Can Knicks use their cap space and then go over the cap to sign shved. Nothing crazy, but if shved wants $3mm per year is that option available. I read somewhere that maybe we can do that as long as we don't renounce his rights? I would like to bring him back if possible.
According to an NBA executive, Jacksons recruiting strategy is to home in on selling the game and winning not outside business ventures found in Manhattan. Jackson does not want to repeat the same mistake made by the Knicks in 2010, when they last enjoyed enormous cap space.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.
NBA Flash News @NBAFLASHNEWS 26m26 minutes ago
The New York Knicks have declined to extend a qualifying offer worth $1.181M to Quincy Acy. (Via Marc J. Spears - Yahoo Sports)
But Biyombo is a force at the basket, and he could develop into a threatening pick-and-roll dunk machine. Nabbing Biyombo at $3 million or $4 million per season might turn into a bargain, especially after the cap leaps in 2016-17. That kind of salary is already a team-friendly price for a backup big who can start in a pinch, provided the right kind of personnel is around him.
Other BBI mentioned guys: O'Quinn, Joseph
An interesting name I hadn't considered. Derrick Williams. Could be an interesting guy to split time at the 4 with KP. NBA Groupon shopping - ( New Window )
one would show up. Im deleting mine but here is what i had, some is a repeat of what Dan said but it was easier to copy the whole thing:
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Free agency officially starts at Midnight tonight!
-Aldridge already has 2 meetings scheduled for tonight (LA and HOU). All teams will meet with him in LA. Knicks get the last meeting with him tomorrow. I doubt you can read anything into that, but its nice to have the last word.
-Gasol isnt even taking meetings
-According to Woj knicks are frontrunners for Monroe and Afflalo.
-Knicks will meet with D. Jordan on Thursday (I think).
-Mavs and Raptors showing early interest in Mathews who apparently is recovering really well.
-Jackson is expected to sell guys on winning and not on all the marketing opportunities in NY.
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According to an NBA executive, Jacksons recruiting strategy is to home in on selling the game and winning not outside business ventures found in Manhattan. Jackson does not want to repeat the same mistake made by the Knicks in 2010, when they last enjoyed enormous cap space.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.
-Sounds like there is mutual interest between the Knicks and Danny Green but it seems like his preference is to return to SA.
Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA 11h11 hours ago
That said, I think there might be more Biyombo interest on Twitter than in real NBA. 1 team mentioned often --BOS-- not super interested yet
The Knicks still dont fucking get the summer of LeBron
the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.
Im fine with 60/4 for Monroe. Other signings should be guys like the ones on Lowe's list. You sign 3 of them and one or two will out perform their contract significantly. In salary cap sports you need to out perform contracts. Playing full price for guys like Afflalo and Carroll is a mistake IMO; they're not going to exceed their contract price.
Get the next 3 and D guy. Dont pay for yesterday's 3 and D guy.
Also, while that team isn't better than a 40 win team, its an honest day's work team without the drama, unprofessionalism, defensive indifference that has marked this franchise in recent years (i.e. 10 years).
was just someone connecting the dots and seeing how much the knicks had left after signing monroe. If we are offering 12 mill that should be enough to get Green or Mathews and both are better then afflalo. That said id be pretty nervous signing Green to 12 mill, the Knicks are not the spurs. Much more of a focus will be on Green. I joked yesterday, but id give Wade 12 mill before afflalo, at least you get good or better production for the 60 games he will play.
but i get your point. Afflalo to me is a middle of the pack SG. He can def be a solid starter on a good team. That said he isnt worth 12 mill. Maybe when you factor in the cap increase he will be, but that doesnt do us a ton of good right now.
some left, but I don't think he's worth whatever hes going to get from some team. I still think he is a top SG, and that may be more of an indictment of the lack of elite 2 guards but still.
if we got Jordan. If that team hit the playoffs healthy it could do some damage in a shitty east. You would need to waive/stretch Calderon to get that extra 3-4 mill but you would prolly get some solid vets to play with Melo, Wade, Jordan.
I know it's never going to happen because of the stupid shit he said about Melo, but if the guy to look at as a 3-D shooting guard is Jared Dudley. He is a good perimeter defender, his DRPM was better than both Matthews and Green last year, he is a career 40% 3pt shooter, and he will probably cost half as much as the other guys being mentioned.
Again I know it probably won't happen because of his comments about Melo being overrated, but I'd probably rather have him at 6 mil or so per year rather than Afflalo or Green at 12.
aren't going to resign Bismack Biyombo. Horrific offensive player, but if signed for a reasonable amount as a match-up defender, he'd be a good fit for the Knicks.
A reasonable amount is the key, though. Don't overpay for a one-dimensional guy who still is raw in many aspects.
I really, really hope that whatever FA plan they're working off of involves giving him 25-30 minutes a game this seasion. Not necessarily 25 minutes from Day 1 - it's OK to give him a few games to get his sea legs - and not necessarily as a starter, but since the Knicks have chosen the option with the steepest development curve, the only way this is likely to work out is if they actually commit to playing him and don't pull back if there are some serious growing pains. Because there are almost certainly going to be stretches where Porzingis looks like a fish out of water.
Melo has talked to Jordan, Monroe and Affalo as well...
Stein said on SC that theKnicks and MAvs are the biggest threats to take Jordan from the clippers and the Knicks are confident in their pitch to him...
RE: Now that the Knicks have committed to Porzingis
I really, really hope that whatever FA plan they're working off of involves giving him 25-30 minutes a game this seasion. Not necessarily 25 minutes from Day 1 - it's OK to give him a few games to get his sea legs - and not necessarily as a starter, but since the Knicks have chosen the option with the steepest development curve, the only way this is likely to work out is if they actually commit to playing him and don't pull back if there are some serious growing pains. Because there are almost certainly going to be stretches where Porzingis looks like a fish out of water.
Porzingis is going to play from day 1...he has a skill that will translate well to the NBA and will get him onto the court for at least 25 minutes a game...
If Knicks sign Jordan, i would have no problem starting him next to Melo and Jordan day 1..he would be a great fit next to those 2..
affalo is no better then a rich mans alan Anderson... who is a vet min type guy... give him those minutes and he can put up 12 pts a game and actually play better defense.
afflalo had 1 excellent stretch on a decent team and its got him paid and a reputation.
Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman 26m26 minutes ago
As I wrote, FA Travis Wear will be on #Knicks summer-league team and could be at training camp. That's why no "6'' for Porzingis in Vegas
the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.
it's been mentioned but I'd be careful to not spend all our cap space this summer for the sake of using it. Knicks need to be strategic and if that involves having a solid amount of space left over going into the season, that's fine. Would rather do that than lock the team up into bad deals again.
RE: RE: The Knicks still dont fucking get the summer of LeBron
the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.
It wasnt the fucking pitch.
As long as we know that's all I care about.
With Melo already out recruiting, i think they know that..
it's been mentioned but I'd be careful to not spend all our cap space this summer for the sake of using it. Knicks need to be strategic and if that involves having a solid amount of space left over going into the season, that's fine. Would rather do that than lock the team up into bad deals again.
Even if they use all of their cap space they will not be locked into this team...
Michael Scotto @MikeAScotto 23s24 seconds ago
Brook Lopez is expected to re-sign with the Nets. He wants to stay. Lionel Hollins & Billy King want him back & Mason Plumlee was traded.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.
But an NBA source said West, at his age, is not coming to the Knicks because he wants to play for a team closer to title contention.
The New York Knicks have declined to extend a qualifying offer worth $1.181M to Quincy Acy. (Via Marc J. Spears - Yahoo Sports)
First day players can sign is 7/9
I still think we need to add 3 guys. Monroe/DJ, a SG, and big man depth.
Other BBI mentioned guys: O'Quinn, Joseph
An interesting name I hadn't considered. Derrick Williams. Could be an interesting guy to split time at the 4 with KP.
NBA Groupon shopping - ( New Window )
-Aldridge already has 2 meetings scheduled for tonight (LA and HOU). All teams will meet with him in LA. Knicks get the last meeting with him tomorrow. I doubt you can read anything into that, but its nice to have the last word.
-Gasol isnt even taking meetings
-According to Woj knicks are frontrunners for Monroe and Afflalo.
-Knicks will meet with D. Jordan on Thursday (I think).
-Mavs and Raptors showing early interest in Mathews who apparently is recovering really well.
-Jackson is expected to sell guys on winning and not on all the marketing opportunities in NY.
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According to an NBA executive, Jacksons recruiting strategy is to home in on selling the game and winning not outside business ventures found in Manhattan. Jackson does not want to repeat the same mistake made by the Knicks in 2010, when they last enjoyed enormous cap space.
The organization got so caught up in selling free agents such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on New York being the haven to expand their celebrity and brand, the club forgot about the basics winning.
-Sounds like there is mutual interest between the Knicks and Danny Green but it seems like his preference is to return to SA.
That said, I think there might be more Biyombo interest on Twitter than in real NBA. 1 team mentioned often --BOS-- not super interested yet
It wasnt the fucking pitch.
PF: David West, Kristaps Porzingis, Lou Amundson
SF: Melo, Al Farooq Aminu, Cleanthony Early
SG: Aaron Affaolo, Alexi Schved, Atetokuompo
PG: Jerian Grant, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway
Get the next 3 and D guy. Dont pay for yesterday's 3 and D guy.
PF: David West, Kristaps Porzingis, Lou Amundson
SF: Melo, Al Farooq Aminu, Cleanthony Early
SG: Aaron Affaolo, Alexi Schved, Atetokuompo
PG: Jerian Grant, Jose Calderon, Langston Galloway
There is no way that they can sign Monroe, Afflalo, and West without moving Calderon.
Also, while that team isn't better than a 40 win team, its an honest day's work team without the drama, unprofessionalism, defensive indifference that has marked this franchise in recent years (i.e. 10 years).
Like Monroe.
Would only like West on the cheap, which is highly unlikely.
Pass hard on Afflalo at the numbers floated.
Aminu is interesting.
Grant/Vet
Wade/Galloway
Melo/Early
Vet/KP
Jordan/Aldrich/Vet
I wouldnt hate it, of course we are the knicks so in the opening game im sure Wade's leg would fall off.
Again I know it probably won't happen because of his comments about Melo being overrated, but I'd probably rather have him at 6 mil or so per year rather than Afflalo or Green at 12.
Affalo at 36-39 or Wade at 3 for 48 I'll take Wade
Give me the guy who's going to play more than 50 games and be 4 mill cheaper and able to play defense
A reasonable amount is the key, though. Don't overpay for a one-dimensional guy who still is raw in many aspects.
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$16 anyday over Afflalo at $12.
Give me the guy who's going to play more than 50 games and be 4 mill cheaper and able to play defense
Metrics suggest Affalo's defense is actually overrated. Affalo also isn't exactly an iron man. From 2012-2014 he's missed 20, 18 and 9 games.
Stein said on SC that theKnicks and MAvs are the biggest threats to take Jordan from the clippers and the Knicks are confident in their pitch to him...
Porzingis is going to play from day 1...he has a skill that will translate well to the NBA and will get him onto the court for at least 25 minutes a game...
If Knicks sign Jordan, i would have no problem starting him next to Melo and Jordan day 1..he would be a great fit next to those 2..
afflalo had 1 excellent stretch on a decent team and its got him paid and a reputation.
Cleveland's Mike Miller has opted into his $2.8M deal for 2015-16, league source tells RealGM.
As I wrote, FA Travis Wear will be on #Knicks summer-league team and could be at training camp. That's why no "6'' for Porzingis in Vegas
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It is not bad hips, it is soreness from working out so much..Brother said he would be back on the court in a couple of days, just needed some rest...
It wasnt the fucking pitch.
As long as we know that's all I care about.
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the lesson there was that three players wanted to team up together, and only the Heat could facilitate that. It didnt hurt that Wade was already there and a champion, and that Miami is not a bad town to live or play in.
It wasnt the fucking pitch.
As long as we know that's all I care about.
With Melo already out recruiting, i think they know that..
Even if they use all of their cap space they will not be locked into this team...
Brook Lopez is expected to re-sign with the Nets. He wants to stay. Lionel Hollins & Billy King want him back & Mason Plumlee was traded.