan club. LOL at predicting a bunch of titles for them.

I remember when Sidney Crosby won his first, everyone assumed it would lead to multiple. He hasn't sniffed one since.

He acts like this is the greatest young roster ever put together in the history of the sport.


My wife reminded me this morning that early in the year when the Rangers first lost to Tampa Bay, that I told her I believed TB was my pick to win the Cup this year. Of course I told her she was a jackass for reminding me of that today.
Stan Fischler told me the Rangers would win 5-2 tonight.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 11:22 pm : link
And LOLMAB.
and fuck Ryan Callahan.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 11:26 pm : link
(And McDonagh)
MAB, come on man  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2015 11:29 pm : link
I know we're frustrated, but just stop. This series isn't over.
Leave MAB alone.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 11:30 pm : link
He has a trip to Aruba on the line.
Weak fucking effort, boys.  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2015 11:32 pm : link
But we're gonna win this series. This team is just never going to go the easy route. Something we just needed to accept.

Good job getting us Game 4, beard.

I gotta clean up the mess again. I got us.
#teamarc.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 11:33 pm : link
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I love Aruba  
MetsAreBack : 5/24/2015 11:35 pm : link
and it was easy money.
RE: I love Aruba  
MookGiants : 5/24/2015 11:38 pm : link
In comment 12299660 MetsAreBack said:
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and it was easy money.


This act is getting tired. Really.

Easy money, on a team that took 7 games against probably the worst team in the east, and still hasn't even made the stanley cup finals.

Funny. You've shoveled dirt on the Rangers chances every chance you could over the last couple years, wouldn't expect any different now.
Fuck Aruba.  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2015 11:45 pm : link
It's not over. Not even close.
Well, it's pretty close.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2015 11:46 pm : link
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One shift at a time  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2015 11:49 pm : link
Just get it back home.
RE: Well, it's pretty close.  
baadbill : 5/25/2015 12:04 am : link
In comment 12299666 BrettNYG10 said:
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Can't get much closer. I suppose it could be 0-3. In fact, thinking of it that way, 2-3 sounds absolutely fantastic!
I thought Boyle had a nice game.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 12:22 am : link
Yandle and Boyle have probably been the best defenseman this series, which isn't a good sign. Both got more time than McDonagh tonight.

Klein was awful.

If the Rangers lose this series, McDonagh's play in game three will be running through my head all off-season. I'd give both Mook's balls for last year's McDonagh.
RE: No matter how resilient a team is  
Essex : 5/25/2015 8:05 am : link
In comment 12299635 Greg from LI said:
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Eventually someone's going to make you pay in an elimination game. That's just reality. Doesn't mean they can't pull this out - if they win game 6 I feel very confident they take the series - but you can't leave yourself on the brink of losing over and over indefinitely.


Exactly. See 2012 NY Rangers playoffs as evidence
RE: RE: I love Aruba  
MetsAreBack : 5/25/2015 8:51 am : link
In comment 12299661 MookGiants said:
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Funny. You've shoveled dirt on the Rangers chances every chance you could over the last couple years, wouldn't expect any different now.


Hyperbole. And your act when your team loses is to attack other posters on here for whatever reason though. And of course curse a lot too.
Good karma  
Andy in Halifax : 5/25/2015 10:13 am : link
You lost to the Sens 2-0 in game 5 at home a few years ago.

If anyone is likely to come back, its the Rangers!
Shit the lightening lost game 5 this year to Detroit  
Essex : 5/25/2015 11:02 am : link
And rallied to win 6 on the road and 7 at home. I just think when you haven't been the better team, it is a hard ask. I think, as I am sure everyone who has followed the Rangers know, they have the mental makeup to come back. I really think they have been outclassed in this series and that matters when trying to win 2 in a row.
Essex  
MookGiants : 5/25/2015 12:59 pm : link
Tampa wasn't the better team against Detroit heading into game 6, either. But they found a way. Hell they were dominated in game 7 and won 2-0.

We were outclassed against the Penguins last year and had to win 2 games on the road to come back down 3-1.

It's not going to be easy by any stretch, but this team can do it.
A few things:  
Anakim : 5/25/2015 1:48 pm : link
I'm not happy by the limited adjustments AV is making. That was one of the criticisms of his coming out of Vancouver. He doesn't make enough adjustments when the game calls for it. That doesn't mean we have to go back to the days of Torts and shuffle the lines (what felt like) almost every game to get the team going. We do need to have some fluidity and continuity, but there have been games not just in the playoffs, but throughout the season where the team looked lost and had nothing going and AV continued to roll out the same lines and it costs us games. If it's broken, fix it. If it's not broken, don't fix it.


As Mook and I have been saying for a while, Marty is done and I don't why people were expecting him to turn it around after he scored. The guy scored on an empty net and was set up by a beautiful pass by Yandle and Brassard. That's why he scored. Tanner Glass would've scored on the same play.
I don't blame Marty. I just think that he's done. He looks ready to retire and probably should. I would be very pissed if we brought him back, even at the vet. min. It sucks that he had to play his worst hockey at a time where we needed him the most, but he's done.

Break up the fucking defensive pairings. Put Girardi with Yandle, McDonagh with Klein and Staal with Boyle. This team needs balance. The McDonagh/Girardi pair has been awful for most of the season and the playoffs and while they may be the best defensemen on the roster, it doesn't mean they should be paired together. Pairings are all about chemistry. That's why you put a superstar like Hedman with a big goof like Andrej Sustr and it seems to work.

We need Zuccarello back badly. BADLY. Any chance at all that he plays tomorrow night?
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 1:55 pm : link
I feel worse about this team's chances coming down from 3-2 against Tampa than I did against Washington down 4-3, which I acknowledge is irrational.

My dad's been on Klein's case all playoff. Thinks he's been quietly awful - he certainly was last night. Agreed with Anak on the D pairings.

TB didn't play particularly well last night, either. Just get it to seven.
And if I see Marty St. Louis on the fucking power play...  
Anakim : 5/25/2015 2:31 pm : link
I'm gonna lose it
I forgot who raised the point,  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 2:33 pm : link
But we came off a series of games where the PP2 unit was great, particularly Yandle - why the fuck were they not the first unit?
RE: I forgot who raised the point,  
Anakim : 5/25/2015 3:00 pm : link
In comment 12299886 BrettNYG10 said:
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But we came off a series of games where the PP2 unit was great, particularly Yandle - why the fuck were they not the first unit?


Good question. I mean Boyle has played well on the PP as of late, but St. Louis has sucked balls. I would replace St. Louis with Yandle and put Yandle and Boyle at the points.
I do NOT  
chopperhatch : 5/25/2015 3:21 pm : link
see TB as just the better club. I just dont and they arent. Lol at Hedman being a young Chara. Thats just funny.
and I think you lost all credibility last round to opine now  
MetsAreBack : 5/25/2015 3:43 pm : link

Hedman was the 2nd overall pick in the draft, just 24 years old and already the best defensman on the ice in this ECF. funny but there was an article just this morning that compared him to chara and kronwall. but hey your eye test knows better than the experts

look I'll gladly eat crow if we come back. trust me - gladly. give me extra helpings please

but.... a sobering stat: this core group is now 38-36 in the postseason over the past 4 years. what was supposed to be a golden age... just way too many disappointing clusterfucks like last night with lack of flow offensively, guys missing the net by 5-10 feet, etc. WTF
Zucc was apparently upgraded to day to day but hasn't  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 4:08 pm : link
Skated since Thursday? Weird.
I really hate this  
hudson : 5/25/2015 7:04 pm : link
Mean this their best chance and we're doing it without Zucc.
I just don't them having the stamina to do better next year; please find a way.
RE: I really hate this  
Anakim : 5/25/2015 7:52 pm : link
In comment 12300043 hudson said:
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Mean this their best chance and we're doing it without Zucc.
I just don't them having the stamina to do better next year; please find a way.


Is this written in code?
.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 8:21 pm : link
Adam Herman ‏@AdamHerman_BSB 4m4 minutes ago
Of all playoff dmen who have played at least 150 minutes, Dan Boyle has allowed the few shot attempts against per 60 minutes.
there is no way  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 8:26 pm : link
this isn't going 7. Rangers are a good road team and getting it back to MSG for a game 7 is as sure a W as there is in sports right now.
GDI pj, you jinxing fuck.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 8:27 pm : link
You already did enough cursing us with McDonagh.
I've been spot on  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 8:34 pm : link
this series. 5v5 play the Rangers look to be dominant even if they're not scoring, the TB pp has killed them, almost 50% in the 3 TB wins.
I like McDonagh  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 8:37 pm : link
he's American, I want him to do well and no clue WTF is wrong with him.

he's not playing total bad games like some guys, but he's had some serious WTF moments.

I will say his offensive game has surprised me and he's come up big this series at times. I always thought he's be a top 4 stay at home D-man, but little two-way to his game.

he's better than I thought, though not this series.
I could do without  
MookGiants : 5/25/2015 8:44 pm : link
the Canadiens and Islanders fans showing so much confidence in the Rangers. Trying to jinx us
Sorry Mook  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 8:49 pm : link
no jinx intended, just my opinion, but I get the sentiment and I'll keep my comments to my self.

good luck
His struggles this post-season have me confused (and pissed).  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 8:49 pm : link
He makes 3-4 bonehead plays a game, and his defense was as bad as possible in game three. He looked like a bond fide #1 defenseman last post-season. He never had the top flight offensive talent to be a Norris contender, but he was elite defensively. Not so this year.

He actually looked alright last night other than an early turnover.
And he is actually really intelligent in regards to when he chooses to  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 8:50 pm : link
Pinch. But he needs be elite defensively.
RE: And he is actually really intelligent in regards to when he chooses to  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12300126 BrettNYG10 said:
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Pinch. But he needs be elite defensively.


agree Brett, last comment from me. McDonagh's transition game is incredible, he has great vision and that surprised me a little, which makes the defensive mental lapses disappointing.
I don't really believe in jinxes because I'm not three years old.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 9:04 pm : link
Keep commenting.
I'd love Corey Perry on the Rangers.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/25/2015 9:07 pm : link
He is such a douche.
Please  
djm : 5/25/2015 9:53 pm : link
Any true isles or Habs fan does NOT want to see the rangers win. Everyone hates the Rangers. Fuck the hell off with this good karma and good feelings bullshit. You are praying that the Rangers lose tomorrow night. I know it and you know it so kindly fuck off. See right through that bullshit.
RE: Sorry Mook  
hudson : 5/25/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12300124 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
no jinx intended, just my opinion, but I get the sentiment and I'll keep my comments to my self.

good luck

Let's hope you're not too late to "catch" the drift.
I never once said I wanted the Rangers  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2015 9:56 pm : link
to win. So you can fuck the hell off with this reading comprehension shit.

I don't give a shit if they do, but with my team eliminated I don't care who wins, zero shits given.

I merely posted my opinion.

if that bothers you, I make no apologies.
Guys..  
arcarsenal : 5/25/2015 10:07 pm : link
Stop being stupid.

pj is just giving his opinion. He's not being a douche or trying to "jinx" the Rangers (seriously, stop with this shit).

There's really no reason to keep getting on the guys case. Give it up. If you don't care what he has to say, ignore it. I have no issue with the perception of a fan of another team. Stop being so goddamn sensitive.
bah!  
B in ALB : 5/25/2015 10:11 pm : link
It's all nonsense. Isles fans and guys like PJ are just following the threads and posting their thoughts. There are no jinxes. It's all good. Win tomorrow night and we're on business.
I agree  
Anakim : 5/25/2015 10:53 pm : link
There are no jinxes. Just like the game not being affected when a certain BBIer starts the game thread.

RIGHT, B? :)
i wasn't singling out PJ  
djm : 5/26/2015 1:35 pm : link
I was grouping all you fucks together.

And if you live in the NYC area, you absolutely hate the Rangers and want them losing tonight. If you live in the Montreal area you probably don't care...but again I wasn't singling out one specific person.

I don't trust Habs fans at all...I assume the worst. Go eat a fucking croisannt...
don't want to sound like a dick  
djm : 5/26/2015 4:36 pm : link
and sometimes shit gets lost in translation. I was mostly kidding...you guys don't stir up an shit..

I just convinced myself that me cursing out a Habs or Isles fan on the web will help the Rangers win tonight. Can't blame me...
I dont see anything wrong with cursing out an Isles or Habs fan  
MetsAreBack : 5/26/2015 4:43 pm : link

(or Bruins or Caps - fuck you, Tony - or Flyers or hudson fan either)

Why apologize and even more importantly, why do you feel like you need an excuse to curse those cocksuckers out today?? I certainly dont need one.

Fuck them. See you on the links tomorrow boys.
I don't care who anyone curses  
pjcas18 : 5/27/2015 1:54 am : link
out, that's who you are then have at it.

My point was I was not saying I wanted the Rangers to win.

I said I thought they would.

It wasn't about jinxing anyone or anything superstitious or reverse psychology. My father and brother (who posts on here sometimes) are both diehard Rangers and Yankees fans, yet I still don't give a shit if the Rangers win.

I said "there's no way this doesn't go 7 and when it does game 7 is about as good a bet in sports right now the way Hank and the Rangers play game 7's." or something like that.

if the Rangers lose, I'm wrong and I don't care.

that's what I think will happen if that offends anyone as I said I make no apologies and Brett is right I'll keep posting, I love hockey and nothing like a game 7.
RE: I don't care who anyone curses  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:21 am : link
In comment 12301931 pjcas18 said:
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I said "there's no way this doesn't go 7 and when it does game 7 is about as good a bet in sports right now the way Hank and the Rangers play game 7's." or something like that.



? You said Rangers in 5 - said the series was over if the Rangers won game 2.

Anyway, thanks for your support. I know a couple of cool Habs fans -- too bad they're overshadowed by all the others.

I just checked my schedule - sorry Fish and FEKker, turns out my tee time is Saturday not today. Have fun out there!
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