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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/25/2015 5:09 pm
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Man, that was ...  
BronxBob : 5/25/2015 6:12 pm : link
... fun !!
Imaging being a QB like Jaws  
Moondawg : 5/25/2015 6:13 pm : link
and knowing that whatever your coach tried to do, use an RB, TE, or Tackle, it wouldn't work and you were going to get hit.
Ya know....I watched every play LT made during his Giants career  
TheMick7 : 5/25/2015 6:23 pm : link
I know he's not just the greatest defensive player of all time, but the greatest player period! Then I watch this video & all I keep saying is "Holy Shit" over & over again. As was said above, that was his motor, no speeding up of the video! He was a one man wrecking crew, being double/triple teamed every play & it didn't matter. The absolute, indisputable greatest of all time!
I remember Jay Schroeder  
DonnieD89 : 5/25/2015 6:27 pm : link
just folding like a lawn chair in the 1986 NFC Championship. I kind of felt sorry for the guy.
RE: He wasn't an island.  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/25/2015 6:28 pm : link
In comment 12299975 Blackbeard said:
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There were a lot of very good players on The Giants in those days. Team, Team, Team!


While that's true don't think for a second he wasn't the best player by a lot every game he played
Taylor  
BleedBlue76 : 5/25/2015 6:30 pm : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ePLg6eTqpZ0
I just went on a YouTube 30 min spiral  
John in No Cal : 5/25/2015 6:41 pm : link
of LT highlights. I found a clip in a Redskin game where they triple teamed him. Clearly deliberate triple team. I will concede that someone is better than LT when I see a triple team.
I was also fortunate enough...  
EricJ : 5/25/2015 6:46 pm : link
to watch his entire career. I also had another interesting perspective. My seats were right behind the visitor bench. I could hear everything the opposing team was saying because the bench in the old stadium was a lot closer to row 1 than in the new stadium.

Basically, the other teams were arguing about what they were going to do about stopping LT. Then, when that was not enough, we were taunting the opposing QBs telling them that when they go back into the game that LT was literally going to rip their heads off. You should have seen the scared looks we got in return. They really thought it was a possibility.
great video!  
Del Shofner : 5/25/2015 6:49 pm : link
There would be some penalties called for some of what he did, but he could have adjusted his style a little and the outcomes would have been the same from a football perspective. Basically one blocker had no chance of stopping him and two blockers had only some chance of stopping him, but not much.
Amazingly, he may have been at his best his first year...1981  
dannysection 313 : 5/25/2015 6:57 pm : link
In part because other teams didn't have any idea how to block him.

I was at the game when they beat the Cowboys in OT to get into the play-offs for the first time in my Giant fan life. In fact, my father, who had season tix starting at the Polo Grounds, took my brother and me to SF for the game against the 49'ers, after the Giants had upset the Eagles.

Man, was he fun to watch that year.... and in subsequent years, of course.
RE: RE: He wasn't an island.  
PatersonPlank : 5/25/2015 7:14 pm : link
In comment 12299991 smshmth8690 said:
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In comment 12299975 Blackbeard said:


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There were a lot of very good players on The Giants in those days. Team, Team, Team!



You are absolutely right, and all of them benefited from the double, and triple coverage that LT had thrown at him.
But that's not news to anyone, all of us old guys saw it.


Yep, Leonard Marshall should thank LT every day. Playing DE in front of LT made his career.
Remember when we had Linebackers that made plays?  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 5/25/2015 7:20 pm : link
Unreal.
Lawrence Taylor was literally THE reason I became a football fan..  
arcarsenal : 5/25/2015 7:32 pm : link
..and a Giants fan.

My youngest football memories are him just dominating and playing at a different speed than everyone else. He was immediately my favorite player and the Giants were my team from there on out.
Back when there were GIANTS in New York.  
Red Dog : 5/25/2015 7:43 pm : link
Screw today's volleyball offense, watching great defense is a lot more fun.

Maybe that's why I don't watch anywhere near as much football any more.
At about the 1:11 mark  
Mike in Philly : 5/25/2015 7:46 pm : link
is that Archie Manning LT is tossing into the end zone? I can't quite make out the name.
half those hits are penalties today  
SHO'NUFF : 5/25/2015 7:48 pm : link
face mask, horse collar, illegal hit to the head, bad language, making a grown man cry, etc...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/25/2015 7:51 pm : link
none of us will ever see  
Mike B from JC : 5/25/2015 8:03 pm : link
Another like him.I personally think he was the best defensive player ever. The speed, the power,pure athletic ability. Once in a lifetime lb/de
Watching this...man we talk about being 'soft'  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 5/25/2015 8:05 pm : link
Taylor makes us look like a bunch of pussies.
The best defensive player I ever saw...  
bw in dc : 5/25/2015 8:23 pm : link
His first five years were just mind boggling. The speed, quickness, relentlessness, desire, and instincts just shock you.

But LT is such a tragic, despicable figure off the field, it really dampens my view of his on the field genius.

I didn't expect he'd be Roger Staubach, but at least someone who you could admire to some degree. Instead, there is nothing to admire...
how many penalties would have been called on LT in today's  
gtt350 : 5/25/2015 8:51 pm : link
pussified game? Anything close to the head and oh you hit the QB too hard
Great post Eric. And Thanks  
Earl the goat : 5/25/2015 9:22 pm : link
I remember in his first couple of years Parcells used him on special teams as the gunner on punts.
Thank you  
bluepepper : 5/25/2015 9:38 pm : link
Bum Phillips!
Great memories yet  
Giants2012 : 5/25/2015 9:42 pm : link
feel that group should have won one more Super Bowl.

Giants2012  
bluepepper : 5/25/2015 9:50 pm : link
I don't think they necessarily should have won another ring but they should have been a regular playoff team from '84 thru '93. Instead missed several years. A surprising amount of under-performing years for a team that was good enough to win 2 Lombardis.
That's one of the best LT videos I've seen  
mfsd : 5/25/2015 9:55 pm : link
unreal...he was so much faster and stronger than anyone else on the field
BLUE  
Giants2012 : 5/25/2015 9:56 pm : link
Not sure about after 1990 but the 87, 88 and 89 teams didn't reach their full potential IMO.

The 91 Eagles were really good and the Cowboys became even better by '93 IMO.

RE: He wasn't an island.  
Strip-Sack : 5/25/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12299975 Blackbeard said:
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There were a lot of very good players on The Giants in those days. Team, Team, Team!


And the award for most bizarre reaction to an LT thread goes to...
Great  
mrvax : 5/26/2015 5:55 am : link
video.
Most dominating team sport player I have seen in my lifetime...  
Tony in Tampa : 5/26/2015 8:31 am : link
What's not shown in the video is that you could't run the ball away from him either. I remember teams trying to run the ball to the right and thinking they didn't have to block the backside only to see LT flying down the line of scrimmage to tackle the RB across the field...amazing.
Watching that video  
Randy in CT : 5/26/2015 8:54 am : link
and then seeing some negative comments from "fans" here is abysmal.

That was otherworldly play that you won't see again. End of story.
The BEST. EVER. Case Closed. And notice, never a cheap shot  
Victor in CT : 5/26/2015 8:56 am : link
or blow to the head. All clean, hard, knock the snot out of you hits. Relentless.
LT in his prime  
Les in TO : 5/26/2015 9:14 am : link
was a force of nature.

can you imagine if the stars aligned and the giants had reggie white on the other side as was almost the case?

they would have been in their primes in the pre-free agency period too, so would have had maybe 10 years of sheer horror for opposing offenses. you would need to run a jumbo package every play just to keep your QB/RB out of the hospital.
Those plays were all sacks  
gmenrule : 5/26/2015 9:37 am : link
No videos there of him running down running backs from behind
or playing with a separated shoulder and making a game saving interception. He also played on a broken ankle. The man's pain tolerance was incredible. Today's players sit out for a stubbed toe. There will NEVER be another LT.
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arcarsenal : 5/26/2015 9:41 am : link
It has been alluded to already but it's really incredible how much the game has changed. He would have been called for taunting penalties on about 75% of those sacks, he also would have been called for blows to the head, unnecessary roughness, etc..

The glory days of football have long gone.
I don't even think I say this with bias  
Matt M. : 5/26/2015 10:01 am : link
He was the greatest defensive player of all time. not before and not after has there been such a combination of speed, strength, quickness, and athletic ability. Plus, his football instincts were off the charts. He was the most dominating force I've ever witnessed on the football field. It didn't matter where he lined up (weak side, strong side, inside, 2 pt. stance, 3 pt stance) or if he engaged an OL, TE, RB, double team of any combination. He always looked like he was shot out of a cannon and was able to toss any of them aside like rag dolls. He was truly a dynamic and incredible player. Plus, for someone who seemed so disinterested in practice, etc. he really knew the game, the playbook, and was an intensely competitive player.
RE: Those plays were all sacks  
Victor in CT : 5/26/2015 10:02 am : link
In comment 12300372 gmenrule said:
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No videos there of him running down running backs from behind
or playing with a separated shoulder and making a game saving interception. He also played on a broken ankle. The man's pain tolerance was incredible. Today's players sit out for a stubbed toe. There will NEVER be another LT.


Yes there were. Watch it again
RE: ...  
fbdad : 5/26/2015 10:02 am : link
In comment 12299966 Eric from BBI said:
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Just NEVER gets old!

I love the panic in the body language of the QB's that see him coming.
A couple of things stick out at me  
Matt M. : 5/26/2015 10:11 am : link
1) He was so good you expected him to make a play every down

2) The highlight reels don't even do him justice. they are just about all QB hits. But, early in his career, he was excellent in coverage and you couldn't run at him or away from him. He routinely ran down RBs on the other end of the field or down the LOS.
You had to be there in the beginning....  
Doomster : 5/26/2015 11:06 am : link
In 1980, we finished 4-12...the defense gave up 425 points.....it didn't look any better for 1981....17 straight years not making the playoffs...

Until the Saints drafted George Rodgers....and LT fell into our lap.....we knew he was good...just didn't know how good....

To see the speed and power he had that rookie season, was unreal.....no one had ever come into the league and had an impact on a defense like that....the defense gave up 168 less points that year....we had a winning record, and made the playoffs.....as a Giant fan, you had to be there to see it, and believe it....after all the years of frustrations, the Giants had finally turned the corner....
Can't forget LT Greatest Game Performance Ever  
geelabee : 5/26/2015 11:16 am : link
Highlights from the 1988 Game Against the Saints Where he Played With One Arm after He Separated His Shoulder
LT-1988 vs Saints (Greatest Individual Game Performance of Alltime) - ( New Window )
Best Player I've Ever Seen...  
Rong5611 : 5/26/2015 4:10 pm : link
It's all been said. When he was in his prime there was no player, not just defensive player, no player better in the NFL.

Guys this good are one in a million. There will never be another LT.
LT is a flawed human being  
djm : 5/26/2015 4:31 pm : link
a tortured soul. He makes mistakes. He drinks...and acts like an idiot.

But this isn't about that nor should it be really. You want morals look elsewhere. LT was a joy to watch...he played the game with a ferocity and speed that no one will match.

The Giants as a franchise have conducted themselves as well or better than any other NFL franchise. They aren't perfect and some of their players weren't perfect human beings, to say the least. But the Giants don't owe any explanations. And ANY team going gladly employs LT for the duration.

So just be happy the best defensive player ever played for big blue...that's my take. Part of what made LT who he is was on the field is also his biggest detriment off the field.

I feel blessed to have seen this guy play in every game and I am not gonna sit here and lament that the Giants didn't win enough super bowls. They won 2...and one of them was by inches. Shut up and take it.
for every "wasted 1989"  
djm : 5/26/2015 4:34 pm : link
we can hang our hats on 1990.

The reason the Giants failed in 1989 isn't as much as what they did on Sunday but the players they lost to injury that season. Mainly, Mark Bavaro. If he's healthy the Giants are playing the Niners for the NFC title in my view.

And don't act like the Giants just walked into the stick and beat arguably the best team of the modern era. That would have taken a herculean effort and then some. The 90 niners were good, but not 89 good.

Great vids...these are new. I never saw some of those clips of LT going nuts on the sidelines.
LT and Reggie White  
xtian : 5/26/2015 7:47 pm : link
when the USFL shutdown, George Young choose OT Zimmerman who turned out to be a great tackle, but he had already let it be known he didnt want to play in NY, so he got traded for 2 #2 picks to Denver. Parcells was begging Young to draft Reggie White. He should have listened! Can you imagine? Kills me every time I thing about it. We probably would have 3-peated! Reggie White was in the same class as LT.
LT Question  
mrvax : 5/26/2015 8:20 pm : link
LT finished with 132.5 sacks credited. The NFL did not track them during LT's rookie season in 1981. Did anyone ever go back and figure what that number was based on films?

RE: LT Question  
Victor in CT : 5/27/2015 3:17 pm : link
In comment 12301273 mrvax said:
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LT finished with 132.5 sacks credited. The NFL did not track them during LT's rookie season in 1981. Did anyone ever go back and figure what that number was based on films?


He had 9.5 unofficial sacks in 1981.
LT wikipedia - ( New Window )
RE: for every  
Dan in the Springs : 5/27/2015 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12301095 djm said:
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The 90 niners were good, but not 89 good.


Is that right? The 90 niners were outstanding. IIRC many thought this was their best year of the three. They had two inexplicable losses - to the lowly Rams and to the Saints. Clearly they were caught off guard those two games. It's true that their 14-2 record included some really, really close games. The Redskins had no answer for them in the playoffs when the niners were able to win by 18.

That 90 niners defense was really underrated. Ten of their 18 games played they held their opponents under 14 points.

I think the 89 team was outstanding, no questions about it. The most impressive thing about that team was how they were playing at the end of the year, including shutting out Chicago in a blowout victory at the end and then steamrolling through the playoffs, winning by 28, 27 and 45 points.

Just the same it is not clear that the difference between the 89 and 90 team was so great either way that the Giants couldn't have had a good shot against them in 89, imo.
90 niners struggled to run the bakk  
djm : 5/27/2015 8:10 pm : link
Especially against the Giants. 89 niners were disgustingly good while the 90 niners had one fatal flaw that Erik Howard so wonderfully exposed in the last minutes of the 90 NFC title game.
Agreed that the niners d was fantastic  
djm : 5/27/2015 8:16 pm : link
89 and 90. 90 team was great but I feel like that 89 team was historically great.
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