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Bobby Hart Shows Some Decent Mobility in This Clip

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/24/2015 10:12 pm
Small sample size, but this is best tape of him I could find so far...
ESPN - ( New Window )
we really need to get lucky one year  
viggie : 5/24/2015 10:21 pm : link
and hit on a good UFA or lower round Olineman
It would be great if he could become something, but it  
yatqb : 5/24/2015 10:24 pm : link
shows how desperate we all feel when we're hoping for a 7th rounder to help the team on the OL.
Lots of teams need late round picks  
UConn4523 : 5/24/2015 10:43 pm : link
to step up. While we don't need Hart to do that, it would be nice if he can contribute if called upon at some point late in the season.
nice block on that last play.  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2015 10:47 pm : link
I can see why he projects to G rather than T, though.
RE: It would be great if he could become something, but it  
Mason : 5/24/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12299593 yatqb said:
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shows how desperate we all feel when we're hoping for a 7th rounder to help the team on the OL.


Not for nothing but I remember reading that around 50% of the league starting OL are either late round or UDFA. And the elite offensive teams had around only one or two first round picks on their lines. Coaching matters a ton at non-skill positions whether people want to believe it or not. Some teams can pull guys off the street and get them coached up to some degree.

My OPTIMISTIC projection  
KeoweeFan : 5/24/2015 11:24 pm : link
has Flowers at LT to start the season with Hart @ at RG mid season with someone like Newhouse as a place marker.
UConn and Mason, I agree that even UDFAs can make a team  
yatqb : 5/24/2015 11:40 pm : link
and become valuable starters (Seuie for example). My comment was really about the loss of Beatty, and a situation where we seemed to finally have realistic chance to have a very good line, only to now have to scramble like heck to make it work.
This video I found shows....  
BlueGuy : 5/25/2015 2:27 am : link
....all of the lineman that were drafted this and last year out of FSU. It is a game against Clemson from 2013.

Bobby Hart is the worst of the bunch. He should NEVER play tackle in this league. He is a guard, at best.

Tre' Jackson, Matias and Stork are NFL caliber players. Why we took Richburg when Stork was available is beyond me. Stork was 6'4", 315 lbs. coming out who centered and anchored a National Championship line. Richburg was 6'3", 298 lbs. and played for Colorado State.

Belichick gets Stork in the fourth and we got Richburg in the second. Another classic overreach by Reese.
You can see videos of Bobby Hart by viewing  
Ira : 5/25/2015 6:28 am : link
any Florida State game and watching the right tackle. I wouldn't expect anything from him any time soon.
What?  
JohnB : 5/25/2015 7:01 am : link
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Belichick gets Stork in the fourth and we got Richburg in the second. Another classic overreach by Reese.


During the draft, Richburg was seen as a very good pick up by the Giants. I don't recall even one person saying that he was a "reach" as a second round pick.
How  
DG_89 : 5/25/2015 7:48 am : link
can Richburg be an overrreach when he was considered the best or in the case of some experts 2nd best (after Marcus Martin) center in the draft?
I found his interviews interesting  
bc4life : 5/25/2015 8:00 am : link
in that he seemed to think that guard was equally if not more demanding than tackle. Talked about things happening quicker, and having reduced opportunity to recover from mistakes.
And did the kid no favors  
nyynyg : 5/25/2015 8:55 am : link
by drafting him in the second and then switched his freaking position instead of playing him at center. That was a blunder and a half, don't care what FA we signed.
Right or wrong...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/25/2015 9:05 am : link
the Giants (Ross and scouts) said in "Finding Giants" that Weston Richburg was the best center in the draft.
I think he looks a good deal better than any of our recent  
Andy in Halifax : 5/25/2015 9:15 am : link
late round OL picks. I don't think Brewer, Mosely or any of the other guys we added late were as promising as him from looking at tape.

That's a low bar, but I hope he shows to be a find.
where can i find video on finding giants?  
CMicks3110 : 5/25/2015 9:21 am : link
Eric, you've mentioned it many times recently, sounds like a good watch
He's  
AcidTest : 5/25/2015 9:32 am : link
got size and strength, but he's a seventh round pick. Everybody passed on him, including the Giants, many times. Right now, he's another attempt by Reese and company to find a hidden OL gem. Brewer, Petrus, Mosley, and Herman haven't worked out, but eventually Reese may hit on one of these experiments. That one could be Hart. Or not. What we want from Hart and Jones right now is to be good enough to replace one or more of Mosley, Herman, or Reynolds. OL is just one of many positions where our depth consists of JAGs.
Mosley has all the AA in the world.  
yatqb : 5/25/2015 9:35 am : link
His Combine #s were off the charts. Not sure what his problem is, but compared to Hart he's got so much more to work with.
RE: He's  
Ira : 5/25/2015 9:39 am : link
In comment 12299721 AcidTest said:
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got size and strength, but he's a seventh round pick. Everybody passed on him, including the Giants, many times. Right now, he's another attempt by Reese and company to find a hidden OL gem. Brewer, Petrus, Mosley, and Herman haven't worked out, but eventually Reese may hit on one of these experiments. That one could be Hart. Or not. What we want from Hart and Jones right now is to be good enough to replace one or more of Mosley, Herman, or Reynolds. OL is just one of many positions where our depth consists of JAGs.


Rich Seubert was an udrafted free agent, so you sometimes do get lucky.
Camp  
AcidTest : 5/25/2015 9:42 am : link
and preseason should be very exciting. With so much unproven depth at so many positions, there is a real opportunity for some lesser known players to step up and seize a roster spot.

Criticism of Reese for taking Richburg is silly as others have noted.
RE: And did the kid no favors  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/25/2015 9:46 am : link
In comment 12299711 nyynyg said:
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by drafting him in the second and then switched his freaking position instead of playing him at center. That was a blunder and a half, don't care what FA we signed.


Not a blunder. Giants had no one else to play G. They put their best 5 out there. The blunder is in the misses I've the years and Reese's belief he can build an OL w later picks and FA. Beatty going down highlights how badly the FO Has been when it comes to the OL. They have now spent 2 firsts and a 2nd in the last 3 years along w the Schwartz pick up and still have one of the worst OLs in terms of overall talent and depth in the NFL.

We Will know more after training camp but the OL is a total question mark. It may be better than most think ot it could be bottom of the barrel again If they can improve to mediocre with their run blocking thatau be the best thing as it would change the whol dynamic of the offense and allow the deficiencies of the pass blocking to be at least somewhat neutralized.
CMicks3110  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/25/2015 9:57 am : link
In order to cut expenses, we ditched satellite/cable and simply went with a HD antenna and Roku. Through Roku, we have it on the NFL Network page (which costs $2 per month). The good news is that they have an extended cuts version of Finding Giants on there. I'd be surprised if you can't find it somewhere else too like iTunes.
Cmicks  
notoriousc : 5/25/2015 10:38 am : link
I have fios and you can get it "On demand." just check nfl network
AcidTest  
bc4life : 5/25/2015 11:12 am : link
Brewer and Herman are not really good comparisons - Brewer's play was limited college and Herman did not play at the same level of competition.

Mosley was reportedly coming along but seems to get hurt a lot.

I look at Hart as a guy playing tackle who many think will be strictly guard material in the nfl.
RE: AcidTest  
AcidTest : 5/25/2015 1:50 pm : link
In comment 12299782 bc4life said:
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Brewer and Herman are not really good comparisons - Brewer's play was limited college and Herman did not play at the same level of competition.

Mosley was reportedly coming along but seems to get hurt a lot.

I look at Hart as a guy playing tackle who many think will be strictly guard material in the nfl.


They were OL who didn't work out. The better teams seem to find decent backup OL in the mid to later rounds more regularly. We really haven't found anyone. Brewer's play was limited by injuries, but he still played at a Big Ten school. Herman had tons of pancake blocks. Mosley couldn't even beat out Jerry.
RE: Mosley has all the AA in the world.  
BlueLou : 5/25/2015 5:54 pm : link
In comment 12299723 yatqb said:
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His Combine #s were off the charts. Not sure what his problem is, but compared to Hart he's got so much more to work with.


Mosley's game tape from Auburn showed a guy who's stiff and lumbering in real play, no matter what his combine #s say. We COULD have drafted better OL than we did in late-middle rounds. Ricky Wagner in the 4th, Clint Boling in the 3rd. We just keep hitting on the wrong guys late in the draft for our OL. Maybe we should focus on players more than combine skills.
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