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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:40 am
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 5s6 seconds ago

1st Giants OL alignment post-Beatty of OTAs:
LT Ereck Flowers, LG Justin Pugh, C Weston Richburg, RG John Jerry, RT Marshall Newhouse.
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No..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:42 am : link
Schwartz is the shocker there. Unless he's banged up.
Fatman  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:42 am : link
he's still recovering from surgery.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:43 am : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m2 minutes ago

Geoff Schwartz is here + working, but they'll likely take things cautiously with his ankle recovery. Wouldn't read much into it.
Then..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:43 am : link
that makes sense.
Schwartz being protected?  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 11:43 am : link
Is he rehabbing or limited still
Good info on Schwartz ...thx  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 11:44 am : link
...
Boom  
JonC : 5/27/2015 11:45 am : link
Make it stick, fellas.
I'd forgotten....  
Ryan : 5/27/2015 11:45 am : link
...his ankle injury included tendon damage - no surprise at the measure of caution.
Schwartz  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:46 am : link
suffered a very serious injury late in the year (after he came back).
I said it before, but  
RicFlair : 5/27/2015 11:46 am : link
Marshall Newhouse just has the name of a right tackle.
I would not be shocked if Flowers is playing LT  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2015 11:48 am : link
by december.
hopefully Newhouse can win the RT spot  
giants#1 : 5/27/2015 11:49 am : link
Flowers-Pugh-Richburg-Schwartz-Newhouse looks solid on paper.
I hope Newhouse surprises  
MadPlaid : 5/27/2015 11:49 am : link
At his last two stops, he didn't do too well.
Yikes.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/27/2015 11:49 am : link
.
Personally  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:50 am : link
I think it's great that they are already working Flowers and Pugh at LT/LG.
RE: I would not be shocked if Flowers is playing LT  
giants#1 : 5/27/2015 11:50 am : link
In comment 12302341 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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by december.


I wouldn't be shocked if he's playing LT by September. They are clearly giving him every chance to win the job, especially with Beatty out.

Getting ahead of ourselves here, but then where does Beatty go if/when he returns?
You can't count on Schwartz. He is always hurt.  
Victor in CT : 5/27/2015 11:50 am : link
Would love to get Jerry out of there, but who?
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armstead98 : 5/27/2015 11:50 am : link
Love it. I like that they're not screwing around and have put Pugh at LG. Clearly they decided that's his spot.

Also, Flowers at LT to start is a bit of a surprise. As some mentioned I thought he would have to work his way up the depth chart.
I like that a lot  
chris r : 5/27/2015 11:52 am : link
lets test the rookie at the spot that you think he'll end up at. Lets see Pugh in what I think will prove to be his best spot.

When Schwartz comes back let him, Jerry and Newhouse duke it out for the two right side positions.
I'd imagine this  
Randy in CT : 5/27/2015 11:52 am : link
is a work in progress. There could be several changes along that line-up.
the left side of the line  
antdog24 : 5/27/2015 11:52 am : link
is going to be sick if they stick with that.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:53 am : link
GiantsWFAN ‏@giantswfan 37s38 seconds ago

jerry and schwartz both getting guard reps
giants#1, Eric  
JonC : 5/27/2015 11:53 am : link
Yes sir, now is the time to be aggressive in installing, teaching, and getting ready for Sept. NOW.

Beatty is toast here if things go to plan, he'll be a cap casualty next Winter.
good, play the rook there from the start  
WeatherMan : 5/27/2015 11:53 am : link
it's his natural and long term position, with the injury this is the way to go. Also glad to see Pugh inside, if Newhouse can surprise and Schwartz gets healthy that gets John "I can't pick up a stunt to save my damn life" Jerry to the bench where he belongs.
RE: RE: I would not be shocked if Flowers is playing LT  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2015 11:54 am : link
In comment 12302351 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12302341 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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by december.



I wouldn't be shocked if he's playing LT by September. They are clearly giving him every chance to win the job, especially with Beatty out.

Getting ahead of ourselves here, but then where does Beatty go if/when he returns?


He doesn't really have a position other than LT. He's not the run-blocker you need for RT, or interior line.
Schwartz is not always injured....  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 11:54 am : link
the guy was a rock everywhere else he was. I believe the first time he missed a game with injury was last year.
Schwartz also played a bit of RT  
giants#1 : 5/27/2015 11:56 am : link
last season when Pugh got banged up. So it could be the best 2 out of Jerry/Schwartz/Newhouse take the field (assuming Flowers/Pugh don't struggle with their adjustments, respectively).
Not to get ahead of ourselves  
armstead98 : 5/27/2015 11:56 am : link
But what does this mean for Beatty if / when he returns? No way they move Flowers if he's halfway decent at LT mid-season. Can Beatty play RT? Would they keep him on the bench?
RE: RE: RE: I would not be shocked if Flowers is playing LT  
giants#1 : 5/27/2015 11:57 am : link
In comment 12302368 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He doesn't really have a position other than LT. He's not the run-blocker you need for RT, or interior line.


Hence the question. Though I'm also assuming Beatty is a better option than Jerry and/or Newhouse.
Big IF  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 11:58 am : link
but if this this plays out like this...

Left side and center set.

Right side probably will either be RG Jerry/RT Schwartz or RG Schwartz/RT Newhouse.
RE: Schwartz is not always injured....  
Victor in CT : 5/27/2015 11:59 am : link
In comment 12302369 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the guy was a rock everywhere else he was. I believe the first time he missed a game with injury was last year.


A rock? Since 2011 he has dressed for 0, 13, 16 and 2 games. And started only 9 (7 in 2013 and 2 in 2014). More like a pebble.
I hope  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 12:02 pm : link
the beat reporters tweet who is on the 2nd team OL.
I am surprised with Flowers at LT  
Matt M. : 5/27/2015 12:02 pm : link
But I like it. I am pleased they are sticking to a plan. I didn't think they seriously had Flowers in the plans as a LT. I hope this says otherwise and is not done simply because Beatty got hurt. If they had him in their long term plan as the LT, then Beatty probably played his last game as a Giant. Flowers just has to own the position now.

Newhouse is the wild card. If he plays well enough at RT and Flowers is at least a decent LT, the OL seems set. I love their conviction of keeping Pugh at LG. Now, if only Schwartz can get and stay healthy! If not, there are a few guys who will get a shot if Jerry picks up where he left off.

If Flowers is as hard a worker and talented as advertised, that could be a formidable left side for a few years with an anchor in the middle. It would really shift the way our offense has operated for several years, where the right side was the more dominant side for the better part of a decade.
Newhorse was terrible  
Lithium : 5/27/2015 12:03 pm : link
last year, Charlie Brown bad. I imagine people had similar hopes for Brown last year, until they watched his putrid play. If this guy is starting, then have the ambulance on stand-by.
Lithium  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 12:04 pm : link
Perhaps, but this line-up gives them greater flexibility with Schwartz, Bamiro, Cleary, or Donnelly at RT.
Center left is 2nd rd  
bradshaw44 : 5/27/2015 12:06 pm : link
1st rd, 1st rd. that's pretty nice. RG RT not so much.
insert perrenial polite optimism about  
idiotsavant : 5/27/2015 12:07 pm : link
some guy we never heard about until now, marshal newhouse, you're on the

Perennial Optimism Show!

''How does it feel to be starting on the New York Frigging Giants Big Guy!''

"aw, shucks, I always knew I had it in me, yo"
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RicFlair : 5/27/2015 12:09 pm : link
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 32s33 seconds ago East Rutherford, NJ

From left to right, Giants OL during this 11v11: Flowers, Pugh, Richburgh, Schwartz, Marshall Newhouse.
I know this is only temporary ...  
Floyd The Barber : 5/27/2015 12:09 pm : link
but that right side of the line is worse off than last year at its best ... anyone playing along side Jerry operates only at about 60% of there potential because he is a detriment to those he flanks ... Schwartz wont be ready for the beginning of the season, I have been saying this for a full year now ...

It made absolute sense to pull out of stop to get La'El, I knew this would happen, and now you have a baptism by fire by putting Flowers at LT ... 1 of 2 things can happen ... He can boom or become frustrated and demoralized ... sticking at Rookie at LT is a very tricky situation ...

I find it hilarious that Newhouse/Jerry are even on this team, what does that say about Mosely/Reyonlds/Herman ? these guys must absolutely suck ...

You also have to insert..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2015 12:09 pm : link
negativity from people who didn't see Newhouse play a down last year.

"The guy is dogshit and the worst player to ever have the luxury of putting on pads"!
Great News  
ZogZerg : 5/27/2015 12:12 pm : link
Glad to see they are throwing Flowers right in at LT. Let him get comfortable there. Top 10 pick should be able to start day 1 at LT.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 12:13 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 6m6 minutes ago

Geoff Schwartz for John Jerry at RG as team drills begin. #NYG
I'm basing comments on some live action,  
Lithium : 5/27/2015 12:14 pm : link
and the porous track record of taking chances on scrap heap lineman that other teams kick to the curb willingly.
RE: You also have to insert..  
Floyd The Barber : 5/27/2015 12:15 pm : link
In comment 12302415 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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negativity from people who didn't see Newhouse play a down last year.

"The guy is dogshit and the worst player to ever have the luxury of putting on pads"!


well you can certainly say nobody sustaining injury putting on there cleats and practice gear is a positive !
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2015 12:15 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 3m3 minutes ago

Second-team OL (left to right): Bamiro, Mosley, Reynolds, Hart, Emmett Cleary #GiantsOTA
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RicFlair : 5/27/2015 12:15 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 3m3 minutes ago

Second-team OL (left to right): Bamiro, Mosley, Reynolds, Hart, Emmett Cleary #GiantsOTA
RE: ...  
RicFlair : 5/27/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12302433 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 3m3 minutes ago

Second-team OL (left to right): Bamiro, Mosley, Reynolds, Hart, Emmett Cleary #GiantsOTA


BRO?!?!?
RE: RE: I would not be shocked if Flowers is playing LT  
OC2.0 : 5/27/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12302351 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12302341 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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by december.



I wouldn't be shocked if he's playing LT by September. They are clearly giving him every chance to win the job, especially with Beatty out.

Getting ahead of ourselves here, but then where does Beatty go if/when he returns?


Simple. The sidelines.
So at last early on day 1 the CFL kid hasn't cracked the top ten  
Torrag : 5/27/2015 12:18 pm : link
but it's early...
Floyd  
JonC : 5/27/2015 12:19 pm : link
Take your meds, stat.
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