Is this the year the JPP of TE's takes a huge step forward?

Right?

If he does, we potentially go from squat(pre-season last year) to one of the stronger positions in the league, imv

as Travis Beckum. Ton's of AA for a TE, little production until the last year of his deal.

In comment 12304937 BLUATHRT said:

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as Travis Beckum. Ton's of AA for a TE, little production until the last year of his deal.

If Robinson takes a step forward, he would wildly exceed Beckum's career path. When did Beckum ever progress (other than one terrific play against GB)?

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to the buffet line.

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and his final year he was clearly a more capable target for Eli. Eli threw it a lot more to the FB, TE, and RB in 2011 than before or since under KG.

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too bad he injured his knee.

In comment 12304999 mattlawson said:

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and his final year he was clearly a more capable target for Eli. Eli threw it a lot more to the FB, TE, and RB in 2011 than before or since under KG.

In what way was he clearly a more capable target?

Donnell's a crappy blocker and Robinson hasn't been a productive receiver.
Fells is okay as 2nd or 3rd TE if he hasn't aged 2 years in 4 months.

All 3 need to be worrying about their spots. I can envision 2 new TEs by September.

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I was thinking a huge step forward to the unemployment line.

I'm not wishing that on him, just what I'd guess.

if he has not seen the field yet in any meaningful way, that is pretty darn concerning. And even the play he made last year, did he strike anyone else as "awkward"?

he'll move on with his life.

and I don't see him getting cut. He's athletic enough and is a decent blocker. He will get plenty of opportunity this pre-season however, especially with Lacosse and Tye breathing down his neck for a roster spot.

It's strange because at the time of the pick, it seemed that the story on him was that he was a great athlete but raw and unpolished at the position and needed to be coached a bit and that's fine, but.. I've really never noticed him athletically. In the limited time I've seen him, he's looked fairly slow and plodding. Didn't display great hands. Just nothing physical that made me think "wow, this kid has some talent.. he just needs work"

I just haven't seen much of anything to be hopeful about. Would love to be wrong but that's been my perception of him so far.

and Fells are prime candidates to be cut. Part of what could be a major veteran purge, including Mosley, Reynolds, Herman, Jenkins, Kuhn, and a few others.

And as long as AR is wearing our colors, I will remain a fan.

it was the same thing.

New year, same scam

Ramses Barden and SInorice Moss.

but knowing me he's gonna turn into Jimmy Graham

Someone will fish up this post and I will eat crow

He's cut.

This year, he moves right up to the point where JPP had a bad back.

Next question.

And the year before.

My opinion,man.

with full health and a full training camp. But I'm not optimistic.

it just seems like wishful thinking to expect him to become a contributor.

In comment 12305206 Lithium said:

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And the year before.

Ditto.

is a better blocker than Fells/Donnell, but tat is not saying much, because they both suck at blocking....

He show good straight line speed up the seams, but loses all that speed when he has to make a cut.....

Lets face it, he has not had the opportunities....and the Giants must know the reason for that.....

He made the team last year, because Fells/Donnell were basically unknowns, and he is cheap.....

He must show something this year....a blocking TE is needed by this team....it's a golden opportunity for him....it's all up to him....

a huge step forward?To me it wouldn't have anything to do with how many sacks he has this year.It would be about how he got those sacks.Does he expand his bag of tricks to get to the Quarter Back,Has he shown the ability to constantly be the double team like all great DE's show?Will he show an upgrade to his motor this year and will he be a player that shows up during the big moments and the big games.


If the majority of those are still question marks or flat out no's then I would let him walk and allocate those funds to other positions that justify the signings.You just don't sign a person because they are a big name.

In comment 12305463 King Quis said:

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a huge step forward?To me it wouldn't have anything to do with how many sacks he has this year.It would be about how he got those sacks.Does he expand his bag of tricks to get to the Quarter Back,Has he shown the ability to constantly be the double team like all great DE's show?Will he show an upgrade to his motor this year and will he be a player that shows up during the big moments and the big games. If the majority of those are still question marks or flat out no's then I would let him walk and allocate those funds to other positions that justify the signings.You just don't sign a person because they are a big name.

Sorry wrong thread fellas.... JPP has just got in my craw and I don't want any parts of him so the sight of his name brings on tangents on my part.

really on the bubble IMO. He's done nothing. Same for Mosley. Now or never for both. And my guess is it's never. They're both fourth round picks whose time has run out. Robinson was passed on the depth chart by Donnell, a UDFA former QB from Grambling State. Mosley couldn't beat out Jerry.

the guy has shown nothing. as someone else said, just getting on the field would be a major step forward.

Because of his perceived blocking potential and real bulk, combined with great, for his size, deep seam speed he could easily supplant Donnell as the starter in the base offense. If he blocks for the tough guy runners we have, TC will be impressed.

On the other hand, he is in the last year of his rookie contract. Not much dead money, so he could be cut in camp almost without consequence.

Bubble player, but a really expansive bubble.