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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:10 am
- Will meet with Aldridge and Jordan, Melo has already spoken to LA

-Gasol is only meeting with Memphis

- Knicks targeting Danny Green, Carroll, Monroe, and Matthews
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Shved  
GMEN46 : 6/30/2015 8:15 am : link
Can Knicks use their cap space and then go over the cap to sign shved. Nothing crazy, but if shved wants $3mm per year is that option available. I read somewhere that maybe we can do that as long as we don't renounce his rights? I would like to bring him back if possible.
Berman  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:17 am : link
According to an NBA executive, Jacksons recruiting strategy is to home in on selling the game and winning not outside business ventures found in Manhattan. Jackson does not want to repeat the same mistake made by the Knicks in 2010, when they last enjoyed enormous cap space.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.
No West?  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:17 am : link

But an NBA source said West, at his age, is not coming to the Knicks because he wants to play for a team closer to title contention.
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DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 8:21 am : link
NBA Flash News ‏@NBAFLASHNEWS 26m26 minutes ago
The New York Knicks have declined to extend a qualifying offer worth $1.181M to Quincy Acy. (Via Marc J. Spears - Yahoo Sports)


First day players can sign is 7/9
Not heartbroken  
Jon in NYC : 6/30/2015 8:35 am : link
about West.

I still think we need to add 3 guys. Monroe/DJ, a SG, and big man depth.
Zach Lowe lists potential Free Agent Buy Low candidates  
BeerFridge : 6/30/2015 8:38 am : link
Bismack Biyombo is top of list.

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But Biyombo is a force at the basket, and he could develop into a threatening pick-and-roll dunk machine. Nabbing Biyombo at $3 million or $4 million per season might turn into a bargain, especially after the cap leaps in 2016-17. That kind of salary is already a team-friendly price for a backup big who can start in a pinch, provided the right kind of personnel is around him.


Other BBI mentioned guys: O'Quinn, Joseph

An interesting name I hadn't considered. Derrick Williams. Could be an interesting guy to split time at the 4 with KP.
NBA Groupon shopping - ( New Window )
I knew as soon as i made a thread...  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 8:38 am : link
one would show up. Im deleting mine but here is what i had, some is a repeat of what Dan said but it was easier to copy the whole thing:

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Free agency officially starts at Midnight tonight!

-Aldridge already has 2 meetings scheduled for tonight (LA and HOU). All teams will meet with him in LA. Knicks get the last meeting with him tomorrow. I doubt you can read anything into that, but its nice to have the last word.

-Gasol isnt even taking meetings

-According to Woj knicks are frontrunners for Monroe and Afflalo.

-Knicks will meet with D. Jordan on Thursday (I think).

-Mavs and Raptors showing early interest in Mathews who apparently is recovering really well.

-Jackson is expected to sell guys on winning and not on all the marketing opportunities in NY.
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According to an NBA executive, Jacksons recruiting strategy is to home in on selling the game and winning not outside business ventures found in Manhattan. Jackson does not want to repeat the same mistake made by the Knicks in 2010, when they last enjoyed enormous cap space.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.


-Sounds like there is mutual interest between the Knicks and Danny Green but it seems like his preference is to return to SA.
Lowe also said this.....  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 8:39 am : link
Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 11h11 hours ago
That said, I think there might be more Biyombo interest on Twitter than in real NBA. 1 team mentioned often --BOS-- not super interested yet
The Knicks still dont fucking get the summer of LeBron  
Deej : 6/30/2015 8:39 am : link
the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.

It wasnt the fucking pitch.
Premature Roster Prediction  
Pep22 : 6/30/2015 8:40 am : link
C: Greg Monroe, Jason Smith, Ovidijus Galdikas

PF: David West, Kristaps Porzingis, Lou Amundson

SF: Melo, Al Farooq Aminu, Cleanthony Early

SG: Aaron Affaolo, Alexi Schved, Atetokuompo

PG: Jerian Grant, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway
Not knocking the accuracy of your prediction  
bigbluehoya : 6/30/2015 8:44 am : link
But I will be praying that it's incorrect, because that team sucks IMO.
Shop in the bargain bin  
Deej : 6/30/2015 8:47 am : link
Im fine with 60/4 for Monroe. Other signings should be guys like the ones on Lowe's list. You sign 3 of them and one or two will out perform their contract significantly. In salary cap sports you need to out perform contracts. Playing full price for guys like Afflalo and Carroll is a mistake IMO; they're not going to exceed their contract price.

Get the next 3 and D guy. Dont pay for yesterday's 3 and D guy.
RE: Premature Roster Prediction  
Lopes1984 : 6/30/2015 8:50 am : link
In comment 12348827 Pep22 said:
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C: Greg Monroe, Jason Smith, Ovidijus Galdikas

PF: David West, Kristaps Porzingis, Lou Amundson

SF: Melo, Al Farooq Aminu, Cleanthony Early

SG: Aaron Affaolo, Alexi Schved, Atetokuompo

PG: Jerian Grant, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway


There is no way that they can sign Monroe, Afflalo, and West without moving Calderon.
Just trying to be reasonable  
Pep22 : 6/30/2015 8:53 am : link
I don't see Gasol, DAJ, LMA, Love etc. coming.

Also, while that team isn't better than a 40 win team, its an honest day's work team without the drama, unprofessionalism, defensive indifference that has marked this franchise in recent years (i.e. 10 years).
Pep  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:01 am : link
his point is we can't afford to sign West, Monroe, and Afflalo is Calderon is on the roster, forget Aminu. The cap is at $66 million not $80 million
Something to be said for that  
bigbluehoya : 6/30/2015 9:02 am : link
But that roster looks like the money was burning a hole in our pocket and we just had to spend it.

Like Monroe.

Would only like West on the cheap, which is highly unlikely.

Pass hard on Afflalo at the numbers floated.

Aminu is interesting.
*if Calderon  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:02 am : link
.
Aldridge should be a Knick  
BeerFridge : 6/30/2015 9:03 am : link
He was initially picked with the Knicks draft pick, after all.
Screw Aminu  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:05 am : link
he's a shitty Iman Shumpert thats gonna get around $5 million at least by the Mavs.
Im still hoping the numbers floated on Afflalo...  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 9:06 am : link
was just someone connecting the dots and seeing how much the knicks had left after signing monroe. If we are offering 12 mill that should be enough to get Green or Mathews and both are better then afflalo. That said id be pretty nervous signing Green to 12 mill, the Knicks are not the spurs. Much more of a focus will be on Green. I joked yesterday, but id give Wade 12 mill before afflalo, at least you get good or better production for the 60 games he will play.

I'd take Wade at  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:08 am : link
$16 anyday over Afflalo at $12.
Does Wade have anything left  
PA Giant Fan : 6/30/2015 9:10 am : link
Thought he was close to done
i dunno bout 16...  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 9:11 am : link
but i get your point. Afflalo to me is a middle of the pack SG. He can def be a solid starter on a good team. That said he isnt worth 12 mill. Maybe when you factor in the cap increase he will be, but that doesnt do us a ton of good right now.
Wade certainly has  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:11 am : link
some left, but I don't think he's worth whatever hes going to get from some team. I still think he is a top SG, and that may be more of an indictment of the lack of elite 2 guards but still.
Wade isnt done...  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 9:12 am : link
but he cant be counted on for anywhere near 80 games. Look i dont want Wade at all, i was just saying id rather pay him then afflalo.
He's 5" bigger than  
Pep22 : 6/30/2015 9:13 am : link
Shump
Yeah me too  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:13 am : link
No Wade. No Afflalo at more than $8M.
And Hasheem Thabeet  
giantsfan44ab : 6/30/2015 9:14 am : link
is 5 inches taller than Dwight Howard.
Id be more willing to go for a Wade..  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 9:15 am : link
if we got Jordan. If that team hit the playoffs healthy it could do some damage in a shitty east. You would need to waive/stretch Calderon to get that extra 3-4 mill but you would prolly get some solid vets to play with Melo, Wade, Jordan.

Grant/Vet
Wade/Galloway
Melo/Early
Vet/KP
Jordan/Aldrich/Vet

I wouldnt hate it, of course we are the knicks so in the opening game im sure Wade's leg would fall off.
3-D  
Lopes1984 : 6/30/2015 9:17 am : link
I know it's never going to happen because of the stupid shit he said about Melo, but if the guy to look at as a 3-D shooting guard is Jared Dudley. He is a good perimeter defender, his DRPM was better than both Matthews and Green last year, he is a career 40% 3pt shooter, and he will probably cost half as much as the other guys being mentioned.

Again I know it probably won't happen because of his comments about Melo being overrated, but I'd probably rather have him at 6 mil or so per year rather than Afflalo or Green at 12.
Dudley also is more of a SF..  
Italianju : 6/30/2015 9:20 am : link
then a SG. I also hate advanced stats (especially defensive) on guys who play backup minutes. Mostly cause they are playing against other backups.
No  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 9:26 am : link
interest in Wade but if the rumored numbers are accurate

Affalo at 36-39 or Wade at 3 for 48 I'll take Wade
RE: I'd take Wade at  
Tuckrule : 6/30/2015 9:29 am : link
In comment 12348861 giantsfan44ab said:
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$16 anyday over Afflalo at $12.


Give me the guy who's going to play more than 50 games and be 4 mill cheaper and able to play defense
The Hornets..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/30/2015 9:31 am : link
aren't going to resign Bismack Biyombo. Horrific offensive player, but if signed for a reasonable amount as a match-up defender, he'd be a good fit for the Knicks.

A reasonable amount is the key, though. Don't overpay for a one-dimensional guy who still is raw in many aspects.
Now that the Knicks have committed to Porzingis  
Audible : 6/30/2015 9:31 am : link
I really, really hope that whatever FA plan they're working off of involves giving him 25-30 minutes a game this seasion. Not necessarily 25 minutes from Day 1 - it's OK to give him a few games to get his sea legs - and not necessarily as a starter, but since the Knicks have chosen the option with the steepest development curve, the only way this is likely to work out is if they actually commit to playing him and don't pull back if there are some serious growing pains. Because there are almost certainly going to be stretches where Porzingis looks like a fish out of water.
RE: RE: I'd take Wade at  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12348897 Tuckrule said:
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In comment 12348861 giantsfan44ab said:


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$16 anyday over Afflalo at $12.



Give me the guy who's going to play more than 50 games and be 4 mill cheaper and able to play defense


Metrics suggest Affalo's defense is actually overrated. Affalo also isn't exactly an iron man. From 2012-2014 he's missed 20, 18 and 9 games.
Biyombo  
DanMetroMan : 6/30/2015 9:36 am : link
3 years 13.5 seems fair
One great stat about..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/30/2015 9:38 am : link
Biyombo - he averages 21 minutes a game, but 6.2 rebounds during that time.
Just to add to Dan's post  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:39 am : link
Melo has talked to Jordan, Monroe and Affalo as well...

Stein said on SC that theKnicks and MAvs are the biggest threats to take Jordan from the clippers and the Knicks are confident in their pitch to him...

RE: Now that the Knicks have committed to Porzingis  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:40 am : link
In comment 12348901 Audible said:
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I really, really hope that whatever FA plan they're working off of involves giving him 25-30 minutes a game this seasion. Not necessarily 25 minutes from Day 1 - it's OK to give him a few games to get his sea legs - and not necessarily as a starter, but since the Knicks have chosen the option with the steepest development curve, the only way this is likely to work out is if they actually commit to playing him and don't pull back if there are some serious growing pains. Because there are almost certainly going to be stretches where Porzingis looks like a fish out of water.


Porzingis is going to play from day 1...he has a skill that will translate well to the NBA and will get him onto the court for at least 25 minutes a game...

If Knicks sign Jordan, i would have no problem starting him next to Melo and Jordan day 1..he would be a great fit next to those 2..
as said in another thread  
hitdog42 : 6/30/2015 9:41 am : link
affalo is no better then a rich mans alan Anderson... who is a vet min type guy... give him those minutes and he can put up 12 pts a game and actually play better defense.

afflalo had 1 excellent stretch on a decent team and its got him paid and a reputation.

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nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:43 am : link
Shams Charania ‏@ShamsCharania 10h10 hours ago
Cleveland's Mike Miller has opted into his $2.8M deal for 2015-16, league source tells RealGM.
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nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:44 am : link
Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 26m26 minutes ago
As I wrote, FA Travis Wear will be on #Knicks summer-league team and could be at training camp. That's why no "6'' for Porzingis in Vegas
Old news?  
Canton : 6/30/2015 9:47 am : link
Porzingis may not start summer league due to hip ailment. Bad hips already for the big man?
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Old news?  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:49 am : link
In comment 12348930 Canton said:
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Porzingis may not start summer league due to hip ailment. Bad hips already for the big man? Link - ( New Window )


It is not bad hips, it is soreness from working out so much..Brother said he would be back on the court in a couple of days, just needed some rest...
RE: The Knicks still dont fucking get the summer of LeBron  
EricNY33 : 6/30/2015 9:49 am : link
In comment 12348825 Deej said:
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the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.

It wasnt the fucking pitch.


As long as we know that's all I care about.
I know  
kash94 : 6/30/2015 9:50 am : link
it's been mentioned but I'd be careful to not spend all our cap space this summer for the sake of using it. Knicks need to be strategic and if that involves having a solid amount of space left over going into the season, that's fine. Would rather do that than lock the team up into bad deals again.
RE: RE: The Knicks still dont fucking get the summer of LeBron  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:50 am : link
In comment 12348934 EricNY33 said:
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In comment 12348825 Deej said:


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the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.

It wasnt the fucking pitch.



As long as we know that's all I care about.


With Melo already out recruiting, i think they know that..
RE: I know  
nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:50 am : link
In comment 12348936 kash94 said:
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it's been mentioned but I'd be careful to not spend all our cap space this summer for the sake of using it. Knicks need to be strategic and if that involves having a solid amount of space left over going into the season, that's fine. Would rather do that than lock the team up into bad deals again.


Even if they use all of their cap space they will not be locked into this team...
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nygiants16 : 6/30/2015 9:54 am : link
Michael Scotto ‏@MikeAScotto 23s24 seconds ago
Brook Lopez is expected to re-sign with the Nets. He wants to stay. Lionel Hollins & Billy King want him back & Mason Plumlee was traded.
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