The current roster offers little to nothing beyond Melo's talent.
His leadership? Take a look at how well Sump and Smith are playing on a LeBron lead team. They NEVER had or will have that with Melo.
The trade FAILED miserably...it's time to move on.
Where do they go from here? If that Lakers trade of a #2 and Randle for Melo is real..what the hell are they waiting for?!
If they can't pull that off (or something like it) they need to shop Melo to other teams.
One team who may be ripe right about now? The Hawks. Why? A few reasons.
1) For all of their complementary talent and great coaching, they don't have that one "Go To" scorer on the roster.
2) They won 60 regular season games this year, you know where the ranked in attendance? #17
Trade Melo to the Hawks for Schroeder, this year's 1st and next years 1st. Schroeder is an up and coming PG who plays great defense, can penetrate the lane and create.
Just one idea, I'd love to hear others. It's time for housecleaning and it starts with getting some value in return for Melo.
Miami: 1st, Deng, Birdman and Mcroberts
Charlotte: Zeller, Biyombo, Vonleh, Stephenson and 1st
Houston: Dmo, capela, nick johnson, NO 1st, and Ariza
Phoenix: Marcus Morris, Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, Goodwin, and 1st
Utah: Exum, Hood, Burke, and 1st for Melo, Jose, and THJR
Sacramento: 1st, Williams, Stuaskas and McCallum
Orlando: 1st, Harris, Frye, Harkless, and Nicholson
Unless you find any of these intriguing (and the Utah and Orlando ones make you think for second), theres no tremendous market for Melo.
Why tank in a year we don't have a pick? If we give up Melo we should wait a year.
and add in the fact that Melo has a np-trade clause.
Miami: 1st, Deng, Birdman and Mcroberts: NO
Charlotte: Zeller, Biyombo, Vonleh, Stephenson and 1st: NO
Houston: Dmo, capela, nick johnson, NO 1st, and Ariza: NO
Phoenix: Marcus Morris, Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, Goodwin, and 1st : NO
Utah: Exum, Hood, Burke, and 1st for Melo, Jose, and THJR: Interesting but still NO
Sacramento: 1st, Williams, Stuaskas and McCallum: NO
Orlando: 1st, Harris, Frye, Harkless, and Nicholson: NO
Unless you find any of these intriguing (and the Utah and Orlando ones make you think for second), theres no tremendous market for Melo.
Why tank in a year we don't have a pick? If we give up Melo we should wait a year.
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Washington: Nene, Porter, Wesbter and 1st
Miami: 1st, Deng, Birdman and Mcroberts
Charlotte: Zeller, Biyombo, Vonleh, Stephenson and 1st
Houston: Dmo, capela, nick johnson, NO 1st, and Ariza
Phoenix: Marcus Morris, Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, Goodwin, and 1st
Utah: Exum, Hood, Burke, and 1st for Melo, Jose, and THJR
Sacramento: 1st, Williams, Stuaskas and McCallum
Orlando: 1st, Harris, Frye, Harkless, and Nicholson
Unless you find any of these intriguing (and the Utah and Orlando ones make you think for second), theres no tremendous market for Melo.
Why tank in a year we don't have a pick? If we give up Melo we should wait a year.
and add in the fact that Melo has a np-trade clause.
And then do I subtract the fact that he has publicly said that he is willing to waive his no trade clause?
Not Charlotte and certainly not a George Karl reunion in Sacto.
Knick fans are just impossible to please. Melo has his flaws, but he is one of the most prolific scorers the league has seen in the past 20 years and a first ballot Hall of Famer. It doesn't matter though. He's not LeBron.
I could understand if at this time next year the Knicks have nothing to show for it and they are coming off another shit year and no draft pick....
There is actually reason for optimism...4th pick in a 4 player draft, 27 million in cap space....some good players are free agents, the east sucks and is wide open....
But this is a sore point with me and the fact that Ewing caught so much flack over the years is part of the reason why I think sports fans in general are fucking morons
That team was very good, they had 5 guys average double figures...Larry Johnson was still in his prime, Starks as the sixth man, still had Oakley and Ewing as the defensive back bone, that team could score and defend with the best of them...
They were probably the only team that could of beaten Jordan and the Bulls...
Draft Mudiay, sign Monroe, someone who can provide some sort of rim protection (Koufos is 25, looks the part), get a wing with the MLE (gerald green maybe).
Some of the guys on the roster last year could be decent backups. Shved, galloway, and calderon. Aldrich is pretty decent. Maybe flip TH for a backup 4. Could be a serviceable lineup for a year or two before better options become available.
The good thing about maxing Monroe is 1 he is 25, 2 he is the perfect fit for the triangle, 3 his max starts at 15 million...that leaves the Knicks with 12 million to add more players to this team....
you could get a Wes Matthes and Maybe Koufos as well...not sure what they are going to want, 1 coming off of injury the other was a back up in Memphis...
it is going to be interesting to see what Phil does with this team..
The good thing about maxing Monroe is 1 he is 25, 2 he is the perfect fit for the triangle, 3 his max starts at 15 million...that leaves the Knicks with 12 million to add more players to this team....
you could get a Wes Matthes and Maybe Koufos as well...not sure what they are going to want, 1 coming off of injury the other was a back up in Memphis...
it is going to be interesting to see what Phil does with this team..
Whenever Memphis games were nationally televised (which was rarely), all I ever heard about Koufos was that he was going to get a big contract this year. Memphis's defense was actually better when Koufos was out on the floor (albeit vs backups). But he played well in Denver. I could easily see him commanding $8-10 million.
I was assuming that after signing Monroe and Koufos (or whatever big we sign) and re-signing some of our current players, we would be over the cap. At that point, I think Gerlad Green could be a had for $3-5 million.
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no MLE for the Knicks they will be under the cap...they will have the 2.5 million exception....
The good thing about maxing Monroe is 1 he is 25, 2 he is the perfect fit for the triangle, 3 his max starts at 15 million...that leaves the Knicks with 12 million to add more players to this team....
you could get a Wes Matthes and Maybe Koufos as well...not sure what they are going to want, 1 coming off of injury the other was a back up in Memphis...
it is going to be interesting to see what Phil does with this team..
Whenever Memphis games were nationally televised (which was rarely), all I ever heard about Koufos was that he was going to get a big contract this year. Memphis's defense was actually better when Koufos was out on the floor (albeit vs backups). But he played well in Denver. I could easily see him commanding $8-10 million.
I was assuming that after signing Monroe and Koufos (or whatever big we sign) and re-signing some of our current players, we would be over the cap. At that point, I think Gerlad Green could be a had for $3-5 million.
Not how it works...you are given the exception July 8th(new year starts july 1st but cap is not set until the 8th) and if you are under on the 8th then that is the exception you get...
So Knicks could go over the cap but they will still have the 2.5 million exception....
Now that changes for a team over cap for example the Heat last year...they were over the cap on july 8th so at that point they were going to sign Mcroberts with the MLE but when Lebron signed with Cleveland they fell under the cap so they used cap sapce to sign him and had the 2.5 million exception...
Once you fall under the cap all you have is the 2.5 excpetion
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saw Adam Silver down on Worth st.
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That's basically the whole story. He was going into 141 Worth and I noticed his bald head and while I usually say something to famous people I couldn't think of anything worth saying lol
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In comment 12302890 DanMetroMan said:
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saw Adam Silver down on Worth st.
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That's basically the whole story. He was going into 141 Worth and I noticed his bald head and while I usually say something to famous people I couldn't think of anything worth saying lol
"Hey baldie, way to screw the Knicks you dickhead."
That's probably where I would have started.
Okayyyyyyyyyyy
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In comment 12302895 EricNY33 said:
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In comment 12302890 DanMetroMan said:
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saw Adam Silver down on Worth st.
And?
That's basically the whole story. He was going into 141 Worth and I noticed his bald head and while I usually say something to famous people I couldn't think of anything worth saying lol
"Hey baldie, way to screw the Knicks you dickhead."
That's probably where I would have started.
Jon is better at the whole storytelling thing.
That team was very good, they had 5 guys average double figures...Larry Johnson was still in his prime, Starks as the sixth man, still had Oakley and Ewing as the defensive back bone, that team could score and defend with the best of them...
They were probably the only team that could of beaten Jordan and the Bulls...
Yeah let's suspend Ewing for walking near the scoring table...
Nobody can convince me that if Jordan had done the same thing Ewing did that he would've received the same suspension.