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What Are The Knicks Doing? 142,27125 Kyle Wagner Filed to: LOLKNICKS 7/01/15 7:35pm What Are The Knicks Doing? I’m just going to list some things the Knicks are doing. The Knicks wanted to sign LaMarcus Aldridge. But LaMarcus made them wait until last to meet with him. They will see him tomorrow, maybe. The Knicks think they can sign Greg Monroe, and met with him last night. Monroe is a fine offensive player but will have to play alongside a 19-year-old who is very thin—and also Carmelo Anthony—and he is one of the worst defensive big men in the league. The Knicks like his butt. The Knicks would like to get Wes Matthews to play in the triangle, and presumably defend the perimeter. Wes Matthews is thinking it over while he recovers from a torn Achilles tendon, a bad injury for a guard. The Knicks are meeting with Arron Afflalo tomorrow. Afflalo was a Portland Trail Blazer last year. He shot well from three and on spot-ups in general, but was well below average at every other facet of the game, per Synergy Sports. The Knicks are expected to offer Afflalo “in the neighborhood of three years, $36 million-$38 million.” The Knicks wanted to sign Danny Green, but they forgot to call him: Sounds like Danny Green is hoping to meet with the Knicks soon as well, but may not be back from Brazil yet. The Knicks weren’t one of the teams to call him early on. I suspect Green is waiting for the Spurs to figure their other shit out before he has serious discussions with other teams, so said other teams may be waiting as well. Danny signed with the Spurs this morning, for less than Thad Young makes now. The Knicks did remember to call Patrick Beverley, who is bad. They also called Corey Brewer, who is a 3-and-D guy who shot 26 percent from three last season, and currently is a backup plan for the Sacramento Kings. They called Willie Green twice this morning before Danny Green signed with the Spurs. The Knicks have reached out to Jeremy Lin, whom the Kings are also interested in signing. The Kings, you will remember, were one of the teams jostling to draft Frank Kaminsky. They have been battling with the Knicks this whole offseason to get players who are in some demand. This is like when teams know that the Spurs or Rockets are interested in a player, and then try to get the same player because they know he will be good, except for a few minor differences. The Knicks have reached out to Kendrick Perkins, who is a mop languishing in a bucket of dirty, fetid water. The Knicks have reached out to Landry Fields, who is spending this offseason learning to shoot with his left hand. (Landry Fields, who already shot like his parents made him do math problems in his head before he was allowed to release the shoot button, is learning to shoot with his non-dominant hand, because he forgot how to shoot and play in general.) The Knicks are very interested in DeAndre Jordan, and their plan to sign him is to promise to make him the second option on offense, behind Carmelo Anthony. DeAndre Jordan, you will remember, cannot shoot or pass or dribble, which are things that you do on offense. DeAndre Jordan had a four-and-a-half-hour meeting with the Mavericks today, and has been out to dinner with Chandler Parsons for five nights in a row. (Five date rule, I guess.) Anyway, DeAndre’s meeting with the Knicks has not happened yet. The Knicks thought they might sign DeMarre Carroll. They used to have another player named the Junkyard Dog. The current JYD signed with the Raptors. Phil Jackson thought that he might be able to sign Paul Millsap, because he is good at defense, rebounding, and passing, which are things the Knicks need. Paul Millsap re-signed with the Hawks. The Knicks are showing late interest in Derrick Williams, who is a poor shooter who also cannot rebound or pass. The Knicks were interested in David West, who will be 35 when the season starts. Word was they wanted to sign him to a three-year contract. They were “very likely” to sign him just a few days ago. David West said he doesn’t want to play for the Knicks, because they are bad and he is old, which honestly sounds like a good reason the Knicks should also consider. The Knicks want to sign Robin Lopez too, and are planning on meeting with him. Robin Lopez has reportedly met with the Bucks.* Last season, Knicks traded Tyson Chandler away, in part because Phil Jackson was not sure he was a good fit for the triangle offense, and in part to dump Raymond Felton’s contract. He took back Samuel Dalembert, whom the Knicks waived for saying true things, and Jose Calderon. Raymond Felton makes $4.5 million this season, the last year of his deal. Jose Calderon makes $7.4 million this season, and $7.7 million next season. Tyson Chandler signed with the Suns for four years and $52 million, because he is good. The Knicks are interested in K.J. McDaniels, who could not hack it as a Philadelphia 76er. Wayne Ellington and Caron Butler, too. The Knicks are a team that does not have a draft pick next year, and are building around a 31-year-old with knee issues. They are on the clock, yet drafted a young stretch big—the riskiest phenotype in NBA prospects—and now need to plug a 90-pound 7-footer into an NBA defense that features Melo and probably Monroe, and has not ruled out bringing back Jason Smith and mother fucking Bargs. The Knicks are just ignoring reality and the rules of the physical universe around them. The Knicks are bullshit. |
Lebron/Wade and Bosh all going to one team to win titles is a rarity. Getting a freaking ping pong ball to fall your way in a lottery that even has a franchise player is an ultra rare occurrence.
So stop your whining and acknowledge that so far this offseason they are doing the right things that are in their power to do.
KP was the right pick. The Grant trade was a smart move. The Afflalo deal was a decent value. Lopez is an upgrade if the contract is fair it's a solid fall back position.
One step at a time. It could take longer than we may like but there is no need to be act like a child about it.
Wes Matthews has agreed in principle with the Mavericks on a four-year deal, per source. Turned down huge offer from Sacramento.
Reporters are ripping Jackson, but Monroe would not have been a huge leg up over Lopez, and it isn't clear what else he could have done once it became clear that teams were finding ways to commit next year's cap boost on long-term contracts this year. Especially given that the Knicks have so few picks going forward--lack of young, cheap talent, and lack of trading blocks.
Lopez is for one year only, so the Knicks get another crack next year.
I have practically given up on the NBA as the Knicks flounder under their idiot owner, but cannot find much to complain about this off-season. Only problem with Jackson is his horrible trades last year giving up something for cap relief and little else.
The Knicks haven't done anything wrong since Phil has taken over. All they have done is draft bpa and sign stop gaps that won't the long term cap.
This talk about Dolan and some dark cloud is overstated. The team is doing exactly what fans said Dolan wouldn't tolerate and what the smart fans have been clamoring for-- they are rebuilding. And this is the 2nd time in 6 years they are doing what fans said Dolan wouldn't tolerate so maybe we should put that belief to bed.
Yes they didnt get the big fish but so far it has been a good off season and with Affalo's opt out it left them with max space next year...
Lopez isnt a dominant big man but he is a great fit next to Melo and Porzingis(eventually)..
Knicks finally have 2 young players that the fans can watch and develop...
Now lets see what they do with Calderon, and the rest of the cap space..
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That's Brook, his brother. Robin's TRBs decreased the 2nd half of last season.
Yes they didnt get the big fish but so far it has been a good off season and with Affalo's opt out it left them with max space next year...
Lopez isnt a dominant big man but he is a great fit next to Melo and Porzingis(eventually)..
Knicks finally have 2 young players that the fans can watch and develop...
Now lets see what they do with Calderon, and the rest of the cap space..
Bingo - the Knicks are in the state they're in bc they've overpaid for mediocrity for years...and now some fans are up in arms bc they're not overpaying for so-so players. This was never a quick fix - at least they have a plan.
The only criticism worth debating is whether they should have paid Melo, when it was going to take time to rebuild a team anyway. But let's be honest - they still needed to try and sell tickets
Yeah jury is out on this one...but the Knicks are desperate for a big man who actually applies himself on defense, so I'm open minded
have you seen the new NBA climate.. what mediocre guys are getting? This is the new NBA..
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2014-15 cap: $63 million
2015-16 cap: $69 million
2016-17 cap: $90 million (estimate)
2017-18 cap: $105 million (estimate)
2015-16 was a wash anyway. Short of LeBron, Aldridge, or Gasol coming, we werent going to compete for a title (and BTW, unless LeBron gets hurt, the Cavs will win the East).
so look at 2016-17. $90 million cap. That's ~50% higher than this past year. So $10 million in 2016 dollars feels like <$7 million in 2015 dollars. $10 million in 2017 dollars feels like $6 million today.
Robin Lopez made $6.2 million last year and was a bargain. He's a guy who plays very good D and helps in so many ways. If you prorate his stats to 36 minutes, he's a 14-9-2 guy who shoots well over 50% and hits 76% of his free throws. The advanced stats bear this out, where he's a 17 PER 140 WS guy. His game is suited to winning, rather than compiling stats.
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I would like to see a veteran PF brought on so Poringis doesnt have to start right away..a guy like Bass might be a good pick up..adds some toughness and defense and can hit the mid range...
Need a vet back up center, i dont mind aldrich for the minimum behind Lopez....
Need a vet SF behind Melo, Early still has a lot to prove and would love for him to be the back up but i do not see it yet..
Right now Galloway is probably the back up SG, i think Knicks need to bring in someone, they have Ledo on a non guaranteed deal and he will probably play summer league...
Everyone knows the Knicks are not a championship contender, Knicks still need to find another player to take the scoring load off of Melo, the hope is Porzingis eventually...
With 4.5% raises probably starts at 12 million
Did you happen to watch him last year? He's also an absolutely awful fit in the triangle. No fucking thanks at any price.
Simple reason. Phil is changing the culture. Rondo is a selfish piece of shit from my understanding.
His season was injury riddled too.
Hopefully he's healthy this year and he plays well.
This... is... GREAT! LMAO!
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Reportedly he's looking for a 1 year deal in order to prove himself again and raise his stock in order to cash in next summer. So you'd have a motivated Rondo for a season and, when his head is on right, a pretty damn good PG.
Simple reason. Phil is changing the culture. Rondo is a selfish piece of shit from my understanding.
Yeah I didn't really see much of Rondo's game last season, only his time in Boston. Figured maybe you'd get the "good" Rondo for a season considering he's looking for one more big payday next year. It would be a risk though, and understandably so.
You have zero fucking clue what you're talking about.
With what other centers have been getting, I will be very surprised if Lopez only get 10-11m. Its going to be more like 12-13 which is what Asik got.
Good point. I actually remember on draft night hearing Jason Williams talking about how PGs hate playing in the triangle because it takes the ball out of their hands.