NFT: New York Rangers Fans

In comment 12307894 MookGiants said:

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after that 49ers game, but I'm more sad after this one which is worse. ... Shitty, shitty feeling.

boy did that describe it perfectly.

What a cute and heartwarming thread!! How very Lifetime !!

Be organizing your next skipole session at the Blue Oyster? Or did that end as soon as the Isles lost?

I'm not as bearish on the future as some, but this was definitely a terrific opportunity that will be tough to get back to. Very disappointing. Hank sorely deserves better.

Including Hank. He (and the entire defense) had a bad game three.

Pens shut the Rangers down
Caps shut the Rangers down
Lightning shut the Rangers down when they had too.

Some outstanding efforts helped the Rangers get goals but the offense in general was shut down by every opponent in these playoffs.

Fuck you B!

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Newbs don't get shout outs.




Jk bud. Sorry for the omission. You're a prince.

Gets chippy but it's so much better than HF Boards....I get the sense most like the Rangers or hockey more than any other sport/league.

If have given up posting here for a few months and let you people purge me if it's meant they'd win.

Camille "The eel" Henry days with Andy Bathgate and Don Nevins and all I have is 1 Cup to show for it. I feel like a Jets fan in that regard

The circle jerk grows

seems like you know a lot about circle jerks, you must have eaten a bunch of the cookies or else why would you mention it twice? How does it taste? Salty?

This is what the Rangers do. We all know it. I can remember watching on a black and white in my bedroom back when Espo and the boys were contenders but really pretenders and hoping upon hope we could win a cup. Listening to Marv and Red Light describe to me what was happening better then I could see it. You see, my Dad wasn't a hockey fan so I watched the games alone. Boy was I pumped when I got my Rangers Starter jacket back then. Of course we win it in 94 the year I graduate law school and during the heart of it all I'm studying for the Bar Exam and can't truly enjoy it. I watched alone then too.

21 years later I still watch alone, but not really , because now it's with with all of you and we fall in love with this team. We were done against the Caps and came back. We were done against TB and won that game 6. Last night it wasn't meant to be. But as Rangers fans we know it's not meant to be, that's just who we are. And that, my friends is what makes us Rangers fans. LGR!!

both to improve the team, and fit it all under the cap. Just re-signing their RFAs will be tight.

Overall not bad. Goes down real smooth with a rangers loss.

In comment 12308008 Fish said:

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The circle jerk grows

Yeah, but this is nothing compared to when the Fishstick fans gather to observe their melted ice water they paid $20 for.

beer fart infested Nassau shithole colosseum seat?

Isles fans are paying top dollar for that garbage. Even though none of them have been alive long enough to experience their relevance four decades ago.

In comment 12308022 JonC said:

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both to improve the team, and fit it all under the cap. Just re-signing their RFAs will be tight.

I haven't done the analysis but the Cap going to $71.5 million is better than expected and helps. Unless he keeps MSL at which i'm showing up at his house with pitch and fork... the group should remain together another year.

All bets off one year from now -- next year is the last prime run season left with this group. A lot of eggs in one basket.

Can it happen after that? Maybe, but would be like the Caps the last few years after their Presidents Trophy years.. some pieces there, but a long shot to go all the way,.

"In Hartford, Oscar Lindberg, who was taken in 2010 by the Arizona Coyotes and traded to the Rangers organization, has embraced additional responsibilities and has rewarded that decision with increased offensive production. Lindberg has three goals and 13 assists in 15 games, second on the team in playoff scoring. He has been especially productive with the man advantage, tallying a number of assists and setting up plays on the half boards.

Lindberg’s contributions are being felt up front, but Brady Skjei brought a whole new type of fluidity to the Wolf Pack defense corps. Skjei only has one goal and two assists in 15 playoff games, but has been highly regarded as a calming, competitive influence on those around him. Skjei has been a shutdown defenseman, perhaps a bit of foreshadowing to what the Rangers can expect in the near future. "

MSL and Hags are the two potential problem contracts. Even if they don't re-sign MSL, Hags in the $3-4M range (and some say $4-5M) is where I'd consider trying to build a trade for the upgrade the roster needs.

This team is built much like the Canucks were, and something about that leaves these very skilled teams falling short in the end (running out of gas, lacking grit and physicality at the pinnacle of needing it, etc).

but I'd still plan on making the upgrades, they need some snarl on defense and in front of the net for some more "easy" cleanup goals.

It's not that the team is bad or in need of talent as much as teams need change. Every successful team goes stale and reaches their peak as a team yet the returns diminish as they become more predictable and actually easier to defend.

It's kinda like the Kings. They're great but the returns dimished. We saw the 49ers who were/are a reat team that couldn't get over the hump and needed to make change before returns dimished.

Not saying full scale changes or any hyperbole but i would be very wary the President's Trophy winning team returns next season if only a slight modification occurs. Meaning, something significant on the front six needs to change rather than just the later lines (same holds true for the defense).

I wouldn't be shocked to see Stepan traded. I think one of Girardi/Klein goes.

Where did you hear that? He scores ~15 goals per year and will be 27 next year. I like his energy and his defense, but no team in the NHL is giving him that.

Mats just took 4 yrs, $18 million and Hagelin isnt getting that. I cant see him getting more than 4 yrs, $12-14mm... somewhere in there, which is affordable.

But if they feel he can be replaced by Lindberg... then I'm fine packaging him with Klein somewhere too.

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That's where I'd look as well.

There's speculation on the RFA prices on the SNY blog, MAB. I tend to think $3M would be more than fair, but...

I know he had a shitty playoffs, but who knows how healthy he was. He's still a bargain at 3 million for a second pair RD.

Hags would get $4.5+ if he was a UFA, but he isnt.

At least one dman needs to be cleared out. McDonagh is the only untouchable. Several have NTCs, so they'd have to consent. I wont venture a guess as to which one.

But he's likely the guy to fetch a good return - and doesn't have a NTC. I'd like to move Girardi but he has a NMC for another two years.

Stepan's a guy who may be swapped for a less talented, but grittier player. I thought he struggled this post-season.

But I don't think Sather is going to keep the forward core as is. A Stepan for JVR/Wheeler caliber player is something I could see being done. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it, though. Stepan's still a bit underrated by fans, IMO.

We'll see.

-8 plus/minus in playoffs

My Dad, who made me a Ranger fan, passed away earlier this year. My sister told him that the Rangers won the Presidents Cup and he seemed to know what that meant and seemed happy. But it was not to be. I was there when they won the cup in 94. Hopefully they can do it again in my lifetime.

Put me in a coma and wake me up next May when it matters, all the other sports, at least right now, are gravy.

Lindberg is going to be a really good two way player. I see his offense exceeding Rangers fans expectations. He also plays with a 'sneer' to his game we could use more of.

they re-sign him. I think Klingberg also has a good shot at making the team as a fourth liner, assuming they re-sign him as well. Skjei could make the team right out of camp.

In comment 12308940 Torrag said:

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Lindberg is going to be a really good two way player. I see his offense exceeding Rangers fans expectations. He also plays with a 'sneer' to his game we could use more of.

From what I've read and saw in limited action from Lindberg... frankly its a shame he wasnt brought up to help this team try to win a Cup. I've seen lesser players come in and meaningfully help their clubs - but we decided to dress MSL and Sheppard (with all do respect to JS, he played as hard as he could) - but those two guys were dead wood on a nightly basis.

AV, like Torts, ... we saw it with JT Miller... they dont trust their scouting reports and young players enough.

In comment 12308996 MetsAreBack said:

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AV, like Torts, ... we saw it with JT Miller... they dont trust their scouting reports and young players enough.

Yeah, awesome observation. Must be why rookies Hayes and Fast didn't make the team too while Miller's off ice discipline issues should have been ignored.

Mcllrath is outta here also.

I could see Hagelin going as well

In comment 12309047 bxgiants4 said:

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Mcllrath is outta here also. I could see Hagelin going as well

Hagelin is going to be a tough call. If slats can move Girardi or (some won't like this) Staal, the team could have enough dollars to bring Hags back without jeapordizing next years duo of Kreider and Hayes. No way slats can allow those two mountains to walk.

It's less about being eager to move Klein, and more about having to make decisions to create some movement ability under the cap.

Imv, they need to adjust the roster in a manner that brings some more snarl/physicality that levels the playing field in terms of playing sixty aggressive minutes, getting dirty goals in front of the net, etc.

In order to achieve the movement ability, at least one sizable contract will need to be moved. The candidates would appear to begin with Klein, Boyle, or Girardi on defense, and Stepan or Hags on offense. They can probably move Talbot for a draft pick, but a McIlrath is perhaps a trade sweetener at best now.

This is where Deej steps in and provides some longer term vision. grin

Klein was also over-matched at times on the second pairing during the regular season. Yandle will be fine on the second pairing, but the team lacks right-handed defensemen.

I also think the team views Girardi a lot differently than many fans do.

floating the idea of talking to the Blues about Nash. As talented as he is, his penchant for disappearing too often in big spots is part and parcel for what ails this team deep in the playoffs. Pivotal offseason for NYR ... really interested in seeing how aggressive (or not) The Satherian chooses to be.

In comment 12309184 BrettNYG10 said:

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Klein was also over-matched at times on the second pairing during the regular season. Yandle will be fine on the second pairing, but the team lacks right-handed defensemen. I also think the team views Girardi a lot differently than many fans do.

McDonagh played RD very well in Sochi. So he could move over, and then Yandle moves up to the second pair. Probably Yandle-DG as the second pair. Not ideal since DG doesnt eat up ice like McD and Staal, but you probably be wasting McD's scoring if he doesnt have a free hand to pinch.

I'd love to move Nash. The guy just avoid getting to the dirty places. I thought he embarrassed himself in these playoffs, and I'm tired of hearing about all the not-scoring shit he does.

JVR+assets would be really interesting to me if Toronto would go for it.

The Rangers don't need to get tougher, they need to get better. All this crap about "toughness" is stupid and outdated.
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Marty's a goner already. You trade Nash, and now that's 63 goals gone from the roster. How are they going to replace all of that? They're not going to get equal production for Nash, not at his salary. Let's say you get 20-25 goals in return for him. What then?

If St Louis is a possibility, what about a Nash for Backes trade? Possible? Desirable?

I have been a defender of his for quite some time. I'll admit he sucked in the TB series and wasn't real good in the WAS series.

Still like the player, and still like the contract.

I'm okay trading him, but to me it only makes sense in the context of creating a spot for Allen/McIlrath or less likely, Skjei. And that should only be done if the FO/coaches think one of those guys can step right in and play regular minutes without being sheltered (further beating the shit out of 27/5/18.

It isn't a big money saver of a move. I don't like that angle. The (MAYBE) $2m that you end up saving from a trade of Klein should be a deal kicker, not the motivator.

From everything I've been reading, he's clearly their best D prospect and looks like he's at least very close to being ready. They really could use another defenseman who can skate other than McDonagh.

If we do go with the same defense, I'd have our 7th play 60 or so games, rotating through to give certain defenseman a break (namely Boyle and Girardi). Girardi has looked gassed these past two seasons. Sit him for 10-15 games during the year. You have to make the arrogant assumption that you're going to make the playoffs with this group.