NJ.com: Why Marshall Newhouse Believes He's Better Now

but at (end of Sept.) 27, this could wind up a steal..He's far from that but something to ponder imo

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but there's nothing in that article that I can find that makes me feel he's an improved player.

He's still young enough that there could be some upside to tap. If he has matured he has a body of work and NFL experience to draw on to improve his game. He tested well coming into the league athletically and possesses a prototype RT physique at 6'4/320#/34"/10.5". If we're going to go anywhere this season we need an OT to step up and perform with Beatty down.

I don't think they plan on him at LT this year (paraphrase) re; Flowers

a short window of opportunity to prove it stays this way, at RT, at the start of training camp.
Theoretically 4 new OL(EF at LT,JP at LG, WR at C, anMN at RT),
5 if you want with GS at RG not LG.
TC will seek to find the best 5 quickly.
Camp will be competitive.

He will definitely need it here.

My guess is that if he can't hold his own that he will be replaced by Geoff Schwartz and Jerry will take over at RT.

In comment 12312579 Giants2012 said:

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I don't think they plan on him at LT this year (paraphrase) re; Flowers

He said that was before Beatty's injury. I listened to the interview as well.

In comment 12312624 Mason said:

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In comment 12312579 Giants2012 said: Quote: I don't think they plan on him at LT this year (paraphrase) re; Flowers He said that was before Beatty's injury. I listened to the interview as well.

I drifted in and out b/c those two give such a great interview (sarcasm) so you're likely correct. I just heard about how strong Flowers is and that he didn't think Flowers was inmthenllans for LT.

In the plans

you have to go earn it, take it away from someone else. You aren't "penciled in", granted, gifted or otherwise handed a starting job.

Go get it Newhouse!!!

For some reason, I remember him as a staple on Green Bay's line. Maybe because in the two years he started, they were so good.

Hard to tell how good/bad he will be by judging that time in his career, in my opinion. The Packers didn't run - at all, I mean, during 2011 and 2012. They didn't have a rusher eclipse 600 yards in either of those years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers tied for the team lead in rushing TDs in 2012 with two.

They also had 2 offensive coordinators in those two years. McAdoo switched in that time from TEs to QBs coach. I'm sure he saw something in Newhouse.

Under Joe Philbin as OC, Newhouse rose from a 5th round draft pick in 2010 to a starter in 2011. He started again in 2012. Then, Mike McCarthy got weird. McCarthy moved Bulaga to LT and Newhouse was forced to compete for the RT job and eventually lost the job in camp. This, from a FOXSports story explains the situation that ensued:

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"Marshall Newhouse, as I've stated, I view as a starter, which he has been here," McCarthy said Sept. 6, 2013. "He may or may not play in the game." So, to recap, Newhouse may not play in a game, but he was still viewed as a starter. It was a bit of an odd situation. came in and moved Bulaga to LT and Newhouse had to compete for a job at RT. He started camp as starting RT and lost his job.

I don't know what happened. Does he just suck? You can look at the hurries/sacks allowed figures, see he got replaced and hasn't bounced back and just judge from that.

But at some point in the not too distant past, he was the starting LT for the Packers during a 15-1 campaign and an 11-1 campaign.

I hope he does well here.
Link to Fox Sports story quoted above - ( New Window )

even now, despite Beatty's injury, and are hoping that somebody steps up and takes control at LT. I say this knowing full well that Flowers played LT in college. I think the Giants want a RT in the mold of McKenzie to make the running game go and I think Flowers has the potential to be even better than McKenzie. But if Newhouse doesn't pan out, they'll be forced to play Flowers at LT and either pencil in Newhouse at RT or maybe hope that Bamiro, who is as big as a house, is athletic enough to play the position.

And if all goes well, he should be the starting LT and Flowers should be the starting RT.

but that injury history is beyond worrisome...

From nj.com: Missed two games with a back injury in 2011; Tore his left triceps late in the 2012 season; Tore his right ACL in Week 15 of the 2013 campaign; Tore his right ACL again in Week 8 of 2014

From the same nj.com piece, from an nfl exec regarding his health: "Horrible. Was horrible before he signed in St. Louis. Mess."

Just don't see how a guy with that history coming off his second ACL tear, which occurred just 8 months ago. Fact is, even if signed, he's unlikely to last the season. At this point it's better to pin your hopes on Newhouse improving. If he hasn't I'd rather shuffle around the guys they have and hope someone can step up at guard.

quality execution for an OL. Could it be Newhouse has found that mentality? Hope so!

In Beatty's case it seems his poor 2013 was more a mental issue than anything else.

as a veteran, and a larger player, with Pugh at left tackle.

so you have two experienced players on the left, maybe masking some athletic ceiling that newhouse may have, while allowing schwatz and flowers to use power on the right.

and newhouse, having played on the left, may help pugh there, more than a rook.

In comment 12313350 GeofromNJ said:

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even now, despite Beatty's injury, and are hoping that somebody steps up and takes control at LT. I say this knowing full well that Flowers played LT in college. I think the Giants want a RT in the mold of McKenzie to make the running game go and I think Flowers has the potential to be even better than McKenzie. But if Newhouse doesn't pan out, they'll be forced to play Flowers at LT and either pencil in Newhouse at RT or maybe hope that Bamiro, who is as big as a house, is athletic enough to play the position.

RT is easier to find than a LT. If the Giants desperately want anything, it's to find a LT. If Flowers can do the job, it's his. They'll make do with someone else (Newhouse, Pugh, Schwartz, ???) at RT.

In comment 12312569 Ira said:

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but there's nothing in that article that I can find that makes me feel he's an improved player.

That was exactly my feeling as I finished reading it

In comment 12313350 GeofromNJ said:

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even now, despite Beatty's injury, and are hoping that somebody steps up and takes control at LT. I say this knowing full well that Flowers played LT in college. I think the Giants want a RT in the mold of McKenzie to make the running game go and I think Flowers has the potential to be even better than McKenzie. But if Newhouse doesn't pan out, they'll be forced to play Flowers at LT and either pencil in Newhouse at RT or maybe hope that Bamiro, who is as big as a house, is athletic enough to play the position.

The Giants didn't draft Flowers to play RT, although that's probably where he would've started out if Beatty hadn't gotten hurt. They drafted him to eventually replace Beatty at LT. The only thing that's changed is the timetable.

They signed Newhouse to be a swing tackle, a reserve not a starter. With the injury to Beatty, he's being pressed into service as a starter...for now. That could change if one of their younger OTs steps up.

They ran to the podium to pick the left tackle in Flowers, Beatty's injury makes the time now to seize the gig.

It's more likely they sign Jake Long than put Bamiro or other into the starting lineup at RT.

But I'm sure they'll be scanning the waiver wire just in case someone serviceable gets cut loose.

but they're keeping an eye on him, and might prefer to gamble on him over a Bamiro, for example.

Root for Newhouse to succeed, even if he's average.

And right now Newhouse is what we have, so of course I'm rooting for him to resurrect his career.

Newhouse was brutal at RT for the Bengals. I thought the Bengals made a huge mistake letting Anthony Collins walk (I really wanted the Giants to sign Collins in 2013). But Collins was even more brutal in Tampa Bay. You just never know.

and to play halfway decent before Beatty gets back, that's it!

to ask McAdoo would be: Why did Newhouse struggle in GB and other places? And, how has he made progress re: addressing those issues?