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CMicks3110 : 6/30/2015 7:03 am
Las Vegas lost 14-7, Tyler Pill is terrible. But what is shocking is that Wally Backman had Jack Leathersich throw 57 pitches over 2 innings. Oh, Mejia pitched a scoreless inning though.
John Gant  
Headhunter : 6/30/2015 7:11 am : link
kind of under the radar 8 innings 0 runs 3 hits 10k and a season ERA around .174
Gant  
CMicks3110 : 6/30/2015 7:13 am : link
was terrible in AA though. Fulmer, as I've been saying, is a legit prospect 7 in 3 H 0 ER 9 Ks, supposedly was hitting 99 in his last start.
mets still have a pretty good farm system despite all the promotions  
CMicks3110 : 6/30/2015 7:19 am : link
Reynolds, Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Dom Smith, Rosario, Buecerra, Fulmer, Meisner, Molina, and you can probably still include Herrera and Plawecki as "prospects" even though i'm not sure they qualify. Still a lot of good trade chips. I'd trade anyone of those guys with the exception of Conforto.
Oh  
CMicks3110 : 6/30/2015 7:19 am : link
and you can throw montero into that group as well.
They have arms in  
Headhunter : 6/30/2015 7:36 am : link
DSL that they are excited about but more so the bats. Long way to go but they do have talent and on July 2 a couple more names will be Mets
I was curious how the Reds would do  
Headhunter : 6/30/2015 7:59 am : link
against the next team after what they faced this weekend. They could of faced Max Scherzer I understand that , but they faced the Twins and put up an 11 spot
Reynolds  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:07 am : link
is looking more and more like a guy that was overhyped. He's been awful lately (his second such extended slump) and his numbers on the season are unimpressive (.729 OPS despite LV and PCL).
Keep  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:07 am : link
in mind Reynolds is 25 in December
Black  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:11 am : link
31 pitches for some reason... only 11 strikes. Not good
Siena  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:12 am : link
off to a nice start
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DMM you know the system  
Headhunter : 6/30/2015 8:21 am : link
Jeff Diehl, Matt Blackham, Nabil Crismatt, Darwin Ramos, Kenneth Bautista, Merandy Gonzalez, Wagner Lagrange, Gabriel Jiminez, Anuery Olivo, Nicolas Debora, Carlos Hernandez, Boris Sanchez Jose Geraldo & Ronalde Guedez


And go!
RE: DMM you know the system  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:24 am : link
In comment 12348805 Headhunter said:
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Jeff Diehl, Matt Blackham, Nabil Crismatt, Darwin Ramos, Kenneth Bautista, Merandy Gonzalez, Wagner Lagrange, Gabriel Jiminez, Anuery Olivo, Nicolas Debora, Carlos Hernandez, Boris Sanchez Jose Geraldo & Ronalde Guedez


And go!


Diehl is repeating BK so they obviously don't think much of him at almost 22 years old, Blackham is tiny but good arm, admittedly don't know a ton about Crismatt or Ramos, Bautista is only 17 so nice start but signed for below slot this year so well see what happens, Debora is 22 years old in the DSL (injuries and PED's), Guedez was a guy Badler liked previously. The others I don't know much about.
Bautista  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:25 am : link
wasn't in BA's top 500 draft prospects
Thanks  
Headhunter : 6/30/2015 8:28 am : link
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Badler  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:35 am : link
liked Debora pre-injury but 2 years later at 22 years old if he's not playing in the US it's not a great sign. Bernal has been good as well but he's older.

Kenny Hernandez signed for 1 million and has been laughably awful. 8 for 76. 17 in August so he has time (obviously) but that's an unusually horrendous start especially for a big IFA.
Bautista  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 8:53 am : link
BIG kid. Hits the ball hard. Literally a kid without a position. He can still learn, but think Murphy/Duda like ability in the OF so far lol.
Hopefully  
spike : 6/30/2015 8:55 am : link
Fulmer will develop into a big chip in our trade deals
RE: Siena  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 8:55 am : link
In comment 12348796 DanMetroMan said:
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off to a nice start Link - ( New Window )


HAAAA. That picture of Sienna, he looks like a high as a kite version of Ryan Braun there!
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 9:37 am : link

Mets targets Andres Gimenez and Gregory Guerrero were ranked #2 and #6 in Baseball America's latest top 30 list of international prospects.
i think fulmer  
sshin05 : 6/30/2015 10:33 am : link
is generally viewed as a bullpen guy but if he keeps this up his value will be higher.

BTW, tons of teams need starting pitching as the standings are shaping up. Cubs need a pitcher who can go more than 5 innings (now that they themselves are in a team wide slump), dodgers can upgrade frias, orioles, rangers, blue jays, tigers, etc. If alderson does this right he can get prospects and/or mlb help with niese AND gee. There are other pitchers that are available who are better (cueto, hamels) than what the mets have but for bargain hunting you can do a lot worse than niese and/or gee.
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arcarsenal : 6/30/2015 10:38 am : link
Would LA do a Niese for Ethier swap and eat a chunk of his deal?
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 10:40 am : link
In comment 12349012 arcarsenal said:
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Would LA do a Niese for Ethier swap and eat a chunk of his deal?


Ethier is owed far too much for this to make sense for the Dodgers. Niese is 01wed 13.5, Ethier is owed 47 so the Dodgers would have to determine that Jon Niese is worth 25-30 million (by eating even 10-12 of his deal).
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arcarsenal : 6/30/2015 10:43 am : link
Sweeten the pot and throw in a B-level prospect. (Thinking out loud)

I think we have to look for OF help rather than IF help at this point. Cuddyer is so bad that we can't keep playing him every day.
Just  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 10:47 am : link
don't see the Dodgers valuing Niese like that. I think the view is the Mets have an extra arm, not "Lets spend 30 million on Jon Niese", Dodgers or not. Just not worth it to them.
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arcarsenal : 6/30/2015 10:52 am : link
If Rollins hadn't been so terrible this year I'd say that was a better swap but he's starting to look forked.

I just don't know what a realistic return for Niese is right now. Especially f the Brewers turned down Niese for A-Ram.

And if the Cubs have interest in Niese I have no idea what we're looking at there because there's no way Niese is fetching any of those MI players. Even Baez.
Vogelbach  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 10:57 am : link
would be a fun add from the Cubs, Pierce Johnson a buy low
Alcantara  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 10:57 am : link
might be realistic
The best Niese return  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 11:07 am : link
Would likely come in a creative three way.
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arcarsenal : 6/30/2015 11:08 am : link
Don't you think the Mets would only be looking for something they think can help right now as opposed to gambling on potential, though?

I feel like Alderson has one bullet in his chamber this year and needs to use it wisely. Not saying it's necessarily Niese or any potential trade chip in particular but based on everything we've heard, it sounds like we're going to be "buyers" on one deal and outside of something else much smaller scale, that's about it.

So.. he'd better get it right. Whatever it winds up being.
as it gets closer to the deadline  
sshin05 : 6/30/2015 11:12 am : link
and if there especially more than one pursuer, i think you can pry a legit prospect from someone.
I'd take Rollins for Niese if they can get an arm throw in  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2015 11:21 am : link
I'd literally take almost anything other than watching Tejada for the rest of the year. Rollins' BABIP, OBP, and BA are all exactly 40 points below his numbers last year, meanwhile his power is apparently still there (7 hrs, 18 xbh). Put him back in the NL East, hope for a little improvement with his BABIP and maybe you catch lightning in a bottle for a couple months. There literally aren't any other SS options out there. Maybe Jed Lowrie since he's been displaced in HOU? But he has 2 years left on his deal. Not sure the Mets would want to take that on.
Carlos Correa  
sshin05 : 6/30/2015 11:21 am : link
I would trade thor/matz + conforto + more for him. I think he's going to be special.
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arcarsenal : 6/30/2015 11:23 am : link
Correa has to be 100% untouchable at this point. Dude is going to be incredible.
Houston wouldn't give him up for anything right now  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2015 11:24 am : link
and rightfully so. There are going to be very few cases where trading any of our 5 pitchers makes sense and even fewer that are realistic.
I was going to go to the game tomorrow night  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 6/30/2015 11:41 am : link
When it was going to be deGrom pitching, but this stupid 6 man rotation made it Colon instead. Darn you Mets!
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 11:46 am : link
Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 9s9 seconds ago
Jon Niese is not an especially appealing option for AL teams: He has allowed .881 OPS over 382 interleague plate appearances.
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Eric on Li : 6/30/2015 12:29 pm : link
In comment 12349139 DanMetroMan said:
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Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 9s9 seconds ago
Jon Niese is not an especially appealing option for AL teams: He has allowed .881 OPS over 382 interleague plate appearances.


That makes sense. I really think his value is pretty low and the best use would be exchanging him for a similarly expendable veteran at a different position.
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 1:00 pm : link
n the end the Mets agreed to pay Matz a bonus of $895,000, nearly $400,000 over slot, and its possible that ownership had no intention of letting him get away. Then again, Minaya on Monday said he was on the phone with Jeff Wilpon more than once in that last hour, urging him to raise their offer.

I remember saying, Jeff, we need to do this. I told him Hey look, we need to get this guy and its not going to happen unless we get to their number,  Minaya said. And to Jeffs credit, he said, OK give it to him. 
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Shecky : 6/30/2015 1:07 pm : link
In comment 12349236 DanMetroMan said:
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n the end the Mets agreed to pay Matz a bonus of $895,000, nearly $400,000 over slot, and its possible that ownership had no intention of letting him get away. Then again, Minaya on Monday said he was on the phone with Jeff Wilpon more than once in that last hour, urging him to raise their offer.

I remember saying, Jeff, we need to do this. I told him Hey look, we need to get this guy and its not going to happen unless we get to their number,  Minaya said. And to Jeffs credit, he said, OK give it to him. 


A bit more to the story, but not sure how I feel about Wilpon on moves like that. You're an owner, defer to your baseball guys. They say pay him, then pay him. Which Jeff eventually agreed to but not until some twisting of the arm.
Niese value tied to the Marlins  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 1:16 pm : link
Just a wild guess here but I assume once Haren is moved, the Niese market finally opens up. Personally I dump Colon for a lesser return than Niese.

I just wish the front office liked being creative. You owe Gee $2.5mm to pitch in AAA as an insurance policy, that you don't need. Offer to pay $2mm of it to a contending team who is under payroll constraints. In exchange, get some IFA slot in return. That's the equivalent of turning Gee into a draft pick/lottery ticket. But that would require balls and creativity lol.
Murphy activated  
pjcas18 : 6/30/2015 2:27 pm : link
Herrera down to LV
RE: Murphy activated  
Eric on Li : 6/30/2015 2:45 pm : link
In comment 12349343 pjcas18 said:
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Herrera down to LV


The right move for Herrera. He really flashed some leather on this stint but he could use a lot more polish.
Dan re Church  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 3:01 pm : link
You asked about him a while back. Haven't heard a thing about him, but supposedly he pitched today. Not sure where. Building his arm up before promotion.
4th rounder lefty HS kid is supposed to throw tomorrow finally.
Herrera showed a lot of batspeed  
CMicks3110 : 6/30/2015 3:04 pm : link
and talent, never seemed to hit line drives, a lot of pop-ups
RE: Dan re Church  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 6:08 pm : link
In comment 12349393 Shecky said:
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You asked about him a while back. Haven't heard a thing about him, but supposedly he pitched today. Not sure where. Building his arm up before promotion.
4th rounder lefty HS kid is supposed to throw tomorrow finally.


Thanks Shecky. I see he's in the GCL now. Must have had some sort of injury issue. Wilson apparently is out with a hammy issue and could join BK soon.
Wilson  
Shecky : 6/30/2015 8:19 pm : link
Lol. I completely forgot about him. Thanks.
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