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Deej : 6/26/2015 6:50 pm
Draft starts tonight, eh. Only 8 more drafts until the Rangers have a #1 pick!
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The Brooklynders suck  
Torrag : 6/26/2015 11:10 pm : link
and so does Fish.
Good night for the Devs  
Stu11 : 6/26/2015 11:13 pm : link
like the Zacha pick and Palmieri pick up. That trade basically becomes Jagr for Palmieri. He should be a top 6 fwd for us.
RE: Good to have some of the fire back on these threads  
arcarsenal : 6/26/2015 11:13 pm : link
In comment 12345681 bigbluehoya said:
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But what I really can't wait for are some posts about how the isles are building something special! And the players know it! And they want to be here! And the balance of power in NY hockey has shifted!


Don't worry, we're only about 3 1/2 months away from the annual 12th Man proclamation about the changing of the guard that will be wrong for like the 10th year in a row.
RE: RE: Good to have some of the fire back on these threads  
Deej : 6/26/2015 11:18 pm : link
In comment 12345686 arcarsenal said:
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Don't worry, we're only about 3 1/2 months away from the annual 12th Man proclamation about the changing of the guard that will be wrong for like the 10th year in a row.


I think they should upgrade. Thinking a press conference where Rex Ryan and Prokhorov declare that the Islanders own NY.
RE: Good night for the Devs  
Dunedin81 : 6/26/2015 11:19 pm : link
In comment 12345685 Stu11 said:
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like the Zacha pick and Palmieri pick up. That trade basically becomes Jagr for Palmieri. He should be a top 6 fwd for us.


Sadly top 6 forward is not a particularly high burden with us. But I like the Palmieri pick-up. Presumably Zacha stays in juniors this year unless he absolutely blows them away in camp.
RE: RE: RE: Good to have some of the fire back on these threads  
arcarsenal : 6/26/2015 11:23 pm : link
In comment 12345687 Deej said:
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In comment 12345686 arcarsenal said:


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Don't worry, we're only about 3 1/2 months away from the annual 12th Man proclamation about the changing of the guard that will be wrong for like the 10th year in a row.



I think they should upgrade. Thinking a press conference where Rex Ryan and Prokhorov declare that the Islanders own NY.


Well, they are coming to Brooklyn after all. Perhaps a billboard is in order?
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pganut : 6/26/2015 11:34 pm : link
In comment 12345686 arcarsenal said:

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Well, they are coming to Brooklyn after all. Perhaps a billboard is in order?
Only if they allow the players on that billboard to go all steampunk. I hear the hipsters go for that big time.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Good to have some of the fire back on these threads  
arcarsenal : 6/26/2015 11:48 pm : link
In comment 12345701 pganut said:
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In comment 12345686 arcarsenal said:



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Well, they are coming to Brooklyn after all. Perhaps a billboard is in order?

Only if they allow the players on that billboard to go all steampunk. I hear the hipsters go for that big time.


LOL.. I still don't know what the hell "steampunk" even is. Probably better off.
RE: Sather  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/27/2015 12:36 am : link
In comment 12345515 PaulN said:
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Fucks the pooch again! LOL! Have fun boys, I am through.

Oh, if only that were true.
RE: Fucking  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/27/2015 12:40 am : link
In comment 12345649 Fish said:
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Love you cocksuckers stroking each other all week long over Talbot, glass and any other shit you could muster up. And nothing goes your way and total silence.

Do you even contribute on, you know, GIANTS threads? I didn't really understand the whole "suck it, Fish" sentiment before, but I do now. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm sure whatever issues have led to a personality that would prefer to taunt than contribute could not have been good. It's ok Fish. Things get better. Not for the Islanders, per se, but otherwise, yes.
Initial reactions  
slackerracker : 6/27/2015 12:58 am : link
Boston f'ed up big time, 3 straight picks and no Barzal or Connor? Jesus, it's a pretty big consensus among most hardcore hockey fans that boston lost this draft big time, despite the 3 straight picks in the mid 1st.

Isles - Jesus great day 1 of the draft, I can't think of any possibility of how they did any wrong.

Devils - Zacha is a great pick, his first year stats in the CHL isnt' great but he was injured/suspended a couple times, as well as going to the WJC. Kid has size, speed and a great shot and while next year he won't be in NJ(passed maybe the first 5-9 games) kid should be a gamer, is also super happy to be drafted by the Devils. In an AWWW momenet kid has a picture of him and elias with the stanley cup from 03 and he wants elias to sign it now.

Hurricanes - Lucked out with Hanifin dropping to #5, kid is going to be amazing, a do it all at a high level defenseman.

Overall have to say Buffalo and Isles are the winners of day 1. The overhaul by Buffalo is great, Eichel, ROR and Lehner that might be one quick turnaround. Isles getting Barzal that late is a solid pickup, kid is small but he's a Gomez type playmaker with slightly better scoring touch when he focuses less on making his teammates better. The first round has a chance to compete with '03 for a tremendous first round (granted it'll be hard as hell to compete with the skill that came out of that draft)
RE: RE: Good to have some of the fire back on these threads  
The 12th Man : 6/27/2015 2:17 am : link
In comment 12345686 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12345681 bigbluehoya said:


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But what I really can't wait for are some posts about how the isles are building something special! And the players know it! And they want to be here! And the balance of power in NY hockey has shifted!



Don't worry, we're only about 3 1/2 months away from the annual 12th Man proclamation about the changing of the guard that will be wrong for like the 10th year in a row.


You know last I checked Arc 0 for your last two at the cup. I have big shoulders, I admitted when I was wrong but you know what the Islanders have won the same amount of cups as the Rangers in the last 20 years. I still believe hockey in the tri state is going to be very enjoyable the next 5 yrs. hopefully there will be a few Islander Ranger playoff series during that time. I will look forward to watching BBI implode when it happens.

Oh and just when you think about going into next year all I will say is TANNER GLASS!!!! Looking forward to next year.
Trades already happening this morning  
pganut : 6/27/2015 9:06 am : link
VAN trades Eddie Lack to CAR for a 2015 3rd and 2016 7th round pick. CAR expected to trade Khudobin somewhere today.
GD  
Fish : 6/27/2015 9:25 am : link
I actually bring nothing to hockey threads but grit.
And have had many Giants discussions over our Giants. But don't you worry about our hockey wars here. We have it under control. Thanks.
I guess you have to be on the Giants game thread  
Dave M : 6/27/2015 9:47 am : link
To be a true bbi'er.

After the worst off season a GM could have(until Boston this year) Snow has followed it up with two great drafts and I'm excited to see what he's do next. I think the whole Talbot for a 1st was wishful thinking but a 2nd or a player(jumbo Joe) would be a great haul for a backup goalie. If that's what Eddie Lack returned you'd think Talbot would get more of a return. It's so rare to see the Devils pick this high and considering they only had 1 RW signed the Palmieri trade makes sense.

Some people have such thin skin. This is hockey.
I am at work  
Jay on the Island : 6/27/2015 10:26 am : link
I just saw that the Devils traded the 36th pick to Ottawa. Can someone tell me what they got in return.
#42 and either a 4th this year or 3rd next, I think.  
yatqb : 6/27/2015 10:32 am : link
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RE: #42 and either a 4th this year or 3rd next, I think.  
Jay on the Island : 6/27/2015 10:33 am : link
In comment 12345838 yatqb said:
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Thanks yat solid return for the Devils for moving down 6 spots.
Niemi to Dallas.. one more off the list of potential Talbot suitors.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:33 am : link
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Speculation is a NYR - ANA trade here  
pganut : 6/27/2015 10:37 am : link
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Edmonton is involved too. It looks like a 3 team deal.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:39 am : link
I think Talbot is going to EDM but our piece(s) are going to come from the Ducks
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arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:39 am : link
New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers 10s11 seconds ago
OFFICIAL: #NYR have acquired the 41st pick and Etem from ANA for the rights to Hagelin, 59th pick and the 179th pick. NYR on the clock
Sry to see him go  
Giants2012 : 6/27/2015 10:40 am : link
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Think more is coming.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:42 am : link
Still have a feeling Talbot is going to EDM somehow
Recapping recent moves this AM  
pganut : 6/27/2015 10:47 am : link
NYR trades Carl Hagelin and 59th and 179th picks to ANA for Emerson Etem and 41st pick. Then NYR take Ryan Gropp with 41st pick.

SJ sends Niemi to DAL for pick 193. Since Niemi is a UFA, no guarantee he signs there although DAL is reportedly already working on a contract.

Khudobin from CAR to ANA for D Wisniewski. ANA unloads salary. Interesting to see what happens with Andersen and Gibson.
NYR - EDM trade coming  
pganut : 6/27/2015 10:48 am : link
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Yep.. sounds like the Talbot part is about to go down.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:49 am : link
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Disappointed in this trade, and the moves we made that put us  
yatqb : 6/27/2015 10:49 am : link
in cap hell so that we had to trade a good kid like Hags.
Talbot to Oilers  
RodneyHamp : 6/27/2015 10:52 am : link
Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 48s48 seconds ago

Rangers send Cam Talbot and pick 209 to Edmonton for 57, 79 and 184
So much for that speculation  
Jay on the Island : 6/27/2015 10:53 am : link
that the Rangers had an offer of a #1 for Talbot.
Rangers did a terrible job today.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/27/2015 10:53 am : link
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What happened to  
Default : 6/27/2015 10:55 am : link
a first or two seconds?
Very disappointing.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:55 am : link
Especially if Jimmy Hayes was on the table at some point.
That's what happens when you get greedy  
figgy2989 : 6/27/2015 10:56 am : link
And hold out for the best deal...

Should have taken the 2 2nds...hindsight is a bitch.
RE: Rangers did a terrible job today.  
pganut : 6/27/2015 10:59 am : link
In comment 12345875 BrettNYG10 said:
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Brett, your GM had your hands tied with the moves he's made in the recent past. At least he's provided the ability to get some potential talent back into your depleted pipeline. Doesn't help in the win-now category - the horses you have better produce - but it helps given what Slats had mortgaged in chasing the shiny.
Take Kylington pls  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 10:59 am : link
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Moar traid  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 11:02 am : link
New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers 38s39 seconds ago
OFFICIAL: #NYR have acquired the 62nd and 113th picks from Washington in exchange for the 57th pick
Looks like trying to re-stock the pipe was the main priority here.  
arcarsenal : 6/27/2015 11:02 am : link
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BrettNYG10 : 6/27/2015 11:02 am : link
I thought they could have gotten more for Hagelin or signed him to a shorter term deal and dumped him next off-season. He has a lot of value. Maybe Etem is better than I'm giving credit for, though.
Greenway  
pganut : 6/27/2015 11:06 am : link
Jeez, he's a moose. If he learns how to skate...LW, already 6'5", 222 and not done yet. Either gonna be a Jessiman or a Byfuglien+. Time will tell.
I agree this was a bad weekend for the Rangers  
Torrag : 6/27/2015 11:06 am : link
Didn't maximize either Hags or Talbot's value in these deals.

The team is worse today than it was Thursday.
Actually, I'm probably just overrating Hags.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/27/2015 11:07 am : link
I think Snow has done a great job the past year, OTOH.
RE: Actually, I'm probably just overrating Hags.  
Jay on the Island : 6/27/2015 11:10 am : link
In comment 12345898 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think Snow has done a great job the past year, OTOH.

Yeah it is pretty amazing to see Snow's turnaround. Not long ago he was considered a joke now he has had a great year and has added some good talent to an already talented team.
The funny thing re: Snow is  
pganut : 6/27/2015 11:21 am : link
He was a mediocre NHL goalie with no pedigree of success as a player, and also being part of the NYI organization that was shaky at best in the initial Wang years, so it was easy to ridicule him.

Contrast that with golden boy Stevie Y who brought championship and leadership qualities as a player to the TB front office, whose competency as a GM wasn't scrutinized, yet inherited a roster already stocked with Stamkos and Hedman, Snow has not only done well in that comparison, but overall in general.

You know I'm biased, but I agree with you that Snow has done a good job...not just drafting, but making trades as well.
I think Snow was absolutely brutal his first few years.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/27/2015 11:24 am : link
But Leddy, Boychuk, etc. were all good moves. And even though I don't follow prospects closely, the risk/reward with Ho-Sang last year was the type of move I like a lot.

I think Yzerman has done really well in Tampa (MSL trade, Stralman signing), but I think you're right. Snow did a lot more to improve his team last year than Yzerman did, imo,
Garth Snow has done a good job the last couple seasons  
Torrag : 6/27/2015 11:29 am : link
Of course prior to that he sucked the sweat off a donkey's balls. Kinda like Fish does.
on an all day  
pjcas18 : 6/27/2015 11:36 am : link
fishing trip since Friday 4am, just got back and get caught up.

WTF were the Bruins doing?

I get the Lucic trade, he's just not a first line player. And his toughness value is just not enough to outweigh the lack of skill.

but Hamilton, was a budding superstar. Great two-way defenseman with sneaky offensive ability. Not going to be surprised to see him win a Norris trophy in the next few years.

And Sweeney can simply blame it on the "mess" Chiarelli left but I'm glad they did this and I don't think it had to happen this way.

Totally agreed, pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/27/2015 11:39 am : link
They kept McQuaid at $2.75 but wouldn't give $5.5 to Hamilton? I felt like it could've worked.

And apparently Rask was on the table at some point.
Yeah the Hamilton trade  
Jay on the Island : 6/27/2015 11:41 am : link
was a real strange move. Trading Rask now might be wise as they have a very talented goalie Subban in the minors who could he their franchise goaltender.
Very recently it looked like the Bruins would compete for years  
Torrag : 6/27/2015 11:46 am : link
That's over. The window slammed shut. Chara is breaking down. The Hamilton trade was an abortion. They should just burn it down now and start over.
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