Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard 23s24 seconds ago
Sources: After CHI offered @JimmyButler max 5/$90-plus Mon, JB postponed meeting w/LAL, BOS, PHI, DAL. JB deciding how many yrs 2 sign w/CHI
3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
didn't get the QO doesn't mean he won't get 5.5. A team would have to give up something to trade for him, but now its just money. Also its Jordan we are talking about, has he ever made the right move?
Again I'm on board with Bismack. His offense is atrocious though so he def has his issues, which is why you can get him for 5-7 mill or whatever.
Im a pretty optimistic fan, but id have a real hard time dealing with a 3/38 mill deal for Afflalo. Its just such a gross overpay for a guy who doesn't even have upside, i mean he is what he is at this point.
could be a solid player, but I think Afflalo is the better player. That said id much rather sign G. Green (is he a FA?) for 5 then afflalo for 12. I really don't want to pay afflalo more then 8-9 and he is def going to get more then that.
3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
You can substitute Danny or Gerald Green in that and it still would work. We can go back and forth arguing how Afflalo is a better defender despite having worse advanced numbers in every category, but that doesn't justify being paid 4 times as much as him.
3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
My mistake. I still think Danny Green would be a perfect fit. No way SA can afford to keep him, he's a Long Island native who spends much of the offseason back home. I think it would be a nice move for him and us
could be a solid player, but I think Afflalo is the better player. That said id much rather sign G. Green (is he a FA?) for 5 then afflalo for 12. I really don't want to pay afflalo more then 8-9 and he is def going to get more then that.
This is a reasonable way to look at it. Gerald Green is talented but flawed. He's not better than Afflalo. But if the contract is much less, he could be the better value. The thing about Green is that every coach he's had has sent him packing. He's not easy to coach. The Knicks could really use some solid veterans in the mix and Afflalo offers that in spades.
now saying the Knicks WILL getting a meeting with Gasol, Marc Stein says Gasol won't be meeting with other teams... who is right?
with San Antonio seemingly out of the picture due to their pursuit of LMA, I would think Gasol needs another team in the running to force Memphis to go the full 5 year max.
3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
My mistake. I still think Danny Green would be a perfect fit. No way SA can afford to keep him, he's a Long Island native who spends much of the offseason back home. I think it would be a nice move for him and us
Yes, they can only keep him if they don't go for LMA. And the Knicks should be picking at the edges of their roster as much as possible, too. Cory Joseph, for example.
What is clear is that teams such as the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Milwaukee Bucks -- all of whom had designs on making a run at the Spaniard in free agency -- have essentially abandoned those plans.
The same goes for the San Antonio Spurs, who were widely believed to be the only team that had a shot at luring Gasol out of his Memphis comfort zone that dates back to his high school days when brother Pau was still playing for the Grizzlies.
What is clear is that teams such as the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Milwaukee Bucks -- all of whom had designs on making a run at the Spaniard in free agency -- have essentially abandoned those plans.
made sense before you drafted Grant. I think Green might be gone with our without LMA. If the knicks have even thought about offering Afflalo 10+ id assume they would give it to Green and even without LMA I'm not sure SA offers Green that much money. They still have to resign Duncan, Ginobili, and Leonard and I'm guessing they would like to keep Joseph as well.
At some point, signing young guys is going to inhibit the growth of our current young guys. I might be more optimistic on Galloway than anyone else here, but he can hit 3s, can create shots, and is an active defender. I'd like to see what he can do when he isn't the primary focus of the offense. You can have Grant guard 2s and stick him on 1s on defense. I think he works out well playing alongside starting caliber NBA players. Could give us 12 points and 4 assists per game I think.
Don't think we're going to see any major moves at the stroke of midnight. Most of the top FAs have meetings Wed/Thurs. As much as I would like good news quickly, I think we will have to wait a couple of days at least! (hope I'm wrong-lol)
But that roster looks like the money was burning a hole in our pocket and we just had to spend it.
Like Monroe.
Would only like West on the cheap, which is highly unlikely.
Pass hard on Afflalo at the numbers floated.
Aminu is interesting.
Yep. Went from being "smart" about free agency this year and next to hey someone, anyone take Dolan's money. What's the plan Phil?
This is my real concern. That we treat FA like the old version of Wheel of Fortune, where the winner of every round had to spend all their winnings on the few pieces of shit that were put on the stage.
We should be focused on acquiring assets smartly. I dont really care if we havent spent our UFA bucks 3 weeks from today. You can make trades now, or go into the season under the cap and be a facilitator in a trade.
Just dont hand out untradable garbage contracts to guys exiting their prime years. That's just stupid. For once dont be the stupid money at the table.
According to Wojnarowski's report, the Kings are reportedly searching for ways to terminate Karl for "cause" and get out from under the three years and nearly $10 million they owe him guaranteed. That would be based around Karl's behind-the-scenes machinations to deal Cousins.
As one league official familiar with Ranadive's mindset told Yahoo Sports, "He's trying to find a magic button to push that'll fix everything."
According to Wojnarowski's report, the Kings are reportedly searching for ways to terminate Karl for "cause" and get out from under the three years and nearly $10 million they owe him guaranteed. That would be based around Karl's behind-the-scenes machinations to deal Cousins.
As one league official familiar with Ranadive's mindset told Yahoo Sports, "He's trying to find a magic button to push that'll fix everything."
this is like Larry Brown, Dolan, and Isiah all over again.
For those who said the 5th year would be a big deal
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard 35s36 seconds ago
Sources: @deandrejordan6 likely to do 4-yr deal, player opt after 3, no matter where he signs. Allows him 2,capitalize on new TV $ n few yrs
ohn Calipari @UKCoachCalipari 29s29 seconds ago
For the 100th time, I have the best basketball coaching position in the world. I am not looking for any other coaching position.
towards leaving LAC? Otherwise why not sign a 5 year deal with an opt out after 3. Or it could just be broussard passing off common knowledge as some sort of rumor.
Sasha Kaun is close to signing a contract with the Nets, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union.
Kaun will have to pass the physicals before signing with the Nets.
Kaun retired from European basketball looking for a deal in the NBA.
His NBA rights are owned by the Cavaliers so if he wants to sign with the Nets he has to be traded to Brooklyn first.
"1. TRADE BORIS DIAW WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Diaw is one of the team's most important players, but started to slow down during the regular season. He signed a four-year, $28 million deal in the summer of 2014. The deal declines each season, is partially-guaranteed in Year 3 and fully unguaranteed in Year 4.
Any team with cap space that's looking for a playmaking power forward might give him a look, but the Spurs may have to attach additional draft picks and/or the rights to players the Spurs have stashed overseas to entice teams. They might still do that if it means keeping Splitter. Diaw turns 33 and could see his production nosedive on a different team."
2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
2016 $3M guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/16
2017 non-guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 7/15/17
$500k unlikely incentives (meets certain weight requirements throughout the season)
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on Oct. 25
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on the first Tuesday after the All-Star Game
$200,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on April 1
Source: PBT
2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
2016 $3M guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/16
2017 non-guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 7/15/17
$500k unlikely incentives (meets certain weight requirements throughout the season)
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on Oct. 25
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on the first Tuesday after the All-Star Game
$200,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on April 1
Source: PBT
2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
Sounds like Diaw only has 3 million guaranteed if waived after this upcoming season
2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
Sounds like Diaw only has 3 million guaranteed if waived after this upcoming season
Yea didn't know that when I originally posted that haha
Sources: After CHI offered @JimmyButler max 5/$90-plus Mon, JB postponed meeting w/LAL, BOS, PHI, DAL. JB deciding how many yrs 2 sign w/CHI
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
Again I'm on board with Bismack. His offense is atrocious though so he def has his issues, which is why you can get him for 5-7 mill or whatever.
Im a pretty optimistic fan, but id have a real hard time dealing with a 3/38 mill deal for Afflalo. Its just such a gross overpay for a guy who doesn't even have upside, i mean he is what he is at this point.
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3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
You can substitute Danny or Gerald Green in that and it still would work. We can go back and forth arguing how Afflalo is a better defender despite having worse advanced numbers in every category, but that doesn't justify being paid 4 times as much as him.
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3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
My mistake. I still think Danny Green would be a perfect fit. No way SA can afford to keep him, he's a Long Island native who spends much of the offseason back home. I think it would be a nice move for him and us
This is a reasonable way to look at it. Gerald Green is talented but flawed. He's not better than Afflalo. But if the contract is much less, he could be the better value. The thing about Green is that every coach he's had has sent him packing. He's not easy to coach. The Knicks could really use some solid veterans in the mix and Afflalo offers that in spades.
with San Antonio seemingly out of the picture due to their pursuit of LMA, I would think Gasol needs another team in the running to force Memphis to go the full 5 year max.
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3 point shooter and a better defender then Afflalo IMO.. two things this team absolutely needs. He is also youger. Green, Monroe and O'quinn or Koufos would be a nice haul. Or Deandre and Green
He was talking about Gerald Green, to be clear.
My mistake. I still think Danny Green would be a perfect fit. No way SA can afford to keep him, he's a Long Island native who spends much of the offseason back home. I think it would be a nice move for him and us
Yes, they can only keep him if they don't go for LMA. And the Knicks should be picking at the edges of their roster as much as possible, too. Cory Joseph, for example.
If Phil pulls a rabbit out of his hat and finds a way..
The same goes for the San Antonio Spurs, who were widely believed to be the only team that had a shot at luring Gasol out of his Memphis comfort zone that dates back to his high school days when brother Pau was still playing for the Grizzlies.
What is clear is that teams such as the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Milwaukee Bucks -- all of whom had designs on making a run at the Spaniard in free agency -- have essentially abandoned those plans.
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now saying the Knicks WILL getting a meeting with Gasol, Marc Stein says Gasol won't be meeting with other teams... who is right?
If Phil pulls a rabbit out of his hat and finds a way..
Sell him on a short deal, another star next year, and the promise of Dolan's checkbook as he ages.
Don't think we're going to see any major moves at the stroke of midnight. Most of the top FAs have meetings Wed/Thurs. As much as I would like good news quickly, I think we will have to wait a couple of days at least! (hope I'm wrong-lol)
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But that roster looks like the money was burning a hole in our pocket and we just had to spend it.
Like Monroe.
Would only like West on the cheap, which is highly unlikely.
Pass hard on Afflalo at the numbers floated.
Aminu is interesting.
Yep. Went from being "smart" about free agency this year and next to hey someone, anyone take Dolan's money. What's the plan Phil?
This is my real concern. That we treat FA like the old version of Wheel of Fortune, where the winner of every round had to spend all their winnings on the few pieces of shit that were put on the stage.
We should be focused on acquiring assets smartly. I dont really care if we havent spent our UFA bucks 3 weeks from today. You can make trades now, or go into the season under the cap and be a facilitator in a trade.
Just dont hand out untradable garbage contracts to guys exiting their prime years. That's just stupid. For once dont be the stupid money at the table.
Tell me somethin' good!
As one league official familiar with Ranadive's mindset told Yahoo Sports, "He's trying to find a magic button to push that'll fix everything."
As one league official familiar with Ranadive's mindset told Yahoo Sports, "He's trying to find a magic button to push that'll fix everything."
this is like Larry Brown, Dolan, and Isiah all over again.
Sources: @deandrejordan6 likely to do 4-yr deal, player opt after 3, no matter where he signs. Allows him 2,capitalize on new TV $ n few yrs
For the 100th time, I have the best basketball coaching position in the world. I am not looking for any other coaching position.
if the case to replace plumlee- they have to give the cavs something. should be solid lopez back up on defensive end.
Sasha Kaun is close to signing a contract with the Nets, according to the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union.
Kaun will have to pass the physicals before signing with the Nets.
Kaun retired from European basketball looking for a deal in the NBA.
His NBA rights are owned by the Cavaliers so if he wants to sign with the Nets he has to be traded to Brooklyn first.
"1. TRADE BORIS DIAW WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Diaw is one of the team's most important players, but started to slow down during the regular season. He signed a four-year, $28 million deal in the summer of 2014. The deal declines each season, is partially-guaranteed in Year 3 and fully unguaranteed in Year 4.
Any team with cap space that's looking for a playmaking power forward might give him a look, but the Spurs may have to attach additional draft picks and/or the rights to players the Spurs have stashed overseas to entice teams. They might still do that if it means keeping Splitter. Diaw turns 33 and could see his production nosedive on a different team."
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
2016 $3M guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/16
2017 non-guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 7/15/17
$500k unlikely incentives (meets certain weight requirements throughout the season)
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on Oct. 25
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on the first Tuesday after the All-Star Game
$200,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on April 1
Source: PBT
He needs that or else he will be a disaster.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
2016 $3M guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 6/30/16
2017 non-guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 7/15/17
$500k unlikely incentives (meets certain weight requirements throughout the season)
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on Oct. 25
$150,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on the first Tuesday after the All-Star Game
$200,000 weigh less than or equal to 254 pounds on April 1
Source: PBT
Ah did not know that about 2016 - interesting
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2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
Sounds like Diaw only has 3 million guaranteed if waived after this upcoming season
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2. TRADE TIAGO SPLITTER WHILE TAKING NO SALARY BACK: Splitter has value as one of the league's top defensive centers, but struggled with a calf injury last year. He has two years and just under $17 million left on his deal, which is excellent value if he stays healthy, but that's a big if. He's also turning 31 next season and would become somewhat redundant if the Spurs sign Aldridge.
The issue is that San Antonio must complete this trade quickly to get Aldridge. They do not have the luxury of letting free-agent centers sign and then seeking out the teams that miss on them as trade partners.
I would take Splitter. 50-50 on Diaw - would have to be a good package. Diaw is solid but has 2 years left before a team option in 2017. Don't want to get into another Calderon situation.
Sounds like Diaw only has 3 million guaranteed if waived after this upcoming season
Yea didn't know that when I originally posted that haha