NFT: Amazon allowance.

In an investment account

They might take this once they get wind of it.

drinking alcohol during pregnancy. The state took custody of Grace a couple months ago and have labelled her Bi-polar and retarded. They drugged her to get her to fail an IQ test and she still passed, so they broke her glasses and gave her the test again and she failed. This granted stae and federal money for her. Now they plan on buying her a house and paying someone 24/7 to watch her. Its crazy.

I'm sorry your daughter and you have to go through all of this.

I just am looking for a way to provide my daughter some spending money that the state doesn't have say so over.

In comment 12303834 wgenesis123 said:

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drinking alcohol during pregnancy. The state took custody of Grace a couple months ago and have labelled her Bi-polar and retarded. They drugged her to get her to fail an IQ test and she still passed, so they broke her glasses and gave her the test again and she failed. This granted stae and federal money for her. Now they plan on buying her a house and paying someone 24/7 to watch her. Its crazy.

Wait, what?

How do you know this? Do you have evidence? Can she live on her own or are the results something you/she wants?

You're right that is crazy af.

who are you referring to? Who drugged her and broke her glasses? Who, exactly, has custody of her at this point?

P.S This thread is weird.

know what advice to give except to agree with Jon. This thread is VERY weird.

Grace was born with alcohol and other drugs in her system and suffered withdrawal as a newborn. Had to give her Phenobarbital for about 6 months to ween her off it. She has had problems from birth and can not be left alone. Her behavior is both anger and destructive. I myself have a spare bedroom and would love to have her here with me. I can't get any help from the state in pursuing that option. Lehigh County had custody when they broke her glasses to fail the IQ test. This thread did get much more complicated than I had intended and I am barely scratching the surface of the issues.

GDI

takes balls to put that stuff out there, but if there is a silver lining, I thank you for making me feel better about my world

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GDI

She's better off, if it was Florida they would've broken her glasses AND kicked her in the uterus.

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In comment 12304314 Jon said: Quote: GDI She's better off, if it was Florida they would've broken her glasses AND kicked her in the uterus.

and eaten her face.

But, from everything else you've shared, it sounds like you need an attorney. If what you say is true AND verifiable, it sounds like you have an excellent case against the county/state.

you don't have all the facts or don't quite understand the full situation.

In comment 12304372 Matt M. said:

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you don't have all the facts or don't quite understand the full situation.

Yes. This was my first thought. I could certainly be wrong of course- if the information is coming from the daughter, he's only gotten one side of the story. As the saying goes, make like a tree and split. Or something, something lies somewhere in between.

like a Jerky Boys outtake.

"I've fallen down the steps and my SHOES have fallen off"!

In comment 12304382 Cam in MO said:

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In comment 12304372 Matt M. said: Quote: you don't have all the facts or don't quite understand the full situation. Yes. This was my first thought. I could certainly be wrong of course- if the information is coming from the daughter, he's only gotten one side of the story. As the saying goes, make like a tree and split. Or something, something lies somewhere in between.

It HAD to be the state. There is no way it was his daughter who has "behavior that is both anger and destructive"

to sue everyone

So you can fight to get custody of your child. That would be the best use of it, not her watching movies.

Good luck with this

"Goddamnit Jones, she beat the test after you drugged her? Get me agent Franklin"

"You know what to do, Franklin. Break her fucking glasses! She CANNOT pass that test or your ass is mine!"

I'm just trying to figure out which actor would be best at ordering the code red.

YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!!!

if they said she failed before they drugged her and broke her glasses. Doesn't sound like she would of asked for a retest

'Wait, so we drugged her, and broke her glasses and she still passed. Can't we just say she failed anyway? Do I have to do all the thinking for everyone around here?!'

Doesn't "ward of the state" and child support all end once you're 18?

the next part was going to be another Sol Rosenbloom quote.

"My glasses broke and I can't see so well, Goddammit"

"Oh, God! My mother, she woke me up today. She poured a hot pan of grease all over my chest and my ass and genitals and I fell down the stairs and my shoes fell off."

did they break her glasses etc to get custody of her (evil) or did they do it because they had custody of her and getting her to low IQ status got her funding that they otherwise didnt have for her (murkier -- could be better than what would have otherwise happened).

"Some old lady up the fuckin floor above us is firing hot clam chowder down on the people on the rig"

That was Frank Rizzo with the hot chowder.

I hope Sol doesn't get wind of it and sues me for Slander

They did it to get the funding. As to the drugs, that is done quite often to control children like Grace. Giving her the test while they had her all drugged up was was, well draw your own conclusions. I do know firsthand from talking to them that they were desparate to somehow get her to fail the test. My daughter claims they broke her glasses. I had to buy new glasses. They gave her the test while her glasses were broken. Last time we were in court Grace complained to the judge(or whatever they call them in Pa.) that she was not mentally retarded, that they tested her with no glasses, and no one disputed it.

... if you as the father are willing and able to support your daughter (as it seems you are) why does Lehigh County have custody of your child?

And who pays $8.15 a week in child support? Seems kind of random....

You need to devote your money and energy to getting a good attorney and fight this whole system.

She's also a 18 yo adult, so no one should be controlling her anymore. It would be nice for you and her to stay at your home

In comment 12304522 wgenesis123 said:

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They did it to get the funding. As to the drugs, that is done quite often to control children like Grace. Giving her the test while they had her all drugged up was was, well draw your own conclusions. I do know firsthand from talking to them that they were desparate to somehow get her to fail the test. My daughter claims they broke her glasses. I had to buy new glasses. They gave her the test while her glasses were broken. Last time we were in court Grace complained to the judge(or whatever they call them in Pa.) that she was not mentally retarded, that they tested her with no glasses, and no one disputed it.

so she didn't have any representation at a hearing with a magistrate(?) that was trying to determine if she was fit to take care of herself?

But now I have my own home with a room for Grace, so I want to try again. Problem is I have no way to take care of her while I am at work. Got to get that problem figured out first. Seems to me if they are willing to buy her a house and give her 24/7 babysitting than it would be cheaper for them to help me take care of her. I just don't believe they will do that. They lose that precious control that seems so important to them.

are called Your Royal High Majesty I believe, not 100% sure

(Kids for cash) but I feel there's a lot more to the story than just one failed IQ test.

They had a court appointed attorney.

More to the story? That was just for funding. Its not the story.

that requires institutionalization ?

for the funding, the real story HAS to involve Agent K and some black suits.

the drug they gave her in High School & College, I might of passed more tests and gotten a real job

Sometimes it helps to talk about the shit in your life to people who do not know you. No one really knows me on BBI and for all the crap you get here, well people are really smart. Also at the tough moments they show they are good people too. This is the perfect place for this, no bravery here.

and add $100 a month to it, would you stop sending the $8.15 in child support per week? I'm just curious, no offense meant, but how in the world do you pay $8 a week in child support? How is that even cost effective for them to track?

thinks a steady diet of carrots is in order.

Or, smuggle in a pair of contacts and petition to have the test retaken.

Just don't send her to the same eye guy child beggars in India go to.....

I feel for your situation even if I dont fully understand it. When you put it out there, there are snarky bastards like me that are going to do what we do.I think you opened up a can they you might not of intended, either way, good luck

I don't understand the child support myself. They garnished my wages last month and asked for $17.30 per pay period. I get paid every two weeks so it works out to (oh shit) $8.65 per week. Guess I screwed that number up. But it all makes no sense to me. I would gladly pay more.

anyone on $8.5....., nevermind

purposely rigged not one but two IQ test to try and make your daughter fail so they could amass all this undeserved funding?And they are making you provide $30 a month?

Good luck with everything, but there are lengthy chapters missing from all of this...

Seems to me they really don't want any help from me. Perhaps the number on the child support is more an insult than anything else. Hell its not even lunch money?

and the Judge awarded me $30 a month in Child support, I'd punch him/her in the tits

where is the mother in all of this?

you need to fight for her guardianship by all means necessary

It was actually the county and the advantage for them is they can get rid of Grace and she becomes someone elses problem. In one year the county placed Grace in 17 differant homes and facilities and she was kicked out of all of them.

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doesn't seem like it fits with the conspiracy angle unless they sabotaged all 17 to get her booted out.

That child support goes to the county of Lehigh.

What conspiracy?

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What conspiracy?

You're claiming that they've purposefully set her up to fail two IQ tests. What evidence do you have to support that other than your suspicions?

To assume your conclusion without evidence is conspiratorial thinking.

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doesn't seem like it fits with the conspiracy angle unless they sabotaged all 17 to get her booted out.

What does that have to do with anything? She failed an IQ test, Pay attention!

1) How old was Grace when the mother died?;
2) Did the mother have custody of the Grace up till the time she died?
3) Were you ever married to the mother? Did you ever participate in the custody hearing? Assuming that for state or county to be given custody of Grace there had to be a custody hearing at some point?
4) Grace must be on a ton of meds....Where is social worker in all of this?
5) Has Grace been declared legally incompetent by a Pennsylvania court?
6) I'm guessing there are hundreds of PA attorneys (including legal aid lawyers) who would take up your cause in an instant. Spend $50 for a consultant sit down with a good atty. Call the PA State Bar Association - They'll recommend a reputable domestic relations lawyer. Go from there....

when she got thrown out of say house 11 wasn't 12,13,14,15,16 & 17 the slightest bit concerned she might have unmanageable issues?

based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea.

Good luck with everything else.

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based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else.

I think I'd defer to his 18 years experience with his daughter over your 5 minutes of thinking about whether she can handle getting $100 a month.

Can I ask why cash isnt an option? Do you see her? It strikes me that papering the transactions is not preferable if you think the state will just seize funds.

In comment 12304915 Deej said:

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In comment 12304805 Jon said: Quote: based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else. I think I'd defer to his 18 years experience with his daughter over your 5 minutes of thinking about whether she can handle getting $100 a month. Can I ask why cash isnt an option? Do you see her? It strikes me that papering the transactions is not preferable if you think the state will just seize funds.

That's cool and all but he did ask what we think of the idea.

In comment 12304805 Jon said:

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based on the behaviors listed, I think giving her $100 a month to spend on anything she wants would be a horrible idea. Good luck with everything else.

Amazon's program provides the ability to use parental restrictions. At the most restrictive, every purchase must be reviewed and approved by the parent before it goes through.

about that. I mean we have a situation where a girl passes an IQ test drugged, but fails when glasses are broken. Has slight behavorial issues, but is kicked out of 17 homes she's placed in. Dad doesn't seem to be an option to leave her with permanently for some reason.

He provides $8 and maybe a Big Mac in child support a week (still say he should invest in carrots). State has intentionally wanted the girl to be a ward of the state even though she now of legal age.

So much doesn't make sense here.

My take is that wrestling with the issue of $100 should be about 478th on the priorities list here.

In comment 12304928 Jim in Fairfax said:

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Amazon's program provides the ability to use parental restrictions. At the most restrictive, every purchase must be reviewed and approved by the parent before it goes through.

Well, based on this new intel, maybe it wouldn't be such a horrible idea

conundrum

but some would take a lifetime to answer. The mother died 6 years ago. Mother and Father have never had custody of Grace since birth. I paid huge child support while she was a child. The current weird amount for child support was decided without any input from me. My mother had custody of Grace for 17 years and lost her to the county, they immediately took $663.00 per month in child support plus Grace's Social Security that she recieved after Mom died. This lesser amount is as a result of her being 18 years old.

a lot of us are thinking of ways to help this difficult and unfortunate situation.

Seeing that she is over 18, there must be some degree of disability that requires constant supervision/medical attention? by the state/homes.

How to help you, but I hope your daughter finds some peace, stability and happiness.

My daughter is telling me what happened. That I accept as dirrect evidence. I don't think they conspired to do this, I think they did it to help my daughter and to get rid of my daughter. Conspiracy may be an accurate describtion but its to strong of a word to describe what happened.

but wanted to wish you and your daughter the best

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That's cool and all but he did ask what we think of the idea.

That's fair, but I think the original question (which didnt include any of the michigas) was more about the mechanism than a request that we all make judgments about his daughter.

I found this thread pretty frustrating. Treating wgenesis's family like a curio is not BBI's best side.

(1) 12
(2) No
(3)No-Yes
(4)There are a bunch of social workers involved with Grace, I can't keep up with the changes also, they happen so fast that sometimes when I learn of a change it has since been changed.
(5) Yes
(6) Not sure that this is the best course of action at this time. I do hope it will be sometime soon.

Thank you.

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My daughter is telling me what happened. That I accept as dirrect evidence. I don't think they conspired to do this, I think they did it to help my daughter and to get rid of my daughter. Conspiracy may be an accurate describtion but its to strong of a word to describe what happened.

I can appreciate your emotional attachment to this and the desire to believe her, but surely you must recognize that someone who you yourself describe as having a troubled past, might not be the best source of objective information in this case.

I hope all goes well for you at any rate.

As it sounds like it is your desire. I truly hope that you are successfully able to work things out and are able to have your daughter come live with you and that in doing so it is a blessing in both yours and your daughters life. You both will be in my prayers.

I'm pulling for you both.

Thank you and its time to put this thread to bed. Good night all.

In comment 12305021 Rob in CT/NYC said:

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How to help you, but I hope your daughter finds some peace, stability and happiness.

This.