NFT: Met's fans would you trade Bartolo Colon?

I'd move him if there was a taker.. but I don't think we're going to get anything of significant value for him. The guy is 42 years old and has an ERA approaching 5. Good chance it would just be a dump more than anything else.

imagine they'd get much. He has an ERA close to 5 (in the NL) and is almost 42 years old. IMO, they should've dealt him at the trade deadline last year.

I think he's a good influence on the young pitchers, so only if we're getting something decent. Doesnt need to be another Sandy special, but I see no reason to just dump the salary.

and it's no knock on him, but he's a FA after the season and I just don't see a fit for him in the rotation in 2016 barring injury.

and he's not a guy you keep around in case of injury.

I'd trade Colon - in contention or not, before the deadline.

Is Colon more desirable than Neise or Dee?
I would think that a contending team would prefer Colon.

Can't trade one of our better hitters.

In comment 12349520 Archer said:

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Is Colon more desirable than Neise or Dee? I would think that a contending team would prefer Colon.

It's like choosing which bagel in the garbage is the most edible.

I'd think Niese would be the most attractive trade chip of the 3 right now but that's not saying much of anything. If there was ever a time where Colon could fetch something useful, it has passed.

at the deadline and I said he should have been dealt then. Re-signing him was also probably not the way to go. He is a serviceable starter this year, but it is appearing that age has finally caught up with him. He went from last year's ace to the #6 guy performance-wise, in a 6 man rotation.

Niese is decent enough and with a manageable contract to fetch something. But, I don't see either of them or Gee getting a pivotal player in return.

colon and cuddyer has been trying to keep the team's spirits up during the 7 game losing streak. There a lot of young guys on the team, they need some veteran presence help stabilize the clubhouse.

In comment 12349591 Matt M. said:

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at the deadline and I said he should have been dealt then. Re-signing him was also probably not the way to go. He is a serviceable starter this year, but it is appearing that age has finally caught up with him. He went from last year's ace to the #6 guy performance-wise, in a 6 man rotation. Niese is decent enough and with a manageable contract to fetch something. But, I don't see either of them or Gee getting a pivotal player in return.

deGrom was much better than Colon last year. He started 9 fewer games but if anyone on this staff was an ace last year, it was deGrom. Not Colon. Honestly, Wheeler was also better than Colon last year.

Gee and Colon should all be available for a solid return. None are part of the 2016 Mets if I'm running things.

been saying it all year.... moreso than Niese.

I could see a contender giving up something useful if they need pitching help. The Mets could use a good utility player. That might be a reasonable return. I would even consider a prospect for Colon. But I would not trade him simply to dump salary. He does provide some leadership for this young staff.

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even for a C level prospect

I'm just thinking thank God Jerry Reese is not the GM of the Mets. This is way beyond his abilities.

In comment 12349591 Matt M. said:

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at the deadline and I said he should have been dealt then. Re-signing him was also probably not the way to go. He is a serviceable starter this year, but it is appearing that age has finally caught up with him. He went from last year's ace to the #6 guy performance-wise, in a 6 man rotation. Niese is decent enough and with a manageable contract to fetch something. But, I don't see either of them or Gee getting a pivotal player in return.

They didn't re-sign him. He had a 2 year deal.

AN ERA near 5, a negative WAR, his 9-5 record is illusory. The Mets will get nothing of value for him, because unlike many fans, MLB front offices don't look at W-L records when evaluating pitchers.

Give him away. At the very least, it opens up a spot for Matz, and they can go back to a 5-man rotation.

If Niese continues to pitch like he has over the past couple of starts, I can see a contender making a move for him. Again, probably not getting a great prospect, but moving him frees up money, and resolves the 6 men for 5 spots situation next year, when Wheeler returns.

Is not coming back until late next season

veteran presence on a very young staff. And he does know how to win games. Niese is a better candidate for a team that needs a # 3, 4 or 5 starter.

In comment 12349592 sshin05 said:

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colon and cuddyer has been trying to keep the team's spirits up during the 7 game losing streak. There a lot of young guys on the team, they need some veteran presence help stabilize the clubhouse.

No, they need talent that can actually square up a baseball. Intangible stuff is horseshit, and Sandy would be the first to tell you that.

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Gee allowed six runs in his first start for Las Vegas and was even worse Tuesday, failing to make it out of the fifth inning while giving up eight runs on 13 hits. Between Triple-A and MLB he’s allowed 43 runs in 49 innings this year

Is this just a mental breakdown or perhaps an undisclosed injury?

In comment 12350770 Victor in CT said:

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veteran presence on a very young staff. And he does know how to win games. Niese is a better candidate for a team that needs a # 3, 4 or 5 starter.

Lol. Name me one starter on the Mets that's ever hung out with Coolon? Starters, not relievers.

In comment 12349892 Johnny Boy said:

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I'm just thinking thank God Jerry Reese is not the GM of the Mets. This is way beyond his abilities.

Oh yeah, b/c Alderson has been so amazing right?

In comment 12350978 Shecky said:

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In comment 12350770 Victor in CT said: Quote: veteran presence on a very young staff. And he does know how to win games. Niese is a better candidate for a team that needs a # 3, 4 or 5 starter. Lol. Name me one starter on the Mets that's ever hung out with Coolon? Starters, not relievers.

They don't have to socialize. It's about the demands of getting through the season, toughing it out without your best stuff, doing enough to just win and not care how it looks.

LOL? Do out really think its about "hanging out"? And how the fuck would you know anyway? Your inference seems to be that because Colon is Hispanic and the other starters aren't that they couldn't learn anything from him. Without a word said, they can learn by his example of professionalism. Always ready, never complains.

Obviously Gee wasn't watching.

In comment 12350978 Shecky said:

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In comment 12350770 Victor in CT said: Quote: veteran presence on a very young staff. And he does know how to win games. Niese is a better candidate for a team that needs a # 3, 4 or 5 starter. Lol. Name me one starter on the Mets that's ever hung out with Coolon? Starters, not relievers.

Prove that one hasn't. The manager himself said to listen to Colon and how he's still pitching for 20 years. Perhaps an interpreter was used but there is no doubt he's still here b/c of his veteran leadership and resume.

$1.9M goes to the big smile!!

$1.19

transactions in sports.

it will pay him the rest of his life. We all know that, but because the team is meh, we all get surprised on July 1. They start winning and nobody talks about it next July 1

Bobby Bo is a smart man.

Not sure how he isnt back for reunions and such

In comment 12351015 Victor in CT said:

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In comment 12350978 Shecky said: Quote: In comment 12350770 Victor in CT said: Quote: veteran presence on a very young staff. And he does know how to win games. Niese is a better candidate for a team that needs a # 3, 4 or 5 starter. Lol. Name me one starter on the Mets that's ever hung out with Coolon? Starters, not relievers. They don't have to socialize. It's about the demands of getting through the season, toughing it out without your best stuff, doing enough to just win and not care how it looks. LOL? Do out really think its about "hanging out"? And how the fuck would you know anyway? Your inference seems to be that because Colon is Hispanic and the other starters aren't that they couldn't learn anything from him. Without a word said, they can learn by his example of professionalism. Always ready, never complains. Obviously Gee wasn't watching.

No Starters:

"All Star"ters