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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:01 am
Pistons free agent center Greg Monroe said Sunday he will meet with five teams this week, including the Knicks, and said he wants to play for a club “ready to win.’’ He also seemed to be campaigning to stay in his hometown.
Monroe, who is from Louisiana, said at his basketball clinic in New Orleans he’s looking for a two-year deal with an opt-out after one season to take advantage of the coming rise of the salary cap.
According to the Baton Rouge (La.) Advocate, Monroe will speak with the Knicks, Celtics, Bucks, and Blazers with the Pistons out of the picture. Free agency begins Wednesday.
“I’m looking to be with a team that’s ready to win,” Monroe told the newspaper. “Hopefully it will be a team where I’m the missing piece.”-NYPOST


Meanwhile, USA Today reports that the Mavericks, Lakers, and Knicks will join the Clippers in holding meetings with Jordan, while the Bucks unfortunately for the were unable to pique the big man's interest.

The 26-year-old free agent center who spent his first seven seasons with the Clippers is clearly giving serious thought to changing jerseys, as three people with knowledge of his situation said he is expected to meet with at least four teams — the Clippers, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks — in the first few days of free agency. The meetings are expected to take place in the Los Angeles office where Jordan's representatives, Dan Fegan and Happy Walters of Relativity Sports, are based. The people spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the process.

NJ.com

Jeremy Lin, who was the most celebrated athlete in New York in 2011 when he became a surprise starter with the Knicks and ignited "Linsanity," could be returning to New York during free agency.

The point guard, who, while playing for the Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers, hasn't achieved the success he had in New York, could be a Knicks target as they look for inexpensive, short-term players to form a bridge to the future during a total rebuilding of the organization.

When he returned to the Garden with the Lakers in April, Lin played 24 minutes and scored just four points in a 92-80 loss.

"Every time I come back, I always have great memories," Lin said then. "I remember those great times. I'm always thankful. Coming back to New York with these fans at the Garden, that was very special to me and I'll always cherish that."


Caron Butler

After his release from the Milwaukee Bucks before July 1, Caron Butler has emerged as a candidate for the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio Spurs, a league source told RealGM.

The Lakers and New York Knicks also expect to make an inquiry on Butler, a 13-year NBA veteran who has averaged 14.3 points and 5.1 rebounds for his career.


David Aldridge & #10004;@daldridgetnt
An under the radar free agent will be Dallas' Al-Faroqu Aminu. Sked to visit NYK, BOS, POR, TOR & NOP, w/Mavs still in mix.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:10 am : link
ESPN's Marc Stein reports that there is "a growing feeling around the league" that the Suns will explore trade options for Eric Bledsoe if they first re-sign Brandon Knight.
Bucks writer Gery Woelfel reported on Saturday that Knight "will sign a five-year, $70 million contract with the Suns." That would apparently leave Bledsoe as the odd-man out in the Suns' backcourt, but he should have plenty of trade value despite the four years and $57 million remaining on his contract.
Related: Brandon Knight
Jun 28 - 11:44 PM
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:11 am : link
Royce White will play for the Clippers during the Orlando Summer League.
A few other teams showed interest in White but he opted to play for L.A., whose executives have reportedly gained his trust in recent weeks. He hopes to earn a contract after Summer League but it's far from certain that the 24-year-old will be on an active NBA roster when the season starts.
Related: Clippers
Source: Ben Bolch on Twitter Jun 28 - 7:16 PM
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:12 am : link
The Spurs reportedly fear that they may not be able to retain Danny Green as an unrestricted free agent this offseason.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:15 am : link
According to ESPN's Marc Stein, David West will meet with Knicks when free agency begins.


The Rockets could have difficulties in trying to re-sign Josh Smith as an unrestricted free agent this offseason.


According to Sam Amico of Fox Sports, Kevin Love has told the Cavaliers that he plans on returning to Cleveland next season.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:16 am : link
According to Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News, Jimmy Butler is hoping for a one-year contract with the Lakers, though the Bulls are expected to match any offer he receives:

Lastly, Chicago forward Jimmy Butler hopes to take his talents elsewhere and take advantage of the new television deal after his career year coincided with Tom Thibodeau’s firing and Derrick Rose’s chemistry issues. Although Butler wants to sign a one-year deal with the Lakers, according to a league source familiar with his thinking, the Bulls are expected to match any offer for the restricted free agent.
Butler news is interesting  
giants#1 : 6/29/2015 8:21 am : link
Sounds like he's taking the Monroe approach and will only sign a 1 yr deal this year. Could be a nice option in 2016!

Zinger
Monroe
Melo
Butler
Grant
I wonder if that is because...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 8:31 am : link
SA wants aldridge or they think that Green is going to command more then they can afford. Id max out at bout 10 per for him. I said in the other thread i dont like this 2 year with an opt out after 1 for Monroe. Thats not a good thing at all for the Knicks.

So we know we are meeting with Monroe, West, Jordan, Aminu, and I guess aldridge? Is that it so far. FA does basically start tomorrow night.
I might be in the minority..  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 8:33 am : link
but i wouldnt hate a return by Lin. That said it only makes sense if they trade Calderon since you dont need Calderon, Grant, and Lin. I doubt he gets much more then the min and we know he has some ability. If they dump Calderon id be ok with Lin/Grant i guess (assuming Grant is as ready to go as we think he is).
I wish the bulls trade butler  
dep026 : 6/29/2015 8:35 am : link
Now. His value will never be higher. He and rose do not get along together. However the bulls just can't let him go for nothing. The bulls aren't competing against the cavs any time soon.... so I rather start building for their stony davis run.
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Deej : 6/29/2015 8:36 am : link
Monroe wants 1+1? Stupid for him and us. Stupid for him because he isn’t a guy that is so good that he’s going to cash in a lot more with the new cap. He’s not getting 22 million. He should take 4 with an opt out to put him back on the market in his late 20s. Dumb for us because it locks down salary for next year (if he under performs) without the long term upside.

Aminu is the type of UFA we should pursue. He has upside vis a vis expected salary (though I have no idea what that will be). Guy like Monroe and Danny Green will struggle to be worth more than their contract. Aminu is a very good rebounder and defender. Horrible from midrange. Has had 2 seasons at 35% from 3, and 3 seasons at <15%. Interestingly the 3 bad seasons were in NO where he took <50 per season, whereas the two good seasons he was at 143 and 124 3 attempts, respectively.

Green scares me. Very good in SAS, but how will he be outside of the best environment ever?
RE: I wish the bulls trade butler  
Deej : 6/29/2015 8:39 am : link
In comment 12347331 dep026 said:
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Now. His value will never be higher. He and rose do not get along together. However the bulls just can't let him go for nothing. The bulls aren't competing against the cavs any time soon.... so I rather start building for their stony davis run.


Butler's trade value is limited because he's probably going for a 1+1 wherever he ends up. He is a guy who would command a max deal under the new TV $$ cap.
Aminu  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:40 am : link
probably hurts the Greek kid's chances of making the Knicks. How many zero offense types are you going to carry? Neither of which are a rim protector
RE: RE: I wish the bulls trade butler  
dep026 : 6/29/2015 8:42 am : link
In comment 12347334 Deej said:
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In comment 12347331 dep026 said:


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Now. His value will never be higher. He and rose do not get along together. However the bulls just can't let him go for nothing. The bulls aren't competing against the cavs any time soon.... so I rather start building for their stony davis run.



Butler's trade value is limited because he's probably going for a 1+1 wherever he ends up. He is a guy who would command a max deal under the new TV $$ cap.


They should explore a sign and trade. Or something. Trade him to the Lakers now...haha
i would not use my cap space  
hitdog42 : 6/29/2015 8:44 am : link
on danny green.
The Lin stuff seems totally made up by writers.  
BeerFridge : 6/29/2015 8:52 am : link
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RE: The Lin stuff seems totally made up by writers.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 8:52 am : link
In comment 12347355 BeerFridge said:
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They're just looking at the crappy end of the free agent list and connecting the dots as stopgaps for the knicks.

Caron Butler? Really?
I'd  
Jon in NYC : 6/29/2015 8:57 am : link
take Aaron Afflalo for 8 over Danny Green for 10.
im ok with Aminu....  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 8:58 am : link
but im not really excited by him. He is an ok player who plays good D and can rebound. He doesnt really have any upside anymore so he is what he is. I doubt you are getting him super cheap though, id guess at least 3-4. Id rather see what the greek kid can do since he is going to be much cheaper.
i think afflalo...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:02 am : link
and Green get pretty similar deals. Im not sure which i prefer personally. They are pretty similar players.
if the knicks somehow sign a Jordan  
hitdog42 : 6/29/2015 9:06 am : link
then I would be fine with a green type or afflalo--- but if they are unable to get a piece like that... then they aren't competing for much and little reason to tie up 10 a year to a 3 and D guy that is inflated by being in San Antonio system.
Love Jordan  
Jon in NYC : 6/29/2015 9:08 am : link
for his youth and defensive abilities. But I seriously doubt his ability to man the post in the triangle.
i doublt it too  
hitdog42 : 6/29/2015 9:10 am : link
was mainly using him as an example as to what would warrant a 3 and D type at 9-10 a year... you want to be competing already to sign that accessory type.
hitdog..  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:11 am : link
I dont think they go out and sign an Afflalo or Green unless they were able to get a big like Monroe, jordon, etc.. At least i would hope they dont go out and sign like Green and West for 10 each and thats there big move. If they strike out on the Monroe, Jordan, Aldridge, etc.. front id look to make trades where we help out a team trying to save some money and get back assets to do it. Like take Splitter for nothing, or Gibson, or something like that. Or even overpay a couple guys but only on 1 year deals so that we can still be competitive next season.
You couldnt expect Jordan...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:13 am : link
to be the post big in the triangle. It would need to be the PF and Jordan would just kinda have to get out of the way. I know its not perfect for the triangle, but i think Phil/Fisher are willing to adjust their offense a bit for the right players. If they didnt think he would fit then why meet with him.
They did not run the Triangle thru Will Perdue, Luc Longley and  
BeerFridge : 6/29/2015 9:18 am : link
Bill Wennington.

RE: Butler news is interesting  
Earl the goat : 6/29/2015 9:24 am : link
In comment 12347320 giants#1 said:
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Sounds like he's taking the Monroe approach and will only sign a 1 yr deal this year. Could be a nice option in 2016!

Zinger
Monroe
Melo
Butler
Grant


Butler would be a great signing. Grant and Butler backcourt would be one of the best defensively.
If im the bulls i force...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:28 am : link
butler to sign the QO before i give him a one year deal. There is no reason for the Bulls to give him the 1+1 he wants and if any team signs him to an offer sheet they are wasting their time. Butler wants the best of both worlds, a bunch of money and an opt out after one year. Bulls will say sign a max deal for at least 3 years or take the QO. Or as Dep said they can look to s&T him which might not be the worst idea in the world.
if Rodman can be part of the triangle  
giants#1 : 6/29/2015 9:37 am : link
then you can accommodate just about any big.
Risky move  
kash94 : 6/29/2015 9:38 am : link
by Monroe if true. He had a great second half to the season last year and is still very young so perhaps he can further increase his value the next year or two to further increase his price tag. But as many mentioned, I don't think he's a 20 million per year guy. 15 million (which he'd get if he signs a max this year) a year yea but not that high.

I was thinking about this and I really think NO has a solid shot to sign him. Hometown team and he'd be a perfect compliment to Anthony Davis. Davis can guard PF's, block, and defend the PnR while Monroe can guard the centers. Offensively it works too. There was a SI article a few weeks ago that mentioned that NO may be one of the few teams where he works perfectly.

However, as of now they're slated to only have around 7-10 million in cap space which would not be enough to sign him outright unless he's willing to take a discount. They would have to sign and trade for him I believe which, as we saw with the Melo Bulls situation last year, could be an issue.

I think them and perhaps Boston could be threats. Wonder who the other teams are.
that seems insulting to rodman.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 9:39 am : link
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RE: If im the bulls i force...  
giants#1 : 6/29/2015 9:40 am : link
In comment 12347397 Italianju said:
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butler to sign the QO before i give him a one year deal. There is no reason for the Bulls to give him the 1+1 he wants and if any team signs him to an offer sheet they are wasting their time. Butler wants the best of both worlds, a bunch of money and an opt out after one year. Bulls will say sign a max deal for at least 3 years or take the QO. Or as Dep said they can look to s&T him which might not be the worst idea in the world.


If I'm the Knicks, I sign Butler to a 1+1 deal on Day 1 knowing Chicago will match. Force Chicago's hand and ensure Butler hits the market next season.
When the cap approaches 90M, Monroe might approach 20M  
BeerFridge : 6/29/2015 9:40 am : link
That's what makes this all very tricky. At least Melo will look way more affordable soon! :)
really getting fucking tired of the media  
SicilianGMEN : 6/29/2015 9:41 am : link
shitting on Carmelo all day everyday....today they are on full Melo blast....shit gets tiring
RE: that seems insulting to rodman.  
giants#1 : 6/29/2015 9:44 am : link
In comment 12347414 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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One of the greatest rebounders ever and great defensively, but he couldn't hit FTs, had 0 post game, and no outside shot. We're talking about a HOF player that only averaged double digit points once in his career. Considering he averaged almost 5 offensive rebounds/game, I'm going to assume most of his 7.3 pts/game came on put-backs (and he actually averaged 5.5 ORB/game and only 5.2 pts/game with CHI).
Aminu is an elite wing defender  
Deej : 6/29/2015 9:48 am : link
with an underappreciated 3 game (essentially, give him some volume and he'll hit 35%). I dont know why one wouldnt be excited about that.

It's interesting that he has more success guarding the 2 than the 4. But on a team that has Melo, two rookies, and god knows what else, a real stopper would be a major add.
Good  
Jon in NYC : 6/29/2015 9:48 am : link
points re: Rodman, Longley, etc.
Stop listening to ESPN  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2015 9:48 am : link
Mike Greenburg is a moron is living on SAS's word...

Carmelo Anthony said he is excited about Porzingis and is meeting with him today and plans to get a little workout in as well with him...
Link - ( New Window )
NO really has no shot..  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:51 am : link
without dumping at least Ryan Anderson which i guess is doable since he only has one year left at 8.5. Without moving him they would only be able to offer monroe like 7 mill.
in what world is Aminu...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 9:53 am : link
a 3point shooter. I know everyone wants wing defenders to be 3D guys, but Aminu is not. So the only reason he is a 28% career 3pt shooter is cause he doesnt get the volume? Aminu is shumpert with better D and worse O.
I would take Lin  
Audible : 6/29/2015 9:53 am : link
at the right price. It would have to be a "good backup PG" price rather than a starting PG price, and I'd want the Knicks to try and sign actual good starters before tying up any cap space with Lin, but Lin does make sense in the right role. And I think most of the NBA has come to the conclusion that Lin fits better as an offensively-minded backup PG who can keep a second unit afloat, not as a starter, so maybe he'll be priced accordingly.
Saw someone...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 10:02 am : link
ask if a deal between PHI and PHX could be worked out for Bledsoe. That would seem like a solid fit. Although it would improve the team now and Hinkie isnt really about that.
Actually really starting to think  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 10:04 am : link
that a Mornoe-Davis pairing is ideal.

They would have to move either Gordon, Anderson, or Evans to do it.

Can Cleveland still offer that Brendan Haywood expiring? Because I think Tyreke Evans is exactly the type of player they want coming off the bench to spell Kyrie.
RE: in what world is Aminu...  
Deej : 6/29/2015 10:04 am : link
In comment 12347437 Italianju said:
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a 3point shooter. I know everyone wants wing defenders to be 3D guys, but Aminu is not. So the only reason he is a 28% career 3pt shooter is cause he doesnt get the volume? Aminu is shumpert with better D and worse O.


Sorry, I was looking at the wrong stat (volume) and remembering when he was on my fantasy team and giving me 3s, ST, BL, and Reb. I was too optimistic about his 3s.

Still, lock down defender, very strong SF rebounder (career 8.6/36 mins), and not entirely useless offensively. A reasonable alternative at (guessing) 15/3 to paying Green or Matthews 50/4.
RE: in what world is Aminu...  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 10:05 am : link
In comment 12347437 Italianju said:
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a 3point shooter. I know everyone wants wing defenders to be 3D guys, but Aminu is not. So the only reason he is a 28% career 3pt shooter is cause he doesnt get the volume? Aminu is shumpert with better D and worse O.


Yeah, don't wanna touch Aminu with a 10 foot pole.
Seeing  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 10:06 am : link
Is believing in Matthews getting a deal like that coming off such a major injury
What  
Jon in NYC : 6/29/2015 10:06 am : link
does Lin bring that Grant doesn't?
even with it being an expiring...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 10:07 am : link
i see zero chance they can move gordon and not take back any money. I think a team would be stupid as hell to take the Evans contract, but a team stuck like CLE might be dumb enough to do it. Anderson seems the best case to be moved. He is a solid big who can stretch the floor. If NO was literally going to give him away then i think teams would take him. This would also make Asik available, i still think he would be a good fit for us,
RE: What  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 10:08 am : link
In comment 12347450 Jon in NYC said:
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does Lin bring that Grant doesn't?


Marketing ploys.
I get sick of the media thumping on Carmelo Anthony  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 10:09 am : link
but he's really got to get much better control of people who allegedly talk to the media in his name.
I have no issues with Aminu..  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 10:09 am : link
on a cheap deal. He has some value in this league, but as i said i wouldnt be really excited about it.

Lin only makes sense if you dump calderon. No need for Calderon, Grant, and Lin (and Galloway if you want to call him a PG).
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