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NFT: Planet looking ‘more like an immense pile of filth’ - Pope

Ira : 6/18/2015 6:49 pm
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what has been arguably the most keenly anticipated papal encyclical of modern times, Pope Francis yesterday called on “all people...to enter into a dialogue about global environmental deterioration”.

Laudato Si (Praise Be With You) is effectively the first encyclical (formal papal teaching) of Pope Francis since his election in March 2013 and in it he touches on many of the socio-economic and political themes which have already so clearly defined his pontificate.

The pope begins the encyclical by saying that “our common home” is “like a sister with whom we share our life”. However, that sister now cries out to us “because of the harm we have inflicted by our irresponsible use and abuse of the goods with which God has endowed her”....

The Irish Times - ( New Window )
Thought this was gonna be a Francesar thread.  
Mr. Bungle : 6/18/2015 7:00 pm : link
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I am not a fan of religion in general  
JerryNYG : 6/18/2015 7:35 pm : link
or the Catholic Church in particular. However, I like this Pope. He has made a lot of public statements that make sense to me, this one included.
He also said that  
buford : 6/18/2015 7:43 pm : link
caring for nature was incompatible with abortion and birth control (to solve over population) is not the problem.

Not a fan...  
bradshaw44 : 6/18/2015 8:04 pm : link
Popes are people. Nothing he says holds weight with me.
Not happy  
Svengali : 6/18/2015 8:23 pm : link
with the pope getting involved in politics.
RE: Not happy  
Chris in Philly : 6/18/2015 8:27 pm : link
In comment 12334045 Svengali said:
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with the pope getting involved in politics.


Popes have always gotten involved in politics.
RE: RE: Not happy  
GMenLTS : 6/18/2015 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12334051 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 12334045 Svengali said:


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with the pope getting involved in politics.



Popes have always gotten involved in politics.


Politics is pretty much their business.
and always has been since like,  
GMenLTS : 6/18/2015 8:39 pm : link
forever.
Not only that, but we've always taken into account  
Bill L : 6/18/2015 8:51 pm : link
Their scientific expertise when making policy. Just ask Galileo.
Did he just watch the Kingsman?  
ZogZerg : 6/18/2015 8:53 pm : link
Maybe he can give out some free WiFi....
HAHA  
buford : 6/18/2015 8:58 pm : link
that movie was great!
RE: Not happy  
ThreePoints : 6/18/2015 9:06 pm : link
In comment 12334045 Svengali said:
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with the pope getting involved in politics.


Not happy with religion being so intermingled with politics, but thats the world we live in. Welcome to 2015.
Popes were far more politically influential centuries ago  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2015 9:22 pm : link
They didn't call Julius II the Warrior Pope for nothing.

I do find it amusing how many people who have little use for religion are all a-twitter because the pope says things they agree with.
RE: Not a fan...  
Mr. Bungle : 6/18/2015 9:40 pm : link
In comment 12334019 bradshaw44 said:
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Popes are people. Nothing he says holds weight with me.

Are there non-people whose words hold weight with you?
RE: Popes were far more politically influential centuries ago  
Chris in Philly : 6/18/2015 9:40 pm : link
In comment 12334145 Greg from LI said:
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They didn't call Julius II the Warrior Pope for nothing.

I do find it amusing how many people who have little use for religion are all a-twitter because the pope says things they agree with.


You really can't grasp why something like this might be a little exciting for people who are not catholic or even Christian?
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Chris in Philly : 6/18/2015 9:41 pm : link
In comment 12334124 ThreePoints said:
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with the pope getting involved in politics.



Not happy with religion being so intermingled with politics, but thats the world we live in. Welcome to 2015.


Welcome also to 4000 BC and every year since.
2015?  
JesseS : 6/18/2015 10:27 pm : link
they've never been separate lol. One might say that religion was the first organized politics.
glad to see so many people  
bbfanva : 6/19/2015 4:53 am : link
are pro-life and anti abortion like the pope..

(120) Since everything is interrelated, concern for the protection of nature is also incompatible with the justification of abortion. How can we genuinely teach the importance of concern for other vulnerable beings, however troublesome or inconvenient they may be, if we fail to protect a human embryo, even when its presence is uncomfortable and creates difficulties? “If personal and social sensitivity towards the acceptance of the new life is lost, then other forms of acceptance that are valuable for society also wither away.”

Glad to see so many on the creationism bandwagon too..

75) A spirituality which forgets God as all-powerful and Creator is not acceptable. That is how we end up worshipping earthly powers, or ourselves usurping the place of God, even to the point of claiming an unlimited right to trample his creation underfoot. The best way to restore men and women to their rightful place, putting an end to their claim to absolute dominion over the earth, is to speak once more of the figure of a Father who creates and who alone owns the world. Otherwise, human beings will always try to impose their own laws and interests on reality...

(77) “By the word of the Lord the heavens were made” (Ps 33:6). This tells us that the world came about as the result of a decision, not from chaos or chance, and this exalts it all the more. The creating word expresses a free choice. The universe did not emerge as the result of arbitrary omnipotence, a show of force or a desire for self-assertion. Creation is of the order of love. God’s love is the fundamental moving force in all created things: “For you love all things that exist, and detest none of the things that you have made; for you would not have made anything if you had hated it” (Wis 11:24). Every creature is thus the object of the Father’s tenderness, who gives it its place in the world. Even the fleeting life of the least of beings is the object of his love, and in its few seconds of existence, God enfolds it with his affection. Saint Basil the Great described the Creator as “goodness without measure,” while Dante Alighieri spoke of “the love which moves the sun and the stars”. Consequently, we can ascend from created things “to the greatness of God and to his loving mercy.”

and I guess, after all that hoopla, he is a "denier".

(188) There are certain environmental issues where it is not easy to achieve a broad consensus. Here I would state once more that the Church does not presume to settle scientific questions or to replace politics. But I am concerned to encourage an honest and open debate so that particular interests or ideologies will not prejudice the common good.

Looks what you find when you actually read what was written..
RE: RE: Not happy  
Svengali : 6/19/2015 7:44 am : link
In comment 12334051 Chris in Philly said:
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with the pope getting involved in politics.
I understand, I still do not like it.


Popes have always gotten involved in politics.
How is the health of our  
rebel yell : 6/19/2015 7:44 am : link
planet political? Hell, I'm no tree hugger, but I sure would like to see my daughter grow to be old without having to wear breathing apparatus to do it. I don't care if it's political or not, happy the Pope put it out there.
I am not Catholic but I am curious. Do any Catholics feel  
wgenesis123 : 6/19/2015 7:49 am : link
obligated to believe as he believes when he addresses political footballs such as abortion and global warming?
"China"  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/19/2015 7:55 am : link
and they don't do Pope...

enough said....
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