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NFT: New York Rangers @ Tampa Bay Lightning, Game 6, 8pm

arcarsenal : 5/26/2015 8:38 am
Sorry, 'Nak.. but this isn't the place to play roulette.

Whoever jumped off the wagon and quit already, stay off. This is a difficult spot to be in but hardly an impossible one. The entire perception of the series changes if we win this one game and get back to MSG for a Game 7.

That's it. One game. Take it one shift at a fucking time. It's not impossible and it's not something this team can't do. Tampa doesn't want anything to do with coming back to NY. They've basically said as much. They know.

We can do this. Let's fuckin' go.
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Losing faith seems to work for me during these playoffs  
Giants2012 : 5/27/2015 8:58 am : link
while confidence has resulted in a loss everytime.

Kinda confused for Game 7.
Watched parts of the game again late last night  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 9:23 am : link
That third period was probably their best period of the playoffs, IMO. They REALLY took it to the Bolts early and often. Before they started to go into a shell to protect the lead, the shots were 14-3 Rangers and that was only halfway through. Really wish they would play like that more often.

Game 7 at MSG. Henrik Lundqvist. I think I know how this script goes. To paraphrase Mariano Duncan....we play Friday, we win Friday. Dassit.
Well that's the thing  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:26 am : link
we have a resilient, tough team. But so do they. We've punched them in the mouth 3 times this series, and the prior two times they came back on the road and punched us in the mouth pretty good. They showed a lot of fortitude coming back a few times in that Detroit series too.

And for some strange reason, despite a regular season well under .500 on the road this year and a bunch of 23 and 24 year olds, they've been outstanding away from Amalie this postseason to the tune of 6-3. They are 4-1 at MSG this year.

This isnt the Caps coming in here with history against them.



As long as the boys get together for a fuckin' movie Thursday night though all will be good.
they didn't play all that well in that Detroit game 7, though  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 9:32 am : link
And they weren't facing Henrik Lundqvist. I don't care how much success they've had against him this season - Game 7 in the Garden is a different beast.
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arcarsenal : 5/27/2015 9:35 am : link
Between Bishop floundering last night (injury related or not) and the way Cooper sounded in that post game, I sure as hell wouldn't be confident going into this game if I were a Bolts fan.

There's a lot more experience on our side.

I truly believe if Tampa was going to get us out, they had to do it last night.
Bishop really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 9:41 am : link
hasn't played that great. The guy gives up rebounds continually. Holtby was much stronger in goal. The difference is that TB's offense is a lot better than WASH's.
Hope you're right  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:43 am : link
but my pessimistic approach has worked thus far and i'm not changing it now. You go with what got you here.


Hank with the Broadway hat last night by the way - would have given it to Brass Ball personally, but whatevs. Nashty referred to 'it working last time' though (Hank got the Hat game 6 in Washington) - so maybe the boys are a little 'stitious' too

TB  
Fish : 5/27/2015 9:44 am : link
hung Bishop out to dry. Rangers were swarming and TB did nothing about it. Bishop had big saves and Rangers kept coming. Killorn flying into Bishop did not help either.
agreed, arc  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 9:45 am : link
Last night was their moment and they didn't get the job done.

BTW it was so nice to see Miller finally get one. He's been so close so many times, and he had one helluva game last night.
Yeah I figured Bishop was hurt last night  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:46 am : link
but looking at the replays today, that's the best period of hockey this offense has played in the postseason probably since Game 1 of the Flyers series last year when Emery had no chance back there.

We played great in game 1 too though and the last 10 minutes of game 4... and nothing carried over. Have to correct that and take away their hope early on Friday.
I think the biggest key  
Matt M. : 5/27/2015 9:46 am : link
will be putting continued pressure on Bishop. that is not limited to first shots, but getting guys in front to capitalized on the rebounds. Prior to this series, he was pretty good at avoiding tons of rebounds both with his glove work and his stick handling. He hasn't killed the Rangers this series.

The games they lost they did so from a lack of discipline at both ends of the ice. Their D has been porous for long stretches, leaving Hank out to dry. But, their offense has also missed golden opportunities. They have had some excellent chances where they were either habitually wide or did not take advantage of big rebounds. The games they won, these have not been the issue. If they play a sound game on D and play aggressively on O, they should win.
I assume Islander fans are rooting for the Rangers this series.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 9:48 am : link
This could be the only chance they have of keeping their 19 series straight record since the Lightning will win at least the next four Cups. Probably eight or nine.
I thought about game 4 versus last night  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 9:53 am : link
And while they scored a bunch in that third period too, the way they did it was different. They got the puck in the net but they weren't dominating the ice. Last night's third period was complete domination. They were beating the Bolts to loose pucks, they were winning the battles on the boards, they were coming at the net in waves. I don't know that they'll play as well as that again, but it was encouraging to see since it's been a while since the last time they played that way.
good one, Brett! Didnt seem forced or anything!!  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:54 am : link

Greg  
Matt M. : 5/27/2015 9:57 am : link
While not as a dominating a score, I thought they played that way in Game 1 as well.
No shot  
Fish : 5/27/2015 9:59 am : link
Brettsky
RE: good one, Brett! Didnt seem forced or anything!!  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 9:59 am : link
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Almost as bad as betting against your own team...
I suppose game 2 started OK though  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 9:59 am : link
but guys kept tripping over their own skates.

With two days off can we pretty please make sure the ice is in decent shape on Friday, MSG!? Apparently a concert thursday night (?) makes me a little nervous when it comes to Friday ice conditions. I know they've done it a thousand times... but we've all seen games in recent years at MSG where for some reason the ice has sucked.
RE: RE: good one, Brett! Didnt seem forced or anything!!  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 10:01 am : link
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Almost as bad as betting against your own team...



Fuck that - we win and I'm ecstatic (oh and i made $2000 on profit on my tickets Friday), *and* i have significant profit on SCF games 1 and 2

We lose and its miserable - but i've got a free vacation at least

As a Finance guy i thought you knew about the concept of 'hedging' Companies do it all the time - I'm locking in the value of my tickets, son.
Hedging's for pussies.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 10:05 am : link
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Ugh, I wish Anak's thread stuck around. Arc just saved your season.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/27/2015 10:15 am : link
Nice win fellas. You asserted yourselves in the 3rd period so well that I don't think Tampa's A Game could have provided a meaningful counter. Well done.
Staal has to step up his game...  
mvftw : 5/27/2015 10:28 am : link
He's -7. It seems that he's on the ice for most of the goals against. Rarely takes the body...
RE: Hedging's for pussies.  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 10:40 am : link
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You would have fit in quite nicely at Long Term Capital. Too bad you were still in the womb back then.
RE: Staal has to step up his game...  
mfsd : 5/27/2015 10:42 am : link
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He's -7. It seems that he's on the ice for most of the goals against. Rarely takes the body...


Yeah Staal has had a weird series. All of our D-men have been made to look bad at some point - credit where due, these young fucks on TB are pretty good at hockey...but man, Staal hasn't been himself
RE: Staal has to step up his game...  
Giants2012 : 5/27/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12302176 mvftw said:
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He's -7. It seems that he's on the ice for most of the goals against. Rarely takes the body...


I've been him for years regarding his lack of physical play. (although some seem to think he's physical like Beck).
RE: RE: Hedging's for pussies.  
Giants2012 : 5/27/2015 10:46 am : link
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You would have fit in quite nicely at Long Term Capital. Too bad you were still in the womb back then.


LTCM - When Genius Failed.

The roof was lined with armed Soldiers when that went down. Tom Deegan? I think he made out well.
RE: RE: Hedging's for pussies.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 10:48 am : link
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You would have fit in quite nicely at Long Term Capital. Too bad you were still in the womb back then.


IIRC, they did hedge - but the hedges didn't work fast enough and leverage blew them up.

I don't use leverage and am pretty much always right.
thanks for utterly ruining an awesome thread, guys  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 10:59 am : link
with a bunch of bloviating about the excruciatingly dull subject of finance. Job well done.
RE: thanks for utterly ruining an awesome thread, guys  
Giants2012 : 5/27/2015 11:00 am : link
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with a bunch of bloviating about the excruciatingly dull subject of finance. Job well done.


lol - sry.

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BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 11:01 am : link
I'm actually well on my way to the poor house. I bought a ticket for a show on May 29th when we were down 3-1 to the Caps, thinking we were unlikely to win that series, and even if we did the next one would be unlikely to go seven and/or land on that night.

So I had to take a $7 loss on the sale thanks to StubHub's rapeage.
RE: thanks for utterly ruining an awesome thread, guys  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 11:01 am : link
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with a bunch of bloviating about the excruciatingly dull subject of finance. Job well done.


No problem, anytime.
We need our top 3 defensemen to play their 'A' game Friday night  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 11:02 am : link
Staal and Girardi are having issues dealing with the lightning speed. Mac has been inconsistent and a turnover machine at the worst times. The defense has been porous since Game 1 in this series. It's time for our best defenders to show up.
RE: .....  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 11:06 am : link
In comment 12302243 BrettNYG10 said:
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I'm actually well on my way to the poor house. I bought a ticket for a show on May 29th when we were down 3-1 to the Caps, thinking we were unlikely to win that series, and even if we did the next one would be unlikely to go seven and/or land on that night.

So I had to take a $7 loss on the sale thanks to StubHub's rapeage.



Dont get me started on stubhub. They've made tens of thousands off me the last several years - so what did they do this February to me and countless others who have not given them a single fraud or even minor issue in years? They raised prices by 5-10% and instituted a ridiculous 20% charge if you happen to sell your tickets on two sites near the same time or otherwise can't deliver for whatever reason.

They take 30% of the sales price on every transaction - no matter if the seller is trusted with proven track record or not. Even banks and airlines offer preferred pricing and service -- but these assholes dont.

Unfortunately, I dont like ticketsnow either so I'm kind of stuck.
This was my first time using it as a seller.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 11:08 am : link
It's brutal. But like you said, there's no real alternative.
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arcarsenal : 5/27/2015 11:08 am : link
Get in price on StubHub for Friday night right now is about $800.
Nash was a beast last night  
djm : 5/27/2015 11:27 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: good one, Brett! Didnt seem forced or anything!!  
Sonic Youth : 5/27/2015 11:36 am : link
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Almost as bad as betting against your own team...




Fuck that - we win and I'm ecstatic (oh and i made $2000 on profit on my tickets Friday), *and* i have significant profit on SCF games 1 and 2

We lose and its miserable - but i've got a free vacation at least

As a Finance guy i thought you knew about the concept of 'hedging' Companies do it all the time - I'm locking in the value of my tickets, son.

Series 7 option box flashbacks.
RE: Watched parts of the game again late last night  
figgy2989 : 5/27/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12302052 Greg from LI said:
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That third period was probably their best period of the playoffs, IMO. They REALLY took it to the Bolts early and often. Before they started to go into a shell to protect the lead, the shots were 14-3 Rangers and that was only halfway through. Really wish they would play like that more often.

Game 7 at MSG. Henrik Lundqvist. I think I know how this script goes. To paraphrase Mariano Duncan....we play Friday, we win Friday. Dassit.


Well said Greg! That is what is frustrating about this team, you watch the 3rd period and you say why can't they play like that all the time.
Concerning Hank...  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 12:33 pm : link
He was money early last night. His saves on Stamkos, Boyle and a couple others were fantastic and timely. Overall he had a strong night.

That said he got handcuffed on the glove side by a Kucherov wrister that he normally stops. He looked bad on the Callahan break away, perhaps anticipating a move based on their familiarity and got frozen. The point being I still don't think we've gotten his best game in this series.

That bodes well for Friday night. I think he brings his A++ game in Game 7 of the ECF.
RE: Ugh, I wish Anak's thread stuck around. Arc just saved your season.  
Anakim : 5/27/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12302143 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Nice win fellas. You asserted yourselves in the 3rd period so well that I don't think Tampa's A Game could have provided a meaningful counter. Well done.


Hardy har har. Yeah, I don't think the butterfly effect deals with internet threads
I thought the butterfly effect was a go down on your gf move  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 12:43 pm : link
my bad....
Supposedly Tampa has a bunch of guys sick  
Greg from LI : 5/27/2015 4:10 pm : link
Good - I hope they feel like they're at death's door on Friday.
RE: Supposedly Tampa has a bunch of guys sick  
figgy2989 : 5/27/2015 4:13 pm : link
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Good - I hope they feel like they're at death's door on Friday.


You know what they say about excuses...
who knows about the sick stuff  
MetsAreBack : 5/27/2015 4:30 pm : link
1) they looked totally fine for two periods last night

2) Cooper's been playing games all series (which he has every right to). Including removing Brian Boyle's pads from the locker room before game 2 and then dressing him that night.


But hey did Cooper let you know they're only in "year 2" of this thing and every loss is a learning tool?

I do honestly think this team will eventually be a powerhouse, but I did read today that Stammer is an unrestricted free agent in 2 years. While Tampa can afford to keep him you never know if a Canadian will choose to stick around in a non-hockey market (and spare me the Tampa fans are quality crap... its all relative, they cant compete with the passion up north). Toronto and Montreal will back up the Brinx for this guy.
RE: who knows about the sick stuff  
Mad Mike : 5/27/2015 4:39 pm : link
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I did read today that Stammer is an unrestricted free agent in 2 years.

He's an unrestricted free agent next summer.
Hartford got swept by the Kings' affiliate.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 9:16 pm : link
Doomed.
I'm going Friday night.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/27/2015 9:24 pm : link
I'm 1-0 in game 7's this year.
The Hawks doing their best to force a Game 7.  
arcarsenal : 5/27/2015 9:35 pm : link
Keith just faked out the entire Ducks team and swung it over to Hossa for a goal not long after Saad put one past.

Still think I'd rather play Chicago if we were to advance but at the very least, it's in our best interest for this series to go 7.
The Hawks aren't messing around tonight.  
arcarsenal : 5/27/2015 9:38 pm : link
3-0. Kane is nuts.
RE: I'm going Friday night.  
baadbill : 5/27/2015 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12303462 BrettNYG10 said:
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I'm 1-0 in game 7's this year.


I'm jealous as shit. Will you be posting from the game?
Just do us proud!

I can't fucking wait for Friday night!!!!!!!!!!
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