"Here are three trades that might make sense for both teams:
1. Sixers send three 2016 first-round picks (Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat and Oklahoma City Thunder) to Knicks for No. 4 overall.
For the Knicks, this deal knocks them out of the first-round this year, but it does set the up to be major players next year. The Knicks, like the Sixers do now, would own potentially as many as four first-round picks in the 2016 NBA Draft, and would also have a ton of cap space to spend on free agents. Not getting a player this year would sting, but in the long run, this deal would set the Knicks up to re-build quickly.
2. Knicks send Jose Calderon (3 years, $7 million per) and No. 4 overall to Sixers for Henry Sims (1 year, $900,000), and two future-first round draft picks
If the Knicks want to spend big on free agents this year, getting bad money off the books is key. Signing Calderon has proven to be a mistake, and his contract is the worst on the Knicks payroll (unless you want to count Carmelo Anthony's deal). The Sixers would essentially be buying the pick, as well as giving up two future assets.
3. Knicks send Andre Bargnani (1 year, $11 million) and No. 4 overall to Sixers for Henry Sims (1 year, $900,000) and two future first-round picks
This deal is similar to the previous one, only it opens up more cap space this year for the Knicks. There are a number of marque free agents expected to be available, including Cleveland Cavalier forward Kevin Love. The Knicks would free up $11 million in cap space and collect two future first-round picks. The Sixers would get to pick at No. 3 and No. 4, and would likely buyout Bargnani."
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"The one way to not screw it up is just to take the next best player," the executive said. "But you start moving back, trying to gain a pick, you don't have control. … Don't get cute. At end of the day, eventually there'll be a gap between certain players. Wouldn't you rather control that rather than letting who everybody else takes dictate it for you?"
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Knicks President Phil Jackson recently scouted Porzingis in Las Vegas, and has said all along his priority is a defensive-oriented big man. Short of landing Towns or Okafor, Porzingis might best fit that bill, although Jackson and the Knicks risk being ripped by fans for another potential Frederic Weis disaster.
“I don’t like being labeled soft,” Porzingis told Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. “I’m very hungry. I love the game. I’ve got to prove to coaches and GMs that I’m not soft just because I’m from Europe. They need to see that I’m not just some skinny white guy, that I’m going to be there fighting. They’ll need to see that I’m a worker who’s going to play hard, and play tough.”
Magic. Knicks president Phil Jackson could trade down to select one of two Kentucky big men, Trey Lyles or Willie Cauley-Stein.
Of course, the Knicks’ interest in Porzingis could be sincere. They were impressed by his workout in Las Vegas two weeks ago and wanted another look at him on Monday.
Jackson has said in recent days that the Knicks need a big man. The 19-year-old Porzingis has played professionally in Spain. On ESPN’s Mike&Mike radio show, Jackson said the Knicks were “covered” at lead guard and small forward. That would suggest that Jackson may be less inclined to select Duke’s Justise Winslow, who will be available at No. 4.
On the 3 #1s trade, that isnt remotely enough value. Heat and OKC should be playoff teams, and the Lakers will be much improved -- they're either adding Randle and Russell/Okafor or Boogie. I'd think about it if they added Saric.
Because there is a big difference between top 3-4 picks and the 8-10 range where we got guys like Frye and Sweets.
In any event, we're somewhat in the mess we're in because of all the unprotected #1s we've traded. When we finally get a pick where we could take someone with a little star power, we're going to trade it for a dime and a couple of nickles? Take Mudiay or Zinga and call it a day. Someone who could make a fucking allstar game one day.
The Weis comparisons are just lazy. NBA teams' scouting efforts overseas are way, way better than they were 15 years ago, and the level of play overseas is also drastically higher. Most of the teams that are considering Porzingis have seen plenty of him.
And as players, they're not even close to the same. If we're going to pick Euro comparisons, Porzingis profiles as much closer to, say, a really tall Kirilenko, and even that is not an ideal comparison. He's a unique player.
Jerian Grant. PG out of Notre Dane is a real sleeper and could be best PG in draft
Couldn't agree more Jon
Gallinari was gonna be Frederic Weis.
Jerian Grant. PG out of Notre Dane is a real sleeper and could be best PG in draft
Please God no. The Knicks need a core piece to build around. Their top priority should be to ensure that the piece they get in this draft is the best player they can possibly get.
The only way I'm OK with the Knicks trading down is if they're on the clock and they know for a fact (or as close to a fact as they can get) that the best available player on their draft board will still be there a few picks later. If the Knicks know they can trade down, get an asset, and pick the same player they would pick at #4, then that's a no-brainer - they're essentially getting an extra asset for free. Otherwise? Nail this pick and go from there.
Gallinari was gonna be Frederic Weis.
And Sam Dekker has to be Kyle Singler, Gordon Hayward, or Mike Dunleavy. Can't forget the white American player to white American player comparisons
No one the Knicks draft is going to be someone to build the franchise around. But they should be a core component for years going forward..
I have no issue with anyone they pick within the consensus top six in all honesty..
Count me in on WCS too if we want to trade down a few.
he is. Most of the people on this thread know more than this lousy writer, whoever he is. That's just embarrassing.
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This kid is not Frédéric Weis.
The Weis comparisons are just lazy. NBA teams' scouting efforts overseas are way, way better than they were 15 years ago, and the level of play overseas is also drastically higher. Most of the teams that are considering Porzingis have seen plenty of him.
And as players, they're not even close to the same. If we're going to pick Euro comparisons, Porzingis profiles as much closer to, say, a really tall Kirilenko, and even that is not an ideal comparison. He's a unique player.
Their NCAA scouting should be better too, but Anthony Bennett was still drafted #1 overall...
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If the Knicks got Willue Cauley Stein by swapping picks and either getting a Vet who can help or an extra draft pick
Jerian Grant. PG out of Notre Dane is a real sleeper and could be best PG in draft
Please God no. The Knicks need a core piece to build around. Their top priority should be to ensure that the piece they get in this draft is the best player they can possibly get.
The only way I'm OK with the Knicks trading down is if they're on the clock and they know for a fact (or as close to a fact as they can get) that the best available player on their draft board will still be there a few picks later. If the Knicks know they can trade down, get an asset, and pick the same player they would pick at #4, then that's a no-brainer - they're essentially getting an extra asset for free. Otherwise? Nail this pick and go from there.
+1
They nailed the Wiggins pick!
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They got the pick right, what GM Lebron did with Wiggins afterwards is another story.
Secondly the person who said Jackson's comments about have a lead guard and sf means their drafting Winslow is really not paying attention...
Mudiay or Russell would not play the "lead guard" position in this offense, they would play the 2 guard, the penetrator and creator...
Calderon and Gallo would play the other guard which is the shooter, like Kerr or Paxson was next to Jordan...
No chance WCS is there at #13.
Calderon next to an athletic 2 that can create and get into the lane is a lot better than a calderon that has to run the offense and create for others...
He played well when he played next to Ellis because Ellis had the ball in his hands and Calderon became a spot up shooter, which he is good at..
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that nets the Knicks Bledsoe and WCS, while dumping #4, THJR, and Calderon.
No chance WCS is there at #13.
Hence the "3 team trade". Knicks get #8-10 pick and Bledsoe. Suns get #4. 3rd team gets #13 + THJR
Mudiay
Hence the "3 team trade". Knicks get #8-10 pick and Bledsoe. Suns get #4. 3rd team gets #13 + THJR
At that point it would be too complicated to occur. Theres no scenario anything like that happens.