Mets
Curtis Granderson, RF
Juan Lagares, CF
Lucas Duda, 1B
Daniel Murphy, 2B
Michael Cuddyer, LF
Wilmer Flores, SS
Danny Muno, 3B
Anthony Recker, C
Bartolo Colon, RHP
Phillies
Ben Revere, LF
Freddy Galvis, SS
Chase Utley, 2B
Ryan Howard, 1B
Maikel Franco, 3B
Grady Sizemore, RF
Odubel Herrera, CF
Carlos Ruiz, C
Severino Gonzalez, RHP
Free falling Mets look to get it together against the Phillies. Can they get it together against the Phillies?? I honestly don't know right now.
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than any SS in baseball and has a higher OPS than Tulo, Rollins, Castro, Desmond, Andrus, ect.
Not saying the Flores supporters are vindicated yet, but if he keeps this up or God forbid even improves further.... forget it.
Flores is likely a top 5, top 3 even, SS in the game at seasons end.
Hes going to be our All star SS next season
At this point I wouldn't doubt it. He's still young and I think we all need to see that he's over the mental gaffes we saw in April but if he truly is, the sky is the limit.
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Well there your have it. Perhaps the most ridiculous perception one can have.
Geno Smith is the best in the league besides the mistakes.
Does geno smith do ANYTHING well? At least Flores can hit.
Nice try though.
Error on missing the point. You must be nervous
No, I got the point...sadly. I was just commenting on your swing and miss. I enjoy your shtick, though. Throw in another "cheerleader" comment and another 10 posts about Thor's knee and we can call it a night.
You are right. Moving on.
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Don't even know why you guys bother responding to this twit.
You are right. Moving on.
Two fickle cheerleaders after a win lol
Look out Below again looking strong in AAA tonight. Could Below be a lefty option at some point?
Reynolds continues to struggle. Its kind of good. He had so much success last year at multiple levels it will be important to see how he learns from this and hopefully comes out of this funk.
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There seem to be two options within the organization: Murphy and Flores.
Personally I'd switch Murphy to 3rd base and give Dilson the second base job. I think Murphy - Flores - Dilson is probably about the same defensively as Flores - Reynolds - Murphy, but the former is better offensively.
Look out Below again looking strong in AAA tonight. Could Below be a lefty option at some point?
Reynolds continues to struggle. Its kind of good. He had so much success last year at multiple levels it will be important to see how he learns from this and hopefully comes out of this funk.
Below career vs. lefties .295 BAA in 42 appearances... short answer. No.
Reyes scored a -.7 dear the year he and won a batting title too.
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in double A. Panrell had a clean inning yesterday apparently hitting 94. Looks like these guys both might finally be nearing a return after months of setbacks.
Look out Below again looking strong in AAA tonight. Could Below be a lefty option at some point?
Reynolds continues to struggle. Its kind of good. He had so much success last year at multiple levels it will be important to see how he learns from this and hopefully comes out of this funk.
Below career vs. lefties .295 BAA in 42 appearances... short answer. No.
Lol. Obviously something has clicked for him recently in AAA. I'm not interested in his career numbers prior. Below is the savior we have been waiting for clearly!! ;)
2010: 72.2 percent
2011: 72.5 percent
2012: 72.5 percent
2013: 73.5 percent
2014: 73.0 percent
Parnell, Black, Mejia, Blevins, Carlyle, Montero and Edgin.
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What gets lost on people is that player value is an aggregate figure. It's the reason why Flores is playing SS to begin with. He's not there because the FO thinks he's going to be a plus glove, he's there because his maximum potential value is almost certainly at SS.
What gets lost on people is that player value is an aggregate figure. It's the reason why Flores is playing SS to begin with. He's not there because the FO thinks he's going to be a plus glove, he's there because his maximum potential value is almost certainly at SS.
Exactly. This is what the "move Flores to 3B/2B" crowd don't seem to understand. He is MORE valuable as a SS. There's only a handful of players in the game capable of putting up those numbers from the SS position.
Put the kid, who already had to lose weight by age 24, over at 3rd. More consistent throws due to less ground to cover, if he gains some weight back it won't hinder him at 3rd like SS and watch him blast 30 homeruns per year.
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If Wilmer can put up Peralta type offensive numbers (.260, 20 HR, 75 RBI) all he has to do is be average defensively for him to be an overall plus at the position.
What gets lost on people is that player value is an aggregate figure. It's the reason why Flores is playing SS to begin with. He's not there because the FO thinks he's going to be a plus glove, he's there because his maximum potential value is almost certainly at SS.
Exactly. This is what the "move Flores to 3B/2B" crowd don't seem to understand. He is MORE valuable as a SS. There's only a handful of players in the game capable of putting up those numbers from the SS position.
I get that, I just disagree with it. For the same reason I wouldn't want to play Granderson in CF just to maximize his value. Maximizing individual players value's doesn't necessarily present the best overall option for the team. For the same reason we all love Lagares despite his offense, I'd like to have a guy with higher defensive upside at the equally critical position of SS. Especially since this team is built on pitching. I doubt any of us have seen enough of Reynolds/Flores to seriously compare their defensive abilities, but that's why I'd like to get a look at him. All we heard about Flores from sources IN the organization prior to playing SS at the MLB level was that he couldn't play SS, so who knows?
Also, if Flores is hitting between 20-30 homeruns and playing average defense at 2nd he will add plenty of value. Presumably a lot more than Murphy ever did, whose best season was 3.1fWar.
Flores has the potential to be an above average asset at SS. Moving him to 3B likely gives you average value at the position and not much more. The idea is to maximize player value.
Put the kid, who already had to lose weight by age 24, over at 3rd. More consistent throws due to less ground to cover, if he gains some weight back it won't hinder him at 3rd like SS and watch him blast 30 homeruns per year.
Drop it bro... Flores is our SS for the foreseeable future. The Mets aren't moving him. He's getting more and more comfortable out there and it's showing up in his play. Mainly due to all our injuries, Collins have finally allowed him to play everyday and get in a rhythm. And it's paid off.
Find something else to discuss. You must have other concerns. Because Flores shouldn't be your main one or at the top of your list.
FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Dodgers are talking to the Braves about a deal involving Juan Uribe and Alberto Callaspo.
No specifics yet, but Uribe and a minor leaguer would go to the Braves for Callaspo and three minor leaguers. Rosenthal hears from one source that the deal was close to being completed as of Monday night, which explains why Callaspo was a late-scratch from the Braves' lineup. Callaspo doesn't have much value to the Dodgers, but moving Uribe would officially clear the way for Alex Guerrero, Justin Turner, and Scott Van Slyke to take on more pronounced roles. Uribe, 36, is batting just .247/.287/.309 with one home run and six RBI through 87 plate appearances this season and is making $6.5 million. Because Callaspo signed a one-year, $3 million deal with the Braves as a free agent over the winter, he has the ability to veto any trade until June 15.
Source: Ken Rosenthal on TwitterMay 26 - 10:48 AM
In the meantime, TDA cant get here fast enough and lets hope the guys that are here continue to heat up.
Ridiculous.
Seriously? He's 36 and has trouble staying healthy...
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but Cuddyer has played a ton of third in his life. Acquiring a corner OF and moving Cuddyer to third might be a solution, although likely not the best one.
Seriously? He's 36 and has trouble staying healthy...
Yes. Seriously. 36 year olds cant play 3rd? Likely just as demanding as running around the OF. Obviously it wouldn't be ideal but maybe you could platoon a few players and get him in the lineup that way if you acquired an OF bat.
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Find something else to discuss. You must have other concerns. Because Flores shouldn't be your main one or at the top of your list.
I've hit on just every other concern since before opening day and Flores isn't going to go away anytime soon. It's amazing how another win over hapless Philly changes the whole tune but doesn't really change anything.
I expressed my Grandy, Cuddyer, Niese, Wright before this diagnosis, the middle infield, Murphy etc and have hit on all of them if you check out the predictions.
From his opening start, I mentioned how Thor's knee doesn't come up with a runner on first which makes his ball either dive or sail out of control. Few recognized it (and comically still don't) yet in Thor's second start with a runner on first, his knee dropped and his ball almost took off Gomez's face.
Jeff Kent, with 377 career homers and 1,518 RBIs, started his career briefly with Toronto, and was traded to the Mets in his rookie year in 1992 during that season. He had 305 at bats, 11 homers, 50 RBIs, hit .239. Nice RBIs, but otherwise nothing special.
In 1993 -1996, as a 25-28 year old, Kent substantially improved. The following 9 years, he averaged 110 RBIs. Mets were not patient enough, and missed what would have been their best offensive player ever.
Lucas Duda struggled with insecurity as a young arrival being used in an uncomfortable fielding position. He weathered a lot of criticism. He had some real hitting droughts. Was sent back to the minors. Patience on the fans' part was quite limited. Fans wanted him gone, Ike, Ike, he's our man, etc.
Then a funny thing happened. Duda won out over Ike last spring, got to play at 1B, turns out he fields darned well.
He also at the same time felt he belonged, and adjusted and improved. Especially since June 2014. Since then, he has hit .278 in 517 ABs, 34 doubles, 29 homers, 88 RBIs in a little over 140 starts.
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but Cuddyer has played a ton of third in his life. Acquiring a corner OF and moving Cuddyer to third might be a solution, although likely not the best one.
Seriously? He's 36 and has trouble staying healthy...
Yes. Seriously. 36 year olds cant play 3rd? Likely just as demanding as running around the OF. Obviously it wouldn't be ideal but maybe you could platoon a few players and get him in the lineup that way if you acquired an OF bat.
First of all, it's not called the hot corner for nothing, it's a VERY demanding position. Certainly more demanding that playing a corner OF position.
Second, he's hardly played a "ton" (as you put it) of 3B; he's played a whopping 174 games over 7 seasons. In other words, barely more than 1 season, over a 14 year career.
Third, outside of 3 games in 2014, he hasn't played 3B since 2010. And even that year, he played all of 14 games.
There is a reason why teams look to move 36 year olds OFF of 3rd base, to a position that is less demanding psychically; you don't see teams move a 36 year old TO 3B
So yeah, at this point in his career moving Cuddyer to 3B is pretty dumb idea