NFT: New York Rangers vs. Tampa Bay Lightning, Game 7, 8:00pm

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I'll watch

Since last night. Damn near impossible to get anything done at work today. Just find a way tonight boys. Dont care if its 1-0.

#game7day

The non-empty net goals in this series are NYR 20, Tampa 19. Tampa is 2-1 in this building in this series, and 4-1 on the year.... despite that they were an under .500 club on the road during the season.

And you're getting about 1.5 your money to bet on them.

Vegas is begging and daring people to bet against Hank tonight.

Hank has to be stellar. Brassard/Nash need to be dominant again.

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Just ready to go, we all know what's on the line. Let's go

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an ice hockey match tonight?

Rangers are overdue for a great game at home. If they can test Bishop early I think it will be over quickly. He is ready to collapse from the pressure. Tampa can score and Rangers can't make mistakes in their own end. Play solid defense and put the puck on Bishop from any angle until he blinks.

Let's Go Rangers!

but as Brett likes to say, 'clutch' is overrated. Why would Hank be super focused in a game 7, but not in say a playoff overtime where his track record certainly before this season was mediocre at best (?) Was he not focused in game 3 of this series when he let in a soft one in OT?

We need to score 4 goals tonight - can't rely on Hank every game 7. We need other heroes too.

mixed emotions about missing the game...

That the Rangers won in overtime, like 3 seconds into it. I was really annoyed when I woke up and it hadn't actually happened.

But I'd still rather see them win easy.

#LGR!!
Rangers Goal Song - ( New Window )

LGR~~!

Just win.

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we've got this...if it's still 0-0 midway thru the 2nd, then it's anyone's hockey game

Get. It. Done. Let's Go Rangers!!

#LGR!!!!

Man I wish we re-signed this guy. What a clutch goal.


Who is this guy? - ( New Window )

But I don't want this thing going anywhere near OT

Clap Clap ClapClapClap!!!


More D. Slow Tampa down and unleash the beast! More Nash, Miller and Brassard. I'd love to see a goal from Glass. Wouldn't that be a kick to the head?

In comment 12305531 MadPlaid said:

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I'd love to see a goal from Glass.

Hank, Mac, Staal, Girardi all have another level we haven't seen from them in this series. It's time. Our physical play sparked the victory in games 4 and 6. We need to take the body and finish our checks all night long. LGR!

Can't imagine what tonights gonna be like.

But Henrik's record in elimination games is fairly amazing, and it's more than just a few games. I have no doubt he'll be at the top of his game tonight.

This day is going to be brutal.

I'd have a heart attack before I ever lived to see another 2OT Matteau moment tonight so let's just steer clear of OT altogether please.

Fucks sake.. is it 8:00 yet?

Today, fing work...I want to fast forward 12 hours already

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I'll have seven hours to grow a playoff beard. ;0

Tonight. The Rangers need to weather some storms. It's going to be a ready tough game to win.

And it is good

You can do it!

has been up exponentially since last night, it ratcheted up through the morning hours and awoke me at 6am ...it's D Day boys!

As Brassard so aptly put it in the Game 6 post game interview, "we've been working all year for home ice and our fans deserve a Game 7".

Let's all do what we can as fans to be the very best we can for the team we bleed blue for. Get it done, any means necessary!

For those who are going, see you at MSG and Let's Go Rangers!!!

Fuckers. I know it's hard to feel comfortable when your team is in the game. From an outsider, I have called it every round. This one is in the bag.
#hateallofyou

drop the fucking puck already!!

Seth Rothman ‏@RothmanHockey 4m4 minutes ago
Mats Zuccarello skated in a non-contact jersey this morning at #Rangers' optional morning skate. He will not play in #Game7 tonight.

And no disappointment on my side...I would consider it an incredibly stupid decision for them to trot him out in game 7 sight unseen if he had been cleared.

Having said that, I'll be hoping he's good to go for Game 1 of the SCF.

I just want to tell the boys good luck. We're all counting on you.

I think the D has to be stellar. If Hank gets decent D, I have no doubts about his performance. I also think the Rangers have to be aggressive on O and force the action, like they did in Game 1 and Game 6. that includes getting people in front of the net for the plethora of rebounds Bishop has given up.

still disgusted by the total unwillingness to get to the slot in Game 5. Every rush was up the boards.

The dmen will do what they do. Tampa is just fantastic at passing within the offensive zone. There is only so much our guys can do. Again, the forwards need to be on the ball there, because they are the ones who can really clog things up (since they dont have to guard the net mouth).

That kind of aggressiveness is how the forwards have to play.

It probably means nothing in the end but there is just such a stark difference between Vigneault and Cooper and their approaches.

AV remains even-keeled at all times regardless of circumstance and he always seems to be a calming presence. Never panics, never gets ahead of himself. The focus is always on the task at hand.

With Cooper, you can just tell the guy has never been here before. He just seems very defensive and "yeah, well! We'll show them!"

Tampa is an excellent team, they're dangerous, they're going to be very tough to beat.. but I am very comfortable knowing who is behind our bench and also in our net.

of the 3rd period in game 6 was probably the best we played all season

They had some really dominant performances during that Feb-Mar. hot streak, but I do think it was easily their best play of the playoffs.

for Cooper, but it seems very apt. There's definitely a lot of Harbaugh to Cooper.

Yeah, it was. Cooper right now reminds me a lot of Harbaugh going into the NFCC Game against us in January of 2012.

I think he can become a really good coach and maybe he is right now. But you can just tell this is new territory and he's kind of ebbing and flowing with the outcomes of the games whereas with AV, he's just one guy regardless of the outcome.

Like I said, it may mean nothing at the end of the day. I just thought Cooper really let his frustration show after Game 6 and he looked like a kid who didn't get what he wanted. It just didn't look professional at all.

please get us back to the finals tonight, guys. please please please please please please please

I know the numbers point to us, but something about the Rangers makes me never confident. Tampa is a fucking awesome team, and they are fully capable of beating us handily - let alone winning a close game.

We need our king to go into god-mode. Cmon Hank, cmon...

And even now, going into this game, it's like.. "yeah well they didn't beat US in a Game 7 yet! MAYBE they can hang their hat on the past but they haven't done it against our group" , etc..

While he's right, you know AV would handle it completely differently. He'd just say "well, what they've done is certainly impressive, they're a good team. We're just focusing on trying to win this game" and leave it at that.

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They had some really dominant performances during that Feb-Mar. hot streak, but I do think it was easily their best play of the playoffs.

You'd be hard pressed to find a better 8 minute stretch even during the regular season.

Through the first 8 minutes, I think we had 8 scoring chances to zero for them. And 3 goals. Just complete domination for that stretch against a very good team

A lot of false bravado, "We've been here before" when they haven't made it past the first round since 2011, when they had a completely different roster other than Stamkos.

if 2/3rds of the game isn't spent in the Rangers end. Really need them to come out and pick up where they left off in game 6.

has been great all season and has won approx five out of the last six periods. His comments have been spot on regarding his young team. He deserves a lot more praise than nitpicking ridicule.

In comment 12305797 Matt M. said:

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I think the D has to be stellar. If Hank gets decent D, I have no doubts about his performance. I also think the Rangers have to be aggressive on O and force the action, like they did in Game 1 and Game 6. that includes getting people in front of the net for the plethora of rebounds Bishop has given up.

Agreed. Everyone is banged up. McDonough didn't skate yesterday and his sub-par play makes me wonder if there is something physically wrong as well as to what degree Klein has healed from his injury.

play the lightning much better when they forecheck hard and take the body on D. Most of TB chances come when the Rangers let them enter the zone and reach with their sticks. TB is also banged up as well, and they have a lot less size on the top 6 then the Rangers do. Hopefully Hank is Hank and they just grind them down. Get shots on Bishop and crash the net. I'm hoping for an easy game 7 W that doesn't have my heart beating through my chest all game. LGR, WE WANT THE CUP!!!!

I really, really, really hope the officials just let them play tonight. I am going to be livid if they go into "call everything" mode. The last thing I want to see is a lot of special teams hockey. The more 5v5, the better.

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has won approx five out of the last six periods.

On what planet?

Even if I grant you the first two periods of game 6 - which we led 2-1 .... Game 5 wasn't a dominating performance by any means. They stole that game actually. (we played horrible, and they had about 4 quality scoring chances the entire night)

even despite outshooting us in game 6 first period by 10, we still had at least the same amount of scoring chances. They shot a ton of ridiculously low percentage shots, which im fine with. I think they had two scoring chances entire period

handshakes

Other than that insane save Henrik made on Stamkos during that first period PK, I don't remember any other great chances for Tampa early on in game 6.

had a very good chance that Henrik saved after I believe Klein decided to throw it behind him right to the middle of the ice to Callahan.

Those were the only two

1) Get one past Bishop early
2) Stay the fuck out of penalty box

never allow it to turn into 3 and instead start a new 7-8 winning streak ... Hank goes down for 20 some games with Rangers somewhere like #8 in the Conference and they get to #1 before his return ... Game 7 OT against the Caps ...

This is THE year baby and the proof of that continues tonight!

LGR. I'm pumped. I'm psyched. And I can't WAIT for them to drop the puck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hank goes down for 20 some games with Rangers somewhere like #8 in the Conference and they get to #1 before his return ...

You know i never would have believed this, but just went to 'dropyourgloves' and by God on Feb 3 when the Rangers announced Lundqvist would miss a month+, the Rangers were tied at 6th in the conference with the Caps and just one point ahead of Boston at #8. Granted i guess it was because we had a few games in hand on everyone, but yeah, that's impressive.

As resilient as this team is... Game 7s still involve a lot of luck. Hopefully we get some bounces tonight. Losing with what you just described above just makes everything even more painful.

about a Stomach bug that some of the Lightning players have or had. Hope it slows them down. Cooper says they are fine..but I hope they are sluggish.

Man, when that team loses, the excuses start cascading out. Oh, Bishop is playing hurt! A bunch of guys were sick!

Like MAB said, it's funny how their "sickness" didn't affect them until the third period on Tuesday.

had hip surgery.

some of this stuff is real, some is probably gamesmanship.

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In comment 12306012 pjcas18 said:

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had hip surgery. some of this stuff is real, some is probably gamesmanship.

And wasn't there chatter that Yandle has been playing through a separated shoulder? Either way, I don't want to hear any excuses from any team, all of them are banged up and being held together by stitches and duct tape at this point of the season

But I also don't remember the Caps saying much about it, not like Tampa has.

Virtually no one's 100% this time of year. The Rangers have had to play 14 games without Zuccarello. MSL has been complete dogshit since he hurt his knee. Yandle's played hurt. I suspect McDonagh has as well. Girardi's ALWAYS playing through some injury.

�@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Stamkos on Lundqvist Game 7 success: ''He's a great goalie. He's never played the Tampa Bay Lightning in a Game 7 before.''�

�@jthomson22: Cooper: "I respect what the Rangers have done. ... (But) has Anton Stralman ever lost a Game 7? Has Matt Carle ever lost a Game 7?"�

�@JimCerny: I sense a real quiet confidence per usual in #NYR room..I sense a more cocky confidence in the Lightning room..should be a great one tonight�

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In comment 12305908 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 12305892 Giants2012 said: Quote: has won approx five out of the last six periods. On what planet? Even if I grant you the first two periods of game 6 - which we led 2-1 .... Game 5 wasn't a dominating performance by any means. They stole that game actually. (we played horrible, and they had about 4 quality scoring chances the entire night)

Do you know what "approx." stands for on this planet? Claiming they stole that game followed by we played horrible makes no sense at all.

Humble and hungry. Beat the shit out of Cooper and his squad.

In comment 12306040 Greg from LI said:

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But I also don't remember the Caps saying much about it, not like Tampa has. Virtually no one's 100% this time of year. The Rangers have had to play 14 games without Zuccarello. MSL has been complete dogshit since he hurt his knee. Yandle's played hurt. I suspect McDonagh has as well. Girardi's ALWAYS playing through some injury.

I agree, and of course not, hockey invented the Belichickian evasiveness on injury reports, almost no NHL team reveals injuries and I don't think they have to. this is wear "x player has an upper body" comes from. Or nothing at all. too easy to target someone. legally, but too easy.

In comment 12306042 BrettNYG10 said:

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�@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Stamkos on Lundqvist Game 7 success: ''He's a great goalie. He's never played the Tampa Bay Lightning in a Game 7 before.''� �@jthomson22: Cooper: "I respect what the Rangers have done. ... (But) has Anton Stralman ever lost a Game 7? Has Matt Carle ever lost a Game 7?"� �@JimCerny: I sense a real quiet confidence per usual in #NYR room..I sense a more cocky confidence in the Lightning room..should be a great one tonight�

We're in their fucking heads now...love it

As Samuel L. Jackson said in Rules of Engagement.....WASTE THE MOTHERFUCKERS!

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Who was Stralman's goalie when he was winning those game 7s? Oh, right....

Yup. Once a team starts going down that road, you know they're trying to convince themselves more than anything else. It was the same thing with the Capitals. Ovechkin's "guarantee", etc..

Business as usual for the Rangers.

Earn it.

Who's in?

In comment 12306086 arcarsenal said:

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Yup. Once a team starts going down that road, you know they're trying to convince themselves more than anything else. It was the same thing with the Capitals. Ovechkin's "guarantee", etc.. Business as usual for the Rangers.

Messier's guarantee was different?

In comment 12306086 arcarsenal said:

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Yup. Once a team starts going down that road, you know they're trying to convince themselves more than anything else. It was the same thing with the Capitals. Ovechkin's "guarantee", etc.. Business as usual for the Rangers.

All true, but put me the camp that doesnt think this stuff matters one way or the other regardless. The Caps had plenty of chances to finish us off that night - dont tell me you werent shitting bricks when Ketz-whatever blew by MSL in the 3rd period ... and pretty much the entire first 8 minutes of that OT.

In comment 12306094 pjcas18 said:

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Messier's guarantee was different?

drop the mic and walk away. You nailed it.

Mark Messier had won 5 Stanley Cups at that point in time. It's pretty safe to say there's a major difference between a guy who had his track record saying it who had been there and done that numerous times and a guy who had never even played in an ECF or in Cooper's case, never coached beyond this point at the NHL level.

It's quite different.

He was trying to take the pressure off his teammates by putting it on himself. I mean, let's be honest here - compared to the microscope the 1994 Rangers played under, there is zero pressure on the Bolts whatsoever. We're talking 1940, Red Dutton's curse, a mercenary team and a mercenary coach who were brought together for one season to win it all while playing a crosstown upstart in the biggest media market in the country. Plus, behind the scenes, the locker room was a mess. Keenan was already secretly putting out feelers with other teams. He had made bizarre coaching moves in the game 4 loss, playing musical goalies with Richter and Healey and benching Leetch for most of the game.

Messier's guarantee was calculated to take the spotlight off all the craziness surrounding the team and put it on himself, and that's what it did.

Who knows? Is he even going to play THIS game 7? He has been benched multiple times during games this series. Look at game 4 -- played 1:36 and was completely healthy.

"Dont worry guys, Matt Carle's got this"

are all the same now and I think are for the same purpose.

you want to show confidence in your team, if you want to take pressure off others, like Messier - and probably like Ovechkin (who really impressed me this year) did then great, but I don't see a difference in impact one bit.

And I definitely don't believe it is even the slightest indication anyone is in anyone's head.

just my opinion though.

and history doesn't mean anything either.

Both teams are loaded for one game.

Yeah, I don't buy that the Rangers are in their heads or anything. All the post-game narratives will be bullshit, as are the pre-game ones.

Lunquist doesn't lose game 7's at home. Alex Ovechkin doesn't play past the second round.

And Cooper can suck a warthog's cock.

I just think Cooper is reaching for anything he can hang onto right now. Like Greg said, there's just a lot of false bravado coming from that locker room.

Will it impact the game? Probably not.

But hanging your hat on Matt Carle not having lost a Game 7? Matt Carle?

I mean, come on.... there's reaching and there's.. that.

with 3 teams people. Have some respekt.

2010 vs Boston 2nd round - bam
2011 vs Buffalo 1st round - boom
2015 vs Detroit 1st round - ho-ha

score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock

but I'm pretty sure the Blackhawks and their fans were feeling very good about themselves at times last year against LA.

Speaking of LA -- if San Jose never gets rid of Matt Lights Out, It's Game 7 Carle... they never blow that series lead folks.

that Cooper, Stamkos et al have probably been asked about the Rangers and Henrik in Game 7s about 672 times in the last 2 days...they're responses probably reflect getting a little annoyed by it

In comment 12306172 pjcas18 said:

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score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock

Caps scored first in Game 7

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In comment 12306172 pjcas18 said: Quote: score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock Caps scored first in Game 7

so the odds are even higher it won't happen again. if I remember my hungover stats class lessons which is not likely

In comment 12306193 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12306184 Giants2012 so the odds are even higher it won't happen again. if I remember my hungover stats class lessons which is not likely

Touche, good one :)

I like it

In comment 12306193 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12306184 Giants2012 said: Quote: In comment 12306172 pjcas18 said: Quote: score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock Caps scored first in Game 7 so the odds are even higher it won't happen again. if I remember my hungover stats class lessons which is not likely

You remember incorrectly because they are independent events.

Your point is completely irrelevent. Bravo!

In comment 12306197 Greg from LI said:

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Your point is completely irrelevent. Bravo!

Might as well have been, there were tons of Caps fans there.

At least I assume that's what people in McDonagh jerseys were... Certainly can't be Rangers fans.

In comment 12306196 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 12306193 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 12306184 Giants2012 said: Quote: In comment 12306172 pjcas18 said: Quote: score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock Caps scored first in Game 7 so the odds are even higher it won't happen again. if I remember my hungover stats class lessons which is not likely You remember incorrectly because they are independent events.

if you say so pointdexter. just score first and don't worry about it.

The Great One..

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Wayne Gretzky was on The Dan Patrick Show this morning and said that he thinks the Rangers will beat Tampa Bay tonight in Game 7. He added, �I think the Rangers over the last two years have proven to be one of the most resilient teams in hockey. Every time you think they are down they come storming back. Brian Leetch used to say when we played together that there is nothing better than a Friday night at the Garden. The Garden will be rocking tonight. I anticipate a great game and you play all year to have home ice and because of that I think the Rangers will win in a squeaker.�

has gretzky been right about anything in 25 years?

the only issue i have with his comments is we've been a better road team than home one for a few years now. Most years with Hank in net actually.

One of those oddities - but 17 goals in Amalie in 3 games, just 4 in 3 games at MSG... i'm not sure that's a fluke. Some teams are just more comfortable on the road - and conversely a young, inexperienced team like Tampa seemed to choke a little in front of their home fans this entire postseason.

In comment 12306203 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12306196 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: In comment 12306193 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 12306184 Giants2012 said: Quote: In comment 12306172 pjcas18 said: Quote: score first at home in game 7, I'm no stats-geek, but it's a virtual lock Caps scored first in Game 7 so the odds are even higher it won't happen again. if I remember my hungover stats class lessons which is not likely You remember incorrectly because they are independent events. if you say so pointdexter. just score first and don't worry about it.

It's actually poindexter, not pointdexter.

YW.

I thought Brassard's reasoning for why the Rangers were looser and better on the road at times was a little strange.. he said he thought it stemmed from trying to do too much to excite the crowd at home and basically appease the fans. I mean, I guess I understand it.. but at this level in games like this I don't know how that would even be on anyone's mind much.

It didn't make sense because it didn't look like they had any jump after the first ten minutes in game five.

True BBI diehards know that it's Point Dexter. What are you, some kind of pre-madonna?

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In comment 12306266 Greg from LI said:

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True BBI diehards know that it's Point Dexter. What are you, some kind of pre-madonna?

I must not have been around then?

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I got a seat for you.

I think you were about 6 years old when that was a thing.

In comment 12306266 Greg from LI said:

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True BBI diehards know that it's Point Dexter. What are you, some kind of pre-madonna?

I think it's a mute point at this juncture...

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I think you were about 6 years old when that was a thing.

So, 2007?

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....and that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight. One game; if we played them ten times, they might win nine. But not this game, not tonight. Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight we stay with them, and we shut them down because we can. Tonight, we are the greatest hockey team in the world. You were born to be hockey players - every one of you, and you were meant to be here tonight. This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Lightning have. Screw 'em. This is your time. Now go out there and take it!

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GDI.

Tanner Glass scores a big goal tonight. Hell yeah.

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I heard Valiquette on the radio yesterday and he said the Lightning might leave Rangers open in certain spots, to try to induce them into taking more of the type of shots that Bishop has literally never missed in this series (80 for 80), i.e., the unobstructed, undeflected shot from the point. Interesting, but I hope we have a constant stream of guys going to the net and it�s not an issue. Can�t have Nash taking those lazy ones from the top of the left circle.

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In comment 12306397 Greg from LI said:

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from the BSB comments: Quote: I heard Valiquette on the radio yesterday and he said the Lightning might leave Rangers open in certain spots, to try to induce them into taking more of the type of shots that Bishop has literally never missed in this series (80 for 80), i.e., the unobstructed, undeflected shot from the point. Interesting, but I hope we have a constant stream of guys going to the net and it�s not an issue. Can�t have Nash taking those lazy ones from the top of the left circle.

I'll take that shot every time. Keep it hard and low and send people in for rebounds.

It's not like the NBA where you can play the zone and impair the ability to penetrate the paint, forcing them to take 3's all game. Especially with a guy like Bishop who gives up fat rebounds. It only takes one guy (Kreider) to obstruct his view and cause issues.

It strikes me as one of those general statements that means nothing (forecheck hard, don't make stupid turnovers, etc.).

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I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate. #lolchess

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or a Bishop and a Knight, but a Bishop by itself cannot.

Longest fucking day ever.

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Longest fucking day ever.

Still 3.5 hrs before the puck hits the ice.

Time enough to kill some hookers at least.

But, then, they were 0-2 in games where he sang, so that's probably for the best.

I need a damn beer.

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Longest fucking day ever.

seriously.

I'm going to body paint myself red and blue and run through Time Square naked. I'm very confident my public exhibition will not occur in this spatial plane.

An early lead.

Let's win this for Giacomin, Tkaczuk, Gilbert and the GAG Line, and all of the fans of the Rangers for long these many years.

Good luck everyone!

So nervous and excited.

good luck Rangers fans (and the Lightning fan).

I envy all of you, but at the same time I don't envy having puke in my mouth for the next 2 and a half hours of a game 7.

hopefully I will next year.

What time is the actual puck drop tonight?

About 8:10, Mike

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I need a damn beer.

I recommend Devil's Backbone Vienna Lager, if you can find it up there. That's what I'm drinking tonight.

Who's out?

This last hour has been so slow

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Who's out?

No one

Well, most of you.



Some of you.



A few of you.



Very few of you. But thanks for joining me on this Ranger voyage

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In comment 12306789 RDJR said: Quote: Who's out? Ok. Pre game skate. My bad. No one

but tonight I'm proud to call all of you ... except fucking Ben... my Brothers. Let's go do this people.

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Who's out?

John Moore? Steve Eminger?

Forecheck, forecheck, forecheck!!!

No penalties!

Pressure on the puck and they will fold.

Once the Rangers lost. They are not allowed to lose.

That's all. Just do it.

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get it done. Don't care how, just make sure we're playing game 1 on Wednesday night

about the officiating yet. LOL.

seriously, i'm out, I won't post during the game.

have fun.

for the second time in one season at MSG.

LGR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP MY DREAMS ALIVE, LET'S GO BABY, DO IT
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Let's go Rangers!!!! Let's finish these assholes. In Hank we Trust!

Just go out and win a hockey game, boys!!

Hunwick in. 7 d-men for tonight

Let's fucking go!!!!!!

"@HartnettHockey: For #NYR, Matt Hunwick is the lineup. James Sheppard is out. Sheppard did skate on the fourth line during warmups. AV going with 7 D.�

Thought so.

suggests to me that McDonagh is not 100%. We never play 7.


AND NOW MCDONAGH IS IN THE LOCKERROOM. FUCK

not on the bench, ugh

WTF happened???

was there an issue with McD?

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was there an issue with McD?

He didnt skate yesterday. He must be hurt/sick.

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was there an issue with McD?

AV had to know he was really banged up and hurting. No other reason to bring in the 7th D

with McDonagh.

Wonder if he's sick, because if he was hurt wouldn't you just rule him out and keep Sheppard on?

Costing us a player.

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In comment 12306808 Anakim said: Quote: My bad. Good pickup In comment 12306789 RDJR said: Quote: Who's out? Ok. Pre game skate. My bad. No one

My bad. Good pickup, RD

Can someone please post if there is definitive word about McD.
Thanks

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with McDonagh. Wonder if he's sick, because if he was hurt wouldn't you just rule him out and keep Sheppard on?

Didn't they say that TB had a flu going around? Well maybe they fucking breathed on him.

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Costing us a player.

I had the same thought but you have to believe AV knows what he's doing.

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Can someone please post if there is definitive word about McD. Thanks

back on the bench. Im wildly speculating that he needed fluids, since he never took a shift (how could he get hurt?)

Hope is alright and not going to hurt us out there.

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too much stress

What a save by Henrik.

get more puck control. We're not moving the puck well

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By the same token, wouldn't they know if he was dehydrated before he came out to skate two minutes before the game? If he can't last that long, what good will he be for us?

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get more puck control. We're not moving the puck well

Yup, no real sustained pressure either. Too much of the game is being played in front of Hank.

... but either way, Rangers need to get some jump into their game ... if they have to play without McD, then do it ... but start getting some pressure!

Let's FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to get the puck deep and cycle. Make them play D!

Lightning doing a nice job limiting our zone time.

not gonna score from the outside

We haven't had a shot in 8+ mins. Thats not going to cut it.

wtf!!!!!!!!!

regroup at intermission, last 10 minutes were terrible but it's 0-0.

They have to play MUCH better if they want to win this game. Essentially 0 offense for half a period.

... Rangers need to get their shit together

(for me) loved the intensity. schuster is awful, that's the weal link, expose that if I'm the Rangers

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they really only had one great scoring chance to none for us, but hard to generate much when 2/3 of the period is in your zone.

Hope McD is alright. He was back out there but tough to tell if he's OK or not.

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Not as bad IMO.

It's still 0-0, no amazing chances for TB, and no penalties.

Come out flying and take advantage of the long change.

The middle of the ice is wide open coming out of the zone. Make their D pay for being aggressive.

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Lets up they can flip the script.

TB won a lot of those battles in our own end that period.

as much as we all hate Cooper - like Harbaugh - he's a good coach. Have to see if they'll pinch as much in the 2nd period first before you start throwing the puck to the middle of the ice.

And Hagelin - cmon - its game 7 and you're a pro... when the D puts it on your tape, you've got to have that bro.

Into a track meet

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Agreed. But the lack of offense is similar.

started to control the boards a little, but the Rangers will adjust. Need to get shots on Bishop though there is opportunities to feast on rebounds. I don't dislike the Idea of double shifting Nash on the 4th line here and there either, Glass is useless, but Moore can make some plays with Nash I'd think.

whereas we're further away. Need to reclaim the space between the dots in the offensive zone. Never gonna score from the boards.

TB controlled the puck most of the 1st. We can't keep shooting the puck up the boards to get it out.That's what TB is in position to stop. LGR!!!

I really hope this 11 offensive forwards move doesn't fuck up our flow all night. We didn't practice it much during the season, that's for sure. I guess AV had to do it with who knows what's up with McD -- I just love how they whine for 3 days about the flu and most likely we're the one playing with it tonight. Figures.

did what they wanted to do. Weather the storm by playing defense and don't give up the early goal. I expect more play in the Tampa end in the second period.

he thought McD might have been having his shoulder taped.

name much recently

leads to the PP

let's go

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This is a huge powerplay.

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But he got hooked. Let's get the PP going!!

lets hope puck do lie

Expect a makeup

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Yup. Got lucky there...need to take advantage of the situation though.

Not the type of PP we were looking for.

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had about 7 guys on the ice when they played the puck

not another power play

this time

Need to capitalize right here.

needs to step up here

hell, the whole fucking team except Hank looks sick... C'mon boys, put one in here

the PP.

that might be the single best playing of the puck in Hank's career. Im flabbergasted.

Not the least they are going to get a call soon

is just terrible. Get fucking spacing and stay onsides

Needs to one time that. Way too slow with the puck on the PP.

Is just a killer,

and then is offsides

got mugged

God damnit

holds it Nash is wide open.

but blueshirts on the other side of that goal

Can't get these types of opportunities in a game 7 and come up empty handed.

Come on Rangers!

I can't think of anything we have done well on the offense side of the ice. Not one thing. Passing sucks, shooting sucks, cycling sucks, decisions suck.

approach of game 6. We are way too cautious out there, tentative. I don't want a track meet either but sometimes you have to trust in yourself and take a calculated chance.

need to score soon.

is dead on ... what a fucking dick sucking asshole

Fantastic on faceoffs.

Come get crisp with those passes

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is dead on ... what a fucking dick sucking asshole

poor choice of words ... sounds gay bashing and I have no problems with gay people whatsoever ... so I amend my post to simply say that Cooper is a fucking asshole!

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Come get crisp with those passes

Not much has been good with this team so far.

Has heartbreaker all over it.

its in-game. We're all nervous as fuck right now.

Cooper is an asshole, but he's an effective asshole. He's done a great job with that young group. Therrion was for MTL last year too.

Is what it is - we need some puck luck.

we're going to score soon

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I feel like it is there for us if we execute, the ice has been open and we have just not executed our passes. If we do, we might win this freaking game

crash the net more and get some ugly goals

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In comment 12306982 nygmen84 said: Quote: In comment 12306980 Essex said: Quote: Come get crisp with those passes Not much has been good with this team so far. I feel like it is there for us if we execute, the ice has been open and we have just not executed our passes. If we do, we might win this freaking game

Agreed. Tampa hasnt been great either, especially in the 2nd. This game is wide open for the taking. Someone just needs to step up and bury one.

And letting Tampa beat them to pucks in our defensive zone. WTF is going on?

and a whew

LGR!

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hopefully just a matchup issue that.... God willing... wont be an issue next round.

over evrytime he gains possession.

gum chewing is grating.

... I want so much for him to do well ... just because of his time in the league and hate to see him go out this way ... but his play is just fucking horrible - can't even complete simple passes

needed to shoot then instead of dumping it in front of the opposing player

Cooper to me isn't as bad as Therrien or ... especially... Sutter

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... I want so much for him to do well ... just because of his time in the league and hate to see him go out this way ... but his play is just fucking horrible - can't even complete simple passes

its absolutely infuriating to watch him out there.

interference?

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behind the blue line there

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behind the blue line there

3

Thank God Hank is on top of his game right now.

was offside I thought

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fucking deserves this. NET ONE FOR HIM BOYS!!!!

deserves this one. Please fucking win the 3rd period

is unreal

on goal is simply not good enough, come on boys

whos going to step up?

STepan? Brassard?

the King is on, but u can't win if u dont score.

score, but TB looks like the better team. They'd be up by a couple but for HL.

in there ... Hank giving them the chance to move on to the finals ... they need to get their legs and energy big time for the 3rd - just pray that going with a 7th defenseman isn't wearing down the forwards

we've scored 3 goals at home... twice ... this entire postseason. And one was in garbage time.

The boys are just way too tentative on home ice or something -- leave it all out there guys. I feel like if we lose tonight, these guys cant go home and say "I gave it everything I had"

I know there's another fucking gear. LETS GO.

Henrik the win, Bishop can be had, EASILY

And 4 at MSG, we should have forfeited home ice (only half kidding)

from the point are key, they just aren't shooting enough. TB is controlling play, but it may only take 1 to win this thing. Fire pucks at Bishop.

Need to hear the MSG goal horn.... multiple times.

Kreider with 2 goals.

But no clear shots -- too much delay after getting a pass. More muscle needed in front.

Last period here. Wake up!

I thought we'd be flying tonight with tough checking. We look slow,our passing has been abysmal and God forbid we finish our checks. Hank deserves better. I think we might be better with Hunwick then McD out there. Ryan looks terrible.

Needs some minutes in the early third period.

Both 27 and 5 look like they are playing in quicksand.

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we've scored 3 goals at home... twice ... this entire postseason. And one was in garbage time. The boys are just way too tentative on home ice or something -- leave it all out there guys. I feel like if we lose tonight, these guys cant go home and say "I gave it everything I had" I know there's another fucking gear. LETS GO.

I don't know about that, if this team didn't give it everything it had we would have been home already with 4 elimination games. The team is trying, sometimes you don't play well and sometimes your opponent does a good job. Every game we have won this series, Tampa has responded. Call Cooper Harbaugh or whatever you want, he seems like a fine coach.

But we need the puck more and there's gotta be more pressure. Hank playing like his typical self, get him a goal!

"save us Henrik" game...but I still like our chances in a match like this

Announcers said it well, Rangers being too deliberate and waiting too long on offense, just have to let it rip. Some better chances late in the 2nd, someone has to step up and bury one

It's his time. He's been too quiet in this series.

no makeup call for the BS penalty earlier, stays 5v5 you have to like the Rangers chances. Henrik in the zone.

Dan Boyle time.

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It's his time. He's been too quiet in this series.

+1 It's time for Stepan to step up!

has to stop those bad give aways too

In comment 12307052 pjcas18 said:

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no makeup call for the BS penalty earlier, stays 5v5 you have to like the Rangers chances. Henrik in the zone.

Yeah, that first one was BS. Was the hit on Kreider clean? Looked like he stuck out an elbow but they never showed a replay here.

they feel the need to "even things up" in the 3rd period of a game 7

Let's find the back of the net, Rangers!

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I don't question for a second this team's heart.

But they are way too deliberate and tentative out there tonight. We didn't see this in Tampa. Guys are thinking way too much - just go out there and give it everything you have.

If they win, they win. Fuck it, it's been a great series. Lets leave with our heads held high.

OF course.... its Rangers to have McD with the flu or something for a game 7 while Tampa trots in complete healthy. Callahan completely healthy after missing or playing with how many torn labrums for us.

You don't have 1 title in 76 years without a fuckload of bad luck. Hopefully we can overcome yet more tonight.

Let's go boys.

In comment 12307060 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 12307052 pjcas18 said: Quote: no makeup call for the BS penalty earlier, stays 5v5 you have to like the Rangers chances. Henrik in the zone. Yeah, that first one was BS. Was the hit on Kreider clean? Looked like he stuck out an elbow but they never showed a replay here.

looked shoulder real time. hard to say, only saw one replay. and that's something else to look for. you guys know him better than me, but Kreider is not someone who likes to be hit, I wouldn't be shocked to see him go out of his way for a retaliation against Carle.

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NO!

I didn't have a great angle on it.

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in pre-game warmups? Doesn't explain him missing the first 12 minutes or so of the game.

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stands on his head then gives that goal up. FUCK

we HAVE to step it up

A soft fucking goal.

!!!!!

Damnit

really hurts, ugh

Wow.

he deserves better. We have to get this back - season cant end on such a weak goal. Just cant.

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When you play with 0 urgency and sit back in an elimination game. Zero offense.

and pathetic effort by Moore on that. No physicality at all. Let him walk right in.

all those great saves, he lets one go right through his legs. But it's not insurmountable. Let's go.

Thats just terrible.

we're just going thru the motions.

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we're just going thru the motions.

Yup, I wonder if the team realizes its game 7. Doesn't look like it.

we actually had a quality chance? This is so frustrating from game to game

Almost 2 games, I would even dare to say we haven't even gotten a real quality chance in either game

I've never seen this team play so poorly in an elimination game.

I could stop the shots he's had to. I can't believe we've played like this.

Just has to be. This isn't a November regular season game

lose this game. Come on please someone make a fucking play.

We look like Tampa did in game 7 against Detroit, except they got a bounce on one of their 16 shots on goal and won.

Throw away Nash's irrelevant game 2 goal against Pittsburgh.... 15 regulation goals in 11 games. I'm stunned at that ineptitude.

MAF, Holtby and Bishop in net too. It's not like we're facing Brodeur or Hasek.

energy and urgency on the offensive end. Nothing coordinated.

pucks at the net and hope for rebounds to end up at the right stick

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lose this game. Come on please someone make a fucking play. We look like Tampa did in game 7 against Detroit, except they got a bounce on one of their 16 shots on goal and won.

Losing 3 games at home would be absolutely devastating. Just completely unacceptable.

very disappointing. Playing to not lose.

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very disappointing. Playing to not lose.

well they are losing now. time to go all out

deserves so much better than this. They can't let that one fucking goal ruin this season, it's not fair to him. Someone on the rest of the fucking team needs to do something.

Too many pucks just slide out of the offensive zone. Can't afford that now.

give away

they kept losing possessions

we aren't gettin any bodies in front of him

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Too bad it took 50 minutes to generate.

I will never understand.

I thought we had one there

has to bury one of these. Nut up

How the fuck are they letting themselves be shut out?

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I will never understand.

You haven't bashed cooper, but the guy has coached a phenomenal series, his team has come back on the road after getting tattooed twice at home. That isn't by luck.

keep pressuring Bishop. He's bound to crack.

They are at least generating chances now. Keep it up and they'll bury one!

with guys getting hogtied in front.

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keep pressuring Bishop. He's bound to crack.

Time is the enemy. Thats why it's absolutely terrible when it takes 50 or so minutes to start generating legit opportunities.

Just an awful performance.

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do we not have anyone on the blue line there

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It's unbelievable that we've turned tampa into a defensive Juggernaut.

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Solid effort at home yet again. Play our asses off to get home ice and end up dropping 3 of 4 in this series, two of which we can't even score in. Ugh!

from the other night

along the boards?

Everyone but Henrik deserves to lose this game. They have 3 shots in this period and 2 goals.

This one is going to hurt for a while, years if Henrik never gets one. This was a golden chance and losing 3 of 4 on our home ice is going to cost us a potential stanley cup.

Damn.

There is to it.

I respect Martin St. Louis accomplishment in this league, but if he ever wears a ranger uniform again, I will throw up

This team was not prepared for this game or the strategy was pitiful. Eithet way, he got absolutely worked by Cooper tonight.

Very few shots on goal.They are more sound defensively they we are.

OVER

SEASON OVER

a power play

Tampa will only get better. This might have been our last shot to get Henrik a cup.

outshot Tampa 31-16 in game 7 in Tampa. Tampa gave up one big opportunity after another in that game and tonight we look like tampa did in that game. Awful.

are playing small. Being totally outplayed.

My you rot in hell dad you piece of shit.

Let me just say, fuck each and every one of you for rooting for these losers. Fucking bitch Bishop dancing on our home ice? Giants. PROUD. Yankees. PROUD. Rangers. That mongoloid kid that you are ashamed of!!!

but had a bad feeling about this game and am not surprised. TB a better defensive team and just the better team overall.

They don't deserve to advance.

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a power play

Why? They failed miserably twice already. It ain't going to make a difference.

this is on the players. Period. Our offensive guys completely no showed.

Derek Stepan thinks the series ended after game 1

realistically has one more run at it.

Tampa and NYI are only going to get better and eventually Pittsburgh will figure out how to compliment two generational talents. Time is running out quickly.

You cant score 15 goals in 11 games on home ice and expect to win a trophy. It's going to be a tough offseason of serious soul searching.

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OVER SEASON OVER

Just like my dad's life. My he rot for making me a fan of this team.

And secondly, fuck arc.

the Dolans!

Everyone is on the same page. This is boring. i guess I will just go now...lol

much over now I would think. Good season.

Marty St Louis or Marty St Louis' dead mother?

at "good season"

This season can be described in one word. Failure.

shutouts on home ice?

Game 1 - I have work. NYR wins.

Game 2 - I watch. They lose.

Game 3 - I watch. They lose.

Game 4 - I purposefully don't watch and we win.

Game 5 - I watch. We lose.

Game 6 - Facing elimination, I take one for the team and we win.

Game 7 - I can't not watch. My selfishness cost us and worse, it cost Hank. I'm so sorry guys.

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Marty St Louis or Marty St Louis' dead mother?

fucking scumbag.

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outshot Tampa 31-16 in game 7 in Tampa. Tampa gave up one big opportunity after another in that game and tonight we look like tampa did in that game. Awful.

So what are you saying? We were unlucky tonight?

More like fucking loser season...

is Mark Messier human? appreciate everything he did for us.

Lundqvist should just go to Anahiem or something

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In comment 12307167 DesmondsFaith1 said: Quote: Marty St Louis or Marty St Louis' dead mother? fucking scumbag.

Eh. Score is still 2-0. I have every right to say whatever I feel.

Every single player was disappointing and came uo extremely small.

Eat a dick you fucking little bitch

from everyone except Henrik. Complete no-show in a Game 7. I am speechless.

7 full periods of play at home without a goal. Last goal was 14:17 of period 2, game 2.

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In comment 12307154 MookGiants said: Quote: outshot Tampa 31-16 in game 7 in Tampa. Tampa gave up one big opportunity after another in that game and tonight we look like tampa did in that game. Awful. So what are you saying? We were unlucky tonight?

Nope. They were lucky in that game.

We got our asses kicked tonight. Scoreboard doesn't begin to describe how bad it was.

Wish the scoreboard reflected that in the detroit-tampa game 7, but them the breaks.

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Eat a dick you fucking little bitch

Just ignore him and he will go away. Trolls need attention.

eating a dick, literally is better than being a fan of this team. I am jealous of the gay community.

In comment 12307159 nygmen84 said:

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In comment 12307152 pjcas18 said: Quote: a power play Why? They failed miserably twice already. It ain't going to make a difference.

trust me, at this point in the game the worst thing TB could do, short of than giving up a regular strength goal is take a penalty, total momentum change

In comment 12307175 DesmondsFaith1 said:

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In comment 12307172 Jon in NYC said: Quote: In comment 12307167 DesmondsFaith1 said: Quote: Marty St Louis or Marty St Louis' dead mother? fucking scumbag. Eh. Score is still 2-0. I have every right to say whatever I feel.

So you create an account on here ten minutes ago just to come on and be a douche. Cool bro 👍

Move on but they would get drilled against Anaheim or Chicago anyway. Let Tampa take the beating

I don't know if a healthy Zucc or McD would have been the difference... but when you factor in regular season, they owned us. 7-3 overall, 5-1 at MSG.

There will be serious soul searching for this organization in the offseason because Sather went all in on the now and bottom line is this group doesn't have enough elite talent up front to win Hank a Cup. We *might* get one more run at it before its over... maybe... but you've got to be realistic and not end up selling all your assets when its too late.

The fucking cockroaches who haven't been on Rangers threads all year show up to piss and moan. Fuck off, shitbirds.

they played badly tonight, except for HL. But they got to game seven of the conference finals, so it was a good season.

Literally gave themselves no chance to win. Not acceptable.

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Move on but they would get drilled against Anaheim or Chicago anyway. Let Tampa take the beating

Go fuck yourself. Yeah, Anaheim would have drilled them, the team that got smashed both times by the Rangers this year

!!!!!!!!!!!


and bullshit I come on here and tell it like it is,

He is passionate

Unlike the rest of most of you homos who bark about being mature and doing stupid gay shit like having kids...We need more like him.

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they played badly tonight, except for HL. But they got to game seven of the conference finals, so it was a good season.

No, it wasn't.

It was a failure of a season.

I will never at any point consider this season a "good season"

Every time I think about it, I will have a bad taste in my mouth.

this no show at home was not a surprise

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the zone

and for AV too. 3 Presidents Trophies now in 5 years for him and he doesn't have a god damn thing to show for it.

Whatever the preparation and plan was for home games in the playoffs was absolutely terrible. We looked extremely flat and he made 0 adjustments tonight.

be the second sweetest moment of my life as a sports fan (07 SB the other). I'm really hoping this isn't our last best shot. Whether Zuccs can come back healthy and if we can replace Stl with Buchenevich and upgrade will likely be important

In comment 12307192 MookGiants said:

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In comment 12307186 GeneInCal said: Quote: Move on but they would get drilled against Anaheim or Chicago anyway. Let Tampa take the beating Go fuck yourself. Yeah, Anaheim would have drilled them, the team that got smashed both times by the Rangers this year

In January? Ok.

cant do shit with a 6 v 5

and does anyone give a shit about Anaheim anyway? Congrats on getting on national TV for the first time all season last sunday (and losing). Must have been fun.

I'll be a cunt

the bigger Cunts are the Rangers on the ice doing the same thing they've done every year since 1940...except 1994, Messier is more of a hero than my dad!

see Marty anymore.

unbelievable!

In comment 12307204 GeneInCal said:

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In comment 12307192 MookGiants said: Quote: In comment 12307186 GeneInCal said: Quote: Move on but they would get drilled against Anaheim or Chicago anyway. Let Tampa take the beating Go fuck yourself. Yeah, Anaheim would have drilled them, the team that got smashed both times by the Rangers this year In January? Ok.

Hockey doesn't count in January?

Let's see.

Rangers more points in the regular season. Rangers in by far the tougher conference. Rangers smash them both times.

Get fucking lost.

else and be the racist piece of shit that you are, Gene

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see Marty anymore.

Not the first time we said that about a St Louis in the past 15 months...

and go on Facebook and every social media the Rangers giving everyone what they want

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see Marty anymore.

You just knew this would blow up on us. Our GMs just cant help themselves with the shiny. Watch in a week or two they'll come up with some bullshit injury excuse and then he'll get re-signed.

We need to get younger.

I'm just speechless. Numb. This one is going to leave a bitter taste in all of our mouths for a while.

It's been fun agonizing through this run with you.

Hockey is a great game, but it sure does cause a lot of sadness on the way out.

See ya next season.

no bitter taste.

It was a "good" season

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and does anyone give a shit about Anaheim anyway? Congrats on getting on national TV for the first time all season last sunday (and losing). Must have been fun.

Yes. Because west coast teams always play games at 9 am.

that Eli Manning and Super Bowl 42 was playing, lol. Maybe it's an omen. I can't wait for football so i can school ya'll niggaz on football.

Just absolutely terrible. Can't believe how bad this team was at home in this series. Shutout TWICE by Ben fucking Bishop at home. That's just embarrassing enough.

Will beatty is hurt. Fuck that fat useless fuck.

like this. You knew if they kept playing game 7s someone would eventually get their number. Fuck.

rooting for Blackhawks the rest of the way

don't give a shit how much he's paid, my heart breaks for him.

This sucks.

For next season. This will sting for awhile. But we have to come back strong. Hockey has a short off season. Let's bring it home next year

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games ... I mean how do you get shut out in a game 7 in MSG? HOW????????

They crashed and burned 5 wins short of the Cup instead of 3. Fucking Tampa.

and told the gambler in my office that Tampa +145 was a steal.

But this is a disgusting way to lose a season. Fucking shut out twice in a row on home ice. I cant even thing of a Ranger who played all that well. I guess Hank made just one real mistake, but it was a doozy.


But whatever. It was a really fun season. A lot better than a 6 seed and a round 1 loss like we used to do.

But Martin St. Louis and AV were atrocious throughout the series. AV made very little adjustments and St. Louis was just atrocious for most of the year. If St. Louis gets re-signed, even for the vet min., Sather should be hit with a chair.

its just that no one gives a shit about "The Los Angeles (Anehaim) XX of YYY"

Sorry... if you guys win, enjoy your parade through the parking lot .... or Disneyland (even DL is a piece of shit... Disney World is actually a tourist destination)

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else and be the racist piece of shit that you are, Gene

fuck you twerp. You're an emotionally unstable loser. Get some fresh air.

how underwhelming of a SC participant.

No way this team played so unmotivated and poorly during a game 7??

I'll watch even a second the rest of the way. Don't want anything to remind me of this.

for the Blackhawks going forward. I'd like to see Toews win a third ring and be this era's Yzerman.

I don't think the takeaway is that our window's closed. But it's clear that without Zuccs and the anchor that is Stl, we go cold. We need another offensive difference maker. Not a star but certainly someone who can add a spark.

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how underwhelming of a SC participant.

This is nonsense.

They're very good. Not underwhelming at all. We didn't lose to Tokarski lead Montreal here.

Doesn't make it hurt any less, but they're damn good, and kicked our ass in MSG all year.

So frustrating.

but you cant win with zero goals

Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight.

Does he realize he can make in game adjustments?

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Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight.

+1

Is there anything more embarrassed you are in your life than being an NY Rangers fan?

you all are cool... well except for this douchebag. Likely the same guy as Sodapop and McDonaugh27. I don't think 3 different people could be that much of an asshole...

Sodapop was the one that talked so much shit when the Isles lost to the Caps. To you I say "FUCK YOU DICKHEAD!!!!"

Enjoy it, you schmucks, because you're not getting back there next year and the Buccaneers are sure as hell not going to sniff the Super Bowl. Jameis Winston will bust. Enjoy it while it lasts

because he's got a fork in him. He's old as shit.

He should have been benched, that's on AV and Sather. He's had a fork in his back basically the entire year.

a shame for Hank. Fucking guy deserved more then then that shit show the team put on. I can't even remember a decent scoring opportunity.

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Enjoy it, you schmucks, because you're not getting back there next year and the Buccaneers are sure as hell not going to sniff the Super Bowl. Jameis Winston will bust. Enjoy it while it lasts

Anak, stop it. They have a better chance to get back next year than the Rangers do. They were better than us, it hurts, but they were. And they will be going forward, doesn't mean we can't beat them in a series, but it will not get any easier, only more difficult

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Enjoy it, you schmucks, because you're not getting back there next year and the Buccaneers are sure as hell not going to sniff the Super Bowl. Jameis Winston will bust. Enjoy it while it lasts

Yes, I will enjoy watching TB get hammered into dust by CHI/ANA. They never should've made it past DET.

the gambling lines made no sense whatsoever tonight. They don't pay attention like we do I guess, but Tampa at 4-1 at MSG this year and carrying play through most of the series should have made it -120 NYR, even TBL at the very worst.

This team showed a lot of heart getting back in this series. We have all offseason to talk about adjustments - but man, I don't think this core group recovers from these past two years.

It's not a young group. I wanted Hank to win like no NYC athlete I can ever recall - I just don't think he has the necessary horses around him.

Going to be a huge offseason.

but the faggots they played weren't either, lol.

God, being a fan of this garbage franchise is something, aint it?

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a shame for Hank. Fucking guy deserved more then then that shit show the team put on. I can't even remember a decent scoring opportunity.

point is valid but he also cant give up the easy soft goal he did to open the scoring for them

the soft goal Hank gave up turned the tide. The first goal was going to win that game.

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Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight.

Why on God's earth would you hate St Louis? From everything I can see he's a great leader and loved by his teammates. He's 40 years old and can't play any more. That isn't his fault. It isn't as though he hasn't wanted to win. Or hasn't tried. And I hated the trade. I was vocal against the trade. But I sure as fuck don't hate MSL. I feel sad for him. And for the team.

that Tampa shouldn't have made it past Detroit, but they did and they deserved to beat us this series. It sucks, but it's the truth.

On your way to a cup you need to win a series you probably shouldn't have. Tampa won that series against Detroit.

Hurts like hell, but I can't say they didn't deserve this series. They did. I don't know how our guys look Henrik in the face in the locker room. They robbed him. Disgraceful effort by them.

The Rangers do not score enough goals in the playoffs to get the job done. No matter how great Henrik is, or how stacked the defense is, or how great the offense looks on paper, the goals just dry up.

This wasn't just a few games where he's been horrible; it was the entire playoffs.

Moreover his issues were clearly physical. He looked gassed, weak on the puck, easily dispossessed. He singlehandedly made us into a three line team.

But sorry, fellas. You had a helluva year; not just surviving but winning despite Henrik's injury earlier in the year and then getting on that tear since January was impressive. Don't hang your heads. Hockey in NY is gonna be fun for a while. It was fun interacting with you and am looking forward to next season. See you on the board.

Really worried that the window is closing/closed for a great core of Rangers. And fuck MSL. I'm sure he's got the yacht gassed up and ready to hit the Greenwich waterfront.

But let's face it, the team we saw in the regular season only showed up a few times in the playoffs. By and large we played mediocre hockey in the post season. We could barely score against AHL defenseman on Pittsburgh. We played a terrible first four games against the caps and got shut out TWICE at home after scoring 17 goals in Tampa. this team didn't deserve a cup and they are not getting one. The most I can say is that I am much more bullish about our future than MAB and others on here. We will get one.

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In comment 12307250 Giantfootball025 said: Quote: a shame for Hank. Fucking guy deserved more then then that shit show the team put on. I can't even remember a decent scoring opportunity. point is valid but he also cant give up the easy soft goal he did to open the scoring for them

It didn't matter, we weren't scoring in this game. He had a bad one, but he's allowed that. Pick him up from that, or hell get a fucking lead first!

To play like that in games 5 and 7 at MSG will haunt Rangers fans for decades if Henrik never wins a cup.

Marino, Randall Cunningham, Carl Malone

Plus he's rich

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Fuck them. Fuck those pieces of shit. Once we rid ourselves of St. Louis and get Zucc back, then they can fucking stick out their chests. Until then, the Lightning can go fuck themselves, especially Callahan, Boyle and Stralman.

end up being this half decade's version of the early 00's Leafs or late 00's Sharks.

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This wasn't just a few games where he's been horrible; it was the entire playoffs. Moreover his issues were clearly physical. He looked gassed, weak on the puck, easily dispossessed. He singlehandedly made us into a three line team.

Tell it to Sather, AV, Seth, and every poster that ignored Yzerman's clear indication that MSL was shot late last year. Steve is headed to the SCFs while MSL forced himself off the team for quality of life reasons

Are 2 of the greatest Rangers fans going. Both are wiped out, I am sure. Small solace now but they can punch through next year and win it. It hurts, sure. Like the Giants in 89 hurt.

right that one of Bishop, Crawford, or Frederick fucking Andersen will win a cup this year. Crawford could potentially have 3 cups (2 as a starter). Corey Crawford on his best day couldn't wipe Henrik's ass.

Ugh, this is getting worse by the minute. I hate this so much for Henrik. What the fuck does he have to do for this squad to support him in a run?

he gave up over 3 goals a game and his game 3 was a horse's ass. Tonight's first goal was a joke. A complete joke.

I love Hank, always be my favorite Ranger ever, and he should have won a Cup here... but I felt a lot sorrier for him last year when he kept us in the Kings series only for us to go like 4 OTs in that series without giving him a goal.


It's not just this series people. Unlike last year you can't walk away from this postseason feeling good about it. It was a struggle to score goals with consistency from the get go. Pittsburgh with all their injuries should have been a joke. Washington was a nightmare to go down 1-3 to a team with 3 offensive talents, one of whom we now know played with a bad hip.

IT was a sobering postseason on a lot of levels. They showed heart- this group has since 2012. I don't question it. I do question the talent level in that clubhouse though, and this organization has major major decisions to make this offseason.

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In comment 12307240 Anakim said: Quote: Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight. Why on God's earth would you hate St Louis? From everything I can see he's a great leader and loved by his teammates. He's 40 years old and can't play any more. That isn't his fault. It isn't as though he hasn't wanted to win. Or hasn't tried. And I hated the trade. I was vocal against the trade. But I sure as fuck don't hate MSL. I feel sad for him. And for the team.

He's done. HE'S DONE. FINISHED. He needs to retire. Should've fucking retired midseason, because the guy was an onus for the latter half of the season, including where it mattered most. Again, if Sather re-signs St. Louis for even a penny, I would stick that unlit cigar up his ass. The guy was the biggest...he wasn't even a disappointment; he was a liability out there.

They didn't win a cup so they can suck a fat one...Never watching another game as long as i live

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In comment 12307251 MookGiants said: Quote: In comment 12307247 Anakim said: Quote: Enjoy it, you schmucks, because you're not getting back there next year and the Buccaneers are sure as hell not going to sniff the Super Bowl. Jameis Winston will bust. Enjoy it while it lasts Anak, stop it. They have a better chance to get back next year than the Rangers do. They were better than us, it hurts, but they were. And they will be going forward, doesn't mean we can't beat them in a series, but it will not get any easier, only more difficult Fuck them. Fuck those pieces of shit. Once we rid ourselves of St. Louis and get Zucc back, then they can fucking stick out their chests. Until then, the Lightning can go fuck themselves, especially Callahan, Boyle and Stralman.

You're making a complete fool of yourself. Just stop.

Ryan Callahan is going to the Stanley Cup finals and we have Marty St Louis

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Are 2 of the greatest Rangers fans going. Both are wiped out, I am sure. Small solace now but they can punch through next year and win it. It hurts, sure. Like the Giants in 89 hurt.

What does that even mean? Punch through next year and win it? We said the same thing last year after the Kings beat us. Now we're saying the same thing this year. I just want to fucking win, man.

no, Henrik did not have a great series. But they are also the #1 scoring team in the league.

That first goal sucked, but with probably any other goalie they are up 2, 3-0 after 2 periods. Our guys needed to bail him out from that one goal. One fucking goal should not cost you this game on home ice.

He deserved this game. Played plenty well enough to win it. Our offense gave us zero chance.

one year later

Look on the bright side. At least we finally figured out how to win face offs

No excuses, but we really missed Zucc. And McD was a ghost tonight, whatever was wrong with him

Hats off to Callahan and Stralman - they both played great hockey tonight.

Go Blackhawks. I guess.

Bishop outplayed the King! That and an offense which didn't show up.

Anyone else?

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Bishop outplayed the King! That and an offense which didn't show up.

Bishop had one difficult save to make the entire game.

You could have put 30 different goalies in net tonight and 95% of them are going to pitch a shutout with the shots he faced.

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Bishop outplayed the King! That and an offense which didn't show up.

I don't know how you can say he outplayed him when he let up 17 goals in three games. We had about one or two quality chances over the last two games at the garden. Bishop is not why they won, shutout or not.

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has been great all season and has won approx five out of the last six periods. His comments have been spot on regarding his young team. He deserves a lot more praise than nitpicking ridicule.

Eight out of last nine periods.

Oh, and on earth for the blind mets fella

You fucking faggot, did you even watch the game?

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Bishop outplayed the King! That and an offense which didn't show up.

Bishop wasn't really tested. A fucking AHL goalie would have a similar result tonight. The Lightning just played incredible team defense tonight and gave up very few scoring opportunities.

From an asset and roster management level, Mook hit the nail on the head; inferior goaltenders stop enough pucks to win championships with the marginal benefit of play up front.

Davisian used to question the efficacy of paying your goaltender such a high proportionate share of the cap and its not a poor argument.

In comment 12307283 MookGiants said:

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In comment 12307273 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 12307251 MookGiants said: Quote: In comment 12307247 Anakim said: Quote: Enjoy it, you schmucks, because you're not getting back there next year and the Buccaneers are sure as hell not going to sniff the Super Bowl. Jameis Winston will bust. Enjoy it while it lasts Anak, stop it. They have a better chance to get back next year than the Rangers do. They were better than us, it hurts, but they were. And they will be going forward, doesn't mean we can't beat them in a series, but it will not get any easier, only more difficult Fuck them. Fuck those pieces of shit. Once we rid ourselves of St. Louis and get Zucc back, then they can fucking stick out their chests. Until then, the Lightning can go fuck themselves, especially Callahan, Boyle and Stralman. You're making a complete fool of yourself. Just stop.

At least you have baseball. No sports at night for me until August and preseason football. Two long months

sitting on my couch I think I had only 2 less real high quality scoring chances than the Rangers did.

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No excuses, but we really missed Zucc. And McD was a ghost tonight, whatever was wrong with him

We're fans, not the coaches or players. Losing a top line player for TWO SERIES in the postseason is a dagger. Especially when it was from such a senseless, preventable play - that even a small modicum of thought towards player safety or 21st century technology would have prevented.

Is what it is. The Rangers owners with billions invested don't seem to care, so i'll let it go.

We can finally say that Mark Messier is the greatest thing ever. Did you for one second believe the Rangers would win a Stanley Cup in 2015? Last year was their chance, riding on Marty St Louis dead mother's spirits or whatever.

They continued to get bitched out by the Kings and won some gay president's trophy. We got some useless turds named Yandle and St Louis and Boyle. They're trash the end.

you're not helping. If you're drunk, I suggest you open up a text document and rant there. If you'd like, you can post the contents of that text document tomorrow morning. I'm sure some levity would be much appreciated in the next few days.

Going forward there are a set of questions that will determine whether the window is closed or not:

1. Kreider and Miller's development. By this point I think we know what our center situation is: 2 very good 2nd line level guys in Steps and Brassard. Nash is who he is.

The real question is whether Kreider and Miller can turn into consistently productive scorers in the playoffs. They are the two best power/speed combinations we have and they showed the ability to fight through the muck or fly right past it. Kreider took over games in the Washington series. They're going to have to have to consistently score goals next year.

2. Zuccs's health. Really hoping he can put this concussion behind him and come back good as new. He is one of the few genuinely creative offensive players we have.

3. Buchenevich. He's scored in Russia in the KHL. That's not easy to do for a teenager. The sooner he can come over and make a good transition, the better off we'll be.

4. McD getting back to 2013-4 form. He was a dominant skater. He only flashed that this regular season (perhaps the shoulder) and was making a ton of mistakes during the postseason. When he's playing up to his talent level, he's a dominant skater, the sort you need in the playoffs (see Keith, Doughty).

Bishop didn't have to do much work for the shutout.

Damn fine season, with the Rangers giving me a lot of pleasure. We came up short, but only one team gets to hoist the Cup each year, and what can you do? Good job, guys!

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Bishop outplayed the King! That and an offense which didn't show up.

Further proof that you're Mike Francesa's cousin.

Enough said. If the King did that we would still be playing! Keep dropping low without coming out and you get beat up top all day. Plus bishop isn't eating 8+mil of the salary cap.

i can work circles around you and worked an 18 hour shift on Wednesday at the sawmill.

Who do you think you are talking to me like that? I was Sejong for a pizza the other night and caved in. I can run like 16 miles straight without any help thank you very much.

Signing off,

the Rangers are a joke

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Davisian used to question the efficacy of paying your goaltender such a high proportionate share of the cap and its not a poor argument.

The cap will be 71.5mm next year, up 5-6%. It's going to rise faster when the Canadian dollar rebounds (I do also think the players are getting a raw deal... that's on Fehr). On the list of 10 things holding back the Rangers from winning an elusive Cup... Hank isn't on it.

about this is Tampa was a mediocre road team all year, except at MSG.

This is extremely disappointing but I am used to it. That being said, I loved this year's team. We played great hockey all year and did get this far and now we've been very close for two straight years. I recall too many years (recently) where we didn't even make the playoffs. I tip my cap to TB. They were just better in this series but I still appreciate the enjoyment I got from this year's team. Disappointment is part of being a Rangers fan,unfortunately.
When does football start?

We literally didn't test him. We had 0 offense in two of the last three games. A sack of potatoes with a stick could have done just as well.

is the Patrick Ewing of this generation

cap argument is really an issue. If this roster is healthy and humming they can score enough goals. The problem is a) Zuccs was gone; b) Stl's play dropped precipitously (I mean the dude still scored 50 pts in the regular season).

We're not a total rehaul away, but we do need significant steps forward from a few players I mentioned above.

for St. Louis the Lightning move on and the Rangers hit the golf course.
It WAS a great year for Rangers fans....but the ending sucked.
Hopefully with the infusion of some youth they can make another strong run at The Cup next year.

the team couldn't score any goals

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But he is part of it. Lack of willingness to stand in front of Bishop (no heart) was the bigger problem.

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Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight.

Marty gave it everything he had. From all indications he was one of the hardest working guys on the team in practice throughout the playoffs. He clearly cares a ton. He just doesn't have it any more. Not gonna hold that against him. He was far from the only issue tonight

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for St. Louis the Lightning move on and the Rangers hit the golf course. It WAS a great year for Rangers fans....but the ending sucked. Hopefully with the infusion of some youth they can make another strong run at The Cup next year.

That Cally contract will be an issue. I did not like giving up a high pick along with Cally for Stl. That hurt.

I'll see you on the NHL playoffs thread when the Blackhawks score 64 goals against him

you're a better man than I am.

This season will always hurt for me. I take no positives out of it, this is not a team on the rise. Our time needed to be now. We failed and we failed by losing 3 of 4 at MSG, something we worked for all year.

It sucks, but next year I'll watch all year just waiting for hopefully the playoffs. It's an awful feeling, but that's how I feel.

I'm past the point with this group of really enjoying a run. I enjoyed the 2012 run despite losing, it hurt but i got over it quickly.

This year I never really enjoyed the run. It was all about winning a cup, that's it. It was actually more painful than it was enjoyable even before tonight, but the goal was still there.

Shitty way to look at it as a fan, but with this group and how close we've gotten, it hurts like hell and always will as a fan if we don't get it done in the next couple years.

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You're completely right and it certainly eases the burden going forward. However, did the budgetary constraints influenced by Hank's contract shape some of the poor roster management decisions that we've seen detract from the on-ice performance that's fallen short of the ultimate goal? Did Hank's deal price us out of talent that could have helped us this series?

my concern is injuries are always going to happen and even if those above guys progress (I would also add Hayes into that mix).... other teams are far more talented up front.

"paying the price" doesn't just apply to throwing bodies in front of a net ... franchises have to pay the price to win lotteries and draft generational talents and then build around them. We got lucky with Lundqvist and never really built around those guys.

People talk about the Triplets - who was the best player in this series? A: IT was Stamkos, and there wasn't a close 2nd. We have no one on this roster that's in his stratosphere offensively in terms of talent. That is so so tough to overcome.

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This is extremely disappointing but I am used to it. That being said, I loved this year's team. We played great hockey all year and did get this far and now we've been very close for two straight years. I recall too many years (recently) where we didn't even make the playoffs. I tip my cap to TB. They were just better in this series but I still appreciate the enjoyment I got from this year's team. Disappointment is part of being a Rangers fan,unfortunately. When does football start?

Same here. This team brought me A LOT of enjoyment this year. Didn't miss a single game. One of (if not THE) most enjoyable seasons ever.

We didn't have a player near the crease all night. Kreider was invisible in this series. He has to play better then this for the Rangers to win.

had a broken foot.

I think the team will mostly remain intact, but I have a feeling Sather will make a huge trade to get another offensive weapon (Staal or Girardi is my prediction for who will be gone. Assuming he's ready, Brady Skjei should replace whoever is traded or I wouldn't even mind if we re-sign Hunwick and played him as our #6 D).

I share your disappointment. You were too young to see 1994,right?

between this loss and last vs Kings was no one gave them a shot when they went to the cup. This year we were the favorites and laid a fucking egg. This one hurts more because I consider it underachieving. But the team isn't done yet. The window should still be open for another year or 2.

is because they got shutout like the little cuntholes that they are

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had a broken foot.

GTFO. How did he sustain that? That was the injury? And the dude still played? Kudos to him, but wow.

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Unlikely. There were no FA's who we could've signed but didn't because of cap constraints who could've helped us win this year. The issue is the Rangers did a retrograde build. We got Hank early and he's kept us good for so long that we've never been bad enough to get a high enough pick to get a franchise center. That said, we've developed a lot of excellent young talent. We do regreat McIlrath though.

In one of the few times Anak's been right, picking McIlrath over a Tarasenko, Fowler or Kuznetsov was a huge mistake. Tarasenko by all accounts projected to being a very good sniper (and so he has been). The Cherepanov death goes without saying.

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had a broken foot.

Had one for a few games according to AV. Apparently trainers have been freezing it pregame so he could play. How the hell was he able to even skate with that??

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However, did the budgetary constraints influenced by Hank's contract shape some of the poor roster management decisions that we've seen detract from the on-ice performance that's fallen short of the ultimate goal? Did Hank's deal price us out of talent that could have helped us this series?

No, I actually think its as simple as if Stralman is re-signed, as any idiot knew we needed to do.... then we'd be back in the Finals.

You don't let 29 year old top line D-men walk .... under any circumstances.

I don't hold our GM in high regard. He got lucky with an elite goalie. His track record is below mediocre -- some nice recent wins... yes... but way too many fuck ups too.

Some of you guys really need to feel real pain in life or experience real loss. Holy shit.

Calling people "faggots", insulting each other, and acting like idiots on a message board is completely ridiculous.

Get a grip please.

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my concern is injuries are always going to happen and even if those above guys progress (I would also add Hayes into that mix).... other teams are far more talented up front. "paying the price" doesn't just apply to throwing bodies in front of a net ... franchises have to pay the price to win lotteries and draft generational talents and then build around them. We got lucky with Lundqvist and never really built around those guys. People talk about the Triplets - who was the best player in this series? A: IT was Stamkos, and there wasn't a close 2nd. We have no one on this roster that's in his stratosphere offensively in terms of talent. That is so so tough to overcome.

I agree but I don't think it's fatal. I don't think I'm being overly optimistic, but I think this team has 2 more shots, perhaps three if Hayes, Kreider, and Miller all improve.

That said, I also wouldn't be surprised if we fall into the middle of the pack in the East.

the absolute idiocy shown by supposed fans after a loss really makes me question why the fuck I hang around some of these fuckwads.

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In comment 12307337 MookGiants said: Quote: had a broken foot. GTFO. How did he sustain that? That was the injury? And the dude still played? Kudos to him, but wow.

AV just said it on postgame. Said it was broken the last couple of games. Had to go in during first because it wasn't frozen enough.

but goddamn, that is serious toughness. I'm hoping a fully healthy McD next year returns to being a dominant two-way player. He's got that talent.

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I share your disappointment. You were too young to see 1994,right?

Not too young to see it, I watched every game. Went to a bunch of them in that playoffs. But as a 7 year old, your disappointment over potentially losing lasts maybe an hour or two and then you go to bed. Hockey and baseball were the 2 sports as a kid that i loved to watch. I remember my mom regularly calling the cable company bitching about the game not being shown on MSG, I had no idea why it wouldnt be on and would complain.

I enjoyed 1994, but only as much as a 7 year old could. You don't truly appreciate it like you would now.

It was a great regular season with some good moments in the playoffs. But too often we just didn't bring our best game this postseason, especially on home ice. And it ended us tonight. I don't doubt the effort, but it's hard to leave that game saying we gave them our best shot. We just didn't generate enough.

The time is now for this team. So this hurts like hell. That will continue next season, when they should be good again. But again, the Cup is the only goal. It doesn't really matter what they do next season until the playoffs. And that's a bit tough as a fan, but that's where we're at right now.

Not gonna throw blame at any particular player. Nobody played really well tonight. Just gonna be tough to sit on this one all offseason. Fun talking with you guys through this run

wouldn't have scored 3 goals tonight. I don't know why anyone's shitting on the D they played fine. The forwards sucked today.

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Fuck that, Kyle. You're better than that. This is a motherfucker that has the following documented against him in the past 2 calendar years:

1) Held off of Team Canada by the GM who also happens to be the General Manager of his club hockey team.
2) Brought up to Team Canada via injury, benched and refused meaningful ice time by Mike Babcock, perhaps the most respected coach in the game
3) Threatened the chemistry of the Tampa Bay locker room barring a trade
4) Demands a trade to an intra-conference team that happens to have less points than his own team (clearly not for hockey reasons)
5) Cites the convenience of his and his wife's home in Greenwich to New York as a prime determinant in his desired location

Fuck MSL. I'd rather pay Bobby Holik the money and at least tell myself that he takes pride in wearing a sweater coloured with his adopted national colours rather than watch MSL usurp money, assets, and a productive player's spot from the lineup.

All these pronouncements. They were 20 minutes away from the finals .

No one knew McDonough was playing with a broken foot. I'll bet we'll here soon enough that a few other guys, who didn't play at the expected levels, were also playing hurt. Give this a little time all you experts

With your high and mighty preachy bullshit. There is nothing more targic and significant than losing in sports. What else is there? family? Losing a job? Fuck all that garbage.

My dad died and I didn't feel a thing. When my teams lose, I feel RAGE. The thing that honestly pisses me off is the people that cheer them on and are "proud"...so

why don't YOU take a look at yourself in the mirror and realize there is NOTHING more important than sports. Not my kids, not my fat pudgy ex-wife. Not my girlfriend...

By nature I can't root for you guys but I don't wish pain on you guys either. You had a great season. Seems to be a theme with Rangers in the playoffs with Lundqvist deserved better and stars not scoring. The worst part is that you have to deal with this heckler every thread.

Broken foot? Wow. That's a tough dude right there.

Looking forward to next season. Good luck!!!!

I work 70 hours a day ...Why can't I have some me time for goodness fucking sakes?

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In comment 12307324 Kyle in NY said: Quote: In comment 12307240 Anakim said: Quote: Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight. Marty gave it everything he had. From all indications he was one of the hardest working guys on the team in practice throughout the playoffs. He clearly cares a ton. He just doesn't have it any more. Not gonna hold that against him. He was far from the only issue tonight Fuck that, Kyle. You're better than that. This is a motherfucker that has the following documented against him in the past 2 calendar years: 1) Held off of Team Canada by the GM who also happens to be the General Manager of his club hockey team. 2) Brought up to Team Canada via injury, benched and refused meaningful ice time by Mike Babcock, perhaps the most respected coach in the game 3) Threatened the chemistry of the Tampa Bay locker room barring a trade 4) Demands a trade to an intra-conference team that happens to have less points than his own team (clearly not for hockey reasons) 5) Cites the convenience of his and his wife's home in Greenwich to New York as a prime determinant in his desired location Fuck MSL. I'd rather pay Bobby Holik the money and at least tell myself that he takes pride in wearing a sweater coloured with his adopted national colours rather than watch MSL usurp money, assets, and a productive player's spot from the lineup.

Apologies to all, but if you live in Greenwich, you're probably a douchecock supreme.

Fuck all

Goodnight

Tampa makes this round without Stralman, that's the real shitty part.

Don't his parents limit his time on the internet?

tip of the hat to him for gutting it out

just too many no-show games. I honestly thought I'd be begrudgingly congratulating you all in a couple weeks and I'm shocked at how offense didn't show up.

That first goal is gonna haunt hank all summer. I've never thought McD was very good but that is some ballsy shit from him.

I tip my hat to you guys, pains me to say but they really bought some extra entertainment to this playoffs the way they kept battling back.

Best of luck next year, I see no reason you can't come back stronger.

He'll be back. This was a terrible year for him health wise too.

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I don't hold our GM in high regard. He got lucky with an elite goalie. His track record is below mediocre -- some nice recent wins... yes... but way too many fuck ups too.

I'm in total agreement and have been for quite some time. I may be "misremembering" but I think we had this discussion quite often last year and you may have been a bit more forgiving to Sather (if I'm wrong I apologize in advance).

Slats lucked into his generational talent but I fear that his generational talent is not playing a position in which the marginal talent over that of other great goaltenders is such a consistent edge. As you said, I'd almost prefer the Stamkos and above average goaltender to Lundy and the above average forward.

In any event, I think we both agree that the roster management has been flawed to a large extent and there is a real need to win now.

Hockey players are fucking beasts

And I'm with the more rational fans here - this was a fun season through and through, not just bc we won a lot of games, but we mostly played an exciting brand of hockey

In the end, it will really suck if Henrik doesn't win a Cup, but it's also been one of the best eras of Rangers hockey, certainly in my time as a fan

That's fine, you're entitled to those feelings. I don't really care about team Canada or any of that. The guy just has a giant fork sticking out of his back. It happens. He's done. I'm frustrated he didn't give more, but I could say that about a lot of guys. He gave us ehat he had, it just wasn't nearly enough. Im disappointed in that. I'm just not going to say "fuck him"

The particulars don't really matter though. We're done, and that sucks

meant to say I never thought McD was good **this playoffs.

but what teams are healthy this time of year? The Blackhawks will play a game 7 tomorrow night... with 4 defenseman!!!

It's not about being an "expert" - and if we'd played like a championship team against Pittsburgh or Washington, I could just write this off....

but To me the regular season Rangers were a lot of fun to root for and feel proud about; This playoff group? I admire the effort, but they weren't nearly good or talented enough. Sorry.

And this franchises playoff record over the past 4 years - the "golden age", what we waited a decade for - is 39-36. It's just not nearly good enough.

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but goddamn, that is serious toughness. I'm hoping a fully healthy McD next year returns to being a dominant two-way player. He's got that talent.

He plays like he did last season, the Rangers are in the SCF. He isn't going to be a Norris winner, but he has the talent to be a #1 dman for a long time, which is why I've been so frustrated with his play.

but these posts from devils/islanders seem real disingenuous, I'd have more respect if you guys danced on our grave right now, because I know that's what you want to do. Maybe I'm wrong, but those posts seem as fake as can be while you sit and laugh behind your keyboard (and i wouldnt blame you at all for doing so)

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In comment 12307358 BurberryManning said: Quote: In comment 12307324 Kyle in NY said: Quote: In comment 12307240 Anakim said: Quote: Fantastic last year in the playoffs, but an absolute and unmitigated disaster this year. Lindberg will replace him next year, but Sheppard should've replaced him tonight. Marty gave it everything he had. From all indications he was one of the hardest working guys on the team in practice throughout the playoffs. He clearly cares a ton. He just doesn't have it any more. Not gonna hold that against him. He was far from the only issue tonight Fuck that, Kyle. You're better than that. This is a motherfucker that has the following documented against him in the past 2 calendar years: 1) Held off of Team Canada by the GM who also happens to be the General Manager of his club hockey team. 2) Brought up to Team Canada via injury, benched and refused meaningful ice time by Mike Babcock, perhaps the most respected coach in the game 3) Threatened the chemistry of the Tampa Bay locker room barring a trade 4) Demands a trade to an intra-conference team that happens to have less points than his own team (clearly not for hockey reasons) 5) Cites the convenience of his and his wife's home in Greenwich to New York as a prime determinant in his desired location Fuck MSL. I'd rather pay Bobby Holik the money and at least tell myself that he takes pride in wearing a sweater coloured with his adopted national colours rather than watch MSL usurp money, assets, and a productive player's spot from the lineup. Apologies to all, but if you live in Greenwich, you're probably a douchecock supreme.

I mean, if you maintain a yacht in Greenwich but live in Wilton its okay but living IN Greenwich....

Mook, what can you do? We worked damn hard and came up a little short. I don't agree that we've got a short window for the Cup. As Anak has said, look at the goalies remaining...none of them are as good as Lundquist. And we've got a relatively young team, with some good kids in the pipeline.

I wish to heck that Sather hadn't traded for MSL...I'd have liked the two #1s, and would have taken the San Jose deal instead...picks and prospects, if I recall. But we still have Buch, Tambellini, Skiej, Graves and others on the way. We'll be fine.

And we've got a really good coach who allows the team to play high octane hockey. So there's that to be thankful for as well.

It hurts, for sure. But I've always felt that you've gotta win with grace and lose with grace. (Mo was the best example of that I've ever seen.) So life goes one, and wait till next year...a saying of the old Brooklyn Dodgers, when they were crap...but the fans still rooted for them with gusto.

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In comment 12307353 Ash_3 said: Quote: but goddamn, that is serious toughness. I'm hoping a fully healthy McD next year returns to being a dominant two-way player. He's got that talent. He plays like he did last season, the Rangers are in the SCF. He isn't going to be a Norris winner, but he has the talent to be a #1 dman for a long time, which is why I've been so frustrated with his play.

Yep. Other teams are set to improve too, but I think we don't have too many guys who look to be serious regression candidates (Stl leaving hopefully) and we have three big young forwards who could take one more important step into becoming 1st/2nd line players.

You're generally good enough to win it all. But man, the Stralman decision is such a punch in the gut right now.

I wanted tip my cap, texted all my friends the same shit. I won't lie and say I'm not thrilled at the result but it's just giving respect where it's due. Nothing more.

have far better offensive players than we do. That's the problem, yes we have the goalie but we ask him to stand on his head too often to get through these playoffs.

We don't have a Stamkos. Don't have a Kane, Toews, hell we don't have a Getzlaf or Cory Perry.

We have the goalie, but in most of these series in the playoffs that we play we will have less skill up front, and it's a real problem. And a problem that's only going to get worse as Tampa gets even better, Islanders keep getting better with guys like Tavares, and Pittsburgh has Crosby and Malkin.

I'm a fan of Rick Nash, but it's a problem that he's our best offensive player come playoff time. We've seen that long enough.

And unfortunately that is not going to change in this window. No one is handing us a stud offensively.

but I think I read the other day that Hank has a losing playoff record. Again, could be wrong.

His GAA is of course insane come playoff time but I'm pretty sure ... nevertheless... he has a losing playoff record anyway.

If anyone has any ideas about how to get this guy some true, bonified scoring talent to try to win a Cup for him... I'm all years. I don't want to continue to bang our heads against walls for 39-36 records over 4 years despite having the best goalie in hockey. It's a joke.

dancing on your graves.

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I wanted tip my cap, texted all my friends the same shit. I won't lie and say I'm not thrilled at the result but it's just giving respect where it's due. Nothing more.

No problem, it's all good. I'm just pissed off right now.

no matter what the circumstance he seemingly gives his team a chance to win no matter what. Sure, it'll be a shame if he never wins a Cup but he's won with Sweden so he has "his" championship and he's sure as shit shown his ability to dominate in the pressure games that the NHL has to offer.

I'm not sure which poster recently mentioned that Lundy is supposedly our generation's top goaltender but its increasingly obvious with each passing game.

is this group has played as much Hockey over the last 4 years as probably any team in the league, Chicago included. That adds a lot of tread on the tires.

This isn't a graybeard team on their last legs like '97. They have some solid young talent, both on the team now and in the system. They don't have a future superstar, true, but this is hardly the cusp of a collapse.

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!!!!!

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is this group has played as much Hockey over the last 4 years as probably any team in the league, Chicago included. That adds a lot of tread on the tires.

Great point, Mook. It's a blessing and a curse I'd imagine. Terrific for youth & team development but it must be exhausting.

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This isn't a graybeard team on their last legs like '97. They have some solid young talent, both on the team now and in the system. They don't have a future superstar, true, but this is hardly the cusp of a collapse.

No one thinks they're on the cusp of a collapse.

But look around. Everyone else around us is going to get better, Tampa included. I don't see how we get much better. Henrik can't get any better.

We need better players up front, and im not sure where they are coming from. We're caught in between right now when it comes playoff time. We're a speed team that doesn't have the skill up front that other teams do, and big teams destroy us with hits. Not a great combination, and the biggest reason this team is .500 in the playoffs with this group.

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You're generally good enough to win it all. But man, the Stralman decision is such a punch in the gut right now.

That was the move I hated the most last offseason. Let him go only to bring in an overpriced Boyle, who isn't half the player he is at this point in their careers.

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This isn't a graybeard team on their last legs like '97. They have some solid young talent, both on the team now and in the system. They don't have a future superstar, true, but this is hardly the cusp of a collapse.

Greg, the fear that I think many of us have is that the impact talent across the league seems to be younger whereas the Rangers' impact talent has more or less hit their prime. The progression of youth talent across the NHL has been astounding of late and late-20s is the new 25. While our players may seem to be hitting their peak, the fear is that every other team is accruing faster maturing players by the year.

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This isn't a graybeard team on their last legs like '97. They have some solid young talent, both on the team now and in the system. They don't have a future superstar, true, but this is hardly the cusp of a collapse.

No not a collapse. But you don't want to be a Wings or Flyers either where you're showing up every April and shaking hands with the true rivalries two weeks into it either.

This franchise had gotten a lot of luck in game 7s to even be 39-36 over the past 4 years. It hasn't differentiated itself even a little. I don't have answers tonight -- I'm heartbroken. But I'd love to know how the fuck we're ever going to take that next step to get Hank a Cup. Because right now this team isn't close offensively. Not close.

is Girardi is a prime candidate for a guy who will just suddenly fall off of a cliff. He's a guy that I see just going from rock solid to pure shit when he drops off. Hopefully that's a ways off, but with his style you never know.

And if it does happen, our defense suddenly doesn't look nearly as strong as it once did. Boyle here for at most one more year, and no reason to expect him to be any better next year than he was this year.

that I'd have rather lost in Penguins series.

But this time I wish we got knocked out in Washington series. Would have hurt a hell of a lot less.

But Hank may have to go the Bourque/Hasek route to win a cup.

transitioning to being a bit more physical. The Caps have a ton of goons, but I think this squad can play physically with most teams. Kreider's a monster, Miller's big and physical, and so is Hayes (even if he's a bit dipsy doodle). If the Nash we saw a few times this series (the one who's willing to stand in front of the net and jam home rebounds) shows up in the playoffs, we'd be better off too.

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But Hank may have to go the Bourque/Hasek route to win a cup.

I thought this in 2012, but thought they were good enough this year.

He still needs to be the best player on the ice for them to win.

Besides a young meltdown on defense in the 3rd period of Game 6, which the Rangers took advantage of, they controlled the play. Meanwhile, they're coach, said all the right things and has great pulse on a team which listens to him.

here. We're not a super old team. There are a few worrisome players, but this team has some important players who've got significant upside to tap.

expect for the Rangers to be back in the mix next year. It's just such a kick to the nuts the way they went out.

and botching the Stralman deal cost the team DuClair and a #1 pick which still didn't replace him.

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but these posts from devils/islanders seem real disingenuous, I'd have more respect if you guys danced on our grave right now, because I know that's what you want to do. Maybe I'm wrong, but those posts seem as fake as can be while you sit and laugh behind your keyboard (and i wouldnt blame you at all for doing so)

You're wrong. I gain nothing by posting on here. Yes, I wanted the Rangers to lose but I happen to feel bad for some of you guys and have respect for you. I feel BBI has a nice group of hockey fans and one thing I can relate to is hockey pain. Believe me, I'm sure we'll have dust ups and I'll be more than happy to attack you guys then but this is not a time to be a dick.

You addressed this with your comment about being pissed off, but there's no disingenuity here. There are still some who believe in good sportsmanship (that's the lifelong player and coach in me), and hockey is full of sportsmanship and great traditions like the handshake line. Plus, the serious fan of hockey is a tight community. Do I hope we crush you every time we play? You bet. But I wanted you to know I respect your effort this season and feel bad for you guys that really bleed the red, white and blue.

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and botching the Stralman deal cost the team DuClair and a #1 pick which still didn't replace him.

Stralman didn't cost us the cup, we didn't score for 2 games at home. We scored 17 in their building. Stralman wasn't the difference. Good player, better than Boyle, a mistake not resigning him, but we lost because of our forwards.

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In comment 12307418 Giants2012 said: Quote: and botching the Stralman deal cost the team DuClair and a #1 pick which still didn't replace him. Stralman didn't cost us the cup, we didn't score for 2 games at home. We scored 17 in their building. Stralman wasn't the difference. Good player, better than Boyle, a mistake not resigning him, but we lost because of our forwards.

I just said cost us DuClair and a #1 (READ).

Choosing him over Stralman was likely a mistake, but I don't think it was the difference in this series.

and pga. No worries. I'm just salty. You guys are good dudes.

we knew that already.

Stralman did cost us a final bid. He was a top pair, shutdown defensemen on the other team which shut us out twice in the final 3 games of this series.

He was also on their #1 PP which scored at a 35% clip in this series.

Letting him go for no fucking Goddamn reason... will and now officially already has haunt this team for a decade+

TB doesn't get this far without Stralman.

Picking Girardi over Stralman was even worse than getting Boyle as a replacement long-term.

Tampa isn't here without Stralman, so in that sense it really fucking sucks. He was by far their best defender in the Detroit series, and they probably didn't deserve to get through that series the way they played, especially in game 7. Totally dominated even worse than the Rangers were tonight

because odds are we're losing him the next season.

Doesn't read or think very well but we knew that.

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and pga. No worries. I'm just salty. You guys are good dudes.

I would be too.

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because odds are we're losing him the next season.

Yandle played much better this series. I read he had a separated shoulder. He was bad in the first two rounds.

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Agree with that but I'm hoping to see a more consistent presence on the power play. A healthy McD would help there too.

we got rid of him because we wanted a better guy on the power play, yet we never really gave him a fucking chance on the power play, he goes to Tampa and somehow can be on their first power play unit that is a hell of a lot better than ours.

That one I put on AV too. If Stralman was good enough to be on their first unit, he certainly was good enough for ours, but we never gave him a shot.

Agreed that I wish we traded Girardi (or let him walk) signed Stralman even if we signed Boyle too. Would have helped potentially lengthen our window

become a Kane like player.

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become a Kane like player.

Yeah, next to no fucking chance.

Kane like players are drafted in the first couple picks with the extremely rare exception, and the rare exception would have been in the NHL all year this year, not sitting in juniors.

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we knew that already. Stralman did cost us a final bid. He was a top pair, shutdown defensemen on the other team which shut us out twice in the final 3 games of this series. He was also on their #1 PP which scored at a 35% clip in this series. Letting him go for no fucking Goddamn reason... will and now officially already has haunt this team for a decade+

That team also let up 17 goals over three games in Tampa. Sorry, but I think given what I saw against Pittsburgh and Washington, the problem was the inconsistency of our offense rather than Stralman. No clue if Tampa would have been here without Stralman, but I know we weren't winning the cup because we couldn't be consistent offensively. Hell, we were a minute twenty from losing in 5 to the caps. We struggled mightily in the playoffs and the heart and determination of this team somehow dragged us along.

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because odds are we're losing him the next season.

It's a given. He wants to play for Boston - he's already said that.

Of course... money talks. And if he plays next season as he did for us this year... he wont get all that much.

Look, Sather put all his chips to the center of the table this year on a couple year run... is what it is. Rebuilding isn't the end of the world - it can actually be done quickly if done right. Look at Tampa - they faced Boston in 2010 for an ECF... took two years off, drafted some elite young talent... now they're playing for another cup 5 years later.

Just don't kid yourselves that fighting for an 8 seed is honorable. It's fucking stupid. Know when your time is up and rebuild quickly. I think we have 2-3 years left in this group and then its time to rebuild.

Tough to find that kinda speed with that kinda shot. The kid has great hands and growing. He's no smurf.

Dolan and Sather will make this rebuild a hell of a lot more painful than it needs to be when it does come.

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In comment 12307431 Ash_3 Look, Sather put all his chips to the center of the table this year on a couple year run... is what it is. Rebuilding isn't the end of the world - it can actually be done quickly if done quickly. .

WTF are you posting about? The team is young, this isn't a rebuilding project.

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Not that it mattered but yea...I guess I should have rooted for tampa in that game.

Hey...the difference between the 14 and 15 Rangers?
The 14 Rangers had their foe (Boston) eliminated and knocked out Price.
I believed they would not make the SCF if they played the Bruins or Habs with Price.

We just did not get that break this season.

this season.

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this season.

You're an idiot.

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I don't know if a healthy Zucc or McD would have been the difference... but when you factor in regular season, they owned us. 7-3 overall, 5-1 at MSG. There will be serious soul searching for this organization in the offseason because Sather went all in on the now and bottom line is this group doesn't have enough elite talent up front to win Hank a Cup. We *might* get one more run at it before its over... maybe... but you've got to be realistic and not end up selling all your assets when its too late.

What makes this all the more painful is seeing Boston win it in 2011.
God, I thought this team was going to pull it out.
Woulda been great for the city of NY, pisses me off those spoiled Boston fans got it, hell Chicago and Detroit, but the Rangers remain the shafted original six.

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Tough to find that kinda speed with that kinda shot. The kid has great hands and growing. He's no smurf.

Just look at the players you would put on Patrick Kane's level and where they were drafted.

Crosby- 1st
Ovechkin- 2nd
Malkin- 2nd
Toews- 3rd
Tavares- 1st

Duclair could wind up being a real nice player but I think the chances of him being Kane like are zero

last year benefited from an unreal 8 games against backup goalies.

and we still made Dustin Tokarski.... seriously? that fucking guy?... look great.

is misleading considering MSL won't be on the team next year and Boyle isn't a big part of the team, at all.

Get rid of those two and the team probably improves rather than gets worse, and suddenly that number goes down pretty significantly.

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Which fact are you disputing?

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That you're an idiot and cleary haven't bothered to look at the roster.

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is misleading considering MSL won't be on the team next year and Boyle isn't a big part of the team, at all. Get rid of those two and the team probably improves rather than gets worse, and suddenly that number goes down pretty significantly.

that will help, Mook, but every team has a few vets to teach the younger guys how to act off the ice and all that. And Boyle has a NMC... no idea if he'll waive it. We might be stuck and he was generally OK this year anyway, so we'll just have to wait and see. I'd actually move Klein personally.

And anyway the point is NYI and Pittsburgh are younger and will be better next year. We have to find scoring.... somehow.... and its the toughest part to find especially when you don't give yourself a draft pick for 3 years.

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What must make things even more painful for Rangers fans is having to read this guys type as if he is one of you.

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That you're an idiot and cleary haven't bothered to look at the roster.

So you're disputing yourself that I'm an idiot? Its a tough night for all of us but you're not making any sense.

So you think the Rangers have a better young 25 & under core than the rest of the league? Kreider & Miller will bring home a Cup that Tavares, Stamkos, McDavid, Eichel, MacKinnon, and about 50 other young really good players cant do?

I'm not trying to be down... but 39-36 over the past 4 years despite a 'win now' roster and the best goalie in the world speaks for itself. This team cannot score playoff goals. It's a new excuse every year.

I'm not sure that he understands the parameters of the discussion...

In any event, how do the Rangers proceed? I think we all agree that there are limited assets outside of the immediate roster. Lindberg, McIlrath (Brett knows I love him), Buch, and maybe Skjei can challenge for spots.

What do the Rangers lack? Top-end skill? We're not adding any this off-season. Grit? I thought that the 4th line including Glass actually was terrific this postseason so I'm not sure its as much of a problem but McI would certainly help.

I dont know where the incremental decline would come from, outside of age, and I dont know where the incremental improvement will come from. As we've mentioned earlier, this is a sport in which players are reaching their respective peak(s) earlier so lets not assume that 25 year old Kreider is > than a 22 year old from another club.

For a second that any team in the east will be better than us next year with the exception of the team that just beat us. The islanders suck. They were falling apart at end of season, one a ton of shootout games, haven't won a playoff series in 22 years. Forgive me for not being scared of them. They have Tavares, a few good offensive pieces with him, one decent pairing on defense, and a shaky goalie. They seem to be wasting Tavares' prime if you asked me.

pretty easily could. They have 2 of the top 10 players in the world, that's a good start

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that I'd have rather lost in Penguins series. But this time I wish we got knocked out in Washington series. Would have hurt a hell of a lot less.

WHOA WHOA WHOA......no fucking way dude...no fucking way.

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In comment 12307467 BlueHurricane said:

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In comment 12307455 hudson said: Quote: In comment 12307188 MetsAreBack said: Quote: I don't know if a healthy Zucc or McD would have been the difference... but when you factor in regular season, they owned us. 7-3 overall, 5-1 at MSG. There will be serious soul searching for this organization in the offseason because Sather went all in on the now and bottom line is this group doesn't have enough elite talent up front to win Hank a Cup. We *might* get one more run at it before its over... maybe... but you've got to be realistic and not end up selling all your assets when its too late. What makes this all the more painful is seeing Boston win it in 2011. God, I thought this team was going to pull it out. Woulda been great for the city of NY, pisses me off those spoiled Boston fans got it, hell Chicago and Detroit, but the Rangers remain the shafted original six. What must make things even more painful for Rangers fans is having to read this guys type as if he is one of you.

He does invest more of his money into the team, along with his time, so I wouldn't discount the involvement of a fan. MAB's paying thousands for life while MSL is usurping millions until the gig is up...I'd be hard pressed to argue against MAB being the real Ranger

In comment 12307429 MookGiants said:

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Tampa isn't here without Stralman, so in that sense it really fucking sucks. He was by far their best defender in the Detroit series, and they probably didn't deserve to get through that series the way they played, especially in game 7. Totally dominated even worse than the Rangers were tonight

We didn't lose the series because of Strahlmain...we lost due to lack of elite skill upfront....but Tampa isn't winning without Strahlmain.

Since 2009. Why would they scare me? They have never been able to build around Malkin and Crosby since the cup year, and I have no reason to believe that will change next season.

In comment 12307385 MookGiants said:

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have far better offensive players than we do. That's the problem, yes we have the goalie but we ask him to stand on his head too often to get through these playoffs. We don't have a Stamkos. Don't have a Kane, Toews, hell we don't have a Getzlaf or Cory Perry. We have the goalie, but in most of these series in the playoffs that we play we will have less skill up front, and it's a real problem. And a problem that's only going to get worse as Tampa gets even better, Islanders keep getting better with guys like Tavares, and Pittsburgh has Crosby and Malkin. I'm a fan of Rick Nash, but it's a problem that he's our best offensive player come playoff time. We've seen that long enough. And unfortunately that is not going to change in this window. No one is handing us a stud offensively.

Rick Nash=Marian Hossa.
Problem is we don't have Toewes or Kane.
Rick Nash is not a bust, but like Gaborik, he is not the best skater on a cup team.

Hosea went like 20 games without goal and nobody talks about it. This is the fact.

We don't have a super star either on offense or defense.
Every cup team does, even Boston had a Norris in Chara.

is only 24, he's still got quite a bit of prime left.

And the point is not that those other teams will be better than us, but at the very least the gap will close, and we still wont have that one dynamite offensive player that we so clearly desperately need to win a cup.

Some real mediocre goaltenders have won a cup recently because they had top offensive players to get through the playoffs.

I was absolutely blown away with how good he played. At 6'6 with his speed and vision he's going to be a monster for another 12 years or so.

In comment 12307470 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 12307464 Giants2012 said: Quote: That you're an idiot and cleary haven't bothered to look at the roster. So you're disputing yourself that I'm an idiot? Its a tough night for all of us but you're not making any sense. So you think the Rangers have a better young 25 & under core than the rest of the league? Kreider & Miller will bring home a Cup that Tavares, Stamkos, McDavid, Eichel, MacKinnon, and about 50 other young really good players cant do? I'm not trying to be down... but 39-36 over the past 4 years despite a 'win now' roster and the best goalie in the world speaks for itself. This team cannot score playoff goals. It's a new excuse every year.

I'm not making sense? You're a moron. Besides MSL and Boyle the roster is loaded with vets between 25-30 and kids under 25. That BS theory that vets need to teach kids how to act off the ice must have missed how well behaved this team, besides Miller in Hartford, has been off the ice. Even the Captain is only 25 yrs old, Stephan, Kreider, Hayes, Miller Fast are all under 25. Brassard is only 27, Hagelin is 26, Zucs is 27 which equates to one short of 3 full lines with Lindberg and Buchevich in the wings. Meanwhile, the defense is locked up with Graves, etc in the wings.

Get a clue

In comment 12307478 BurberryManning said:

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In comment 12307467 BlueHurricane said: Quote: In comment 12307455 hudson said: Quote: In comment 12307188 MetsAreBack said: Quote: I don't know if a healthy Zucc or McD would have been the difference... but when you factor in regular season, they owned us. 7-3 overall, 5-1 at MSG. There will be serious soul searching for this organization in the offseason because Sather went all in on the now and bottom line is this group doesn't have enough elite talent up front to win Hank a Cup. We *might* get one more run at it before its over... maybe... but you've got to be realistic and not end up selling all your assets when its too late. What makes this all the more painful is seeing Boston win it in 2011. God, I thought this team was going to pull it out. Woulda been great for the city of NY, pisses me off those spoiled Boston fans got it, hell Chicago and Detroit, but the Rangers remain the shafted original six. What must make things even more painful for Rangers fans is having to read this guys type as if he is one of you. He does invest more of his money into the team, along with his time, so I wouldn't discount the involvement of a fan. MAB's paying thousands for life while MSL is usurping millions until the gig is up...I'd be hard pressed to argue against MAB being the real Ranger

Losing hurts just as badly. I love hockey more than any sport....the Rangers have a very bad history, we still are tied with the Isles for Cups, the Bruins won recently, and we have the fewest of any original six.

It sucks....if anything you could argue I'm less a baseballYankee fan.
I'd rather have a cup than any other title.

In comment 12307478 BurberryManning said:

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In comment 12307467 BlueHurricane said: Quote: In comment 12307455 hudson said: Quote: In comment 12307188 MetsAreBack said: Quote: I don't know if a healthy Zucc or McD would have been the difference... but when you factor in regular season, they owned us. 7-3 overall, 5-1 at MSG. There will be serious soul searching for this organization in the offseason because Sather went all in on the now and bottom line is this group doesn't have enough elite talent up front to win Hank a Cup. We *might* get one more run at it before its over... maybe... but you've got to be realistic and not end up selling all your assets when its too late. What makes this all the more painful is seeing Boston win it in 2011. God, I thought this team was going to pull it out. Woulda been great for the city of NY, pisses me off those spoiled Boston fans got it, hell Chicago and Detroit, but the Rangers remain the shafted original six. What must make things even more painful for Rangers fans is having to read this guys type as if he is one of you. He does invest more of his money into the team, along with his time, so I wouldn't discount the involvement of a fan. MAB's paying thousands for life while MSL is usurping millions until the gig is up...I'd be hard pressed to argue against MAB being the real Ranger

Thanks Burberry- but I think he was referring to the Penguins fan Hudson

For the record, the only teams in the Metro that concern me next year are NYI, Pittsburgh and Columbus. Washington isn't particularly close, even if Holtby might be the next Lundqvist (I kind of doubt it).

In comment 12307485 BurberryManning said:

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I was absolutely blown away with how good he played. At 6'6 with his speed and vision he's going to be a monster for another 12 years or so.

I think he's going to win a Norris soon.