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NFT: TV Advice, 4K/Ultraflix

madhatter9382 : 6/19/2015 10:19 pm
looking into 4k tv's with ultraflix, just wondering if anyone has one and if they could give some feedback?



any info is much appreciated!
I don't have personal experience  
Bockman : 6/19/2015 10:25 pm : link
but will advise that 4k content is essentially non-existent at the moment. Seems like a waste of money, IMO.
Thanks  
madhatter9382 : 6/19/2015 10:36 pm : link
Thanks for the advice, i have read that content is pretty limited. I was looking into ultraflix because they seemed to have the most content. Seems like it could be the "future" and was wondering if it was worth it now but if theres no content then... obviously not.
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Bockman : 6/19/2015 10:38 pm : link
I love the latest and greatest myself, but it seems like a bit too early for 4k. I think by the time the programming comes around, you'll be in the market for a new TV regardless.
it definitely could be the future  
MookGiants : 6/19/2015 10:52 pm : link
but by the time the future becomes the present, prices on those sets will have dropped significantly and you'll already have an outdated version.
RE: it definitely could be the future  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/19/2015 11:18 pm : link
In comment 12335938 MookGiants said:
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but by the time the future becomes the present, prices on those sets will have dropped significantly and you'll already have an outdated version.

+1

One of the biggest technology mistakes people make is trying to future proof their purchase. It's never worth it for two reasons:

1) You can't predict the future. How's that 3D TV or HD-DVD player working out for you?

2) Tech always gets cheaper.
It's not a bad idea if you really want the best image quality  
illmatic : 6/19/2015 11:28 pm : link
possible. Yeah, you can wait a year (or years) for prices to drop, but do you really want to wait that long for a new TV? And if you buy a 1080p TV this year, are you really going to upgrade to a 4K set in a few years when prices drop? Probably not. So in my opinion it's a decent idea to just get a 4K set now if you find one at a reasonable price. Assuming you do want the best picture possible. If that doesn't matter to you then talking about 4K is probably silly in the first place.

And aren't the UltraHD blu-rays going to be in 4K? Seems like it's pretty much a lock that it's going to be the next step as far as HD goes at home.
RE: It's not a bad idea if you really want the best image quality  
MookGiants : 6/19/2015 11:31 pm : link
In comment 12335950 illmatic said:
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possible. Yeah, you can wait a year (or years) for prices to drop, but do you really want to wait that long for a new TV? And if you buy a 1080p TV this year, are you really going to upgrade to a 4K set in a few years when prices drop? Probably not. So in my opinion it's a decent idea to just get a 4K set now if you find one at a reasonable price. Assuming you do want the best picture possible. If that doesn't matter to you then talking about 4K is probably silly in the first place.

And aren't the UltraHD blu-rays going to be in 4K? Seems like it's pretty much a lock that it's going to be the next step as far as HD goes at home.


He's going to pay a 750-1k premium simply for the 4k that barely exists at this point.

He can get a set just as good, without 4k, right now for significantly less. You're paying a significant amount of money right now for 4k, it doesn't give you a better image quality than a premium set without 4k.

Better off putting the 1k away, and in 4-5 years, when 4k is probably finally becoming the norm, and upgrading at that point
and until  
MookGiants : 6/19/2015 11:33 pm : link
sports are in 4k, which is years away, I see no reason to get one.
4K content is coming via streaming  
81_Great_Dane : 6/20/2015 12:50 am : link
though broadcast is far off.

I'm not excited about Ultra-HD/4K TV. I'm much more excited about Dolby Vision/High Dynamic Range TV. But that hasn't quite arrived yet, either.
Then there's the viewing distance  
Stufftherun : 6/20/2015 6:49 am : link
and eyesight components that factor in. Depending on how far the average person is positioned from the tv (8 -12 ft or more perhaps) you may not be able to discern the difference between 4k TV and HD TV as well as your particular eyesight coming into play. As has been touched on previously, content availability comes into question as does the signal you're receiving from your provider.

The manufacturers are of course driving the market just as they did with 3D and in my opinion that was a completely contrived gimmick which flopped. In the case of 4k TV, you'd be ahead of the curve but much like that of a car buying process, you ultimately have to be completely satisfied with the commitment.
at Christmas time  
Steve in Greenwich : 6/20/2015 7:32 am : link
we purchased a 4K tv and have maybe watched 3-4 4K video clips since. With that being said I don't regret it. The reason for that is many of the newer sets that have the best picture quality of broadcast television happen to be 4K sets. We didn't buy the TV for its 4K capabilities, it just happened to be an added bonus. Manufacturers are attaching the 4K label to all of their higher end models in 2015 to get the extra bucks out of it; if you already have a good TV I would not upgrade just for 4K, but if its time for a new TV there's a good chance that a lot of the best picture quality tv's happen to be 4K.
A lot of the new 4K gear will have built-in upscaling  
81_Great_Dane : 6/20/2015 2:15 pm : link
so you'll see ersatz 4K.

The typical American screen size and viewing distance are the biggest factors against viewing distance. Americans typically sit around 9 feet from the screen. At that distance, you need a very large TV to see the difference between full Hi-Def (1080p) and 4K. So if you're looking at buying a TV that's, say, 60" or larger, or if you sit close to the screen, 4K makes sense today. Otherwise, meh.

True story: At 2014 Consumer Electronics Show, I went to the Sony booth and asked them about viewing distance for 4K TV. The rep at the booth said the ideal viewing distance is around 3 feet. I said:

"Nobody puts their TV that close to the couch. You'd have to put it on the coffee table."

He said "Some consumer education may be required."

I think HDR will be the killer app for 4K television. The greater spatial resolution is hard to notice, but the picture improvement with HDR is obvious from across the room. Everybody I know who's seen it has had the same reaction: "What is THAT? That's FANTASTIC. I want that RIGHT NOW." When you see it, you'll probably say the same. It gives you brighter brights, blacker blacks, and it improves the other depth cues in the picture so much it's almost 3D without 3D.
Sharp aquos Q+ series  
chillinman1183 : 6/20/2015 6:30 pm : link
I just purchased a 70 inch about 2 weeks ago. It has incredible picture quality,is 3D active,and the only tv that plays 4K content. You can get one now at bestbuy.com for under $1,700. I spent 1,797 from amazon with free shipping! It's the highest resolution HD TV on the market and is well worth the $$$ in my opinion. They also offer the Q+ series in 60 inch if the 70 is to big for your taste!!
love my  
liteamorn : 6/20/2015 6:49 pm : link
65" Samsung hu 8700 (did not like the Costco Samsung curve). A lot of the newer Netflix programming is in 4k, I have a kick ass internet (about 35 mbps over wifi) so it looks pretty damned good.
81 Dane ...  
FragileFox2 : 6/21/2015 2:07 am : link
Couldn't agree more ...

3D Movies ... meh

4K Movies ... meh

HDR Movies ... Unbelievable. I've seen the TVs, and a movie theater in that format. Best looking images I've seen in years.

HDR is definitely the way to go. I'm dying to see a whole movie like that. Crazy good looking stuff.
cable is dead  
giantfan2000 : 6/21/2015 1:16 pm : link
it is inevitable in the next few years digital cable is going to move from QAM to IPTV

in addition new IPTV services are coming on line in the next year
Apple TV being the biggest

in other words all the channels you get from cable are going to go via the internet
this is how they are going to move to 4k

so a 4k tv is going to be more and more useful in the coming years

that said . .bought a Samsung 4k this year and love it
and of course it is 1k cheaper than it was 3 months ago

Samsung UN55JS8500 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD 3D Smart LED TV - ( New Window )
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