I missed the game. I'm sitting here today watching the Jays/O's game and the announcers are talking about Tony Pena backing away and refusing to slap hands with ARod as he rounded 1st base. Is that true? If so, that's F'n bullshit. I could care less what Penas opinion is of ARod or anyone else. Although it's a joke that the guys of the 70's act as though they were all saints. But anyways, ARod hit a HR to help the Yankees take the lead in a ballgame. Does that not matter to Pena? Isn't the object supposed to be to win the game?
Again, I don't care who Tony Pena does and doesn't like or respect. When a player on your team hits a HR, that helps your team. If Pena is so antonARod that he can't celebrate team success because of him, perhaps he should resign?
No idea if good guy or not, and we will not find out by whether he decides to sell th ball or not. What I will see, though, is that he seems like a freak, who catches 8000 baseballs? Can't he find some other things to do with his life?
I am a Yankees fan, I cheer arod when he makes plays for our team. His milestones, I could give two craps about. He is a multiple time cheater, but he plays for the Yankees.
Although I am pretty sure Pena hugged him at the plate
1) With or without steroids, it is still a great accomplishment.
2) That said, I am very torn about him. It is not like he cheated for a few years. A lot of reports have him using since his early days in Texas. Almost his entire career is tainted. Now, he is still super talented, so even if you knock off about 10-20%, he's still had a great career.
3) This season is very impressive for having missed a season and a half and at his age.
4) The kid that caught the ball - Most of these thousands of balls he caught were batting practice
5) I think he's an asshole. I am not saying he has to do anything. But, his whole story is merely self serving and attention whoring. Whether you like A-Rod or not, this kid is just an ass.
They have become petty and embarrassing. By dumb luck, the one game a season I went to a couple of years ago was Jeter's 3000th hit on tickets purchased weeks in advance. Last night was again the one game I went to with my son on tickets purchased weeks in advance as a fund raiser for his little league. Even factoring in the living legend status of Jeter, the contrast of how the Yankees as an organization handled these days was drastic.
They couldn't stop the congratulations, mentions on the scoreboard, etc. and then had a whole spread of shirts on the ready. There were more generic DJ3K shirts that we got, plus shirts they only put out on that day, which I plan to have framed with the ticket.
Last night, there was a quick congratulations message, nothing else, and nothing to commemorate the accomplishment. They can whine all they want about not paying his bonus as unmarketable. But, it is their refusal to market these milestones that makes them unmarketable. Plenty of people were purchasing A-Rod items and had they had anything secial there would have been lines. This line in the sand is about nothing but the new wave of Steinbrenners' cheapness.
I recall McGuire quite openly using whatever he took as it was in his locker for everyone to see no ? Shortly afterward its when it became so much more. Then everything snowballed.
Barry Bonds tripled in size, wore armour to the plate, etc.
Although a mute point I like to look at the "at bats" when records are broken, just to be curious.
Ruth at bats were so low compared to other top HR hitters.
Rose need something like 1500 more at bats just to tie Cobb
Yes records are made to be broken, but it will be interesting to see if Bonds or others from this tainted era make the hall, or if they do will it be with interesting comments on display. Maybe Tropicana and have a JUICE wing.
Sorry :)
McGuire was openly using andro, but not openly using steroids, which andro is used to mask.
As for Bonds, In think he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF. He was a HOFer before he ever allegedly used. His vanity is the supposed reason he used to prove a point to shallow fans, which I think he did.
and the crowd was certainly into it. However, it was not a sell out. Not even close. In fact, the secondary market saw only a small bump after Thursday's game once he got within one hit of 3,000. If this was Jeter, demand would have been through the roof. That, to me, is indicative of how A-Rod's accomplishments are being viewed by many fans. Plenty don't care, but plenty do.
This was also my first game this year, so I had a question about security. Have you been to other games this year? The snaking lines just to get to the security checkpoints to get through the doors is new. Is that new for the season, or new last night? It seriously delayed getting in the park. We got there about 6:30 and barely made it in for the start. I have never waited that long to get in the park. Not for the game that Jeter went for 3000, not for playoff games, not for opening day. It seemed like most people didn't know what was going on, so I just wondered when this was implemented.
I recall McGuire quite openly using whatever he took as it was in his locker for everyone to see no ? Shortly afterward its when it became so much more. Then everything snowballed.
Barry Bonds tripled in size, wore armour to the plate, etc.
Although a mute point I like to look at the "at bats" when records are broken, just to be curious.
Ruth at bats were so low compared to other top HR hitters.
Rose need something like 1500 more at bats just to tie Cobb
Yes records are made to be broken, but it will be interesting to see if Bonds or others from this tainted era make the hall, or if they do will it be with interesting comments on display. Maybe Tropicana and have a JUICE wing.
Sorry :)
McGuire was openly using andro, but not openly using steroids, which andro is used to mask.
As for Bonds, In think he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF. He was a HOFer before he ever allegedly used. His vanity is the supposed reason he used to prove a point to shallow fans, which I think he did.
Just a quick apology too. I saw McGwire's name spelled wrong in the post I replied to and just went with it. I kind of knew it was wrong but didn't change. Now, I just saw my reply and was wondering why I spelled it wrong.
Again, I don't care who Tony Pena does and doesn't like or respect. When a player on your team hits a HR, that helps your team. If Pena is so antonARod that he can't celebrate team success because of him, perhaps he should resign?
Jeter should have given the guy money.
Yeah, I would hope so. But I didn't see it and haven't checked out a replay yet. I was just going by what the guys on the other game were saying.
2) That said, I am very torn about him. It is not like he cheated for a few years. A lot of reports have him using since his early days in Texas. Almost his entire career is tainted. Now, he is still super talented, so even if you knock off about 10-20%, he's still had a great career.
3) This season is very impressive for having missed a season and a half and at his age.
4) The kid that caught the ball - Most of these thousands of balls he caught were batting practice
5) I think he's an asshole. I am not saying he has to do anything. But, his whole story is merely self serving and attention whoring. Whether you like A-Rod or not, this kid is just an ass.
They couldn't stop the congratulations, mentions on the scoreboard, etc. and then had a whole spread of shirts on the ready. There were more generic DJ3K shirts that we got, plus shirts they only put out on that day, which I plan to have framed with the ticket.
Last night, there was a quick congratulations message, nothing else, and nothing to commemorate the accomplishment. They can whine all they want about not paying his bonus as unmarketable. But, it is their refusal to market these milestones that makes them unmarketable. Plenty of people were purchasing A-Rod items and had they had anything secial there would have been lines. This line in the sand is about nothing but the new wave of Steinbrenners' cheapness.
Barry Bonds tripled in size, wore armour to the plate, etc.
Although a mute point I like to look at the "at bats" when records are broken, just to be curious.
Ruth at bats were so low compared to other top HR hitters.
Rose need something like 1500 more at bats just to tie Cobb
Yes records are made to be broken, but it will be interesting to see if Bonds or others from this tainted era make the hall, or if they do will it be with interesting comments on display. Maybe Tropicana and have a JUICE wing.
Sorry :)
As for Bonds, In think he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF. He was a HOFer before he ever allegedly used. His vanity is the supposed reason he used to prove a point to shallow fans, which I think he did.
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I recall McGuire quite openly using whatever he took as it was in his locker for everyone to see no ? Shortly afterward its when it became so much more. Then everything snowballed.
Barry Bonds tripled in size, wore armour to the plate, etc.
Although a mute point I like to look at the "at bats" when records are broken, just to be curious.
Ruth at bats were so low compared to other top HR hitters.
Rose need something like 1500 more at bats just to tie Cobb
Yes records are made to be broken, but it will be interesting to see if Bonds or others from this tainted era make the hall, or if they do will it be with interesting comments on display. Maybe Tropicana and have a JUICE wing.
Sorry :)
McGuire was openly using andro, but not openly using steroids, which andro is used to mask.
As for Bonds, In think he absolutely deserves to be in the HOF. He was a HOFer before he ever allegedly used. His vanity is the supposed reason he used to prove a point to shallow fans, which I think he did.