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Randy Moss is a good dude

Moondawg : 5/26/2015 10:30 am
Didn't see this posted. Will delete if Eddie Murphy.

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Randy Moss first formed a bond with Kassi Spier in 1998, back when he was a rookie wide receiver with the Minnesota Vikings and she was a 2-year-old fan attending an autograph session at the team’s training camp.

“He just fell in love with me because I just yelled, ‘Randy,’ ” Spier told the Pioneer-Press years later.

Two years after their first encounter, Spier was diagnosed with leukemia and in 2004, her father died in a car accident. In 2013, Spier was diagnosed with a brain tumor.

Through it all, Moss kept up with his young fan and on Friday, he surprised her at her high school graduation ceremony by handing her the diploma.

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I'll take this story  
Big Blue '56 : 5/26/2015 10:36 am : link
over a Ray McDonald one 365/24/7
He's a weird dude...  
Dunedin81 : 5/26/2015 10:40 am : link
he's been accused of DV but no charges were ever filed. He clearly had an issue with weed. But there are a lot of these under the radar stories about him along with charity that he does without mugging for the camera.
Not to mention  
JOrthman : 5/26/2015 10:54 am : link
running over that parking attendant.
JOrthman  
Moondawg : 5/26/2015 10:57 am : link
he bumped into her very gently. I remember the case. And I'm not trying to be an apologist. Never liked the guy, really, but I appreciate that he seems to try to do good works under the radar. He apparently tells kids groups that he will come as long as there's no media.
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Dunedin81 : 5/26/2015 11:00 am : link
In comment 12300511 Moondawg said:
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he bumped into her very gently. I remember the case. And I'm not trying to be an apologist. Never liked the guy, really, but I appreciate that he seems to try to do good works under the radar. He apparently tells kids groups that he will come as long as there's no media.


He settled for six figures, apparently, so I'm not sure he "barely bumped into her."
"Rand University"  
ColHowPepper : 5/26/2015 11:19 am : link
in the ESPN 30 for 30 series chronicled the life and times of Moss growing up hardscrabble and fatherless in rural WVa, his stellar HS career as a three/four-sport super stud, and his numerous arrests and jailings for weed and an assault on his g/f, if I remember it correctly. It was a pretty forthright, unflinching treatment, but on balance and in the end, very sympathetic and positive about the guy, his struggles, how he could be a jerk, and what he overcame. The story Moondawg notes in the OP is another mark in that direction.
I feel like we're always quick to label athletes as good or bad  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/26/2015 12:25 pm : link
Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.
RE: He's a weird dude...  
data_stata : 5/26/2015 1:13 pm : link
In comment 12300492 Dunedin81 said:
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he's been accused of DV but no charges were ever filed. He clearly had an issue with weed. But there are a lot of these under the radar stories about him along with charity that he does without mugging for the camera.


He has an issue with weed? Give me a break on that one. Its basically decriminaluzed, most of the population thinks it shoukd be legal and kills about one billionth of those dead from alchol, prescription drugs, etc. Absurd to label him has having an issue with weed. A cup of soda is far worse.
great  
Les in TO : 5/26/2015 2:20 pm : link
story. I'm sure it meant a lot to that young woman, who has faced too much tragedy for someone her age.
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Dunedin81 : 5/26/2015 2:40 pm : link
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he's been accused of DV but no charges were ever filed. He clearly had an issue with weed. But there are a lot of these under the radar stories about him along with charity that he does without mugging for the camera.



He has an issue with weed? Give me a break on that one. Its basically decriminaluzed, most of the population thinks it shoukd be legal and kills about one billionth of those dead from alchol, prescription drugs, etc. Absurd to label him has having an issue with weed. A cup of soda is far worse.


Oh shut the fuck up. His issue with weed is that he wasn't able to avoid trouble with it from the law and his employer, not that he smoked it. Nobody here is a prude and nobody here is stupid.
I have always thought Moss was a smart guy  
SomeFan : 5/26/2015 3:44 pm : link
He has done some weird things, some if not all blown out of proportion by the crack media.
RE: I feel like we're always quick to label athletes as good or bad  
Blackbeard : 5/26/2015 5:41 pm : link
In comment 12300636 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.


Mike, just think what a dull world this would be if what you said weren't true.
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Sly Guy : 5/26/2015 6:19 pm : link
In comment 12300929 Dunedin81 said:
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Nobody here is a prude and nobody here is stupid.


You do understand this is BBI right? :)
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j_rud : 5/26/2015 6:42 pm : link
In comment 12300729 data_stata said:
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he's been accused of DV but no charges were ever filed. He clearly had an issue with weed. But there are a lot of these under the radar stories about him along with charity that he does without mugging for the camera.



He has an issue with weed? Give me a break on that one. Its basically decriminaluzed, most of the population thinks it shoukd be legal and kills about one billionth of those dead from alchol, prescription drugs, etc. Absurd to label him has having an issue with weed. A cup of soda is far worse.


The issue isn't marijuana itself, it's how he's used it in the past. His 30 for 30 reported that he'd get high before games in HS and he smoked when he knew he was going to be tested at Florida State, at one point leading to his incarceration back in West Virginia for violating the conditions of his parole. Weed isn't the issue here, his continued use despite knowing there would be negative ramifications on his career is the issue. That's not responsible use regardless of the substance in question. And that's coming from someone who supports full legalization.

Why does this point need to be explained over and over and over again?
Oh randy  
mirwin : 5/26/2015 9:44 pm : link




im sorry randy was a great receiver first ballot HOF
but there are some really strange photos of him on google i felt the need to share and what he did for that kid is actually really nice
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Moondawg : 5/27/2015 12:09 am : link
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he's been accused of DV but no charges were ever filed. He clearly had an issue with weed. But there are a lot of these under the radar stories about him along with charity that he does without mugging for the camera.



He has an issue with weed? Give me a break on that one. Its basically decriminaluzed, most of the population thinks it shoukd be legal and kills about one billionth of those dead from alchol, prescription drugs, etc. Absurd to label him has having an issue with weed. A cup of soda is far worse.



The issue isn't marijuana itself, it's how he's used it in the past. His 30 for 30 reported that he'd get high before games in HS and he smoked when he knew he was going to be tested at Florida State, at one point leading to his incarceration back in West Virginia for violating the conditions of his parole. Weed isn't the issue here, his continued use despite knowing there would be negative ramifications on his career is the issue. That's not responsible use regardless of the substance in question. And that's coming from someone who supports full legalization.

Why does this point need to be explained over and over and over again?


But it's just weed. Why do you people get so worked up over it?
RE: I feel like we're always quick to label athletes as good or bad  
Cam in MO : 5/27/2015 7:18 am : link
In comment 12300636 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.


So 99% of the human race is neither good or bad on balance?

Hokay.
Most of us are good  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 5/27/2015 9:39 am : link
But few of us are saints
RE: Most of us are good  
Moondawg : 5/27/2015 11:13 am : link
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But few of us are saints


Unfortunately, few of our saints are saints.
RE: RE: I feel like we're always quick to label athletes as good or bad  
Moondawg : 5/27/2015 11:21 am : link
In comment 12301948 Cam in MO said:
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Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.



So 99% of the human race is neither good or bad on balance?

Hokay.


Cam, I've always thought of you as an, um, okay guy.
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Cam in MO : 5/27/2015 11:25 am : link
In comment 12302271 Moondawg said:
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In comment 12300636 Mike in Long Beach said:


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Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.



So 99% of the human race is neither good or bad on balance?

Hokay.



Cam, I've always thought of you as an, um, okay guy.


Unfortunately for my fellow humans, my reference point for judging you is me.

You all are not necessarily wastes of good, breathable air.

There, I complimented you. It was difficult, but nothing worth doing is easy.



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Moondawg : 5/27/2015 12:52 pm : link
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Randy is a flawed person but not a bad one or a good one (probably like 99% of us).

Instead of making some overarching commentary on who he is as a human being, I'll just say this is pretty wonderful of him.



So 99% of the human race is neither good or bad on balance?

Hokay.



Cam, I've always thought of you as an, um, okay guy.



Unfortunately for my fellow humans, my reference point for judging you is me.

You all are not necessarily wastes of good, breathable air.

There, I complimented you. It was difficult, but nothing worth doing is easy.




Something done from love is beyond good and evil.
--A crazy German.
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