NFT: Amazon allowance.

You need to devote your money and energy to getting a good attorney and fight this whole system.

She's also a 18 yo adult, so no one should be controlling her anymore. It would be nice for you and her to stay at your home

In comment 12304522 wgenesis123 said:

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They did it to get the funding. As to the drugs, that is done quite often to control children like Grace. Giving her the test while they had her all drugged up was was, well draw your own conclusions. I do know firsthand from talking to them that they were desparate to somehow get her to fail the test. My daughter claims they broke her glasses. I had to buy new glasses. They gave her the test while her glasses were broken. Last time we were in court Grace complained to the judge(or whatever they call them in Pa.) that she was not mentally retarded, that they tested her with no glasses, and no one disputed it.

so she didn't have any representation at a hearing with a magistrate(?) that was trying to determine if she was fit to take care of herself?

But now I have my own home with a room for Grace, so I want to try again. Problem is I have no way to take care of her while I am at work. Got to get that problem figured out first. Seems to me if they are willing to buy her a house and give her 24/7 babysitting than it would be cheaper for them to help me take care of her. I just don't believe they will do that. They lose that precious control that seems so important to them.

are called Your Royal High Majesty I believe, not 100% sure

(Kids for cash) but I feel there's a lot more to the story than just one failed IQ test.

They had a court appointed attorney.

More to the story? That was just for funding. Its not the story.

that requires institutionalization ?

for the funding, the real story HAS to involve Agent K and some black suits.

the drug they gave her in High School & College, I might of passed more tests and gotten a real job

Sometimes it helps to talk about the shit in your life to people who do not know you. No one really knows me on BBI and for all the crap you get here, well people are really smart. Also at the tough moments they show they are good people too. This is the perfect place for this, no bravery here.

and add $100 a month to it, would you stop sending the $8.15 in child support per week? I'm just curious, no offense meant, but how in the world do you pay $8 a week in child support? How is that even cost effective for them to track?

thinks a steady diet of carrots is in order.

Or, smuggle in a pair of contacts and petition to have the test retaken.

Just don't send her to the same eye guy child beggars in India go to.....

I feel for your situation even if I dont fully understand it. When you put it out there, there are snarky bastards like me that are going to do what we do.I think you opened up a can they you might not of intended, either way, good luck

I don't understand the child support myself. They garnished my wages last month and asked for $17.30 per pay period. I get paid every two weeks so it works out to (oh shit) $8.65 per week. Guess I screwed that number up. But it all makes no sense to me. I would gladly pay more.

anyone on $8.5....., nevermind

purposely rigged not one but two IQ test to try and make your daughter fail so they could amass all this undeserved funding?And they are making you provide $30 a month?

Good luck with everything, but there are lengthy chapters missing from all of this...

Seems to me they really don't want any help from me. Perhaps the number on the child support is more an insult than anything else. Hell its not even lunch money?

and the Judge awarded me $30 a month in Child support, I'd punch him/her in the tits

where is the mother in all of this?

you need to fight for her guardianship by all means necessary

It was actually the county and the advantage for them is they can get rid of Grace and she becomes someone elses problem. In one year the county placed Grace in 17 differant homes and facilities and she was kicked out of all of them.

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doesn't seem like it fits with the conspiracy angle unless they sabotaged all 17 to get her booted out.

That child support goes to the county of Lehigh.

What conspiracy?

In comment 12304730 wgenesis123 said:

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What conspiracy?

You're claiming that they've purposefully set her up to fail two IQ tests. What evidence do you have to support that other than your suspicions?

To assume your conclusion without evidence is conspiratorial thinking.

In comment 12304722 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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doesn't seem like it fits with the conspiracy angle unless they sabotaged all 17 to get her booted out.

What does that have to do with anything? She failed an IQ test, Pay attention!

1) How old was Grace when the mother died?;
2) Did the mother have custody of the Grace up till the time she died?
3) Were you ever married to the mother? Did you ever participate in the custody hearing? Assuming that for state or county to be given custody of Grace there had to be a custody hearing at some point?
4) Grace must be on a ton of meds....Where is social worker in all of this?
5) Has Grace been declared legally incompetent by a Pennsylvania court?
6) I'm guessing there are hundreds of PA attorneys (including legal aid lawyers) who would take up your cause in an instant. Spend $50 for a consultant sit down with a good atty. Call the PA State Bar Association - They'll recommend a reputable domestic relations lawyer. Go from there....

when she got thrown out of say house 11 wasn't 12,13,14,15,16 & 17 the slightest bit concerned she might have unmanageable issues?

based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea.

Good luck with everything else.

In comment 12304805 Jon said:

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based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else.

I think I'd defer to his 18 years experience with his daughter over your 5 minutes of thinking about whether she can handle getting $100 a month.

Can I ask why cash isnt an option? Do you see her? It strikes me that papering the transactions is not preferable if you think the state will just seize funds.

In comment 12304915 Deej said:

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In comment 12304805 Jon said: Quote: based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else. I think I'd defer to his 18 years experience with his daughter over your 5 minutes of thinking about whether she can handle getting $100 a month. Can I ask why cash isnt an option? Do you see her? It strikes me that papering the transactions is not preferable if you think the state will just seize funds.

That's cool and all but he did ask what we think of the idea.

In comment 12304805 Jon said:

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based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else.

Amazon's program provides the ability to use parental restrictions. At the most restrictive, every purchase must be reviewed and approved by the parent before it goes through.

about that. I mean we have a situation where a girl passes an IQ test drugged, but fails when glasses are broken. Has slight behavorial issues, but is kicked out of 17 homes she's placed in. Dad doesn't seem to be an option to leave her with permanently for some reason.

He provides $8 and maybe a Big Mac in child support a week (still say he should invest in carrots). State has intentionally wanted the girl to be a ward of the state even though she now of legal age.

So much doesn't make sense here.

My take is that wrestling with the issue of $100 should be about 478th on the priorities list here.

In comment 12304928 Jim in Fairfax said:

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Amazon's program provides the ability to use parental restrictions. At the most restrictive, every purchase must be reviewed and approved by the parent before it goes through.

Well, based on this new intel, maybe it wouldn't be such a horrible idea

conundrum

but some would take a lifetime to answer. The mother died 6 years ago. Mother and Father have never had custody of Grace since birth. I paid huge child support while she was a child. The current weird amount for child support was decided without any input from me. My mother had custody of Grace for 17 years and lost her to the county, they immediately took $663.00 per month in child support plus Grace's Social Security that she recieved after Mom died. This lesser amount is as a result of her being 18 years old.

a lot of us are thinking of ways to help this difficult and unfortunate situation.

Seeing that she is over 18, there must be some degree of disability that requires constant supervision/medical attention? by the state/homes.

How to help you, but I hope your daughter finds some peace, stability and happiness.

My daughter is telling me what happened. That I accept as dirrect evidence. I don't think they conspired to do this, I think they did it to help my daughter and to get rid of my daughter. Conspiracy may be an accurate describtion but its to strong of a word to describe what happened.

but wanted to wish you and your daughter the best

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That's cool and all but he did ask what we think of the idea.

That's fair, but I think the original question (which didnt include any of the michigas) was more about the mechanism than a request that we all make judgments about his daughter.

I found this thread pretty frustrating. Treating wgenesis's family like a curio is not BBI's best side.

(1) 12
(2) No
(3)No-Yes
(4)There are a bunch of social workers involved with Grace, I can't keep up with the changes also, they happen so fast that sometimes when I learn of a change it has since been changed.
(5) Yes
(6) Not sure that this is the best course of action at this time. I do hope it will be sometime soon.

Thank you.

In comment 12305024 wgenesis123 said:

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My daughter is telling me what happened. That I accept as dirrect evidence. I don't think they conspired to do this, I think they did it to help my daughter and to get rid of my daughter. Conspiracy may be an accurate describtion but its to strong of a word to describe what happened.

I can appreciate your emotional attachment to this and the desire to believe her, but surely you must recognize that someone who you yourself describe as having a troubled past, might not be the best source of objective information in this case.

I hope all goes well for you at any rate.

As it sounds like it is your desire. I truly hope that you are successfully able to work things out and are able to have your daughter come live with you and that in doing so it is a blessing in both yours and your daughters life. You both will be in my prayers.

I'm pulling for you both.

Thank you and its time to put this thread to bed. Good night all.

In comment 12305021 Rob in CT/NYC said:

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How to help you, but I hope your daughter finds some peace, stability and happiness.

This.