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Deflate gate...is this scientific

That’s Gold, Jerry : 5/25/2015 9:22 am
evidence?

Not a scientist but I do know weather conditions affect footballs. As we all know, when weather gets cold, footballs actually tend to become like rocks. For anyone who watched the America's Game 2011 Giants last night, Coughlin noted how Tynes had kicked a 47 yard field goal to win the 2008 NFC championship game in OT "kicking a ball that was a rock"

Now, this past Saturday morning, the temperature here dipped to below freezing and, as usually happens, I lost air pressure on my tires. How did I know that...because the warning light on my dash came on. Similarly, yesterday the temperature went up and the warning light disappeared off my dash.

Now, that's probably at least a two pound PSI shift either way. Admittedly, tires are much larger. Nonetheless, I think the scientific principle is obvious...when it is cold, there is contraction and a loss of air pressure in things like a football. Similarly, in warm weather, it is more than likely that expansion takes place in terms of air in a football.

I wonder, do they measure footballs in Miami or San Diego when it is hot to see if the footballs have too much air in them? Seems pretty logical to me that this so-called "DeflateGate" is a farce.

A little late on this, I know, but the weather circumstances just happened and opened my eyes on this.
Weather must have been a lot colder on the Patriot side of the field  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/25/2015 9:31 am : link
Than on the Colts side of the field.
Did one of your tires remain at the correct pressure,  
JohnB : 5/25/2015 9:50 am : link
while the rest were not? That's what happened with the Pats.

Tough to explain that one away.
RE: Weather must have been a lot colder on the Patriot side of the field  
Moondawg : 5/25/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12299720 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Than on the Colts side of the field.


Lol.
RE: Weather must have been a lot colder on the Patriot side of the field  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12299720 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Than on the Colts side of the field.


The problem with this comment, while made in jest, is thatit assumes that the Colts and Patriots started with balls inflated to the same PSI. But given that the NFL allows for an acceptable range of PSI, there is nothing to suggest they did. If the Colts inflate their balls to a higher end of the range than the Patriots, then the cold weather could cause the Colts balls to lose air pressure but still be in the acceptable range and higher than the Patriots' balls.
At Least 2 Things Going On  
Trainmaster : 5/25/2015 1:16 pm : link
A ball that has been in a warm room, measured there, then taken outside, left there, then measured there will show a drop in air pressure and will feel softer.

I'd assume the leather in the ball is softer, more bendable / pliable at warmer temperatures.

So you have two somewhat opposite effects going on: taking the ball outside into the cold makes the pressure go down (softer), but the cold makes the ball's leather harder. Maybe Brady wanted the ball softer to offset the harder leather.
RE: RE: Weather must have been a lot colder on the Patriot side of the field  
Moondawg : 5/25/2015 2:05 pm : link
In comment 12299811 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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In comment 12299720 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:


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Than on the Colts side of the field.



The problem with this comment, while made in jest, is thatit assumes that the Colts and Patriots started with balls inflated to the same PSI. But given that the NFL allows for an acceptable range of PSI, there is nothing to suggest they did. If the Colts inflate their balls to a higher end of the range than the Patriots, then the cold weather could cause the Colts balls to lose air pressure but still be in the acceptable range and higher than the Patriots' balls.


This is true. It was just a funny comment, but good point.
RE: RE: Weather must have been a lot colder on the Patriot side of the field  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/25/2015 2:09 pm : link
In comment 12299811 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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In comment 12299720 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:


Quote:


Than on the Colts side of the field.



The problem with this comment, while made in jest, is thatit assumes that the Colts and Patriots started with balls inflated to the same PSI. But given that the NFL allows for an acceptable range of PSI, there is nothing to suggest they did. If the Colts inflate their balls to a higher end of the range than the Patriots, then the cold weather could cause the Colts balls to lose air pressure but still be in the acceptable range and higher than the Patriots' balls.


Your right, but I didn't think we wanted to get into the whole thing once again. If you read the NFL report, there is a much bigger comparative change in the Patriot balls than in the Colt balls even though the Colt balls are starting from a higher PSI. All of that is thoroughly detailed. People should read the NFL report summary at this point before promoting alternative theories. It is quite exhaustive and convincing in a lot of different areas. The fact that the OPs tire pressure goes down in the cold isn't exactly new news as it pertains to Deflategate.
Eh  
BigBlueShock : 5/25/2015 2:10 pm : link
I guess the Colts knew in advance that there would be some strange atmospheric pressure thing going on? Since they have said that they were looking for this "issue" concerning the Pats.

Oh, and the texts? The "Deflator"?

You guys are trying too hard. Sometimes, it just is what it is. Let go.
Did you actually read  
SwirlingEddie : 5/25/2015 2:35 pm : link
the Wells Report that addressed this very point with tests and expert testimony in some detail?
I'd say 70% of commenters on the Wells Report hadn't even skimmed it.  
TheManUpstairs : 5/26/2015 9:50 am : link
If I read one more pro-Brady comment along the lines of, "I wouldn't have turned my phone over with all my personal stuff, either!", my head may explode.

It's right in the report. Wells was willing to let Brady's attorneys screen the phone records and texts for relevance. No personal stuff AT ALL would have been turned over.
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