pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
after the GWB scandal. That one really angered me.
After the dust cleared, that was on par with some of HRC's lesser scandals. My biggest issue with him was his "promise" to fix the state pension system only to reduce contributions to it to balance the budget like every other politician.
he's the only one with moderate bonafides and much name recognition. I don't think he has a chance in hell of winning, but if he handles it right he could restore some of his profile nationally and maybe finagle a job if the Republicans take the WH. Also just interested from a political standpoint to see how he handles a primary where he is expected to veer rightward.
Could you imagine Christie trying to work with Congress?
His style is not what this country needs. It may play at the state level where most legislators aint shit, but not with the US Congress. If you thought Obama had bad relations with the legislative branch, just wait for President Christie.
His came and went in 2012. Had he jumped in, he would have won the nomination. Beating Obama might have been a different story, but he would have been a much better candidate than Romney.
if the Democrats weren't in only slightly worse shape. The best candidate is Clinton, whose stock has plummeted in the last 8 years.
It's sad they can't come up with a single viable candidate to run against her.
Also sad that out of 17(?) R candidates, it's hard to find much that's appealing.
I actually like a couple of them and could live with a few more.
At the bottom for me currently are Trump, Christie, Pataki, then I guess Santorum. Then there is another second to bottom tier with Huckabee and Cruz, and on some days Carson. I'm probably blanking on a couple others but I think that there are things to like (and dislike) about the rest.
pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
Dunedin - He's not blunt. He just lies. The issue isn't his bluntness. Blunt would be fine, if he told the truth. He just flat out lied just about every step of the way. And, in my eyes, these aren't typical empty campaign promise lies. He has egregiously lied and cheated the state several ways and times over in very serious fashion.
Who is the bigger liar?
Who is the bigger phony?
Who is the better leader?
Who would win in a debate?
I think:
Who is the bigger liar? Christie
Who is the bigger phony? Christie
Who is the better leader? UNKNOWN
Who would win in a debate? Christie - I think he will bullshit better, which means he will better fool the American public. When Hilary speaks, she will just come across as disingenuous and people will be muttering "bitch" under their breath, whether it is warranted or not.
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pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
Dunedin - He's not blunt. He just lies. The issue isn't his bluntness. Blunt would be fine, if he told the truth. He just flat out lied just about every step of the way. And, in my eyes, these aren't typical empty campaign promise lies. He has egregiously lied and cheated the state several ways and times over in very serious fashion.
Any more than his predecessors? McGreevy handed his boyfriend a six figure sinecure for which he was woefully unqualified. Florio had plenty of whispers.
Who is the bigger liar?
Who is the bigger phony?
Who is the better leader?
Who would win in a debate?
I think:
Who is the bigger liar? Christie
Who is the bigger phony? Christie
Who is the better leader? UNKNOWN
Who would win in a debate? Christie - I think he will bullshit better, which means he will better fool the American public. When Hilary speaks, she will just come across as disingenuous and people will be muttering "bitch" under their breath, whether it is warranted or not.
I don't know Christie's history well enough to say, but if he says one honest thing or one non-self-serving thing, then I think he has a leg up. Geez, what a low bar we have nowadays.
The one good thing about Christie is that you can say he is dishonest and vote for another candidate to be the nominee. You can make the choice and not have it be a sacrifice of your own integrity. I saw a distressing poll last week which said that the majority of Americans (I think it was in the 52-59% range believe that Hillary is dishonest and and untrustworthy. Also by a majority, people will vote for her for President. What does that say about the overlap? Not really about Hillary or the next election, but I honestly believe that we are at a weird crisis point culturally or societally where honesty is no longer considered a virtue (or at least an important one). We are all pretty much "win the game, no matter how you get there".
daily it bothers me that so many, even in the media think its okay to make fun of Christies appearance/weight. To stereotype him as being "a lazy fuck", it just seems totally wrong in this time of hyper political correctness.
I think that says more about her competition than about what people actually think about her or how they will vote. Lesser of all evils is what politics seems to have turned into over the last 2 decades.
that hid a personal email server to bypass government security/record keeping and then deleted tens of thousands of emails, then lied about how she only wanted one phone device when there are pictures of her with multiple devices. How can you even think about voting for this level of dishonesty!
Add the Clinton foundation pay for play schemes, her record as Secretary of State (Russian Reset, Benghazi anyone), she was the biggest cheer leader for the Iraq war and now she complains about what bad shape the country is in when she has been in a leadership position for the past 20 years!!
Via this, of course.
"Mr. Met" for Prez!
It's sad they can't come up with a single viable candidate to run against her.
Also sad that out of 17(?) R candidates, it's hard to find much that's appealing.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
No way. Unfortunate genetics.
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pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
Well said.
After the dust cleared, that was on par with some of HRC's lesser scandals. My biggest issue with him was his "promise" to fix the state pension system only to reduce contributions to it to balance the budget like every other politician.
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if the Democrats weren't in only slightly worse shape. The best candidate is Clinton, whose stock has plummeted in the last 8 years.
It's sad they can't come up with a single viable candidate to run against her.
Also sad that out of 17(?) R candidates, it's hard to find much that's appealing.
I actually like a couple of them and could live with a few more.
At the bottom for me currently are Trump, Christie, Pataki, then I guess Santorum. Then there is another second to bottom tier with Huckabee and Cruz, and on some days Carson. I'm probably blanking on a couple others but I think that there are things to like (and dislike) about the rest.
Who is the bigger phony?
Who is the better leader?
Who would win in a debate?
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300k on food and drinks.
No way. Unfortunate genetics.
No, he's just a stupid, lazy, fat fuck.
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300k on food and drinks.
No way. Unfortunate genetics.
No, he's just a stupid, lazy, fat fuck.
Agreed.
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pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
Why do you think that? (I have no disagreement or hatred for anyone involved, merely curious)
Who is the bigger phony?
Who is the better leader?
Who would win in a debate?
Who is the bigger liar? Christie
Who is the bigger phony? Christie
Who is the better leader? UNKNOWN
Who would win in a debate? Christie - I think he will bullshit better, which means he will better fool the American public. When Hilary speaks, she will just come across as disingenuous and people will be muttering "bitch" under their breath, whether it is warranted or not.
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In comment 12349444 Jints in Carolina said:
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300k on food and drinks.
No way. Unfortunate genetics.
No, he's just a stupid, lazy, fat fuck.
Agreed.
See, I knew you'd come around.
It's from a fat discussion last week.
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pledges truth and mentions he "says what he means and means what he says". Yet, his entire tenure as Governor has been marred by being dishonest, reneging on things that he pledged as absolute, lying, etc.
You can be blunt and still be underhanded. They're not mutually exclusive.
Dunedin - He's not blunt. He just lies. The issue isn't his bluntness. Blunt would be fine, if he told the truth. He just flat out lied just about every step of the way. And, in my eyes, these aren't typical empty campaign promise lies. He has egregiously lied and cheated the state several ways and times over in very serious fashion.
Any more than his predecessors? McGreevy handed his boyfriend a six figure sinecure for which he was woefully unqualified. Florio had plenty of whispers.
Ignorance is no excuse for personal attacks, sonny boy.
BMac was being facetious...
You really aren't getting it, are you? Are you fat, by any chance?
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Who is the bigger liar?
Who is the bigger phony?
Who is the better leader?
Who would win in a debate?
I think:
Who is the bigger liar? Christie
Who is the bigger phony? Christie
Who is the better leader? UNKNOWN
Who would win in a debate? Christie - I think he will bullshit better, which means he will better fool the American public. When Hilary speaks, she will just come across as disingenuous and people will be muttering "bitch" under their breath, whether it is warranted or not.
I don't know Christie's history well enough to say, but if he says one honest thing or one non-self-serving thing, then I think he has a leg up. Geez, what a low bar we have nowadays.
The one good thing about Christie is that you can say he is dishonest and vote for another candidate to be the nominee. You can make the choice and not have it be a sacrifice of your own integrity. I saw a distressing poll last week which said that the majority of Americans (I think it was in the 52-59% range believe that Hillary is dishonest and and untrustworthy. Also by a majority, people will vote for her for President. What does that say about the overlap? Not really about Hillary or the next election, but I honestly believe that we are at a weird crisis point culturally or societally where honesty is no longer considered a virtue (or at least an important one). We are all pretty much "win the game, no matter how you get there".
Add the Clinton foundation pay for play schemes, her record as Secretary of State (Russian Reset, Benghazi anyone), she was the biggest cheer leader for the Iraq war and now she complains about what bad shape the country is in when she has been in a leadership position for the past 20 years!!
And you talk about Christie being dishonest??