For the 4th DT spot? I know that Jenkins, Hankins and Ellis will be rotating this season and are locks to make the roster. So who do you prefer be the next guy? I had high hopes for Bromley but he has not showed anything. Kuhn has had some injury but did not wow when he was in there. Has Kuhn been getting more snaps in OTAs and mini camp?
I think that I would like to see Bromley win the 4th spot with Kuhn as a 5th/practice squad guy.
any chance we start hankins and ellis?
The Giants have other choices at DT, but for now it's Kuhn and Hankins.
Bromley is a young guy with good body, great attitude and excellent chance to ascend. He makes the roster and plays this year, definitely.
Do you not have an opinion on who you think that is?
Looks like he'll have to nut up or shut up.
Working with 1s at the start of training camp may just mean they want to see what he can do.
DT spot next to Hankins looks like open competition to me.
...and there will be a lot of room for role players in specialty packages.
If it has clicked and they feel really good about a player, it saves roster spots by waiving a Kuhn, a Selvie or Ayers, etc.
I'd love for Bromley to be a great 3 technique for us...we need to hit on him.
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In comment 12332711 Headhunter said:
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Do you not have an opinion on who you think that is?
But what good are opinions of fans who haven't really seen either player this year? All this type of exercise accomplishes is to build expectations up or lower expectations that are based on faulty criteria and perception.
I mean, for a lot of BBI'ers, Kuhn will always perform as he has in the past, and Bromley will always be a reach of a draft pick until they prove otherwise, and prove that to a vast majority of people who have no clue what the fuck they are supposed to be looking for in a DL player.
In that capacity, Headhunter's response makes sense. The best guy is a great answer and the one I'd like to see.
The best guy - as seen by the staff - not by some schmuck who consistently seems to not know what the hell he is looking at.
^^^ Seems more of a statement about Jenkins being near done at DT. His play suffered a lot last season to me. Maybe new coaching personnel agrees with such assessment.
If they keep five DT's, one of them is Jenkins as he can play DT/DE, they cut loose a DE (Selvie or Ayers), and still might need to find a roster spot with a cut elsewhere as the DL would stand at ten players when they normally keep nine.
Nail on head. Im sure a Syracuse or BC tie maybe some time spent at West Point or college team captain or a feel good story is mixed in with each of these Coach's pets.
Just a thought and maybe too daring to ever happen, but I don't think Hankins or Ellis are going to be on the field in third and longs.....Moore, Avery/Bromley, Wynn/Odi, JPP
He definitely passes the eye test. He's enormous, seems to have a little "nasty" in him, and by all accounts is a good teammate. But I just don't think he's a football player.
I'm hopeful Bromley will flash early and become more consistent as the season goes on.
I think we have a little more flexibility with the DT's from a pass rushing perspective as Hankins has legitimate juice to get after the passer. Very few interior OL can handle him one-on-one. If he can stay in shape to remain on the field for more third downs, we have a lot more options (sliding a DE inside) for our pressure packages.
Bromley needs more time on the field to be able to evaluate.
If you had to choose, you go with Bromley for obvious reasons which I also won't list here.
So, go for the kid.
Kuhn is a low-end backup. If he ever had to play for an extended period of time, it wouldn't be good.
Bromley might actually be a solid player.
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Kuhn just has not shown anything for longer.
So you prefer Kuhn for his consistency and longevity?
I prefer Bromley because I'm a Syracuse fan.
He hasn't been awful, he's made the team, but he's a depth/role player at best. I guess by some standard that is a 'late round success' to some, but not me. He's a JAG. He isn't going to be playing above Bromley or Ellis come August.
Kuhn was a pretty good run stopper but then went thru a string of injuries. So, last year was a show me year - it was disappointing.
Bromley hasn't shown anything? That's ridiculous. First, he was a rookie, early on he had limited opportunities - when he had the shot he showed what everyone reported - he needed a lot of work re: the run.
Bromley is younger and if he has improved as a run stopper may have the higher ceiling.
Just like herzlich to
If it has clicked and they feel really good about a player, it saves roster spots by waiving a Kuhn, a Selvie or Ayers, etc.
He's already hit his ceiling...mediocrity. Bromley should beat him out fairly easily.
go with suspect
Years ago Parcells called this type of player ... (serviceable but nothing special) .. a coach killer. If we want to get better we need to move along
Kuhn hasn't totaled any of his teammates yet.