Knicks and Bucks have met with Greg Monroe
Aldridge has met with the Rockets
Ellis talking to the Pacers about 3 for 32
Middleton to remain in Mil 5 for 70
Lopez 3 for 60 with the Nets
Thad Young 4 for 50 with the Nets
Aminu 4 for 30 with Portland
Danny Green to meet with Knicks
A source told Sporting News at the opening of free agency that the Knicks have major interest in Beverley, and that the interest is mutual. The Knicks contacted Beverley shortly after free agency began.
No kidding. The guy they dumped like a bad habit who showed to be fairly useful elsewhere?
RONNY BREWER WTF KNICKS?!!!!
I'm not sure that's how it works.
Robert Randolph retweeted Knicks Memes
Knicks put in calls to Corey brewer,monta Ellis offering 3 year deals
Based on age and need id really like to grab Green/Monroe. I have some concerns that Green looks better playing in SA, but he is a good defensive player and good shooter, those should translate anywhere.
The contracts are about as absurd as i was expecting them to be. We have been hearing (and saying) that the contracts would be absurd and here we are. I mean 7.5 for Aminu? 12.5 for Young? but again i think ive said take what you want to pay a guy and add 3-4 mill to it, and thats about right i guess.
Didnt we have him for about a half a second a couple years ago and released him for nothing?
And I think he went to dallas and hit a game winner or something immediately after. Knicks.
ESPN sources say Portland Trail Blazers and Damian Lillard are nearing agreement on a five-year max extension with in excess of $120 million
To be fair to ellis, the past season appears to show that he's changed a bit from his mindless chucking days.
Robert Randolph retweeted Knicks Memes
Knicks put in calls to Corey brewer,monta Ellis offering 3 year deals
I'm not saying LeBron will be a Knick...but LeBron will be a Knick
Would hope so. They already have 3 PG on the roster.
I think he will be stretch provisioned. Would save 4.5 mil ins space this year and next, and the 3 mil he would count for the years moving forward would be against the much larger cap.
Cleveland is looking for a vet backup PG and have Haywood's non guaranteed contract...
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Cleveland is looking for a vet backup PG and have Haywood's non guaranteed contract...
would be shocked to see them take that $ on given the contracts they will have to dole out this year.
Maybe LeBron wants him as Irving insurance? He can still hit some 3's. Swap the Heyward contract for Calderon!
Wishful thinking, though LeBron does like mediocre players that can drain the open 3 (e.g. Mike Miller)
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is the question. struggling to find an answer in my brain
Cleveland is looking for a vet backup PG and have Haywood's non guaranteed contract...
would be shocked to see them take that $ on given the contracts they will have to dole out this year.
They'll dole out the money if Lebron tells them to.
would be shocked to see them take that $ on given the contracts they will have to dole out this year.
Wasn't there a rumor that they were interested in acquiring Splitter for the Heyward deal? I thought Splitter was making a lot more than Calderon.
Not that GM LeBron cares about the $$.
New York, Indiana, Dallas were interested in Millsap but he will not meet with them. Deciding Btwn offers from ATL & Orl
would be shocked to see them take that $ on given the contracts they will have to dole out this year.
Maybe they want to add more shooters...who knows probably wont happen but that is one option especially for a team already over the salary cap...
it's also why he might want a two year deal with an opt out.
IF the player is in his prime or close to it and/or coming off one good year out of the last two seasons, he's gonna receive a contract that appears to be an over pay. I keep seeing people repeatedly say "I want this guy but only for 8 per" ---forget it...you won't get the player.
So either you "over pay" or you don't get the player. Take your pick. The only bargains you will find in FA are the guys that are a little older or more likely, a little younger and unproven. IF the guy has done anything of note in the NBA he's gonna be overpaid this off-season.
Because when a man offers you $120 million to play basketball, you say yes.
I think Jordan is signing with the Mavs, Parsons has been recruiting him hard...
I think Knicks somehow get rid of Calderon whether it is trade him or stretch him and they sign Monroe and a bunch of role players to surround him and Melo...
Jordan's Max is about 20 million more than Monroe at 4 years (Jordan at 5 years could max out at 43.5 more but he's reportedly not looking for 5)
I think we'll get Monroe, but I'm really not thrilled with that.
The Knicks have held preliminary discussions with free agent vet Willie Green, speaking twice since midnight, league sources tell RealGM.
I think we'll get Monroe, but I'm really not thrilled with that.
Why? At 16 million, he's an absolute steal. I also think his best basketball is ahead of him. He has been playing out of position at PF.
Scott Skiles clashed with him in Milwaukee and was the factor behind him getting traded to Orlando. Now he is in Orlando and is being asked if they should give him the max and it looks like a hard no.
Detroit will give him the max. Does anyone else besides me see SVG is trying to reincarnate his Magic Finals team?
Drummond as Howard
Harris as Lewis
Ilyasova as Turkoglu
Jackson as Nelson
KCP as Lee
If we can get either of them for $10 million or less I'd do it. Stretch Calderon and get O'Quinn at $4 million (as suggested by Zach Lowe).
Monroe is a solid player and he gives you interior scoring and rebounding. He's a legit big. He's well worth the "mini" max deal he's gonna command. It would be money well spent. And just because he isn't Dwight Howard defensively doesn't mean he's a total liability on that end of the court.
With all the talk about Monroe to the Knicks I'm curious what everyone thinks about him Vs Brook. Whose better?
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and one of the SG's. Hopefully its green or mathews (or even wade) and not afflalo.
If we can get either of them for $10 million or less I'd do it. Stretch Calderon and get O'Quinn at $4 million (as suggested by Zach Lowe).
Given the contracts being thrown around, it's hard to believe that any of those guys will get less than 10 million.
With all the talk about Monroe to the Knicks I'm curious what everyone thinks about him Vs Brook. Whose better?
If you take into account their injury histories, than Monroe by a mile.
With all the talk about Monroe to the Knicks I'm curious what everyone thinks about him Vs Brook. Whose better?
Little different types of players. Lopez has a better track record and scoring ability and can space the floor better than Monroe can. Monroe a better rebounder.
Monroe though is more durable, younger, and would make less money giving him a more valuable contract. Would rather sign up for Monroe right now.
All that said, when you take injuries into account, I feel alot safer with Monroe.
lopez is an underrated defender. Hes just never been a willing rebounder until the 2nd half of last year.
Aminu had a really good playoffs and Portland has money to just throw around so I don't think thats a good benchmark.
lazy analysis is good.. and that is what you are doing there.
what D3 league is she playing? fellow D3 hoop alum.
Aminu had a really good playoffs and Portland has money to just throw around so I don't think thats a good benchmark.
He's a name where the cap room may dry up and his market will shrink. I like him on a cheap deal too. I was really talking about the SG trio of Green, Afflalo and Matthews. Those dudes are gonna get paid.
Not saying "better" defender means he is a good defender. Hes not a good on ball defender, but he gets 2 blocks in a game and alters a few shots. Neither Monroe or Lopez will be any good defensively in a fast paced game.
If its true they are heaily pursuing Beverly have to assume they have a deal in place for Calderon and if they dont then that is just stupid to have that much money locked up at PG
I think he'll be better defensively because it's going to be stressed. I don't think much of anything was stressed in Detroit.
I think he'll be better defensively because it's going to be stressed. I don't think much of anything was stressed in Detroit.
Greg Monroe is just so heavy footed as an athlete/person he'll always be limited.. I think he can be solid, but he's never going to completely turn it around. And that's fine.
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with Greg Monroe is his ability to hit a jumper from 15 ft. His skill set outside of that is ideal for the Triangle, but if you're working him in the high post the ability to hit a jumper is key to keep the defense honest.
I think he'll be better defensively because it's going to be stressed. I don't think much of anything was stressed in Detroit.
Greg Monroe is just so heavy footed as an athlete/person he'll always be limited.. I think he can be solid, but he's never going to completely turn it around. And that's fine.
Just defend your position well... he has a big body. Use it.
We are at about 28.5 million and that's not including utilizing the stretch provision on Calderon which would free up approx another 4 million. Secondly, reports form this morning state the cap # may be 2million higher than originally projected.
That could put us at right about 34.5 million. Seems pie in the sky perhaps, but would there be enough left for an LMA or Jordan?
Maybe he likes the Southeast?
In a rapidly rising cap environment, if you're paying $15m per year for 15 and 10 on 50% shooting and 70+% from the stripe, you're doing just fine. These may be unsexy numbers for a second option on offense, but he's only the second option in year 1 (and perhaps not even then), if things go well....
He's a good athlete. He moves comfortably in his body, which is no where near a given with guys of his size. Very coordinated. Those traits have made him a force on the offensive end and on the boards. It could also help him on the defensive end with the right help.
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RT @Chris_Broussard Sources: Danny Green has agreed to a 4 year, $45 million deal with the Spurs
Yeah same here, I thought he was from Louisiana and checked to make sure he was. Born, raised and attended college there. I know Orlando is exciting and I am happy for them if he goes there, but it kinda stinks seeing Atlanta just hit 60 wins and still isn't an attractive spot for even their own guys. You wonder what else Atlanta can do. At least they are well coached and I am sure they'll find one way or another to hit 50 wins again this year. I think they'll end up taking on David Lee and whatever pick GS gives them.
the Orlando offer is the only one that's been reported so far and there's only so many teams with max cap room, especially once LMA and Jordan decide. If there's another team willing to go 4/80 for him it would be somewhat surprising.
Another underrated aspect of his game is playing the passing lanes. 1.2 steals per game doesn't do it enough justice, but he does have good hands and great BB IQ.
In a rapidly rising cap environment, if you're paying $15m per year for 15 and 10 on 50% shooting and 70+% from the stripe, you're doing just fine. These may be unsexy numbers for a second option on offense, but he's only the second option in year 1 (and perhaps not even then), if things go well....
I think that was me. All his rate statistics (both offense and defense) are better at the 5. Even his block rate, although he's still not good enough to qualify as a rim protector. You can look it up on 82games.com.
Not exactly a bold statement. He averaged 16 and 10 this season. You're basically saying he can score one more basket a game.
But yeah, now SA has to move Splitter and maybe even Diaw. I'd rather have Splitter; I wouldn't mind absorbing his contract. If we could stretch Calderon, we'd have $6-7 mil to work with.
I hope Green in SA means LA in LA, since the Lakers are maybe the biggest competition for Monroe.
If we stretch Calderon and the cap is 2 mill more, it may not be impossible to sign both (at least in theory).
Melo,Monroe and Jordan/LMA would be a team that could make some serious noise in the East.
More than any other NBA city, the beauty of Orlando is in the eye of he beholder.
How are the school systems there?
More than any other NBA city, the beauty of Orlando is in the eye of he beholder.
The no state income tax is a big draw for any Florida team, but you're right. Unless you're a player with kids the allure of Orlando is kind of nil.
I really think he'll break out with ~33 mpg at C.
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Splitter trade tells me LMA to SA more likely. Makes Monroe to Knicks less likely. Makes Carroll to Knicks more likely. I think that's it.
11:51am - 1 Jul 15
I know Dan's in on O'Quinn, lets start sending petitions to MSG!
Spurs are walking into the LaMarcus Aldridge meeting right now, armed with Danny Green, cap space and frontrunner status on luring Aldridge.
Splitter trade tells me LMA to SA more likely. Makes Monroe to Knicks less likely. Makes Carroll to Knicks more likely. I think that's it.
11:51am - 1 Jul 15
Why does it make monroe to knicks less likely? Don't get that connection. Because Portland wants him now?
11:52am - 1 Jul 15
I like Carroll a lot, but it would be scary to pay big money to a late bloomer kinda guy.
Splitter trade tells me LMA to SA more likely. Makes Monroe to Knicks less likely. Makes Carroll to Knicks more likely. I think that's it.
11:51am - 1 Jul 15
Maybe he thinks the Lakers have the inside track on Monroe after missing out (potentially) on Aldridge?
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That's true too
More than any other NBA city, the beauty of Orlando is in the eye of he beholder.
The no state income tax is a big draw for any Florida team, but you're right. Unless you're a player with kids the allure of Orlando is kind of nil.
Eric, that's not what I was meaning to convey. I was saying it's interesting how mixed their free agent history has been, there's really no parallel to them. They are the organization who hasn't been able to retain the 2 best players they've ever had, yet they've also attracted guys like TMAC and Grant Hill who were both mega free agents at the time. Almost nabbed Duncan too.
Splitter trade tells me LMA to SA more likely. Makes Monroe to Knicks less likely. Makes Carroll to Knicks more likely. I think that's it.
11:51am - 1 Jul 15
I think this means Carroll is going back to Atlanta now.
My read on Hawks taking Splitter ($8.5m) into cap room is bye-bye DeMarre Carroll.
Id rather carroll then Afflalo. I dont really know why, but i would, ha.
Splitter trade tells me LMA to SA more likely. Makes Monroe to Knicks less likely. Makes Carroll to Knicks more likely. I think that's it.
11:51am - 1 Jul 15
Schmeelk sucks?
Can't see the LA fit. Monroe and Randle? Jeez thats going to be bad on defense.
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That's true too
More than any other NBA city, the beauty of Orlando is in the eye of he beholder.
The no state income tax is a big draw for any Florida team, but you're right. Unless you're a player with kids the allure of Orlando is kind of nil.
Eric, that's not what I was meaning to convey. I was saying it's interesting how mixed their free agent history has been, there's really no parallel to them. They are the organization who hasn't been able to retain the 2 best players they've ever had, yet they've also attracted guys like TMAC and Grant Hill who were both mega free agents at the time. Almost nabbed Duncan too.
That's true. I could understand Shaq leaving, but I never understood Howard leaving. I still don't get that one.
My read on Hawks taking Splitter ($8.5m) into cap room is bye-bye DeMarre Carroll.
Id rather carroll then Afflalo. I dont really know why, but i would, ha.
Can't they give Carroll more than any other team and go over the cap to keep him? I don't see how this impacts that.
That being said... I don't want him at that inflated price.
If Knicks can get DeMarre Carroll and Monroe it's not a bad haul for Phil. Told Carroll would hold meetings in Atlanta.
Lakers didn't make strong impression in Aldridge meeting, sources say. Spurs can close on him. LMA expected to make decision fairly soon.
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If Knicks can get DeMarre Carroll and Monroe it's not a bad haul for Phil. Told Carroll would hold meetings in Atlanta.
When theres $40 million on the line, thats an "investment" level signing.
And could someone please explain how a Randle/Monroe frontcourt with Russell, old Kobe, and nick young would win more than 30 games? That would have to be the worst defensive team bar none next year.
I just thought the same thing...
Hawks lose DeMarre Carroll to the Toronto Raptors, I'm told, on a four-year, $60-Million deal. DeMarre himself announced via Twitter.
So even as prepared as i was for absurd deals im still finding them absurd. So is afflalo at 12 a good deal now????
DeMarre Carroll is now the highest paid player on an NBA team.
@royceyoung
The Rockets, Pelicans and Knicks have interest in unrestricted free agent Kendrick Perkins, according to a source.
And Houston.
Damn, we could get shut out on any real difference-makers.
So im thinking we have two scenarios for the Knicks:
1- Knicks pay market value for Monroe and Afflalo - Media says "Desperate knicks overpay as usual in quick fix attempt"
2 - Knicks stay smart and dont overpay and maybe sign smaller pieces - Media says "Knicks strike out, nobody wants to play for them"
Damn, we could get shut out on any real difference-makers.
I don't see the connection at all. Perkins is a vet minimum guy. The Knicks arent signing him to do anything but be a bench guy who rarely plays
Good teammate, I guess.
Man, Danny Green looks like such a bargain in real time.
Perkins is the kind of guy you need sitting on the end of your bench in a suit. He is absolutely awful.
Or maybe Phil reacted how most of us would when he saw DC being valued at 15 a year.
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Like we weren't even in the final 3 for Carroll. Maybe our interest was overstated?
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Or maybe Phil reacted how most of us would when he saw DC being valued at 15 a year.
Raptors offer reportedly "blew away" the other 2 finalists
A player would have to be really soft to consider "media pressure" among the reasons to choose a team.
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Like we weren't even in the final 3 for Carroll. Maybe our interest was overstated?
Or maybe Phil reacted how most of us would when he saw DC being valued at 15 a year.
That gif is hysterical!
So im thinking we have two scenarios for the Knicks:
1- Knicks pay market value for Monroe and Afflalo - Media says "Desperate knicks overpay as usual in quick fix attempt"
2 - Knicks stay smart and dont overpay and maybe sign smaller pieces - Media says "Knicks strike out, nobody wants to play for them"
I think if it's 1, then the media would mostly be ok with it. If it's 2, it's a legit criticism of building via FA.
it's either him or Wear.
I think even the stats support that assertion lol
A player would have to be really soft to consider "media pressure" among the reasons to choose a team.
And yet some say that one reason guys stick around in San Antonio is that the media stays the hell away from them. Then you see OKC, where Durant and Westbrook's mistrust of the media may cause the collapse of that team.
It's really easy for posters on a message board to say stuff like the media shouldnt matter. Or that professionals shouldnt need to be motivated etc. But it's just not how most humans function.
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A player would have to be really soft to consider "media pressure" among the reasons to choose a team.
And yet some say that one reason guys stick around in San Antonio is that the media stays the hell away from them. Then you see OKC, where Durant and Westbrook's mistrust of the media may cause the collapse of that team.
It's really easy for posters on a message board to say stuff like the media shouldnt matter. Or that professionals shouldnt need to be motivated etc. But it's just not how most humans function.
Guys stick around San Antonio because they WIN. If OKC had actually won anything, there would be very little talk about going anywhere. If the Knicks had the Splash Bros. in addition to plenty of cap space, no one would care about how mean Frank Isola will be to them.
real estate is expensive
the team isn't great
the weather is awful
whats not to like?
real estate is expensive
the team isn't great
the weather is awful
whats not to like?
So weather must be the big draw then because you also just described L.A.
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taxes suck
real estate is expensive
the team isn't great
the weather is awful
whats not to like?
So weather must be the big draw then because you also just described L.A.
that might be the right answer!
and people are less angry I guess
And maybe there's something to the softness of your generation... ;-)
Half the time these guys are in warm penthouses, doing some kind of marketing, working out in the gym... enough already about the damn weather.
Half the time these guys are in warm penthouses, doing some kind of marketing, working out in the gym... enough already about the damn weather.
Why doesn't my gym look like this?
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IT'S SNOW PEOPLE! IT MELTS!
Half the time these guys are in warm penthouses, doing some kind of marketing, working out in the gym... enough already about the damn weather.
Why doesn't my gym look like this?
because you're not a wealthy NBA player?
It's not the be all end all, but it does matter a little bit to players if they have to deal with harsh weather or not. There are obviously other more important factors starting with money.
Who was the last big free agent to sign with Chicago or Indiana? Pau Gasol?
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hasn't hurt Chicago or Indiana's prospects of free agents.
Who was the last big free agent to sign with Chicago or Indiana? Pau Gasol?
Yeah, I have no idea where you're going with this. And none of us even said the weather was the main factor, but that it's just another thing added into the whole equation. Not to mention those teams have been a lot better than us over the past several years.
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hasn't hurt Chicago or Indiana's prospects of free agents.
Who was the last big free agent to sign with Chicago or Indiana? Pau Gasol?
Who was the last big free agent either of those teams tried to pursue? Melo in Chicago? David West signed in Indy after having a 19 PPG season in NO.
Just because those two aren't shitty organizations that don't need to go out and sign free agents every year doesn't mean players don't want to play there. Ellis looks like he is headed to Indy this year.
Exactly! We aren't NETS fans over here!
Man, Danny Green looks like such a bargain in real time.
Agree on getting one good solid guy and make a major splash next free agency. Would hate to over spend for a guy like afflalo
Twitter says he and Grizz owner are meeting in Barcelona to discuss contract today.
This has been rumored for a while, I like what I see from him. His game seems a lot more suited for the NBA than most Euro guards, he's NBA fast and is a good shooter. I have no idea what his defense is like though, you read mixed reviews online and the quality of NBA guards is so much better than what they have in Europe.
Free agent Dwyane Wade and Miami are progressing in talks on a likely multi-year deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Free agent Dwyane Wade and Miami are progressing in talks on a likely multi-year deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
According to Evan Roberts, the Lakers brought Adam Levine to dinner with them and pitched the glitz and glamor of playing in LA.
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What happened... Mitch Kupchak showed up in a wheelchair?
According to Evan Roberts, the Lakers brought Adam Levine to dinner with them and pitched the glitz and glamor of playing in LA.
They did the same thing with Melo last year, showing him in movies and Lala getting movie deals...
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What happened... Mitch Kupchak showed up in a wheelchair?
According to Evan Roberts, the Lakers brought Adam Levine to dinner with them and pitched the glitz and glamor of playing in LA.
LOL I hope that's true. I think the charms of Adam Levine would go lost on LMA (among many others).
SIGN HIM! This is the kind of move that makes sense! Defensive presence at a bargain basement price!
Of course you had to.
"And I also think he needs people around him that have that killer instinct, because then that brings it out of you," Vandeweghe said. "And with him taking such a high salary, I think that kind of handcuffs the Knicks in being able to get those types of players that are getting big contracts. There's no way around that."
"And I also think he needs people around him that have that killer instinct, because then that brings it out of you," Vandeweghe said. "And with him taking such a high salary, I think that kind of handcuffs the Knicks in being able to get those types of players that are getting big contracts. There's no way around that."
I'm probably embarrassing myself here, but who the fuck is Vandeweghe?
His niece
He was the guy I wanted over THjr I remember when we were discussing the 2013 draft.
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"I just feel that Carmelo, he is a bit soft," Vandeweghe said, after her second-round, 7-6 (5), 6-4 victory over Karolina Pliskova. "And now this is just my own personal opinion. I think he is soft. I don't think he has a killer instinct in his eyes, at least this last year.
"And I also think he needs people around him that have that killer instinct, because then that brings it out of you," Vandeweghe said. "And with him taking such a high salary, I think that kind of handcuffs the Knicks in being able to get those types of players that are getting big contracts. There's no way around that."
I'm probably embarrassing myself here, but who the fuck is Vandeweghe?
Just googled her, didn't know she was related to Kiki. Interesting. Still don't give a fuck what she thinks about basketball.
Good one Torrag... You done being a miserable little shit?
epic disappointment so far-- he did play well with the sixers at the end of last year. falls into the "cheap upside" category.
Aldridge seems like a lock to Spurs
Jordan seems like a lock to Dallas or stay with Clippers...
Monroe who once seemed like a lock doesnt seem like a lock anymore...
Whatever happened to Ashanti?
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Somehow I think the lead singer of Maroon fucking 5 isn't going to be a major pull for an NBA star. Just my gut feeling.
Of course you had to.
Why would I know what the name of the lead singer of Maroon 5 is? If I threw Mark Sandman's name out at you, would it mean anything? Unlikely, but to me he's a giant. Different things are relevent to different people.
Aldridge seems like a lock to Spurs
Jordan seems like a lock to Dallas or stay with Clippers...
Monroe who once seemed like a lock doesnt seem like a lock anymore...
I think Knicks nab Monroe, which is more than enough for me. I just hope we don't pay Afflalo 12 a year.
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Why would I know what the name of the lead singer of Maroon 5 is? If I threw Mark Sandman's name out at you, would it mean anything? Unlikely, but to me he's a giant. Different things are relevent to different people.
Yeah, gonna go on the assumption the LMA probably is much more aware of who Adam Levine is over Mark Sandman...
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Somehow I think the lead singer of Maroon fucking 5 isn't going to be a major pull for an NBA star. Just my gut feeling.
Of course you had to.
Why would I know what the name of the lead singer of Maroon 5 is? If I threw Mark Sandman's name out at you, would it mean anything? Unlikely, but to me he's a giant. Different things are relevent to different people.
You were getting ribbed (gently) for not knowing Adam Levine, who, most people 40 or younger know, whereas Mark Sandman would remain irrelevant for most people whatever their age group. This, of course, isn't a statement on their relative quality.
Based on the fact that none of your comments came with lightheartedness I don't think we are the ones that are sensitive...
And while I agree that LMA is more likely to know who Adam Levine is, I doubt he gives two shits about the guy.
Sorry but that sounds painful
Oh! My God, this is terrible. Could somebody please find Ja Rule? Get hold of this motherfucker, so I can make sense of all this. Where is Ja? Help me Ja Rule!
Yeah i'd hope so. Both played about the same amount, O'quinn is a bit younger but only by a few years.
Or every acne medication commercial ever made.
Because things aren't "goink" too well for Phil thus far.
The same way a black church burning thread turned into a referendum on Hillary Clinton's ability to tell the truth...
THAT'S BBI!!!!!
How can you even verify this? (Not you in particular Dan)
I mean I just hate counterfactual reporting...
I highly doubt that, probably Carrol's agent telling him that
Not sure that I would believe that. The most popular narrative going around is that the Knicks are going to spend wildly because nobody wants to go there. The problem is I haven't seen any information coming from credible sources.
My brilliant uncle had a word for this... BULLSHIT.
Dwyane Wade and Heat are talking and "some progress" being made on a new deal but it's not there yet
hahaha Carl every comment you write is pure gold lol
Yes.
Gets me every time.
Denver has swap rights to that pick. Although it's not impossible both NY and Denver end up in the high lottery.
*I got this one Carl*
Not shocking coming from a NETS fan! Ha!
I mean, it's Windhorst, so take it with a few trucks of rock salt.
herring also said Knicks were all in on Winslow...
ESPN sources tell @WindhorstESPN & I that Cavs and Tristan Thompson are nearing agreement on deal that will pay the RFA in excess of $80 mil
Yea I think they must have a deal in place to shed some salary if they want to get Matthews. Maybe sign and trade?
I mean to be fair hes like 26 right?
Marc Stein retweeted The Players' Tribune
Love AND Thompson staying in Cleveland
Wrote an article in player's tribune
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going to afford Matthews and Carroll? who are they getting rid of?
Yea I think they must have a deal in place to shed some salary if they want to get Matthews. Maybe sign and trade?
They've been trying to get rid of Derozan for a while now. Maybe someone is drawing interest? Lakers would be a perfect spot for him as he went to USC.
Kevin Love will accept a five-year, $110 million contract extension with the Cavs according to sources
Damn that is a lot of money locked up between Thompson and Love...
Orlando Magic will not match a Tobias Harris Max offer sheet, league sources tell yahoo sports
Kevin Love will accept a five-year, $110 million contract extension with the Cavs according to sources
Damn that is a lot of money locked up between Thompson and Love...
ha I had literally just got a text LOVE!!!!!!!!! from my boy when I texted him "whats up in cavs land"
He is resigning
Orlando Magic will not match a Tobias Harris Max offer sheet, league sources tell yahoo sports
nvm fake
MoM please dont respond to this, I think we've went back and forth too much on this already.
Have been told the #Magic will not match a max offer to Tobias Harris, so the market value has been set.
Have been told the #Magic will not match a max offer to Tobias Harris, so the market value has been set.
The NBAPA is going to be in fits about this if Harris ends up not getting a max offer because of it.
Cavs have numerous options to move Brendan Haywood's $10.5M nonguaranteed contract now on the table, sources said. Dan Gilbert spending $
Yes, not a great fit with Melo and Porz but what is his max? 60/4? At these prices, that's a great deal.
As a max player? Yikes
In another world, yes. In this world where we have Melo, no.
He doesn't offer what we need, other than talent.
I like him in a vacuum but I don't think he makes sense considering the rest of the roster, especially Melo
Phoenix has agreed to a five-year, $70 million extension with guard Brandon Knight, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
yes. Even if he's a poor fit he's easily tradeable at his max.
Phoenix has agreed to a five-year, $70 million extension with guard Brandon Knight, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Very good deal IMO.
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Maybe as a fallback if Monroe doesn't happen?
yes. Even if he's a poor fit he's easily tradeable at his max.
Interesting way to look at it, but the poor fit could take a toll on his stats which would affect his trade value.
Phoenix has agreed to a five-year, $70 million extension with guard Brandon Knight, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
we gotta hope Jerian Grant is a legit starter. Slim pickings out there for PGs.
worth the risk IMO. Between him and Monroe guys that young are hardly ever available to sign.
Only one you can make an argument maybe is Matthews and Carroll but they're getting a ton of money and would rather have Monroe at 15 a year than one of those 2 at 15 per.
Guys like LMA and Gasol were never coming here and what can you do about Green wanting to resign in SA.
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Interesting way to look at it, but the poor fit could take a toll on his stats which would affect his trade value.
worth the risk IMO. Between him and Monroe guys that young are hardly ever available to sign.
I think Monroe is just in a whole other class than Tobias Harris to be honest. I like Harris, but I think Monroe could be special. So I'm not a fan of lumping those two together. But it's definitely a well calculated risk.
As far as Jerian Grant, I'm basically just force feeding myself that he's our starting PG for the next several years. I got to watching some of the DraftExpress scouting videos of him since I watched practically no college ball this year, and I'm impressed. Great size for a PG. Reminds me of Jrue Holliday, who's a great PG when healthy.
If we could sign Monroe and Harris to matching 60/4 deals (stretch Calderon?) we would win the day. Those are two guys who are going to get under market deals because of the max rule. In the NBA you need value, and you get that with max guys and bargain bin guys.
That's generally the case for Knicks fans.
We're maybe 8 hours away from people starting to rip Phil Jackson yet again for somehow not mind controlling players to sign here.
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is so angry about the team so far. A lot of criticism from bloggers and reporters.
That's generally the case for Knicks fans.
We're maybe 8 hours away from people starting to rip Phil Jackson yet again for somehow not mind controlling players to sign here.
Same fans who are ripping Phil for not doing anything yet are the same ones who would be ripping him for giving Carroll 15 million
Is this free agency or Oprah? You get a max, you get a max, you get a max, you get 50mil, you get 70mil! Yessir get paid fellas!
Is this free agency or Oprah? You get a max, you get a max, you get a max, you get 50mil, you get 70mil! Yessir get paid fellas!
I like Grant even more now.
If we could sign Monroe and Harris to matching 60/4 deals (stretch Calderon?) we would win the day. Those are two guys who are going to get under market deals because of the max rule. In the NBA you need value, and you get that with max guys and bargain bin guys.
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Sources: Spurs made a powerful presentation to Aldridge by keeping it simple today. They did nothing to change belief they're frontrunners.
Uggh - I just want enough to get to .500, be a playoff team and no longer be an embarrassing franchise. Low expectations.
Amir Johnson has received interest from New York, Boston, Dallas, Toronto, Indiana, Lakers and San Antonio, source told ESPN.
Would be a good fit next to Monroe at PF
The #Knicks have expressed interest in K.J. McDaniels, a restricted FA, league sources say. Houston would have the chance to match any offer
Tyson Chandler has agreed to a deal with the Suns, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Yea I think just Knicks' fans cynicism (which is completely fair). None of these guys the Knicks lot were as strongly rumored as Monroe to the Knicks so it's a little different.
Obviously lots can happen but it's literally been half a day. He needs to at least meet with all of the teams.
Tyson Chandler has agreed to a deal with the Suns, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Tyson Chandler has agreed to a deal with the Suns, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Kinda figured the Mavs would do more to keep him, as badly as they wanted him back. So are they close to DeAndre Jordan?
Tyson Chandler has agreed to a deal with the Suns, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Big blow to LAC if true and they lose DJ
The Suns are bringing Tyson Chandler into the meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge as part of their pitch, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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The Suns are bringing Tyson Chandler into the meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge as part of their pitch, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
The Suns are bringing Tyson Chandler into the meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge as part of their pitch, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
They'd have to trade Bledsoe and dump salary to make that work.
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Yahoo Sources: Draymond Green and the Warriors have broken off contract talks.
Maybe the warriors work out a sign and trade with Green so he can go to the team he wants
Unless he didnt want to go to the Clippers? which would be surprising since he is close with CP3
Suns fitting Chandler into cap room means they will have to renounce Brandan Wright, who becomes a major Dallas fall-back option.
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Yahoo Sources: Draymond Green and the Warriors have broken off contract talks.
Maybe the warriors work out a sign and trade with Green so he can go to the team he wants
Ultimately doesn't mean anything. He's gonna stay a warrior whether he wants it or not.
Personally... I Just don't think Harris is that good and I don't wanna pay him like he is.
ESPN sources say Tyson Chandler has agreed to a four-year deal with the Phoenix suns worth $52 million
ESPN sources say Tyson Chandler has agreed to a four-year deal with the Phoenix suns worth $52 million
that's almost exactly what he got from us 4 years ago. Rising cap or no, this guy is 33 before next season. I'm skeptical on this for the Suns.
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Sources say that the New York Knicks have reached out to Jeremy Lin. This lines up with my report from Sunday.
Is that a major gamble? How many players don't make improvements during that age range? I feel 24 is usually the year the "prime" starts for most players. He's improved the 3 pointer every single year. He strong and athletic enough to become at least a mediocre defender.
Again, not arguing on Harris, just about the principle. If there is feeling that he can be a 20 and 7 stretch 4 but they don't wanna do it cuz of Melo, it's counter productive.
And the Chandler deal is essentially 3 years. $12 million will be a decent expiring contract 3 years from now.
Free agent forward Amir Johnson has agreed to a deal with the Boston Celtics, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
except he's not a leader.
Source close to LaMarcus Aldridge's situation said he will not be returning to Portland. Spurs, Lakers, Mavs and Rockets are front-runners.
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better at 25 than he is at 22.
Is that a major gamble? How many players don't make improvements during that age range? I feel 24 is usually the year the "prime" starts for most players. He's improved the 3 pointer every single year. He strong and athletic enough to become at least a mediocre defender.
Again, not arguing on Harris, just about the principle. If there is feeling that he can be a 20 and 7 stretch 4 but they don't wanna do it cuz of Melo, it's counter productive.
And the Chandler deal is essentially 3 years. $12 million will be a decent expiring contract 3 years from now.
Well, you don't usually gamble when handing out max contracts. It's reasonable to expect he gets better. It may just not be reasonable to pay him like he already is better.
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for vet leadership as much as performance- they are a young team.
except he's not a leader.
that is just not a factual statement-
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Lin could be a good Triangle fit, but does he want to be in New York? Last time around, his family didn't want it.
Not sure why he'd come back now.
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Sources say that the New York Knicks have reached out to Jeremy Lin. This lines up with my report from Sunday.
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Sources say that the New York Knicks have reached out to Jeremy Lin. This lines up with my report from Sunday.
Holy 5 minutes ago, Batman!
Look, didn't say irrational. Just not a fan of giving him the Max. Gotta make sure Monroe isn't coming before you look at that. But hey, Amir for 12 makes 15 for Harris a lot less crazy.
What is life? I'm getting sick from these contracts. Why didn't I practice basketball more...
1st solid value signing of the day.
you may want to re-evaluate your definition of leadership. Or your ability to recognize it.
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you may want to re-evaluate your definition of leadership. Or your ability to recognize it.
or you could take off your knicks glasses... and realize that is the reason teams are happy to have him... the fact that his last year with the knicks didn't go well is actually a sign of leadership... shows his disgust with the clown show he was playing with.
It's a "who cares" situation for me. Knicks don't have their pick next year. We have absolutely not use in being bad next year. None. If Monroe wants to make us better next year and take some pressure off KP, then god bless.
Well, they'd have the inside track on keeping him, or if not. the cap flexibility to at least put themselves in a Durant meeting.
I really don't mind having Monroe for 2 years.
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that is just not a factual statement-
you may want to re-evaluate your definition of leadership. Or your ability to recognize it.
or you could take off your knicks glasses... and realize that is the reason teams are happy to have him... the fact that his last year with the knicks didn't go well is actually a sign of leadership... shows his disgust with the clown show he was playing with.
So someone not giving normal effort despite being paid 14 million dollars is leadership?
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that is just not a factual statement-
you may want to re-evaluate your definition of leadership. Or your ability to recognize it.
or you could take off your knicks glasses... and realize that is the reason teams are happy to have him... the fact that his last year with the knicks didn't go well is actually a sign of leadership... shows his disgust with the clown show he was playing with.
Only you would portray someone dogging it when things get rough as a sign of leadership. Where do you come up with this crap?
It's overdue, frankly. the cap has been really suppressing player movement for years.
pointless discussion on a knicks thread--- there is a reason dallas won with him... CP3 wanted him back from his hornets days... and the knicks were relevant when he was healthy and leading their defense...
one year on the knicks doesn't change my view on him as a player for his career.... if you choose to do so... great for you...
If you mean Ryan Ruocco, he's been guessing portland since I listened at 12pm. I don't know that he actually knows anything. He's just been saying that Portland is a good fit for him.
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#Knicks have planned to meet with FA center Robin Lopez in Los Angeles while in town to meet with LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources say.
Either the Mavs or Clips are screwed, I love it.
or you could take off your knicks glasses... and realize that is the reason teams are happy to have him... the fact that his last year with the knicks didn't go well is actually a sign of leadership... shows his disgust with the clown show he was playing with. [/quote]
That's like saying that Derek Rose showed exceptional leadership by not coming back for either the 2013 or 14 post season as well
I think it's a safe bet that Chandler has some sort of hidden ailment that the media doesn't know about, he was sick so often his last year in NY and that could have something to do with how lazy and anemic he looked on D in NY his final season.
one year on the knicks doesn't change my view on him as a player for his career.... if you choose to do so... great for you...
in other words, you're choosing to overlook those times in his career that disprove your argument? Congrats for exposing yourself as willfully ignorant. I would expect nothing less from the author of "Denver won that game"!
I think it's a safe bet that Chandler has some sort of hidden ailment that the media doesn't know about, he was sick so often his last year in NY and that could have something to do with how lazy and anemic he looked on D in NY his final season.
Nah... he cryptically spoke all season about how much he disliked playing for Woodson. Threw him under the bus a few times. His moves were calculated. Knew exactly what he was doing.
nah, it's just a big coincidence two of the best years of his career were contract years.
if enzo didn't stalk me on bball threads we wouldn't have to argue over a comment... "phoenix is signing him partly to add veteran leadership to a young team"-- oh the rage!!!
lol so true. Don't gotta worry about him no more for whatever reason.
pointless discussion on a knicks thread--- there is a reason dallas won with him... CP3 wanted him back from his hornets days... and the knicks were relevant when he was healthy and leading their defense...
one year on the knicks doesn't change my view on him as a player for his career.... if you choose to do so... great for you... [/quote]
It might not change your view on him, but as a Nets fan you don't have the same prism we do. We saw how he stopped challenging players in the paint. We saw him openly challenge Mike Woodson's defensive principles in the media. We saw him give less and less effort if things weren't going his way. We remember how he got dominated by Roy Hibbert in the playoffs and then blamed everything under the sun for it.
He's an excellent player when he's healthy and everything is going great. When things start going wrong the real Tyson Chandler comes out...
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Knicks fans need to be patient. The market will settle. Just because you have $27m doesn't mean you need to spend it all at once.
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Nah... he cryptically spoke all season about how much he disliked playing for Woodson. Threw him under the bus a few times. His moves were calculated. Knew exactly what he was doing.
nah, it's just a big coincidence two of the best years of his career were contract years.
His DPOY year was a contract year? Stop being foolish.
That's a solid play. Upgrade over Beverly for sure.
#Knicks have been in touch with forward Lance Thomas about a new deal, per sources. Spurs and Nets have also expressed interest in Thomas.
Settle down. Did I start a campaign for him? No, was asking a simple question. Stop being foolish.
hate the amir Johnson contract-
Has it? Or are the Knicks not frantic to "get with the flow" and see if that's more of pressured decisions than a full trend. Not saying not to expect crazy deals. But when Carroll is get $15 million and Danny green is getting $10 there's a clear difference in valuation for different teams. Or it could be Danny green took a hometown discount. We will find out soon.
"i dont understand why philly....." then fill in the blank.
If Monroe falls through he should be a close next target.
Boxing fans spend a lot for very little.
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When we swing and miss on our first 10 FA targets.
Settle down. Did I start a campaign for him? No, was asking a simple question. Stop being foolish.
Rarely do I even look who I'm responding to unless I recognize the poster. Nothing personal. It was more directed at Jae Crowder getting love this early in FA than you.
I bet Adam Levine was the fucking tits though.
LaMarcus Aldridge will not be joining the Lakers, The Times has learned. They were a 50-50 choice but he disliked bball part of presentation
ha, not good when a basketball player dislikes the basketball part of your pitch.
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OUT on LA per the LA Times, he didn't like their basketball portion of the presentation.
I bet Adam Levine was the fucking tits though.
LMA would only be swayed by sance with Jerry Garcia.
Unless he wants to hook up with an Eastern Conference team so he doesn't have to fight his way through the west to reach the finals.
Rockets in the runner-up seat to the Spurs now. Still a longshot but feeling better.
I think it was for real.
I really wanted Love, Aldridge or Jordan to go to the Lakers. I just have this bad feeling that they'll miss out on everyone and Monroe will be their sloppy 4ths.
So far, the Spurs most impressed Aldridge, with Houston close behind Waiting on Suns word. Aldridge met with Blazers often, fond of Olshey.
He liked Houston's presentation better when it came to actual on-court projections.
LMA reportedly "didn't quite get answers from Kobe we was seeking."
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Is it a lock for the Spurs. I cant imagine he goes to PHX despite what people are saying. Knicks might as well cancel their meeting, there is no way that he would choose us over SA, if he did i would seriously question his mental state, ha.
Unless he wants to hook up with an Eastern Conference team so he doesn't have to fight his way through the west to reach the finals.
Or he has questions about how long Tim Duncan is going to play before retiring...
Evan Roberts on WFAN said they did. I'm sure he got the info from Twitter.
LaMarcus Aldridge will not be joining the Lakers, The Times has learned. They were a 50-50 choice but he disliked bball part of presentation
ha, not good when a basketball player dislikes the basketball part of your pitch.
They were never a 50-50 choice no matter what the times was trying to sell on that.
Then the Rockets
Waiting on Suns
I wonder how well guys like Bird, Isiah, and Jordan would have done as recruiters if they had that role back in the day. Bird was notorious for being private and a lot of people felt Isiah was a bit of a fake. While Jordan was close friends with other superstars, his reputation as an intolerant of mistakes hard ass would make LeBron seem like Mother Teresa in comparison
I like the Rockets current roster now. Got 2 young PFs that can give you range and defense. Howard's got 3 more solid years in him as I see it. Capela could potentially fill in the defensive void to an extent. They have assets they can use to upgrade at PG. Denver is going to get less and less for Lawson the more they hold on to him.
I hate that there is no Monroe news. I think he has to be really nice to all these teams because he's looking to be on the market in a year or two. Cant leave a bad impression anywhere.
It is nice to see LA not getting whatever they want. I fucking hate that franchise.
Maybe it's me, but I'd keep Dwight away from recruiting. He seems intolerable.
Didnt the whole porn industry move to Arizona b/c of the LA condom ordinance. Just sayin...
I like the Rockets current roster now. Got 2 young PFs that can give you range and defense. Howard's got 3 more solid years in him as I see it. Capela could potentially fill in the defensive void to an extent. They have assets they can use to upgrade at PG. Denver is going to get less and less for Lawson the more they hold on to him.
I honestly don't know if it's a good move or not. It's not a slam dunk in my mind that Aldridge is the way to go, you bring up good points.
But the Rockets would still be able to keep Capela and D-Mo if they sign LMA, which would still give them two great young frontcourt assets. They really wouldn't be "gutting" the team, there would still be solid role playing talent around them.
Melo makes $23mil per (give or take). Give Melo and LeBron their wet dream, make that trade!
Knicks get Thompson and Mosgov to go with the 19 yr old kid, the PG from ND...and they still have $26mil in cap space to play with.
A nice young nucleus to build a triangle offense and a strong rebounding, shot blocking defense.
Melo makes $23mil per (give or take). Give Melo and LeBron their wet dream, make that trade!
Knicks get Thompson and Mosgov to go with the 19 yr old kid, the PG from ND...and they still have $26mil in cap space to play with.
A nice young nucleus to build a triangle offense and a strong rebounding, shot blocking defense.
Lol I'm no Melo fan but that's unconscionable.
-SA has a better roster than LA. Even without Duncan they still have Parker, Leonard, Green, etc. That's just safer than Randle, Kobe, Russell, Clarkson, etc who could be good but don't have a track record
-SA has a better coach in Pop. Even if he's only around for like 3 more years, that would be most of Aldridge's contract. Scott may be fired this year.
-No income tax in Texas. California has one of the highest rates.
-Lamarcus Aldridge is from Texas (granted from Dallas)
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And that's not even including the whole Kobe issue
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Kobe spoke for about three minutes in the presentation, said he envisioned LaMarcus Aldridge working with him the same way Pau Gasol did.
Isiah Thomas having control of a sports team?
Melo makes $23mil per (give or take). Give Melo and LeBron their wet dream, make that trade!
Knicks get Thompson and Mosgov to go with the 19 yr old kid, the PG from ND...and they still have $26mil in cap space to play with.
A nice young nucleus to build a triangle offense and a strong rebounding, shot blocking defense.
Not sure if srs
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Kobe spoke for about three minutes in the presentation, said he envisioned LaMarcus Aldridge working with him the same way Pau Gasol did.
"So Lamarcus -- it's Lamarcus, right? -- Im gonna yell at you a lot, in public and for no reason, whenever I go cold as ice. And lets get this out of the way -- I will NEVER say a kind word to you. Cool?"
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Kobe spoke for about three minutes in the presentation, said he envisioned LaMarcus Aldridge working with him the same way Pau Gasol did.
Bahahaha washed up star on his last legs tells better player in his prime that he would appreciate a second banana.
Melo makes $23mil per (give or take). Give Melo and LeBron their wet dream, make that trade!
Knicks get Thompson and Mosgov to go with the 19 yr old kid, the PG from ND...and they still have $26mil in cap space to play with.
A nice young nucleus to build a triangle offense and a strong rebounding, shot blocking defense.
They need to start young and athletic to play in this system. Melo is on the back 9 with a backache of an attitude.
I don't mind them having to develop a scorer or two, their cap is just going to grow and with this trade they will have players to grow into the system, and they can add great scoring in 2016 FA.
They need to start young and athletic to play in this system. Melo is on the back 9 with a backache of an attitude.
I don't mind them having to develop a scorer or two, their cap is just going to grow and with this trade they will have players to grow into the system, and they can add great scoring in 2016 FA.
Oh yeah? Who's coming in 2016 to that team you've put together?
They need to start young and athletic to play in this system. Melo is on the back 9 with a backache of an attitude.
I don't mind them having to develop a scorer or two, their cap is just going to grow and with this trade they will have players to grow into the system, and they can add great scoring in 2016 FA.
they won't be done with the roster after that trade.
Melo will NEVER be successful here, it's time we all come to terms with that.
LOL! That's okay, I'm used to being scorned for my opinions around here. That's what makes the world go round.
Hammer away!
Jeff Withey is a guy I still might take a flier on low-cost. Older than you think, but can block some shots and move ok.
#Knicks have reached out to their former SG Landry Fields. Interesting story for Landry as he's practicing shooting lefty this offseason.
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#Knicks have reached out to their former SG Landry Fields. Interesting story for Landry as he's practicing shooting lefty this offseason.
I can't even begin where to start. From Tristan Thompson now being the highest paid role player in history, to the fact that Lebron ordered that contract for TT, to the fact that Mozgov is less than 2 years younger than Melo to the fact that he is also expiring at the end of this season.
Which angle should we choose to pursue this one from?
Yes, massive value at 23 million. If he will accept a trade.
It warms my heart.
Steve Popper retweeted Marc Berman
Aside to this insanity: Saw Allan Houston working with Fields on his shot once. Allan, shooting lefty, was better.
Didnt Thompson do that?
definitely. What's even more ridiculous are those in the media who killed him for not taking a below market deal in Dallas or Chicago. He'd basically be making what Kris Middleton got.
He certainly does, and many teams will have enough cap space when they are left in the dust with the FAs they couldn't land. Keep him for essentially 2 years to recruit young players and trade him for assets when he least suspects it.
Yeah because the Lakers would do that...
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Yeah because the Lakers would do that...
He was being sarcastic obviously.
LOL, the very next comment...
Second---the above post from a few minutes ago...I thought that was a long cat for a second...
Knowing you for as long as I do? Yes. LOL
Dallas and New Orleans are among the teams that have discussed deals w/forward Richard Jefferson, per source. RJ looking for 1-2 year deal.
And lakers were offering Russell or randle who would everyone want
And lakers were offering Russell or randle who would everyone want
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Better prospect too, even before the Randle injury.
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The number of teams interested in Rockets RFA KJ McDaniels has increased to 12. No offer sheet presented as yet.
Ever think they met for 4.5 hours because Cuban and his crew know what they're doing?
Its hard to think of a player that started off as well as he did that hit his ceiling at age 22 because of injuries.
Not this?
He hasn't crossed anyone off but he's already met with the Mavs twice...
And lakers were offering Russell or randle who would everyone want
How is that a serious question? Would we rather have a 7th pick in the draft coming off a missed season due to a broken leg or the 2nd pick in the draft?
Ash I have concerns with Harris and Melo as well but assuming Marc Gasol isn't happening I see LA, Aldridge, Monroe and Harris as the best remaining FA. If we don't land ANY... not good.
Why? He's 22 years old. In any event, as a 22 year old he's a 17 point, 6.3 reb, .466/.364/.788 guy. That's pretty fucking valuable as is.
Sources: Kings, Knicks, Wizards, Dallas and Pacers are registering interest in Derrick Williams
Sources: Kings, Knicks, Wizards, Dallas and Pacers are registering interest in Derrick Williams
Jesus this is looking bad.
Wade has nobody to blame but himself. he walked away from a guaranteed $44 million or so. Nobody forced him to.
This can't be real life, can it?
The guy who played exactly 14 minutes in the NBA in his career is better right now and a known quantity?
He shot 36.4% on volume last year. How good does he need to be?
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Jesus this is looking bad.
What in the hell are you talking about?
Gasol ideally would be perfect but he looks like a sure fire lock to go back to grizz
Aldridge-great scorer, but high volume shooter ok defense questionable if we cant get a defensive center
Deandre jordan- great defense great rebounding, no real offense, questionable for him to be the number 2 on your team
Monroe-solid post game, great rebounder ,not a rim protector. average d cant hit a jumper
Basically who fits best to help knicks contend in the east
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he can become a better 3 pt shooter. I also don't think he has the mobility to play the 3, which makes future fit with KP questionable.
He shot 36.4% on volume last year. How good does he need to be?
Probably not much better for 16 million a year in this new financial climate. The fit questions remain.
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Randle is the better player right now and he's a known quantity.
This can't be real life, can it?
The guy who played exactly 14 minutes in the NBA in his career is better right now and a known quantity?
You forgot the part where he broke his leg so bad he needed surgery and missed 81 games (so far).
Gasol ideally would be perfect but he looks like a sure fire lock to go back to grizz
Aldridge-great scorer, but high volume shooter ok defense questionable if we cant get a defensive center
Deandre jordan- great defense great rebounding, no real offense, questionable for him to be the number 2 on your team
Monroe-solid post game, great rebounder ,not a rim protector. average d cant hit a jumper
Basically who fits best to help knicks contend in the east
If the Knicks don't land any of them it's because the players didn't want to come here... NOT because the Knicks found them to be flawed. That's the thing with the cap.. the Knicks and other teams are offering the same exact loot to this max players. Aldridge, Jordan, Gasol, Monroe will get max money if they want it.
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This can't be real life, can it?
The guy who played exactly 14 minutes in the NBA in his career is better right now and a known quantity?
You forgot the part where he broke his leg so bad he needed surgery and missed 81 games (so far).
I was trying to be kind, but holy crap that post by Torrag was one of the dumbest things I've ever read on BBI.
Originally scheduled to meet with LaMarcus Aldridge tomorrow, the Mavs are making their pitch today, league source says.
The thing is "room" is a non-existent term for the next 2 years for 95% of nba teams. We have to pull away with SOMETHING
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he can become a better 3 pt shooter. I also don't think he has the mobility to play the 3, which makes future fit with KP questionable.
He shot 36.4% on volume last year. How good does he need to be?
Probably not much better for 16 million a year in this new financial climate. The fit questions remain.
For 16 million I take that gamble every day. I think people are overly concerned with fit right now. I'd just grab underpriced assets, which Harris is without any improvement. And if he improves -- which I expect he will -- watch out.
AND HE WANTS TO BE HERE!
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Don't overpay to be a .500 team and lose all flexibility. Keep room something will pop. We are in this long term!
The thing is "room" is a non-existent term for the next 2 years for 95% of nba teams. We have to pull away with SOMETHING
+10. If they don't come away with Tobias Harris at minimum it was bad.
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On the surface all of the marqee guys seem like they would be good gets but all have some questions to there fit and what they bring
Gasol ideally would be perfect but he looks like a sure fire lock to go back to grizz
Aldridge-great scorer, but high volume shooter ok defense questionable if we cant get a defensive center
Deandre jordan- great defense great rebounding, no real offense, questionable for him to be the number 2 on your team
Monroe-solid post game, great rebounder ,not a rim protector. average d cant hit a jumper
Basically who fits best to help knicks contend in the east
If the Knicks don't land any of them it's because the players didn't want to come here... NOT because the Knicks found them to be flawed. That's the thing with the cap.. the Knicks and other teams are offering the same exact loot to this max players. Aldridge, Jordan, Gasol, Monroe will get max money if they want it.
I know that i meant more or less if knicks can get any one of
Aldrige jordan oor monroe, who exactly is the best for us
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he can become a better 3 pt shooter. I also don't think he has the mobility to play the 3, which makes future fit with KP questionable.
He shot 36.4% on volume last year. How good does he need to be?
Probably not much better for 16 million a year in this new financial climate. The fit questions remain.
For 16 million I take that gamble every day. I think people are overly concerned with fit right now. I'd just grab underpriced assets, which Harris is without any improvement. And if he improves -- which I expect he will -- watch out.
AND HE WANTS TO BE HERE!
That's a fair argument. Even if he doesn't improve or does so marginally he'll be worth the contract.
Who were you thinking of?
Well not saying we give Biyombo a max contract, but there's gotta be 2 assets on this roster that wasn't on it yesterday.
If Calderon is a UFA in this market, doesnt he get 15 for 2 years?
I never thought Gasol was leaving Memphis; I assumed Aldridge was going to LA or Texas, and the same for Jordan. Monroe is a nice player and could help the team, but he isn't a franchise player that is a must get.
Unfortunately, I don't see much promise in the 2016 class. I don't think there's any way Durant comes here, Conley is the only guy in the class I'd like, but I imagine as one of the few attractive pieces in the class, there will be a lot of teams in play for him.
I refuse to co-sign this. I called Dalembert dog shit from jump street because he was dog shit. Fuck boys on here were calling him a Tyson-lite.
Doesnt next year's FA class suck beyond Durant?
Doesnt next year's FA class suck beyond Durant?
Kobe
Joe Johnson
Eric Gordon
Roy Hibbert
Durant
Conley Jr.
Batum
Brad Beal
Damien Lillard as of now unless my list is out of date.
I think as a backup he can be ok and similar to Prigs worst case scenario (better at offense worse at defense).
If people like Beverely are fetching around 7-10 million a year, Calderon would definitely get around 5-7.
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Doesnt next year's FA class suck beyond Durant?
Kobe
Joe Johnson
Eric Gordon
Roy Hibbert
Durant
Conley Jr.
Batum
Brad Beal
Damien Lillard as of now unless my list is out of date.
I thin Lillard's about to sign a long term extension. If he's gone, then that's a sad list.
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Doesnt next year's FA class suck beyond Durant?
Kobe
Joe Johnson
Eric Gordon
Roy Hibbert
Durant
Conley Jr.
Batum
Brad Beal
Damien Lillard as of now unless my list is out of date.
Not bad but Kobe and Hibbert seemed shot while Beal is a restricted FA and I'm sure DC will match. Johnson and Gordon are intriguing at the right price.
Conley Jr. would be amazing but I think he'd resign.
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This wasn't taken out of context. It was the entire post. I believe they were serious and it was not an ill fated attempt at humor.
BBI the gift that keeps on giving.
I'm trying not to be pessimistic, but I just think the Knicks are screwed from raiding their cupboard for so many years with horrible decisions and then assuming that they could just quickly rebuild because it's NY.
The NBA now has so much exposure, that being in NYC doesn't have the gravitational pull that it may have once had. Stars seem more than happy to go to other cities with great fanbases and great organizations. At this point, NY merely has high taxes, an unforgiving media, an unproven coach, and a bare roster with limited future draft picks.
Maybe the move was to sign a bunch of the young midlevel players this season to long-term deals, just to establish a culture of competent basketball play and competent organizational stewardship so that we can start being an attractive destination in 2018 and beyond.
This is why they had to swing for the fences in a guy like Porzingis.
How? Because no one took their money? I don't agree. The FAs would be nice and we do need a lot of talent but if the Knicks only signed a few stop gaps while not mortgaging their future things could be a lot worse. And if guys like KP and grant develop next season this offseason would be deemed a resounding success.
Relax. Don't panic. Greg Monroe is a nice player. I want him to sign here too but he's not going to derail the rebuilding process one way or the other.
How can you (Dan) be critical of the GM simply because no one wanted to take his money?
Yes TC was arguable a special situation, but for a decade+ we've been dumping guys at the absolute bottom of their value. We need a little patience.
Only FA move I'm a bit disappointing so far was not getting Splitter.
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This wasn't taken out of context. It was the entire post. I believe they were serious and it was not an ill fated attempt at humor.
BBI the gift that keeps on giving.
Can you just tell me who you were thinking of instead of Randle? It's actually rattling my cranium.
Sorry by FA move I mean any move (trade or signing) during the FA period - knew Splitter was traded.
Just annoyed that he was traded to Atlanta as opposed to us as they didn't send anything back asides from absorbing his salary.
Seems like it may be a long slog to get to a reasonable place. Sins of the past. F Dolan.
I think the guy that people would want to play with from the draft would be Russell. Moreso than Towns. But lets remember that when GM LeBron got his hands on Wiggins, he shipped him out right quick. Generally these vets dont give a shit about any rookie.
Now looks like Koufos is out.
Splitter gives them the guy who can guard the BIG guys in the league. Horford is excellent but undersized as a Center. Splitter/Horford/Millsap is such a wonderful frontcourt. 3 guys who are all better than their stats.
The problem with this Knicks organization (Fuck Dolan), is that we want players who care about winning. But if a player wants to win, then there's no reason to come to NY. So the players that the Knicks do end up getting will be all about the money or all about NYC.
Tough situation.
Andre Miller, Rod Strickland, Terry Porter, Sam Cassell, Avery Johnson
Lol, yeah ok. Aldridge just wants one last stroke to his happy ending he's been getting from teams as he's never experienced this and will never experience this again. Kind of like Melo last year.
Jerian Grant: 6'7.5" wingspan -- 8'4" standing reach -- 198 lbs
Hardaway Jr: 6'7" wingspan -- 8'5" standing reach -- 199 lbs
Jerian Grant: 6'7.5" wingspan -- 8'4" standing reach -- 198 lbs
Hardaway Jr: 6'7" wingspan -- 8'5" standing reach -- 199 lbs
Do you mean that in a good way or bad way?
Tim looks every bit the NBA shooting guard. He is exactly the kind of draft pick that fans love on draft night because he looks like he should be a good player. And then you find out that he doesn't really do a whole lot.
Grant seems to actually be a basketball player.
Sources: LaMarcus Aldridge is very likely to strike a deal with the San Antonio Spurs.
That's not me being a pessimist either, I think the Knicks have a really good shot at getting Monroe.
Osi, I think it's impressive that a guy with legitimate PG skills has the size of a prototypical SG.
That's making me worry even more that we are going to lose him.
I dont know what your point is anymore. You said essentially that only transcendent PGs are good after at age 33 and later. That's not true. Yes PGs often decline around this age. As for Calderon last year, he was hurt.
But guarantee whatever you want. There is no accountability on the internet anyway.
A specific meeting yet to take place? Or is every team viewing him as the 3rd domino behind LMA and Jordan, and he agrees/complies?
Forgive me, haven't been very well tuned in today...
You still win dumb comment of the day.
It's stupid, fan talk, I'm fully aware. But he can be a footnote in San Antonio, or be a legend in NY. It's not enough to sway him, but I wish it was.
A specific meeting yet to take place? Or is every team viewing him as the 3rd domino behind LMA and Jordan, and he agrees/complies?
Forgive me, haven't been very well tuned in today...
Monroe had multiple team meetings scheduled. He's not done yet.
Everybody says he's a committed defense, and he has the functional size to be good at it. I thought the actual lone concern about Grant was that he was a pass first, pass second, shoot 3rd PG.
Can he shoot well enough to be an NBA 2?
Even if we had no shot at him, it's kind of demoralizing, even if it's true.
You sound upset, you should go back to that thread where you get to fondle tight nutsacks or whatever you were ranting about.
A specific meeting yet to take place? Or is every team viewing him as the 3rd domino behind LMA and Jordan, and he agrees/complies?
Forgive me, haven't been very well tuned in today...
Unknown. He had 4 teams on his initial list -- NY, LAL, POR, MIL. May meet with more. Things are probably complicated by the fact that he may seek a 1+1, 2+1, or 3+1 deal. So he may be weighing 1+1 in NY vs 2+1 in NY 2+1 in LA (etc.). Then factor in the fact that he probably wants to see what other moves these teams are lining up. Does he want to sign in LA if they sign a pure center (Robin Lopez)? Needs to learn the plan for the team (if any) and meet the coach etc.
Even if we had no shot at him, it's kind of demoralizing, even if it's true.
That wasn't my angle (I really didn't have one) but needless to say I can agree with the hope.
God dammit. We argued Adam Levine and now we are pointing out grammar issues. Can this stop? Or can something happen with the Knicks already?
After the "insults" you've thrown at me, I'll need a little more than a tissue.
Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
Torrags performance on this thread and that contract merit the same response
I can't believe how awful of a contract that is.
Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
Lmao.
Not about the fit it's about the talent.
Thanx Indy for giving me a chance...Thanx for the support over the last 4 years...Luv is Luv....
Deron Williams? Fuck no. Once a dog always a dog.
with even decent injury luck they're a lock for the finals. They're already stacked, and they still haven't even traded Haywood for a useful player.
And I hate the idea that a team is a lock for the finals. It seems that way, but it so often doesnt prove out.
Yahoo Sources: Two small market teams have made significant inroads in the pursuit of free agent Greg Monroe: Milwaukee and Portland.
And I hate the idea that a team is a lock for the finals. It seems that way, but it so often doesnt prove out.
Go bet on it. 1 to 2 odds for the Cavs to come out the east. If you're right, you can make a lot by taking the field.
Sources: Suns have legitimately closed the gap in pursuit of LaMarcus Aldridge. Tyson Chandler, perimeter talent. They're a real factor.
It's probably unfair, but if we lose Monroe to MIL then we can just retire any notion that the modern NBA player considers N.Y. to be a mecca or good place to play.
@ghassemnba
Anyone know this guy?
And I hate the idea that a team is a lock for the finals. It seems that way, but it so often doesnt prove out.
He's not leaving. And disagree a million percent on losing in the finals twice there being some failure. The thinking behind things like his never hold up to a second of actual thought. Just making the finals this year with the team he made it with, and then giving the eventual world champions the toughest series they had on their way to a title while playing with crap (tougher than any series they got in the west) was an amazing accomplishment. The whole losing in the finals being worse than not getting there is the dumbest thing ever, like literally. The. Dumbest. Thing. Ever.
If the Cavs don't win a title next year they'd be disappointed. But the notion that it's some epic failure and would lead Lebron to bolt is silly.
@ghassemnba
Anyone know this guy?
He has 11 followers do not see it...
@ghassemnba
Anyone know this guy?
he's got 11 follows on twitter, so he's gotta be legit.
He is not sure because he is guessing based on previous rumors...
He sees the tweet David West made and now is assuming he is signing somehwere so he in turn makes a tweet saying he is signing with the Knicks...
If he gets it right he can say see i have sources gets it wrong he will say team jumped in last minute...
Same shit Incarcerated Bob does...he guesses based on rumors and hopes he is right..
Maybe. He'll get savaged either way. It's purely hypothetical. But I think the rings are going to be very important to him, specifically getting closer to Kobe and MJ. I also think there is a chance that team takes a bad, bad turn. I dont like Shump or TT. Love and Irving have very selfish streaks.
I just hate seeing his face on TV
This is not his situation in Cleveland at present time, unless they are wholly decimated by injury as they were last postseason. This is his strongest and deepest cast ever. It's not easy to just to shopping for a decisively better situation, not to mention he probably loves the power they allow him to wield, which likely isn't something he can find elsewhere
Lastly using the Bills as some dirty word is just a notion I fundamentally disagree with. Next, he already has 2 titles in the bank and a window that is still open. If they lost in the finals for a 3rd straight time and casual fans/idiots want to beat on him for it despite the fact that the previous two teams (14 Miami, 15 Cavs) get nowhere near the finals without him, then they are as I described them. Let's just bash him for overachieving and taking flawed/injured casts to the finals
I'd love to hear the tale about how he convinced Jared Jeffries to come to the big apple when he had dozens of other teams begging to sign him.
Hearing Bucks pitch to free agent Greg Monroe impressed the 25-year-old center. Bucks selling coach Kidd, new owners, young talent.
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The one and only argument for Kobe's career over Lebron was longevity, but as Lebron keeps piling MVP-ish years on top of each other and Kobe was essentially done being an impact player 2 years ago, that argument is now no longer even applicable.
"If we had Isiah, we would've signed LeBron"
@bkravitz: Basically West opted out because he didn't feel the Pacers could compete for a title this year or in the near future. Wants to win now.
@bkravitz: West said the rumors about him going to the Knicks are ridiculous; he wants to be with a contender; the Knicks don't qualify.
@bkravitz: Not the reason he left, but West was very annoyed at the way the Pacers, specifically Bird, took shots at Hibbert during post-season presser
I bet we end up with Afflalo at like 3/30.
@bkravitz: West said the rumors about him going to the Knicks are ridiculous; he wants to be with a contender; the Knicks don't qualify.
awesome cause that is a player I didnt want anyway
The length of this thread is overwhelming...in a good way!
Please and thank you
He's going to be a steal for someone at the right price
http://www.msg.com/teams/knicks.html?vid=2670931753 - ( New Window )
Whatever. Im sorry I hypothetically cast aspersion on the object of your obsession.
@ramonashelburne: It's one thing to be told no. But not good form to embarrass an organization. That's what's happening here
LMAO she's ripping Aldridge for embarrassing the Lakers because of the reports that he wasn't impressed by them.
As a Rockets fan I realized what an annoying homer she was during the Dwight sweepstakes, and everything she's done since then has just validated my feelings on her.
Windhorst is a joke, comes off as a LeBron stalker. But Ramona is easily more annoying and a homer of epic proportions.
Team sport. Individual player. Oddly an incredibly hard thing for some to grasp. Just like losing in the finals is worse than not getting there, because then you have the Coodies like the Buffalo Bills. Lebron just happens to find himself on the other end of some stupid arguments.
@ramonashelburne: It's one thing to be told no. But not good form to embarrass an organization. That's what's happening here
I agree with this. It's very unprofessional.
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@ramonashelburne: It's one thing to be told no. But not good form to embarrass an organization. That's what's happening here
I agree with this. It's very unprofessional.
reminds me of when Windhorst was tweeting stuff like "LeBron has changed. I don't recognize him anymore" or something ridiculous like that during 2010. It's like the exact opposite of all the Knick writers.
Team sport. Individual player. Oddly an incredibly hard thing for some to grasp. Just like losing in the finals is worse than not getting there, because then you have the Coodies like the Buffalo Bills. Lebron just happens to find himself on the other end of some stupid arguments.
You're a really tiresome troll. Just pretend like I dont exist. My posts are for other people.
Al-Hassan seems to be among the few there that speak common sense. Idk if you consider Ryen Russillo part of the "NBA crew", but he doesn't spit out what the typical opinion is and backs up everything he says with facts.
I dunno any backstory. I just know that LMA could have just as easily released info that he's down to Team X and Y. Instead it was put out there that LA's pitch was focused too much on foofy LA shit. I think it was meant to embarass the team, and he comes off as a tacky (or is getting fucked by sources).
I also think the whole presentation thing is a bit ridiculous. Does he need them to explain who Kobe is, or make up something about Russell and Randle? I mean he's in their fucking division for gods' sake. You cant win with some of these players. You talk all basketball and then they dont know if it's a good city to raise kids. Or you have guys like LeBron and Cano and Amare etc. who plainly have a lot more interest in businessy stuff.
I was thinking that, too. I've been hoping the Knicks raid as much talent as they can from Portland. Lot of pieces there that would fit perfectly here.
Well I mistakenly said they were in the same division, so it wouldnt be the first time I was wrong.
Aldridge apparently is going to cut his choices down to 3 teams (Spurs, Suns?, Rockets?) and meet with those 2 teams again. Come on dude, only LeBron gets to do that because he's LeBron.
The Lakers are the Supermodel who has no idea how to take the answer "no" from a guy they want. When they hear "no", they tell all their girlfriends that the guy has herpes.
Chandler and Tucker are solid defensive players. Get the Morris twins to switch off at the 3. Can even go small with Markieff at the 5, its given them success. Booker, Warren, Morris and Len off the bench. Not a terrible deal.
Chandler and Tucker are solid defensive players. Get the Morris twins to switch off at the 3. Can even go small with Markieff at the 5, its given them success. Booker, Warren, Morris and Len off the bench. Not a terrible deal.
I'd sooner trade off the Morris twins and/or Len to make room. TC, LMA, Bledsoe, Knight as the core.
Phil and Mills both said they would use back channels to see if players were really interested or if they were just using New York and would not waste their time...
Just a thought
I know Knick fans are freaking out but some guys who signed elsewhere Phil wasn't getting anyway...and some of the others you don't want.
The Warriors have agreed to terms on a five-year, $85 million deal with their free agent forward Draymond Green, a source told Yahoo.
Yes, but the fact of the matter is you can maxing out Aldridge, Jordan, and Monroe. You can probably win maxing you own guys over the cap, ala the Cavs. Can you win paying $15 million per for a 3 and D player? Because that's what's going on. I get that there is inflation, but did you see anyone winning by paying $8 million for those guys last year? That cap didnt double (even next year it wont fully double vs. 2014-15).
Get for Philly there is Stauskus.
Agreed.. Better to be smart than trying to make a splash..
it could be worse.
Imagine if Shump's shot off a rebound falling out of bounds at the buzzer in Game 1 had fallen.
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Get for Philly there is Stauskus.
AND a protected first rounder AND the right to swap first rounders in two drafts.
Fuck. Philly is going to be absolutely sick. Imagine if they draft Ben Simmons next year.
D'Alessandro left the Kings for a front-office job with the Denver Nuggets two weeks ago. Around the draft, several front-office executives and player agents expressed frustration about dealing with Divac on instances involving the trading and drafting of players. Divac is largely unfamiliar with the collective bargaining and salary-cap rules, causing him to struggle with grasping the machinations of negotiating and completing deals.
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Today's Daily News has an article on FA Day #1 & in it talks to Melo at a Red Bulls game in NJ. "We haven't heard anything yet on the Knicks.I'm waiting for my phone to go off right now so I can hear some good news, but it's a waiting game.You see guys are signing up early right now and I think this free agency will be done in a short time" So why is he in NJ when other superstar(s) are completely involved in the recruiting process? Does Phil think he'd be a deterrent?
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Get for Philly there is Stauskus.
AND a protected first rounder AND the right to swap first rounders in two drafts.
Fuck. Philly is going to be absolutely sick. Imagine if they draft Ben Simmons next year.
If you're scoring at home the Sixers have the following assets of value:
Embiid, Okafor (star potential)
Noel (all-star potential)
Stauskas, Saric (harder to project)
Covington, Hollis Thompson (cheap & signed for years)
Sixteen draft picks in the next four drafts, including eight 1st rounders and two "pick-swaps" (which increase the lottery odds)
Whether you agree with the premise of tanking or otherwise, the Sixers have are not half-assing this rebuild
He's a 21 year old that was picked 8th in last year's draft..I'd say he at least has a chance to lead a productive career.