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DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 12:29 pm
- Not Knicks related but Vecsey claims Thibs is so sure that Davis will leave NO that he doesn't want the job. As many of you know I know Peter personally and even I find this story to be pretty ridiculous if true.

-Winslow and the Knicks? http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62139/how-does-justise-winslow-fit-with-the-knicks

"Given those poor numbers, it’s not hard to see why the Knicks, according to ESPN’s Chad Ford, are “big fans” of Winslow’s."

- Mudiay and the Knicks? http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62117/how-can-mudiay-help-the-knicks
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ESPN  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 1:04 pm : link
Why would Tyson Chandler, who departed from Dallas due to the cold business of basketball once before, wait patiently for the Mavericks' pursuit for his potential replacement to play out?

Perhaps the Mavs can make Chandler a promise: They’ll eventually sign him to a market-value deal, whether it’s with the intention to keep him in Dallas or send him to a contender.

That contender would be the Los Angeles Clippers. Of course, the Clippers would prefer to keep DeAndre Jordan, the third-team All-NBA big man who ranks right up there with perennial All-Star power forward LaMarcus Aldridge as the Mavs’ top targets in free agency. However, Jordan intends to consider all of his options and has privately made it clear that he’s highly intrigued by the possibility of coming to Dallas as a featured attraction for the Mavs.

A sign-and-trade swap of the centers, which has been mentioned in Mavs front-office offseason brainstorming sessions, would make a lot of sense for all of the involved parties.
Let's not overthink this  
Anakim : 5/29/2015 1:05 pm : link
Draft one of the Big 4. If Phil isn't enthralled with any of them, trade down, but let's not reach for WCS or Winslow. Winslow wouldn't be much of a reach as WCS, but I think he could be had at 6 or 7.
Yeah, Winslow makes sense as a later pick  
BeerFridge : 5/29/2015 1:06 pm : link
but not at 4.
RE: ESPN  
Enzo : 5/29/2015 1:09 pm : link
In comment 12306020 DanMetroMan said:
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Why would Tyson Chandler, who departed from Dallas due to the cold business of basketball once before, wait patiently for the Mavericks' pursuit for his potential replacement to play out?

Perhaps the Mavs can make Chandler a promise: They’ll eventually sign him to a market-value deal, whether it’s with the intention to keep him in Dallas or send him to a contender.

That contender would be the Los Angeles Clippers. Of course, the Clippers would prefer to keep DeAndre Jordan, the third-team All-NBA big man who ranks right up there with perennial All-Star power forward LaMarcus Aldridge as the Mavs’ top targets in free agency. However, Jordan intends to consider all of his options and has privately made it clear that he’s highly intrigued by the possibility of coming to Dallas as a featured attraction for the Mavs.

A sign-and-trade swap of the centers, which has been mentioned in Mavs front-office offseason brainstorming sessions, would make a lot of sense for all of the involved parties.

you would think Jordan could get 5 years on the open market. He can only get 4 in a sign-and-trade. Chandler and Chris Paul are old buddies so it makes some sense on that level, but the Clippers would probably have to do some maneuvering with the cap/apron to pull it off.
Wonderful  
Anakim : 5/29/2015 1:15 pm : link
So if we kept Tyson Chandler, aside from all of the negative things about that trade, we would've been able to possibly get DeAndre Jordan too in a S+T. Lovely. Grand.
how good a pro Winslow turns out to be depends on if he can  
Greg from LI : 5/29/2015 1:16 pm : link
play the 2 in the NBA, which is unknown. He mostly played 3 or 4 at Duke. Won't be able to play 4 at all in the NBA, and is probably too small to be a quality 3. He has some range to his shot, but if you watched much of him you'd notice that he doesn't really hit much off screens or off the dribble. Most of his makes are when he's set, and he won't get those opportunities all the time like he did at Duke.
There is very little risk to Davis in testing the market  
Deej : 5/29/2015 1:25 pm : link
Broken-back Dwight got maxed out. Davis would have to lose a leg to not get a max deal. And you actually make more going year to year I think. So it's not crazy to think that he will not resign there.

Thon Maker to Indiana  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 1:26 pm : link
C'mon just announce it already!
RE: There is very little risk to Davis in testing the market  
Enzo : 5/29/2015 1:30 pm : link
In comment 12306081 Deej said:
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Broken-back Dwight got maxed out. Davis would have to lose a leg to not get a max deal. And you actually make more going year to year I think. So it's not crazy to think that he will not resign there.

the risk is that he can sign the max extension two years before he can potentially enter unrestricted free agency. That's why these guys never leave until after the second deal.
RE: RE: ESPN  
Enzo : 5/29/2015 1:32 pm : link
In comment 12306033 Enzo said:
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In comment 12306020 DanMetroMan said:


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Why would Tyson Chandler, who departed from Dallas due to the cold business of basketball once before, wait patiently for the Mavericks' pursuit for his potential replacement to play out?

Perhaps the Mavs can make Chandler a promise: They’ll eventually sign him to a market-value deal, whether it’s with the intention to keep him in Dallas or send him to a contender.

That contender would be the Los Angeles Clippers. Of course, the Clippers would prefer to keep DeAndre Jordan, the third-team All-NBA big man who ranks right up there with perennial All-Star power forward LaMarcus Aldridge as the Mavs’ top targets in free agency. However, Jordan intends to consider all of his options and has privately made it clear that he’s highly intrigued by the possibility of coming to Dallas as a featured attraction for the Mavs.

A sign-and-trade swap of the centers, which has been mentioned in Mavs front-office offseason brainstorming sessions, would make a lot of sense for all of the involved parties.


you would think Jordan could get 5 years on the open market. He can only get 4 in a sign-and-trade. Chandler and Chris Paul are old buddies so it makes some sense on that level, but the Clippers would probably have to do some maneuvering with the cap/apron to pull it off.

correcting my post - he can only get 5 years from LA. Everyone else can only offer 4 whether it's sign-and-trade or a straight signing.
Winslow is a come off the bench player imo  
#10* : 5/29/2015 1:38 pm : link
He didn't really even start to hit his stride until the tourny where it became a toss up imo of mvp between him and Tyus.

WCS is basically a young DeAndre Jordan. The difference between selection spots in the draft imo is who will start. I believe Willy will start because of his defense from day 1. He won't be asked to score. That's all bonus with him. But if he's near the rim watch out.

I get why there's no love for Winslow at 4  
Pep22 : 5/29/2015 1:39 pm : link
b/c he's not a PG or C, two premium positions. But I do think he will be a great player, perhaps the best player in the draft. I think he will be a tremendous wing defender. In addition, though he's still somewhat raw, I see some (young) Dwayne Wade in the way he attacks the rim especially in transition.
RE: Thon Maker to Indiana  
Greg from LI : 5/29/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12306085 giantsfan44ab said:
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C'mon just announce it already!


Why on earth would he choose to go play in that mess? Crean sucks and the fans are begging for him to be fired.
Wade? Um, no  
Greg from LI : 5/29/2015 1:42 pm : link
He reminds me much more of his fellow Dookie Corey Maggette than Dwyane Wade. Cmon now.
Magette  
Pep22 : 5/29/2015 1:47 pm : link
was a prima donna and never played with the pace that Wade or Winslow played at. As a freshman, when defending or with the ball in transition, Winslow was a man among boys. At 6'6 227 and elite athletic ability, I don't see why the comp tho lofty isn't accurate.
Winslow  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/29/2015 1:52 pm : link
was maybe the best player I saw in the tourney. His games against SDSU and Utah were nothing short of jawdropping.

He's still raw offensively. I don't know how much I truly trust his shot. The .486 FG% and .418 3P% show potential, but the .641 FT% also shows that his shot has a long way to go.

But I would bet on this guy to become a real player in the NBA. He reminds me so much of Jimmy Butler.
Knicks  
Csonka : 5/29/2015 2:36 pm : link
I haven't decided for sure who I want, but Winslow is definitely in the discussion.

I don't know how, without seeing workouts, anyone can say Mudiay is clearly the guy based on 10 games in China and some footage from HS games.
RE: RE: Thon Maker to Indiana  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 3:02 pm : link
In comment 12306133 Greg from LI said:
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C'mon just announce it already!



Why on earth would he choose to go play in that mess? Crean sucks and the fans are begging for him to be fired.


Not a big fan of Crean I will admit, but he already cut his list to between IU and UK. Obviously Cal is a huge plus there, but then again, they lost 9 players to the NBA. Uk may not even be the best SEC team with the guys LSU landed.

IU desperately needed a center, as we were starting a SF at the 5, and we got one of the top center recruits in Thomas Bryant. We have 3 future NBA players at the 1,2, and 3, and an opening at the 4, which is where Thon could play. Plus, Robert Johnson, who could potentially be a 2nd round pick in a few years, will be coming off the bench.

This year the Big 10 is as shallow as I can remember in years. Wisco is losing Dekker and Frank, MSU is losing Dawson, Castello, Trice and Valentine, UMich doesn't have any stars even though they will get Lavert back, and OSU is losing D'Angelo Russell and he literally carried them on his back.

Aside from Maryland, the Big 10 is wide open. There is no lock Maker would even start on UK as they are getting Poythress and Lee back and got 2 other 5 star recruits. That could hurt his draft stock.
RE: Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12306291 Csonka said:
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I haven't decided for sure who I want, but Winslow is definitely in the discussion.

I don't know how, without seeing workouts, anyone can say Mudiay is clearly the guy based on 10 games in China and some footage from HS games.


So throw out everything scouts and those who HAVE seen him are saying? Last I checked MOST of the best players over the last 2 decades of the NBA have come from the HS ranks, they somehow were "scouted".
I'm not sure why anyone's freaking about about the Knicks drafting  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/29/2015 3:32 pm : link
Cauley-Stein.

Are we at the point where we just believe everything we read when it's reported as rumor?
Hammer  
Pep22 : 5/29/2015 3:33 pm : link
Its bc everything that could go wrong has gone wrong for as long as we can remember. Its easy to get to a freak out point.
Kobe  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 3:37 pm : link
Tyson Chandler, Amar'e, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson, Jermaine O'Neil, Tmac, Josh Smith, JR Smith, KG and Kyrie Irving... somehow scouts saw enough of these guys despite not playing in college to deem them stud prospects right?
My biggest  
EricNY33 : 5/29/2015 3:38 pm : link
issue with WCS is that almost everything I read and hear says they're not sure he loves the game. If he's at this point of his basketball career that should NEVER be something that anyone is wondering. Why would anyone ever draft a player like that?
RE: Kobe  
EricNY33 : 5/29/2015 3:39 pm : link
In comment 12306412 DanMetroMan said:
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Tyson Chandler, Amar'e, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson, Jermaine O'Neil, Tmac, Josh Smith, JR Smith, KG and Kyrie Irving... somehow scouts saw enough of these guys despite not playing in college to deem them stud prospects right?


Kyrie played in college. Not much, but he did play.
RE: RE: Kobe  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12306415 EricNY33 said:
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Tyson Chandler, Amar'e, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson, Jermaine O'Neil, Tmac, Josh Smith, JR Smith, KG and Kyrie Irving... somehow scouts saw enough of these guys despite not playing in college to deem them stud prospects right?



Kyrie played in college. Not much, but he did play.


Lol c'mon Eric. Those 10 games he played in college vs. the 10 Mudiay played in China really is a game changer?
RE: RE: RE: Kobe  
EricNY33 : 5/29/2015 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12306421 DanMetroMan said:
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Tyson Chandler, Amar'e, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson, Jermaine O'Neil, Tmac, Josh Smith, JR Smith, KG and Kyrie Irving... somehow scouts saw enough of these guys despite not playing in college to deem them stud prospects right?



Kyrie played in college. Not much, but he did play.



Lol c'mon Eric. Those 10 games he played in college vs. the 10 Mudiay played in China really is a game changer?


Duke is closer than Beijing. LOL
Kyrie  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 3:45 pm : link
Irving 303 college minutes, Mudiay 379 minutes in China regular season + playoffs

Jordan classic, McDonald's all-american game, Nike Hoop Summit, Lebron Skills academy. This isn't some alien. The scouts have seen him quite a bit.
I really don't know how anyone  
djm : 5/29/2015 3:57 pm : link
can sit here and blast the Knicks for taking a guy like Winslow or Stein over a guy like Mudiay. We know NOTHING about this kid...nothing. IF and when the Knicks scout this kid and come away unimpressed I have to trust their judgement.

Winslow has been getting a lot of love the last 3-4 months. There's a reason...he's got a high NBA ceiling. If the Knicks agree with this take and don't completely love Mudiay or Russell they should take Winslow.

May want to wait a few months before killing or praising the pick anyway. I'm gonna just let the chips fall and hope like hell they turn this draft pick into gold. They have to.
now  
djm : 5/29/2015 3:59 pm : link
if the Knicks love Mudiay and still take Wislow because of some stupif unfounded reason, such as well he only played in China, then i'd be pissed off about it.

Take the BPA. Don't take someone for all the wrong reasons--like Stein for example. If they take him they better believe that he's gonna be a beast at center.
RE: now  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12306453 djm said:
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if the Knicks love Mudiay and still take Wislow because of some stupif unfounded reason, such as well he only played in China, then i'd be pissed off about it.

Take the BPA. Don't take someone for all the wrong reasons--like Stein for example. If they take him they better believe that he's gonna be a beast at center.


My point is this idea that people can't "like" a prospect because he didn't play here is silly. Chad Ford says the Knicks are high on Mudiay, Fran Frascila is high on Mudiay. If Adam Silver announced at mid-season "HS players will be allowed in this draft" people would suddenly be "allowed" to like Mudiay?

As for Winslow/WCS... I'll be sick if WCS is the pick for the simple fact his upside is insanely limited and guys with similar skillsets are going to be available via FA. Winslow over Mudiay, I could "accept". I also don't want a pick based on triangle fit or "how close" the guy is. WCS is so insanely overrated by some. If he were an elite level rebounder I could accept it but he's not.
I get the whole Tyson Chandler trade thing  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/29/2015 4:13 pm : link
why trade Chandler just to draft WCS whose most common comparison is Chandler himself.

But WCS is going to be an absolute animal in the NBA. His D is the safest asset in this entire draft by a mile. Okafor's O has way more bust potential than WCS's D.

And WCS's offense is going to be better in the NBA where he'll be able to play with talented offensive guards and have more space to play with. He is going to be a strong PnR player like Chandler, and that alone will give him offensive value.

WCS might be the best player in the draft imo. You guys are seriously underrating how well his game projects to the NBA and how truly amazing of a defensive prospect he is.
RE: I get the whole Tyson Chandler trade thing  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:26 pm : link
In comment 12306482 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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why trade Chandler just to draft WCS whose most common comparison is Chandler himself.

But WCS is going to be an absolute animal in the NBA. His D is the safest asset in this entire draft by a mile. Okafor's O has way more bust potential than WCS's D.

And WCS's offense is going to be better in the NBA where he'll be able to play with talented offensive guards and have more space to play with. He is going to be a strong PnR player like Chandler, and that alone will give him offensive value.

WCS might be the best player in the draft imo. You guys are seriously underrating how well his game projects to the NBA and how truly amazing of a defensive prospect he is.


His rebounding is nothing special and his offensive upside is nil. The Knicks could add a Mudiay + a Robin Lopez or Asik... and be FAR better off than a rare premium pick on a guy like this. Heck, Biyombo averaged 5 and 6 with 1.5 blocks in 19.5 minutes in his age 22 season and all he will cost is money. 25 or so minutes per game he's likely giving you the same 8 and 8 that WCS can + the Knicks can take a high upside guy at 4. Robin Lopez 10 and 7 with 1.4 blocks AND he's a high effort guy. Are you telling me WCS upside is far greater than Lopez? I don't see it AT ALL.
Tyson  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:27 pm : link
Chandler is a horrendous offensive player.
RE: I get the whole Tyson Chandler trade thing  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12306482 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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why trade Chandler just to draft WCS whose most common comparison is Chandler himself.

But WCS is going to be an absolute animal in the NBA. His D is the safest asset in this entire draft by a mile. Okafor's O has way more bust potential than WCS's D.

And WCS's offense is going to be better in the NBA where he'll be able to play with talented offensive guards and have more space to play with. He is going to be a strong PnR player like Chandler, and that alone will give him offensive value.

WCS might be the best player in the draft imo. You guys are seriously underrating how well his game projects to the NBA and how truly amazing of a defensive prospect he is.


Yeah I agree with how good his defense will be. Its just that there is literally no way we could get an above average PG in the next few years. I dont wanna be stuck with Galloway, Calderon or Shved at PG (though I like what Shved brings and I think he can do some nice things at his size).

If Mudiay or Russell are taken, I couldn't argue if we went Winslow, WCS, or Okafor.

We are all at the point where we are splitting hairs on these guys, like saying "does WCS really like playing basketball" and "I dont know if Winslow could play the 2". Like if WCS was only in it for the money he could have gone just as high last year, got his check and mope about it instead of going hard on defense each and every night. As for Winslow, we are in an era where positions are arbitrary and don't mean as much anymore. Yes, you need a point to run the offense and yes, you need a big who can man the middle on defense. But as long as you can can guard wings, hit an open shot, or provide some other asset on offense you can play the 2-4 with the right players around you.
RE: RE: I get the whole Tyson Chandler trade thing  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:33 pm : link
In comment 12306505 DanMetroMan said:
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why trade Chandler just to draft WCS whose most common comparison is Chandler himself.

But WCS is going to be an absolute animal in the NBA. His D is the safest asset in this entire draft by a mile. Okafor's O has way more bust potential than WCS's D.

And WCS's offense is going to be better in the NBA where he'll be able to play with talented offensive guards and have more space to play with. He is going to be a strong PnR player like Chandler, and that alone will give him offensive value.

WCS might be the best player in the draft imo. You guys are seriously underrating how well his game projects to the NBA and how truly amazing of a defensive prospect he is.



His rebounding is nothing special and his offensive upside is nil. The Knicks could add a Mudiay + a Robin Lopez or Asik... and be FAR better off than a rare premium pick on a guy like this. Heck, Biyombo averaged 5 and 6 with 1.5 blocks in 19.5 minutes in his age 22 season and all he will cost is money. 25 or so minutes per game he's likely giving you the same 8 and 8 that WCS can + the Knicks can take a high upside guy at 4. Robin Lopez 10 and 7 with 1.4 blocks AND he's a high effort guy. Are you telling me WCS upside is far greater than Lopez? I don't see it AT ALL.


Well thats why you aren't an NBA scout. Larry Bird called him the "$100 million man". I'll take his word against what you see in him any day.

That said you do make a great point. I don't really know how likely it is we can land Lopez or Asik, but there are a few other guys out there like Koufos and Ajinca that are more up for grabs.

I forgot about Biyombo. I can't see Charlotte not matching an offer for him though. Al Jefferson will be 31. But I would rather take Biyombo and draft Okafor or Mudiay then go for WCS.
Of  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:33 pm : link
the guys being named WCS has by far the lowest "dreamability" rating and the Knicks need to shoot for someone you can dream on. This isn't the NFL where filling holes is just as good as looking for a HR. This is 1 shot deal (for at least the next 2 seasons, likely more) where you have a silver bullet and a chance to strike it big. A defensive specialist isn't where it's at.
It's not like Larry Bird is an infallible scout.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/29/2015 4:34 pm : link
Plenty of NBA people thought Olowakandi and Kwame Brown were franchise guys too.
My  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:35 pm : link
point is even if you "love" WCS... there 100% are guys out there who can give you VERY similar production. You really think over the next 2-3 seasons a Robin Lopez season is going to be "far worse" than a best case WCS season? I just don't buy it.
WCS  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:42 pm : link
and ANY of the FA PG's that are realistic (Dragic ain't coming) or Mudiay or Russell + Lopez, Biyombo, Asik etc is an absolute NO BRAINER for me.
RE: My  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:44 pm : link
In comment 12306526 DanMetroMan said:
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point is even if you "love" WCS... there 100% are guys out there who can give you VERY similar production. You really think over the next 2-3 seasons a Robin Lopez season is going to be "far worse" than a best case WCS season? I just don't buy it.


No I completely agree with you. When you brought up Biyombo that intrigued me because WCS is around the same age and the same type of ceiling as Biyombo. We'd have to over pay him to make Charlotte uncomfortable about re-signing him. I wouldn't mind giving the rest of our cap space to Biyombo if we give Monroe the max and get Mudiay.

Theres a good chance Charlotte is forced to take a big if hezonja, Johnson, and Winslow are all off the board. They'd be reaching if they took Dekker so I could easily see them having to choose between Turner, Kaminsky and Lyles. If that is the case Biyombo can be a realistic option.
Larry  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:46 pm : link
Sanders feature
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Eric  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:46 pm : link
is right, Biyombo has issues with fouls but I still think he'd be a nice grab for our needs and he's 23 next season a nice piece of the puzzle.
RE: Eric  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:50 pm : link
In comment 12306546 DanMetroMan said:
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is right, Biyombo has issues with fouls but I still think he'd be a nice grab for our needs and he's 23 next season a nice piece of the puzzle.


Fouls are something that drastically decrease as players develop. He averaged 4.1 fouls per 36. Mozgov as a reference averaged 4.0 per 36. Its not ideal but I don't think its a red flag by any means, especially since he is 23.
RE: Larry  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:52 pm : link
In comment 12306544 DanMetroMan said:
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Sanders feature Link - ( New Window )


He was becoming an elite center in the league and just walked away. Props to him. He doesn't need the money to be happy.
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/29/2015 4:53 pm : link
wonder if Biyombo and Mudiay know each other at all? How many Congolese top bball players can there be?
RE: I  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 4:58 pm : link
In comment 12306559 DanMetroMan said:
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wonder if Biyombo and Mudiay know each other at all? How many Congolese top bball players can there be?


He moved here when he was 5. I'm sure they've had to cross paths somewhere along the line though.

If we get Mudiay hopefully that intrigues Biyombo lol.
With Tibbs going to NO most likely  
giantsfan44ab : 5/29/2015 5:02 pm : link
Can't see New Orleans not signing Asik back.
RE: I  
EricNY33 : 5/29/2015 5:18 pm : link
In comment 12306559 DanMetroMan said:
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wonder if Biyombo and Mudiay know each other at all? How many Congolese top bball players can there be?


It's a small fraternity, I'm sure.
RE: Tyson  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/29/2015 6:04 pm : link
In comment 12306507 DanMetroMan said:
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Chandler is a horrendous offensive player.


Wrong. Tyson Chandler is an extremely limited offensive player, but his PnR skills make him a valuable offensive player.

Did you forget a couple of years ago where Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton were great in the PnR and one of the keys to an elite Knicks offense? A big who can screen, move, and finish like Tyson Chandler forces the defense to be sucked in and opens up so much space for the rest of his teammates.

Calling Tyson Chandler a horrendous offensive player is just wrong. And WCS has the same kind of potential on offense, he should thrive with a strong PG.

I don't agree with you at all about WCS. If I'm the Knicks I'd take one of the top 4 guys over WCS, but I think WCS is going to be great in the NBA. I don't get how anyone can view WCS as a guy with a low ceiling. A better Tyson Chandler is a great player.
the day he gets drafted  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/29/2015 6:12 pm : link
is the day that WCS becomes the most versatile defensive player in the NBA. From Day 1 he'll be that guy. I love the Brow, but the Brow can't guard perimeter players like WCS can. Maybe LeBron, but LeBron can't protect the rim like WCS.

This is a rare talent, if only people gave a shit about D as much as they do Offense they'd understand what a force this guy is.
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