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kelsto811 : 5/28/2015 9:31 am
Might be too early but...

Who is your first round target this year?

Who is the consensus first overall pick?

Who are you keeping?

What rookies will you target?

What is your ideal round to draft a QB?

What is AP's value?

Just curious to hear some opinions o
If you're for some fantasy discussion
Like every year that goes on  
UConn4523 : 5/28/2015 9:38 am : link
having the #1 pick just isn't good value, IMO. I ended up winning ky league last year and took McCoy 1 overall. Can't remeber exactly but atleast 5 RBs had better years. His dud games really sucked. Thankfully he had a few decent games down the stretch.

Charles #1 doesn't do it for me though I suspect he's the guy most people take. Forte won't catch as many passes this year and Murray won't rush anywhere close to 2015.

I'd love a later pick this year. Getting a Lynch/Beckham combo in the first 2 rounds would be nice but I haven't really looked at anything yet to know what's realistic.
It is tremendously early to project  
MadPlaid : 5/28/2015 11:27 am : link
but I agree. Picking late this year looks good. At least, I hope so considering I have the 10th pick in a 12 team league draft. I'm hoping someone like Murray, McCoy or Lynch fall to me. C.J. Anderson is intriguing too. I see myself going WR with my 2nd round pick. I probably won't be looking at QB until the 4th round at the earliest.

kelsto - what are your thoughts on this subject? After all this is your thread. Shouldn't you provide us with some of the things you are thinking about?
Madplaid...yes  
kelsto811 : 5/28/2015 11:44 am : link
I was waiting to see if this picked up a little more steam

I have to decide between Luck and Bell as keepers...I got Bell in the 2nd and Luck in the 4th...

I still like Bell as the top RB in PPR

I think 4th-6th round is good value for a QB though and Luck is top 2 fantasy in that spot

I picked AP first last season...I'm not gonna go near him this year. I'll let someone else deal with that headache

Rookies I'm not so sure of. Gotta see some preseason action.

In terms of WR I have to say OBJ is my guy in the 2nd if he's there...however he's probably going to be a keeper and if not I'm still gonna have pick 11 in a 12 team draft
A couple of thoughts...  
EricJ : 5/28/2015 11:49 am : link
1. It is too early for any of this still. Lots needs to unfold with the teams.
2. No way to answer your questions without understanding the scoring of the league. Yes, it matters.


RB choices in round 1 are now over rated.

Drafting a QB to me is determined on how the draft is unfolding. If two guys in front of you pick Manning and Rodgers in round 1 ahead of you, then do the right thing and take the top WRs that they passed on. Dont get crazy and start drafting Romo or Luck in the top 10. You have to offset the production they are getting from the top 2 QBs by getting the top WRs or RBs.

Right now, we just dont know which RB will be a guy who is carrying the load for a team all game long. Cannot count on Murray with Chip Kelly. MAYBE McCoy now that he is with Rex but I dont trust him enough to draft him in the top 10 either.
Way too early  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2015 11:57 am : link
we still have the whole summer arrest and training camp injury seasons to get through.

what do feel like now is I'm keeping Odell Beckham for an 8th round pick.

And I'm likely deciding between Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, and Kelvin Benjamin and Julio Jones for my other keeper.

Jones would cost me a first. Evans a 7th, Watkins a 9th and Benjamin a 13th, so it's probably going to be Benjamin.
I have done a few mocks already  
dep026 : 5/28/2015 12:15 pm : link
In a standard format, its pretty wise to get a RB with your first pick. Peterson or Lacy would be my choices. Beacuse it rounds 2/3, you may get a Green/Nelson combo as your WRs. If you take a WR first, you are looking at maybe a CJ Anderson or Ingram as your top RB.

In a PPR league, Antonio Brown, to me, is the clear #1.
Charles  
Mr. Nickels : 5/28/2015 12:23 pm : link
is #1.
one thing is for certain  
djm : 5/28/2015 12:32 pm : link
Lynch will be under drafted as usual. Get him in round 1 and you're set at RB...he routinely slips. I'm hoping I pick late in round 1 and can get a Lynch, Brown or OBJ combo.
I say  
Glover : 5/28/2015 12:41 pm : link
the best value in the first round will be Matt Forte. He absolutely killed it last season in PPR and for whatever reason right now he is not ranked in the top 3 RBs where he should be. I take QB in the 5th or 6th round, and TE the same. Best not to overthink it, I draft position, it always works out for me. 1)RB, 2)WR, 3)RB, 4)WR, 5)QB or TE, 6)QB or TE, 7)RB, 8)WR 9)RB 10)WR and on down the line. You can swap WR and RB order if you are drafting 7 or later, but I wouldn't jump on Antonio Brown or Beckham earlier than that.

A lot of People don't draft backup TEs, but I have been hurt by bad TEs too often not to take a quality back up. Hell, I thought I was in like Flynn last season taking Vernon Davis in the 5th. That didn't work out too well. Micah Rivera is my friend. Other league I waited and waited on TE, ended up drafting Ladarius Green, and eventually trading for Julius Thomas, who got hurt the week after I got him. Don't underestimate TE value. Im not shooting for Gronk or Graham, but I will be drafting a quality backup.
Not sure you will be able  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2015 12:44 pm : link
to get Gronkowski or Grahan in the 5th or 6th round.

even in non-ppr leagues.
RE: Not sure you will be able  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2015 12:45 pm : link
In comment 12304273 pjcas18 said:
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to get Gronkowski or Grahan in the 5th or 6th round.

even in non-ppr leagues.


sorry, misread - you said you're not shooting for Gronk or Graham.
RE: Way too early  
River Mike : 5/28/2015 12:49 pm : link
In comment 12304166 pjcas18 said:
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we still have the whole summer arrest and training camp injury seasons to get through.

what do feel like now is I'm keeping Odell Beckham for an 8th round pick.

And I'm likely deciding between Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, and Kelvin Benjamin and Julio Jones for my other keeper.

Jones would cost me a first. Evans a 7th, Watkins a 9th and Benjamin a 13th, so it's probably going to be Benjamin.


Just checked Walter Football, they have Odell ranked as the number 1 receiver.
All I know  
JesseS : 5/28/2015 12:51 pm : link
is I got Beckham with the 10th pick of our rookie draft last year.....one pick after Eric Ebron. So that happened. PPR league.
If you're a giant fan  
Old Dirty Beckham : 5/28/2015 12:55 pm : link
and you draft an eagle cowboy or redskins you're a coward.
RE: If you're a giant fan  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2015 12:57 pm : link
In comment 12304295 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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and you draft an eagle cowboy or redskins you're a coward.


that's a very immature way of looking at fantasy football. Don't play if you cannot separate the individual achievements of a player from the team results.
RE: If you're a giant fan  
dep026 : 5/28/2015 12:59 pm : link
In comment 12304295 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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and you draft an eagle cowboy or redskins you're a coward.


I drafted McCoy and Dan Bailey last year. I won a lot of $$$$.
kelsto  
MadPlaid : 5/28/2015 1:00 pm : link
Thanks.

I'd keep Bell. RB's in keeper leagues are generally hard to come by. Too bad you have to give up your 2nd round pick to do it.

I've been wondering what I would do if AP fell to me at the end of the 1st round. It sure would be tempting to take a chance on him. If by the end of the Summer he is still not practicing with the Vikings or any other team, I wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot cattle prod.

I have Alshon Jeffrey as a keepable. Fortunately, I only have to give up a 7th round pick to keep him. He's going to look good along side who ever I pick up in the first two rounds.
How about guys who will get overdrafted?  
dep026 : 5/28/2015 1:01 pm : link
Or guys you want no part of.

1. Mason/Gurley - who knows what to expect.
2. Leveon Bell - I know he is a beast, bu 3 games missed for a 1st round pick is a lot.
3. McCoy - I think he is done and they have no QB.
4. Russell WIlson - he is the consensus 4th QB. Ive seen him consistently go in rounds 5-6. I think Eli, Romo, Ryan are better options in rounds 9-10.
RE: If you're a giant fan  
MadPlaid : 5/28/2015 1:02 pm : link
In comment 12304295 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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and you draft an eagle cowboy or redskins you're a coward.


That is a really stupid comment. Homers never do well in fantasy football.
You know what dep  
kelsto811 : 5/28/2015 1:11 pm : link
I completely forgot Bell got suspended...I may have to rethink keeping him. I did have mason and Charles Johnson as FA pickups who might be worth keeping but I'm really not sure. Still have the choice of Luck for a 4th
RE: one thing is for certain  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/28/2015 1:41 pm : link
In comment 12304244 djm said:
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Lynch will be under drafted as usual. Get him in round 1 and you're set at RB...he routinely slips. I'm hoping I pick late in round 1 and can get a Lynch, Brown or OBJ combo.


this happened in auctions as well - got Lynch for much less than the other top 5-6 RBs
kelsto  
MadPlaid : 5/28/2015 2:23 pm : link
When I recommended keeping Bell that was with the knowledge that he is suspended for 3 games. I think he is still worth it.
Plaid  
kelsto811 : 5/28/2015 2:27 pm : link
I appreciate the advice. I'm definitely going to think on it.
That's what fantasy owners do  
MadPlaid : 5/28/2015 2:56 pm : link
we think on it. Sometimes too much. At least that's what I do.

Good luck this year
Last year I made a list of all the players and tiered them  
TheEvilLurker : 5/28/2015 3:07 pm : link
according to position. Then I check them off as they are being picked.

That way, if I see a run on a top tier, I can jump ahead and pick them up. (Last year, I wanted to get one of Rodgers, Brees, P. Manning, so I didn't draft RB until much later).
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