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Headhunter : 6/28/2015 12:20 pm
Day I've been waiting for a couple of years. Good luck Steve, may your run be long and successful
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Wow  
Rflairr : 6/28/2015 5:24 pm : link
that curve to Votto was nasty
RE: RE: if the Mets don't get some hitting during this amazing  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 5:24 pm : link
In comment 12346906 Rflairr said:
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era of pitching for them I'm going to lose it. Just assemble an average lineup and this team will be very good for years.



Problem is. To get some real hitting, they'll likely have to give up some of that good pitching


Or spend money/take on a risky contract or 2.
I am  
Headhunter : 6/28/2015 5:26 pm : link
giddy
moves that ball all over the plate  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 5:26 pm : link
with movement.

Sick stuff
This isn't  
Headhunter : 6/28/2015 5:27 pm : link
the Phillies, or the Marlins
RE: RE: if the Mets don't get some hitting during this amazing  
chris r : 6/28/2015 5:29 pm : link
In comment 12346906 Rflairr said:
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In comment 12346904 chris r said:


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era of pitching for them I'm going to lose it. Just assemble an average lineup and this team will be very good for years.



Problem is. To get some real hitting, they'll likely have to give up some of that good pitching


I'd like to think they could spend a little money to ensure that the best young pitching they've had maybe ever isn't wasted.
Next offseason there are actually a bunch of names that could help  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 5:32 pm : link
Cespedes, Alex Gordon, Upton, Heyward, Fowler, Spann, Desmond.

Upton will break the bank, but I don't know that any of the other guys will.
RE: Next offseason there are actually a bunch of names that could help  
Shecky : 6/28/2015 5:38 pm : link
In comment 12346916 Eric on Li said:
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Cespedes, Alex Gordon, Upton, Heyward, Fowler, Spann, Desmond.

Upton will break the bank, but I don't know that any of the other guys will.


Depends on the years and numbers. All good players that could help. But a couple of those guys will be MASSIVELY overpaid. Hopefully the quantity available will help out the trade market though.
Pitching  
stretch234 : 6/28/2015 5:40 pm : link
Give up none of the pitching

Open the wallet and buy the hitting. People are going to come see these guys pitch. Attendance will improve and can not be used as any excuse.

The opportunity is there to capitalize on this pitching and still keep it all
Definitely - they may need to gamble with a slight overpay though  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 5:40 pm : link
We all though Peralta got overpaid a couple years ago when he got more than 3/36. Turns out that would have been highway robbery in hindsight and he probably got severely underpaid with 4/56.
I blame the catcher  
Rflairr : 6/28/2015 5:41 pm : link
for that. 0-2. No reason to throw anything close to a strike to a hitter like Frazier
It's all part of it  
Headhunter : 6/28/2015 5:46 pm : link
these guys are too good. You make a mistake and you are going to pay for it more often than not. It's ok, the only 2 hard hit balls were mistakes.
ugh how long does Mayberry get to hit?  
chris r : 6/28/2015 5:50 pm : link
not only are our starters bad, our bench is horrid.
21 up 21 down  
Headhunter : 6/28/2015 5:51 pm : link
for Harol Gonzalez and 9k's and is untouchable for Kingsport
The system continues to do a great job replenishing itself  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 5:55 pm : link
Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Rosario, Smith, Beccerra, Morris, Meisner, Fulmer, Molina (even if he's hurt he's still a few years away). Hopefully a few guys from this past draft (and last year's) continue the trend.
RE: 21 up 21 down  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:00 pm : link
In comment 12346936 Headhunter said:
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for Harol Gonzalez and 9k's and is untouchable for Kingsport


Brender just tweeted he's through 8 with the PG still in tact. Anyone have a report on him? First i've heard his name.
Never heard of him  
Headhunter : 6/28/2015 6:02 pm : link
but one of the writers at the game says The Jays are not close to touching him, flat out dominating
RE: The system continues to do a great job replenishing itself  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:04 pm : link
In comment 12346937 Eric on Li said:
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Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Rosario, Smith, Beccerra, Morris, Meisner, Fulmer, Molina (even if he's hurt he's still a few years away). Hopefully a few guys from this past draft (and last year's) continue the trend.


Respectfully, they're supposed to do this. Meanwhile, none of those bats are close and the Mets need them now. Maybe Conforto is closer yet we're looking 2017/18 if this hierarchy waits.
this FO definitely knows what they're doing in the minors  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:05 pm : link
that much is obvious. Hopefully the coupons let Sandy use his "1 bullet".
Most of the league should watch this  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:05 pm : link
BEND, Square and bunt.

Text Book
RE: RE: The system continues to do a great job replenishing itself  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:08 pm : link
In comment 12346946 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12346937 Eric on Li said:


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Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Rosario, Smith, Beccerra, Morris, Meisner, Fulmer, Molina (even if he's hurt he's still a few years away). Hopefully a few guys from this past draft (and last year's) continue the trend.



Respectfully, they're supposed to do this. Meanwhile, none of those bats are close and the Mets need them now. Maybe Conforto is closer yet we're looking 2017/18 if this hierarchy waits.


Respectfully, 29 other teams are supposed to do it also and they aren't. And for 20+ years this team didn't do it as well as they are apparently doing it now.

I completely agree that none of these guys will make an impact at the MLB level any time soon (maybe Conforto). That's a totally separate discussion though.
Nice to see Granderson come through with guys on base  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:10 pm : link
hasn't gotten many opportunities to do so during this hot streak. Would be nice to blow this one open here to really take some good mojo in the Cubs series.
come on Ruben  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:11 pm : link
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So the Mets are the only team with propects now?  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:11 pm : link
Take a closer look. I know we're feeling good today but let's think the Mets have a laundry list of prospects while other have a bare system. There are a lot of young kids in systems out there. Other teams ARE doing this.
Flores has got  
Rflairr : 6/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
to at least get a sac fly here
This kid is shot  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
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RE: I'm excited to see Matz pitch  
schabadoo : 6/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12346686 PhiPsi125 said:
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But I'd be more excited if there wasn't a 95% chance he loses the game even if he pitches a gem.


With the injuries and the bad hitting and the bad defense they're still above .500 and hopefully getting Murphy back.
fucking mets can't get a runner  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:15 pm : link
in from third with no outs.
that was ball 3 to Darrell  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:16 pm : link
.
booooo  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:17 pm : link
this team...
RE: So the Mets are the only team with propects now?  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:17 pm : link
In comment 12346955 Giants2012 said:
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Take a closer look. I know we're feeling good today but let's think the Mets have a laundry list of prospects while other have a bare system. There are a lot of young kids in systems out there. Other teams ARE doing this.


They've been among the top 5 systems in baseball going on 3 years in a row, so they are doing it better than most. That's with graduating heralded prospects like Harvey, Wheeler, TdA and unheralded guys like JdG, Familia, Lagares, Mejia. Hard to find any metric of any org getting more out of their farm system right now. Entire team is homegrown. The external moves are the issue.
Another gem AB  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:17 pm : link
unreal
Just a horrible  
Rflairr : 6/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
Offensive team. Can't believe they couldn't that runner in from third. Same shit every game
Where Sandy should be able to add to this team regardless of $  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2015 6:20 pm : link
is by adding a veteran 4th OFer and an IFer who give them more professional AB's than the Campbell/Mayberry/Ceccilliani/Kirk and even Tejada. That's not a high bar to clear and they are going to save about $5M on Wright's contract they weren't expecting to.
RE: RE: So the Mets are the only team with propects now?  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:27 pm : link
In comment 12346969 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12346955 Giants2012 said:


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Take a closer look. I know we're feeling good today but let's think the Mets have a laundry list of prospects while other have a bare system. There are a lot of young kids in systems out there. Other teams ARE doing this.



They've been among the top 5 systems in baseball going on 3 years in a row, so they are doing it better than most. That's with graduating heralded prospects like Harvey, Wheeler, TdA and unheralded guys like JdG, Familia, Lagares, Mejia. Hard to find any metric of any org getting more out of their farm system right now. Entire team is homegrown. The external moves are the issue.


The team can't hit, play sound defense, demonstrate any speed, etc. They can pitch and perhaps have graduated more pitchers than anybody else yet they're flirting with dead last as far as position players with nothing on deck.
would you bring in DeGrom  
CMicks3110 : 6/28/2015 6:28 pm : link
to finish this game? It seems this would be his bullpen day since he last pitched thursday and we have an off day tomorrow +6 man rotation
Mets prospect  
Tanker20 : 6/28/2015 6:28 pm : link
Harol Gonzalez is three outs from a perfect game.

Never heard of him before. He's on Kingsport.
whoops saw you guys are talking about him  
Tanker20 : 6/28/2015 6:29 pm : link
He looks like hes 60 lbs
Are you kidding me.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2015 6:36 pm : link
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Matz says f you hitters  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:36 pm : link
I'll do it myself.
My gosh  
Giants2012 : 6/28/2015 6:36 pm : link
he's the best hitter
The Reds are a sloppy team  
Ira : 6/28/2015 6:40 pm : link
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And he just CREATED another run  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2015 6:40 pm : link
By taking out the 2nd baseman. Wow.
Cohen just compared Flores to Jeff Kent.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/28/2015 6:47 pm : link
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96 MPH  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:48 pm : link
on his 98th pitch.
On days like this,  
Ira : 6/28/2015 6:50 pm : link
I feel proud to be a Mets fan.
Love the Harvey  
Canton : 6/28/2015 6:53 pm : link
but I want this kid to be the face of the franchise for the next 10 years.
Harvey, DeGrom, Noah, Matz, Wheeler  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:56 pm : link
its just absurd the talent in that rotation.
Harvey, deGrom and Matz -  
Ira : 6/28/2015 6:56 pm : link
three aces.
what is Collins doing  
chris r : 6/28/2015 6:57 pm : link
?
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