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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 8:01 am
Pistons free agent center Greg Monroe said Sunday he will meet with five teams this week, including the Knicks, and said he wants to play for a club ready to win. He also seemed to be campaigning to stay in his hometown.
Monroe, who is from Louisiana, said at his basketball clinic in New Orleans hes looking for a two-year deal with an opt-out after one season to take advantage of the coming rise of the salary cap.
According to the Baton Rouge (La.) Advocate, Monroe will speak with the Knicks, Celtics, Bucks, and Blazers with the Pistons out of the picture. Free agency begins Wednesday.
Im looking to be with a team thats ready to win, Monroe told the newspaper. Hopefully it will be a team where Im the missing piece.-NYPOST


Meanwhile, USA Today reports that the Mavericks, Lakers, and Knicks will join the Clippers in holding meetings with Jordan, while the Bucks unfortunately for the were unable to pique the big man's interest.

The 26-year-old free agent center who spent his first seven seasons with the Clippers is clearly giving serious thought to changing jerseys, as three people with knowledge of his situation said he is expected to meet with at least four teams the Clippers, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks in the first few days of free agency. The meetings are expected to take place in the Los Angeles office where Jordan's representatives, Dan Fegan and Happy Walters of Relativity Sports, are based. The people spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the process.

NJ.com

Jeremy Lin, who was the most celebrated athlete in New York in 2011 when he became a surprise starter with the Knicks and ignited "Linsanity," could be returning to New York during free agency.

The point guard, who, while playing for the Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers, hasn't achieved the success he had in New York, could be a Knicks target as they look for inexpensive, short-term players to form a bridge to the future during a total rebuilding of the organization.

When he returned to the Garden with the Lakers in April, Lin played 24 minutes and scored just four points in a 92-80 loss.

"Every time I come back, I always have great memories," Lin said then. "I remember those great times. I'm always thankful. Coming back to New York with these fans at the Garden, that was very special to me and I'll always cherish that."


Caron Butler

After his release from the Milwaukee Bucks before July 1, Caron Butler has emerged as a candidate for the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio Spurs, a league source told RealGM.

The Lakers and New York Knicks also expect to make an inquiry on Butler, a 13-year NBA veteran who has averaged 14.3 points and 5.1 rebounds for his career.


David Aldridge & #10004;@daldridgetnt
An under the radar free agent will be Dallas' Al-Faroqu Aminu. Sked to visit NYK, BOS, POR, TOR & NOP, w/Mavs still in mix.
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RE: TTH  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 3:34 pm : link
In comment 12348084 Deej said:
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So is LeBron getting kickbacks? Maybe Im dense.


LeBron and Rich Paul were personal friends before they had a professional relationship. Lebron left CAA to make Rich Paul his agent.

LeBron hired Rich Paul to work for him as part of his management team, and it's because of LeBron that he actually became an agent after getting connected with and working under well-established agent Leon Rose. Now Paul has his own agency. His clients include Lebron, Norris Cole, Thompson, Eric Bledsoe, among others. They're business partners.

Lebron doesn't just want to be a basketball player. He wants to be a businessman and a power broker among athletes.
its just weird if the Knicks...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 3:34 pm : link
were willing to pay that much for a SG why go after Afflalo the hardest. One would think he is third on teams lists behind Green and Mathews. I feel like if you offer any of the 3 12 mill they will prolly take it.
i mean shit..  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 3:35 pm : link
id almost rather offer wade 3/38, lol.
RE: i mean shit..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 3:36 pm : link
In comment 12348100 Italianju said:
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id almost rather offer wade 3/38, lol.


Does he come with a free suit and folding chair for the 25 games he'll miss per year?
i was mostly joking but...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 3:38 pm : link
if i can get 60 games of wade vs 70 from Afflalo ill prolly take wade
So some of the Affalos and Matthews types are gonna get paid  
Deej : 6/29/2015 3:39 pm : link
10-13 million per. Knicks should just sit back. If we dont get anyone so be it, but better to wait for the bargains than overpay on day 1/8 of free agency
I would like to see Wade play on a bad team  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 3:41 pm : link
but part of me wouldn't, since people would finally get to see all the slouching on defense and complaining about the calls while the game is going on.

People would just blame that on being with the Knicks though.
RE: its just weird if the Knicks...  
kash94 : 6/29/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12348099 Italianju said:
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were willing to pay that much for a SG why go after Afflalo the hardest. One would think he is third on teams lists behind Green and Mathews. I feel like if you offer any of the 3 12 mill they will prolly take it.


Yea it would be weird but to be fair we have no idea how much Knicks or the rest of the NBA will offer right?

What would be an appropriate contract you think for him? 7-9 million a year?
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 3:44 pm : link
like Green is going to get a lot of money. What do people think of Joseph?
Love Cory Joseph!  
BeerFridge : 6/29/2015 3:46 pm : link
Would be a great addition. And SA might not be able to match a decent sized deal because they've already committed to Mills and Parker.
I'd take Afflalo  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 3:52 pm : link
at $8 mil tops.

Again, if we don't get a SG this year, there are many younger SGs coming available next year. The rim protectors next year? Ed Davis and Ian Mahinimi. No thank you.

And I keep forgetting about Kyle O'quinn. Solid defense and shooting range, has been even hitting a few 3s on occasion. I'd think somewhere in the 6-8 million range ought to do it. Perfect compliment to Monroe.

Monroe at $15 million, O'quinn at $6 million, that should allow about $6 million to spend on a stop gap SG. Maybe Gerald Green on a 1 year deal?

And if we are simply keeping Calderon because of shooting, do you think we could swap him for Kevin Martin? Just as bad on defense but can get high volume 3s in on 40% shooting. Solid spark off the bench.
I like Joseph  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 3:53 pm : link
try swapping Calderon for Kmart and sign Joseph?
Lineup of  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 3:57 pm : link
Joseph/Galloway
K-Mart/Grant/Ledo
Melo/Early
O'Quinn/KP
Monroe/Aldrich

I might be optimistic on that one, but hopefully can get us 35-40 wins, compete for an 8 seed, and next year we can splash on SGs and fill out the bench.
Joseph  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:06 pm : link
is only going to be 24 in August. Would love to add him and Biyombo with Monroe, KP, Galloway, suddenly some youth.
RE: Yes and no Enzo  
Enzo : 6/29/2015 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12348093 Deej said:
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The potential rewards for Jimmy Butler are obvious. If he starts a max deal next year it will probably be for 30% more money.

For others? Not so much. Lets take 6th man "X". Mr. X is going to get paid 28/4 this year in part on the knowledge that the cap is going up next year. If there wasnt massive cap inflation, he might get only 15/3 or 20/4. But it's not like if he could opt out that next year there would by 40/4 available for him -- the 28/4 is already pricing the cap rise in -- except for max contract players.

This is the problem with Monroe. He's a max guy because of the cap rise. He shouldnt expect materially more than 15 million per if he opts out next year -- maybe he gets more, but on a 2 year deal he risks more than 50% of the 60 million should he suck/get hurt.

true, but we're looking at an unprecedented situation where just about EVERY team is going to have max cap room. Role players and such get overpaid when there's 2-3 teams bidding. What happens when there's say 10-20 teams in the mix for a guy?
RE: I'd take Afflalo  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/29/2015 4:12 pm : link
In comment 12348127 giantsfan44ab said:
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at $8 mil tops.



I know it was a few years ago, but JR Smith got 7 mil in a packed SG market coming off a 6th man of the year award. I don't care if the cap is going up... Afflalo can't get 8 mil coming off a bad season.
I know FA starts on July 1st  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 4:12 pm : link
but if I remember correctly, players "agree" to deals the deals the day before right? Because I remember a few players were announced as verbal commits to certain teams before it started right?
Oops...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/29/2015 4:12 pm : link
I meant Afflalo can't get MORE than 8 mil a year.
Yeah that makes sense  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 4:14 pm : link
I guess but Afflalo is a starter, not a bench player like JR, Lou Will or Crawford, so I don't think the comparison stands. I don't think he's worth more than $6-7 mil, but don't you think some team will come up with an offer more than that?
RE: I know FA starts on July 1st  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12348163 giantsfan44ab said:
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but if I remember correctly, players "agree" to deals the deals the day before right? Because I remember a few players were announced as verbal commits to certain teams before it started right?


You can work deals, you can agree to deals, but nothing is official until deals can be signed.
Oh, you meant can it be done before July 1?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/29/2015 4:17 pm : link
No, they can't have contact before then.
Looking at his advanced stats  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 4:17 pm : link
he certainly doesn't deserve more than $7 million a year. He had one season in his career where he posted a PER higher than 15 and that was that year Orlando sucked and he scored like 18 a game.
TTH  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 4:19 pm : link
I guess what I'm asking is will we know where some players are headed tomorrow (even prior to signing) or will we have to wait till Wednesday to find out.?
RE: Looking at his advanced stats  
kash94 : 6/29/2015 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12348176 giantsfan44ab said:
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he certainly doesn't deserve more than $7 million a year. He had one season in his career where he posted a PER higher than 15 and that was that year Orlando sucked and he scored like 18 a game.


He had a PER lower than Shumpert last year lol. I saw something on twitter also about how his on-off the court numbers are also average at best.
RE: Yeah that makes sense  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/29/2015 4:23 pm : link
In comment 12348169 giantsfan44ab said:
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I guess but Afflalo is a starter, not a bench player like JR, Lou Will or Crawford, so I don't think the comparison stands. I don't think he's worth more than $6-7 mil, but don't you think some team will come up with an offer more than that?


If you look back at that offseason, pretty much everyone got 6-8 million dollars... JR Smith, Mayo, Gerald Henderson, Jose Calderon, JJ Redick, and a few other guards who slip my mind at the moment. Belinelli took less to play in San Antonio.
Wow  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:33 pm : link
Aldridge to meet with the Raptors? That's pretty wild because he's guaranteed the max wherever he goes so there is no incentive in trying to play teams against each other. Guess he just wants his balls licked by as many teams as possible
Anyone  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:35 pm : link
on the Rockets worth "helping them" with?

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 47s47 seconds ago
As for Rockets, like we reported last week, Houston WANTS to get in the game for both Aldridge and Kevin Love. Needs to shed salary, tho


I wouldn't mind taking Clint Capela as part of a deal.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:38 pm : link
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RE: Wow  
Jon in NYC : 6/29/2015 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12348198 DanMetroMan said:
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Aldridge to meet with the Raptors? That's pretty wild because he's guaranteed the max wherever he goes so there is no incentive in trying to play teams against each other. Guess he just wants his balls licked by as many teams as possible


Fucking A, you just put the imagine of Masai Ujiri licking Aldridge's balls in my mind.
Rockets woulld have to move Ariza, I think.  
BeerFridge : 6/29/2015 4:40 pm : link
Plus, they fucked us when we needed to clear space

They'd have to pay us back now.
Doubt Capela would be part of the  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 4:42 pm : link
salary shedding ordeal. But I can't see it as being a plus from their standpoint. They'd have to gut their roster of Brewer, Ariza, Papanikalou, Jones and D-mo. Don't know if Aldridge is worth them losing all of that talent.
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:52 pm : link
The Knicks might be going even more Euro!

No longer content merely to dominate the basketball world of tomorrow with Latvian super-stud Kristaps Porzingis, Phil Jackson might be looking to pry the rights to 6'10" power forward Nemanja Bjelica away from the Minnesota Timberwolves, per Eurohoops' Nikos Varlas:

According to Eurohoops sources, the Euroleague MVP has already decided to continue his career in the NBA. He has to sign his new contract until the 10th of July, the date his opt out clause in the contract with Fenerbahce/ Ulker expires. Bjelica has been in contact for a long time with the Timberwolves, however now the Knicks entered the picture.

Bjelica is a unique case and his passing ability makes him a great fit for the triangle offense. Thats probably why the Knicks are really interested on him and they seem willing to offer him a better deal than the one he already has on the table from Minessota. It remains to be seen what Minessota will decide, since the Timberwolves also want the Serbian Forward and Euroleague MVP of the season on their roster for next season.

Bjelica averaged 11.5 points on 53.7 percent shooting (37% from three), 8.2 rebounds and 1.8 assists for the Turkish powerhouse Fenerbahce. Euroleague is the basketball equivalent of the Champions League, so he won MVP honors in a showcase of the best teams from around Europe. Also, he is apparently the Serbian Magic:
RE: RE: Wow  
EricNY33 : 6/29/2015 4:52 pm : link
In comment 12348207 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 12348198 DanMetroMan said:


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Aldridge to meet with the Raptors? That's pretty wild because he's guaranteed the max wherever he goes so there is no incentive in trying to play teams against each other. Guess he just wants his balls licked by as many teams as possible



Fucking A, you just put the imagine of Masai Ujiri licking Aldridge's balls in my mind.


LOL Dan msgd me this on Facebook and I said the exact same thing...
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DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 4:53 pm : link
Euroleague star Nemanja Bjelica is in serious discussions with the Minnesota Timberwolves on an approximate three-year, $12 million-plus deal, but the two sides have been exploring all options, league sources told RealGM.

Bjelica, 27, has moved toward breaking into the NBA after being named the Euroleague MVP this past season. At 6-foot-10, Bjelica is a skilled forward who could play three positions at the NBA level.
assuming the knicks think...  
Italianju : 6/29/2015 4:59 pm : link
that Grant is a PG i dont see why you would invest money in Joseph. Especially enough money that SA wont match. I really liked Joseph, but that was before drafting grant.
Wow  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 5:00 pm : link
he was drafted 5 picks out of the 1st round in 2010. Intrigues me a bit.
Sign those Euros!  
bceagle05 : 6/29/2015 5:02 pm : link
Love that brand of basketball.
Hard  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 5:02 pm : link
to see what the Knicks could offer for Bjelica if the Wolves are willing to pay him 12 (ie they like him). What assets do they have to spare?
If Matthews, Green, and Afflalo are all going to be around the same  
Lopes1984 : 6/29/2015 5:03 pm : link
salary-wise, then Afflalo should be a distant 3rd. I don't think he deserves anywhere near $12 mil per year, the appeal to him was that I figured he would only cost around 8.

I honestly wouldn't even be thrilled if they gave Green that much money, I think he should come in at around 10 per, but I could talk myself into it just because you probably are going to have to overpay to get him away from San Antonio.

Unless  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 5:03 pm : link
they deal Grant I don't see anyone who is going to make any sense for the Wolves to accept.
How  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 5:06 pm : link
much could Ingles possibly cost on an offer sheet?
maybe he told Minnesota  
Enzo : 6/29/2015 5:08 pm : link
he's simply never going to sign there? But if that's the case, other teams would surely be in the mix.
RE: maybe he told Minnesota  
DanMetroMan : 6/29/2015 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12348262 Enzo said:
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he's simply never going to sign there? But if that's the case, other teams would surely be in the mix.


Exactly. If part 1 is true, why would the Knicks and their 100% lack of assets be the ones to land him? They can tell him to fuck off and stay in Europe.
Maybe a future 1st?  
nygiants16 : 6/29/2015 5:10 pm : link
then Knicks just absorb his contract?

I wish Knicks could get rid of Calderon's contract

Cavs are looking for a vet PG maybe they would be interested in Haywood for Calderon?
RE: RE: maybe he told Minnesota  
EricNY33 : 6/29/2015 5:10 pm : link
In comment 12348264 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12348262 Enzo said:


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he's simply never going to sign there? But if that's the case, other teams would surely be in the mix.



Exactly. If part 1 is true, why would the Knicks and their 100% lack of assets be the ones to land him? They can tell him to fuck off and stay in Europe.


If he's never going to sign there maybe he said he wants NY and only NY.
Yeah Calderon's contract  
giantsfan44ab : 6/29/2015 5:15 pm : link
is really inhibiting some good deals we could get before the cap jumps. Could land 2 other solid contracts on top of Monroe (Koufos and Afflalo) if that contract wasn't in the way. Maybe throw in Early and send him off for Haywood? I'd draw the line at Galloway tho, wanna keep him.
.  
Anakim : 6/29/2015 5:21 pm : link
Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 2m2 minutes ago
As the Daily News reported in April, an NBA executive called Greg Monroe to the Knicks "about as close to a done deal as you can get."
They can't be serious  
EricNY33 : 6/29/2015 5:24 pm : link
This is why some rumors are hysterical
What the HELL?!?!?!? - ( New Window )
Aldridge  
Deej : 6/29/2015 5:24 pm : link
Maybe he recognizes that the West is a ridiculous dog fight.

I dont know why he'd go to SAS. Who knows if the wheels are going to fall off the bus there. Look, I love Leonard. Im not convinced he can carry a playoff team. Manu, Duncan, Splitter, and Green are all likely gone this summer or next. Meaning after Leonard (22 PER), what's left is Parker in his mid 30s and in a CLEAR statistical decline, and flotsam. Guys who look good as the 6th-7th best guys on a team and are exposed when you ask more of them.

And why LA? That could work well. Or its the corpse of Kobe, Russell's defensive and athletic concerns prove value, and Randle aint shit/never recovers. Huge risk.
RE: They can't be serious  
Anakim : 6/29/2015 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12348290 EricNY33 said:
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This is why some rumors are hysterical What the HELL?!?!?!? - ( New Window )


I don't get it. Does that mean they're guaranteeing not to sign or trade for anyone else?
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