NFT: NHL Free Agency Thread

especially if you need to add some scoring. Seems it's abundant with goalies and D.

who are the big names?

Tarasenko (RFA)? then who?

Mike Green?

Nazem Kadri?

Antoine Vermette?

awful.

Someone will do something desperate.

But will probably come in way too pricey.

I'd like the Rangers to make Semin an offer.

Big, physical guys who can score a bit are in demand.

I'd absolutely offer Semin a contract, but only a cheap one - under $2mill, I'd say.

ward... But his price is gonna have to drop which prob won't happen Bc we can't afford him

like 35 years old?

I'm less interested in retread 15 G/30 or 40 P guys if I can avoid it, I'd think everyone has them as their plan B.

I don't know exactly how RFA works in hockey but I'd be strong after Tarasenko.

but Garth locked up Ders yesterday for 4 years, $15 million, backloaded. After getting benched in the playoffs it looks like Lee is destined to be JT's left wing this year.

After the QO is made, the player either accepts it and signs a one year contract, or can reject it and hope for an offer sheet. If he gets an offer sheet, his current team has one week to match. There are no negotiations, it's just match or not.

In comment 12350348 Greg from LI said:

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After the QO is made, the player either accepts it and signs a one year contract, or can reject it and hope for an offer sheet. If he gets an offer sheet, his current team has one week to match. There are no negotiations, it's just match or not.

No-brainer then, if he didn't accept the QO, Tarasenko would be a Canadien (or at least have an offer to become one) if I were GM. And then I'd trade Plekanec.

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doesn't seem to realize the guy won't have 25 yr old legs.

The cap situation is disturbing to say the least. Kreider and Hayes for next year is scary.

Some players have arbitration rights as RFA's, some don't. That also comes into play.

worth pursuing. All you'll get is a depth guy at a frontline player price.

Stay away Glennie. Stay away.

that interest me in FA - maybe Mike Green, but he's going to get waaayyy overpaid.

I'd rather have Oduya than Girardi, but that's neither here nor there

They're cap strapped without a trade to move out salary.

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Good god, time flies.

wants semin. Bahahahahaha

In comment 12350359 Greg from LI said:

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Agreed, and it would cost a shit ton to get him.

IMO. 23 year old, on the verge of stardom.

free up movement of RFAs. Back in the day, a team that signed an RFA had to provide compensation that was deemed "of equal value". Teams could negotiate a mutally-agreed upon compensation package of picks and/or players, and an arbitrator would make a ruling if they didn't agree. That's what happened with the Blues and Devils in 1990 when St Louis signed Shanahan and then lost Stevens as compensation. It was such a steep price to pay that it scared teams off from offering RFAs.

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so we can send Strait packing.

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free up movement of RFAs. Back in the day, a team that signed an RFA had to provide compensation that was deemed "of equal value".

Another historic Slats flop when he received Troy Mallette as comp for Adam Graves.

EDM looking into D; Sekera, Franson & Green on the target list, among others.

BOS, DET may take a run at Mike Green

LAK and a few others looking into Greiss. PHI supposedly showing "solid" interest in Neuvirth.

Blues will "100% match" any offer sheet Tarasenko may sign.

Anisimov extension with the Hawks. 5 yrs. $22.75 mil total.

6-8 teams "chasing" Belesky. 5-7 year deal is expected.

8 teams in on Ward, 6 East (incl WAS), 2 West

the there are no big names in free agency this year the blue collar guys are out there.
Also under the radar was the Oilers trading for Gryba. Adding him with Reinhart along with MacDavid, Hall and the rest proves to be a great team in the making. Especially if Reinhart becomes very good. Throw in Talbot as well and the Oilers are back.
Anyway back to my point, guys like Gryba are out there.

would be a really strange choice for Boston.

signing that guy around $5 per after being unwilling to go $6-7m for Dougie would be incredibly stupid.

is nuts. He's not worth half that.

But at the time, it seemed pretty even. Graves was two years older than Mallette but actually had scored less in his career to that point. Mallette had made the Rangers as a 19 y/o and put up 12 and 13 goal seasons, and he was much bigger and more of a fighter than Graves (an important consideration in the NHL of 1991). Mallette had 25 NHL goals in 150 games to his name going into his age 21 season at the time of the deal. Graves was 23 and had 23 goals in 217 games.

Their careers obviously went in dramatically different directions after the deal, but at the time it didn't seem like such a steal. BTW, in a odd coincidence both players were picked at the exact same spot in the draft - first pick in the second round, Graves in '86 and Mallette in '88.

In comment 12350489 bigbluehoya said:

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would be a really strange choice for Boston. signing that guy around $5 per after being unwilling to go $6-7m for Dougie would be incredibly stupid.

Some said that Hamilton was only looking for 5.5 from BOS which would make it even more ridiculous.

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is nuts. He's not worth half that.

He's worth half that easy. But he's not worth $4.55 million on a cap crunched team, and more importantly, it really ill suited to center a 2nd line as Chicago intends.

Holy Head Scratcher.

I liked the return for Chicago a lot better before I saw that Artie contract.

strange, especially considering Saad is an RFA.

May have been able to get one more year of Saad at that number. Even if you were afraid of an offer sheet, an offer sheet that high would return a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if I'm not mistaken.

His leaving Boston didnt make a ton of sense. I thought he must have been looking for 6.5+ to get sent out of town for a return like that.

throwing a bunch of national guys twitter pages up and also including Arthur fucking Staple

But not at that salary, and not as a 2C.

I'd throw out a reliable Rangers twitter reference, but I don't think Incarcerated Bob counts! ;-) (You're welcome for the thread, you ungrateful fuck!)

Ramo likely to resign in CGY. Ribiero back to NSH for 2 yrs, $3.5 per.

Offer Sheet primer from generalfanager.com:

Offer Sheets are contracts that can be offered to a Restricted Free Agent (RFA) by a team that does not own his rights. The team owning the player's rights will have 7 days to exercise a Right of First Refusal. If the team does not exercise their Right of First Refusal, they will receive draft pick compensation according to the below table, based on the Annual Average Value (AAV) of the contract.
•To be eligible to submit an offer sheet, a team must have the required compensation picks available and all compensation draft picks must be the team's original draft picks (no substitutions with picks acquired from other teams). A team can reacquire their own draft picks in order to become eligible for RFA offer sheets.
•Every draft selection required for compensation must be from the next draft, except where more than one draft pick from the same round is required for compensation.
•If N picks are required from the same round, they must be available in the next N + 1 drafts. So if 4 First Round Picks are owed, the next 5 drafts are eligible.
•For offer sheet purposes, AAV is determined by dividing the total compensation offered by the lesser of the length of the contract, or by 5. For contracts longer than 5 years, this will result in a higher AAV than expected. Example: a 6 year offer sheet worth $20 million total, would be considered an AAV of $4 million ($20 million divided by 5) for offer sheet compensation purposes.

In comment 12350518 Deej said:

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His leaving Boston didnt make a ton of sense. I thought he must have been looking for 6.5+ to get sent out of town for a return like that.

Not sure what's going on in beantown, but apparently Hamilton simply "didn't want to be there" like Kessel.

In comment 12350495 Greg from LI said:

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But at the time, it seemed pretty even. Graves was two years older than Mallette but actually had scored less in his career to that point. Mallette had made the Rangers as a 19 y/o and put up 12 and 13 goal seasons, and he was much bigger and more of a fighter than Graves (an important consideration in the NHL of 1991). Mallette had 25 NHL goals in 150 games to his name going into his age 21 season at the time of the deal. Graves was 23 and had 23 goals in 217 games. Their careers obviously went in dramatically different directions after the deal, but at the time it didn't seem like such a steal. BTW, in a odd coincidence both players were picked at the exact same spot in the draft - first pick in the second round, Graves in '86 and Mallette in '88.

That was frustrating and costly time for me at younger age. Figured a young Mallette was a safe bet so bought a Mallette #26 Jersey. Then had to strip off the #2 b/c Mallette changed his number to #16 when Kocur came. A short time later, he went to Edmonton. Haven't bought a Rangers jersey since. SOB.

In CGY. 1 yr, $3.9M.

There was that brief period in like 1989-1992 when the Rangers were a goonish team. Mallette, Domi, Kris King, Randy Moller, Mark Janssens....they weren't a great team, but it was fun for once to see the Rangers be a bunch of tough guys instead of their traditional role as punching bags.

LeBrun reports that he thinks PHI and EDM are the finalists for his services.

Assuming this is true, with Ramo now off the board, Isles should look at Greiss.

There rumored to be an unwritten rule among GM's not to extend offer sheets to other teams RFA's. Years ago Edmonton did and all the other GM's were pissed.

Especially for teams looking for offense like the Devils. Unless you want to pay a lot of money for a 34 year old Justin Williams your only chance is to trade for scoring. The Devils have some cap space but they should just loo for a bargain.

with Enroth.

In an ordinary year he'd be begging hat in hand for a contract (or just going back to Russia), but the pickins are just so slim that someone will roll the dice on him.

I think the trade market is going to be more interesting than it has been historically because of how weak the UFA market is.

I wonder if CHI is still looking to move Sharp?

In comment 12350653 mikeygiants said:

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with Enroth.

If Neuvirth goes to EDM, it's said that the Oilers will buyout or deal Scrivens. I'd sign up for that if he's bought out. Or Greiss. Not sure I want Enroth.

And Brett, I speculated yesterday that I think the Saad move results in CHI resigning Sharp. Nothing more than a gut feeling on that.

You'd think they'd rather deal Sharp to try and retain Saad long term, but maybe they think Sharp makes them a better team than Saad in the present and gives them a better chance to stay contenders right now?