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Pego61 : 5/27/2015 12:07 am
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Swiss authorities began an extraordinary early-morning operation here Wednesday to arrest several top soccer officials and extradite them to the United States on federal corruption charges.

As leaders of FIFA, soccer’s global governing body, gathered for their annual meeting, Swiss law enforcement officials arrived unannounced at the Baur au Lac hotel, an elegant five-star property with views of the Alps and Lake Zurich. The arrests were made at the request of the United States Justice Department, which brought charges in the Eastern District of New York, based in Brooklyn, according to law enforcement officials.

Prosecutors planned to unseal an indictment soon against more than 10 officials, not all of whom are in Zurich, three law enforcement officials said. The charges include wire fraud, racketeering and money laundering.


Insane. Just days before the election of FIFA's president. What does this do to Blatter's candidacy. Who are the officials that were arrested? That info will probably leak out by morning.
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Don't forget the biggest bribe of all...  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 11:21 am : link
Giving the 2010 World Cup to South Africa even though they had no business getting it.
Terps..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:23 am : link
I think the Qatar bid was far more corrupt. They essentially gave Qatar the bid in return for millions from a shiekh.
Just got an alert that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:27 am : link
Blatter is going to also be arrested and charged.
More importantly  
Joey in VA : 5/27/2015 11:28 am : link
Who penned the best "FIFA makes (fill in the blank) look like" comparison?

AcidTest with...Blatter makes Darth Vader look like Snow White

Deej with...FIFA makes the IOC look like the NCAA.

FMiC with...They make the Olympics look like the cleanest organization in the world.

I vote for Acid, because the moment I read that post, I saw Darth Vader force choking all the dwarves at once.
RE: Just got an alert that..  
jv : 5/27/2015 11:29 am : link
In comment 12302278 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Blatter is going to also be arrested and charged.


Really? Wow that would be a gamechanger...

I saw the Swiss were likely to question him in their own investigation but hadn't seen anything about an arrest. Lorretta Lynch was refusing to comment on individuals during the press conference.
FatMan  
Tim in Capital City : 5/27/2015 11:30 am : link
Who from? Lynch was very non-committal about Blatter.
It came across..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:30 am : link
as a Yahoo alert on my phone, but I can't find anything right now to confirm it on the web.
Two Things  
Samiam : 5/27/2015 11:31 am : link
There are more countries in FIFA than there are in the UN.

Second, FIFA has a reserve fund of something like $1.5 billion.

Easy for Blatter to get reelected
corruption on a grand scale? i mean look at their conference room  
GMAN4LIFE : 5/27/2015 11:33 am : link
big evil room


Where is Blatter now?  
SwirlingEddie : 5/27/2015 11:35 am : link
Is he in Switzerland?
RE: It came across..  
Tim in Capital City : 5/27/2015 11:35 am : link
In comment 12302288 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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as a Yahoo alert on my phone, but I can't find anything right now to confirm it on the web.


Gotcha - I read that alert quickly and thought the same. It actually said "Sepp Blatter escapes charges, faces reelection..."
Tim..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:37 am : link
you might be right. I can't find anything on Yahoo to confirm it. The live report has nothing about an arrest. I thought it said "Blatter faces charges", but I might be wrong.
RE: The African representatives..  
kicker : 5/27/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12302209 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have been getting the most bribes. There are several African countries and Blatter figured out they can be had for relatively cheap.


Brilliant policy by Blatter.

Avoid the first world, and focus on countries where bribery is the norm, where it is simply the cost of doing business.

Read that by getting Africa as a whole, Blatter is halfway to being elected.
RE: Where is Blatter now?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12302293 SwirlingEddie said:
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Is he in Switzerland?


Probably in his secret volcano lair. That guy avoids US authorities like Roman Polansky. Jeremy Schaap from ESPN had a report on Outside the Lines on FIFA corruption. Sepp Blatter does not make trips to the US for this reason.
RE: It came across..  
Del Shofner : 5/27/2015 11:45 am : link
In comment 12302288 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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as a Yahoo alert on my phone, but I can't find anything right now to confirm it on the web.


The Swiss are conducting their own investigation which is still ongoing and includes Blatter. There are some interesting jurisdictional questions here. It may well be that, by agreement with the Swiss, the US DOJ will leave it up to the Swiss to go after Blatter.

I read that Blatter is scheduled to come to Canada shortly for the Women's World Cup which is about to start. The US has an extradition treaty with Canada. So another possibility is that the US is waiting on Blatter.
FMIC  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 11:55 am : link
South Africa was a bribe that helped get Qatar. I wouldn't call Qatar a bribe so much as I would a blatant robbery. Those people should have been dressed like the fucking Hamburglar.
This is the most positive press the US has gotten  
Nitro : 5/27/2015 11:57 am : link
in Europe since the Marshall Plan.
Sponsors staring to get some heat  
montanagiant : 5/27/2015 12:06 pm : link
Re-done logos regarding the Qatar World Cup:





I still don't think that 2022 tournament will be played in Qatar  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 12:15 pm : link
.
I can't fathom how Qatar can actually...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 12:23 pm : link
accommodate the logistics of the World Cup
They may not have to  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 12:47 pm : link
I didn't go to Brazil simply because I don't have the cash to justify the expense. Zombie Ed McMahon could show up at my door with a billion dollar check and I still wouldn't go to Qatar. Obviously the whole world isn't going to feel aa I do, but a significant enough chunk might.

I still think there is a better chance of it being in the US. We only need, what, 2 years notice to stage the event? 2020 is still a ways away.
If Blatter stays..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 1:19 pm : link
in charge, the World Cup will stay in Qatar. To do otherwise would mean he'd admit corruption or on the flip side, go back on his already received riches from oil barons, and there isn't a shot in hell he'd risk either.

If Blatter goes away, like he should, IMO, so does the Qatar bid.
Qatar getting the World Cup  
rsjem1979 : 5/27/2015 1:55 pm : link
It always seemed to me that obvious and brazen corruption like that could only be either an intentional attempt to get caught, or the act of a cartoonish cadre of supervillains.

They don't even have to pull the 2022 event out of there for another 6 years. The US could put this thing together with minimal notice.
RE: I can't fathom how Qatar can actually...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12302466 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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accommodate the logistics of the World Cup


You'd be surprised what you can do with slave labor.
I wonder what kind of construction quality  
jv : 5/27/2015 2:08 pm : link
you get with slave labor. On a scale of Sochi to K Hovnanian
As much as I'd like the U.S. to get 2022  
RB^2 : 5/27/2015 2:11 pm : link
I think it should go to Australia. They could probably pull it off as seamlessly as we could on short notice and they haven't had a WC yet.
Hahaha Harvey's face right there was priceless  
Eric on Li : 5/27/2015 2:15 pm : link
Thor is an animal. He has been more impressive than I ever expected in every way.
whoops wrong thread  
Eric on Li : 5/27/2015 2:16 pm : link
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Nowhere else you really post this  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 2:44 pm : link
The Europa League final is kicking off now between Sevilla and Dnipro. This tournament produces some good matches and finals in particular. If Sevilla wins Spain will have five UCL reps next year. La Liga was very strong this year through the top seven... In England Sevilla (5th in Liga) probably finished second or third. They are very strong.
RE: Nowhere else you really post this  
Del Shofner : 5/27/2015 2:50 pm : link
In comment 12302867 Go Terps said:
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The Europa League final is kicking off now between Sevilla and Dnipro. This tournament produces some good matches and finals in particular. If Sevilla wins Spain will have five UCL reps next year. La Liga was very strong this year through the top seven... In England Sevilla (5th in Liga) probably finished second or third. They are very strong.


I was in Sevilla last year when Barca was in town ... great treat to see that game. Sevilla went up but then Messi just took over. Good stuff.
RE: Nowhere else you really post this  
RB^2 : 5/27/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12302867 Go Terps said:
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The Europa League final is kicking off now between Sevilla and Dnipro. This tournament produces some good matches and finals in particular. If Sevilla wins Spain will have five UCL reps next year. La Liga was very strong this year through the top seven... In England Sevilla (5th in Liga) probably finished second or third. They are very strong.

How many of the 5 will get automatic berths into the group stages and how many would have to go through the play in round?
I wonder when the madness will end  
Deej : 5/27/2015 3:31 pm : link
on these rotating site international sporting events -- WC and Olympics. It's becoming increasingly clear that no democracy is going to tolerate billions in reimbursed spending for a few weeks of spotlight. The canary in the coal mine is the 2022 Winter Olympics -- Poland, Sweden, and Norway pulled out due to money and lack of support (Ukraine bailed due to war). So Almaty, Kazakhstan and Beijing are the only candidate cities. China you know about. Kazakhstan just re-elected its "president" to his 5th term, with 97.7% of the vote (ahem), and with a $225bn GDP seems like a vanity candidate.

So you do this in venues that already exist (WC a lot of places; Olympics probably a fixed site or few rotating fixed sites). Or you can make these events the playthings of oppressive regimes like Russia, China, and Qatar. And I think the reminder of the hundreds (or thousands) of workers who have or will die building the Qatar venues will render the later unpalatable to viewers, patrons, and most notably sponsors.
I believe three get automatic berths  
Go Terps : 5/27/2015 3:31 pm : link
Barca, Real, and Atletico. Valencia will have to play through. And if Sevilla can win today (they have their hands full 2-2 in a wild one approaching halftime) they would have to play through also.
RE: As much as I'd like the U.S. to get 2022  
montanagiant : 5/27/2015 5:28 pm : link
In comment 12302786 RB^2 said:
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I think it should go to Australia. They could probably pull it off as seamlessly as we could on short notice and they haven't had a WC yet.


Do it in Sydney and there is hardly any work needed since they just had the Olympics there in 2000
This is unbelievable  
montanagiant : 5/27/2015 5:36 pm : link
Question. If there is corruption to this scale, then is  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 5/27/2015 10:08 pm : link
there a governing body somewhere that can dissolve FIFA as an organization?
RE: Question. If there is corruption to this scale, then is  
Del Shofner : 5/27/2015 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12303520 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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there a governing body somewhere that can dissolve FIFA as an organization?


FIFA is organized under Swiss law so, in theory, the Swiss authorities could, but as I understand it, the applicable regulations are very old and never contemplated a situation like the current one. Better to get rid of all the bad guys and let the good guys take over FIFA - there are plenty of good guys, they've just had no say with Blatter in charge.
Not to be Mr. Murrica  
Joey in VA : 5/27/2015 10:46 pm : link
But how are we the only ones who gave a shit enough to go after these goons?
RE: Not to be Mr. Murrica  
Del Shofner : 5/27/2015 10:52 pm : link
In comment 12303543 Joey in VA said:
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But how are we the only ones who gave a shit enough to go after these goons?


We are powerful enough and have a legal system that's well suited for international prosecutions. The DOJ is using some of the anti-terror and racketeering provisions. Plus, to be fair, the Swiss are not only assisting us but running their own show - they just haven't indicted anyone yet. My theory is that it's the Swiss who will indict Blatter - one of their own.
The thing about FIFA  
Go Terps : 5/28/2015 8:43 am : link
While it's an unbelievably corrupt organization, they've actually done well with regards to taking care of the game. The quality of the game has never been better. They still have what is by many miles the best product in the world of sports.
RE: The thing about FIFA  
Dunedin81 : 5/28/2015 9:00 am : link
In comment 12303717 Go Terps said:
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While it's an unbelievably corrupt organization, they've actually done well with regards to taking care of the game. The quality of the game has never been better. They still have what is by many miles the best product in the world of sports.


Yeah but is that FIFA's fault or is that a product of various technological and geographic tendencies that helped make an already popular game that much more popular?
Blatter..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/28/2015 9:05 am : link
is actually a master promoter, but in doing that, he's also a master manipulator.

I think FIFA would still run quite smoothly in his absence, because the promotion that brought together most of the world is complete.

The only question is if regional corruption would run rampant. For instance, would African nations expect that they are entitled to kickbacks in return for votes? If not, where do they supplement that cash from? It might be moot, because I'm not sure if that cash ever finds itself with the football programs, but rather in the individual delegates pockets.
think Putin has a stake in this?  
jgambrosio : 5/28/2015 9:07 am : link
Putin accuses US of meddling into FIFA affairs
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I didn't mean popularity  
Go Terps : 5/28/2015 9:07 am : link
I meant the quality of the game itself. It's never been better. Popularity I don't really care about. The NFL has never been more popular, butt the game is as bad as it's been in my lifetime. Not so with soccer around the world. How much of that is due to FIFA is tough to determine, but at least they haven't screwed it up.
Putin..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/28/2015 9:10 am : link
loves to take the contrarian side with all things the US does. It is almost like he needs to have his opinion heard because he isn't part of the news.

RE: think Putin has a stake in this?  
rsjem1979 : 5/28/2015 9:56 am : link
In comment 12303754 jgambrosio said:
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Pertinent text  
rsjem1979 : 5/28/2015 9:58 am : link
"Despite the broad nature of the charges, the case itself arrived at the Justice Department as something of a surprise. The four-year F.B.I. investigation grew out of an unrelated inquiry into aspects of Russian organized crime by the Eurasian Joint Organized Crime Task Force"
Unbelievable that Blatter got elected again  
montanagiant : 5/29/2015 6:37 pm : link
I get the feeling this one won't last though
RE: Not to be Mr. Murrica  
jcn56 : 5/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
In comment 12303543 Joey in VA said:
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But how are we the only ones who gave a shit enough to go after these goons?


Collectively, we don't care enough about soccer. If it were as big as football here, I bet you don't see any of this.
RE: RE: Not to be Mr. Murrica  
montanagiant : 5/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12306753 jcn56 said:
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In comment 12303543 Joey in VA said:


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But how are we the only ones who gave a shit enough to go after these goons?



Collectively, we don't care enough about soccer. If it were as big as football here, I bet you don't see any of this.

Sadly i think your correct
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