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DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 8:23 am
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Arron Afflalo will sign a two year deal with the Knicks. His option on the second year. $16 million total.

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What Are The Knicks Doing?
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What Are The Knicks Doing?

I’m just going to list some things the Knicks are doing.

The Knicks wanted to sign LaMarcus Aldridge.
But LaMarcus made them wait until last to meet with him.

They will see him tomorrow, maybe.
The Knicks think they can sign Greg Monroe, and met with him last night.
Monroe is a fine offensive player but will have to play alongside a 19-year-old who is very thin—and also Carmelo Anthony—and he is one of the worst defensive big men in the league.
The Knicks like his butt.
The Knicks would like to get Wes Matthews to play in the triangle, and presumably defend the perimeter. Wes Matthews is thinking it over while he recovers from a torn Achilles tendon, a bad injury for a guard.
The Knicks are meeting with Arron Afflalo tomorrow. Afflalo was a Portland Trail Blazer last year. He shot well from three and on spot-ups in general, but was well below average at every other facet of the game, per Synergy Sports.
The Knicks are expected to offer Afflalo “in the neighborhood of three years, $36 million-$38 million.”
The Knicks wanted to sign Danny Green, but they forgot to call him:
Sounds like Danny Green is hoping to meet with the Knicks soon as well, but may not be back from Brazil yet. The Knicks weren’t one of the teams to call him early on. I suspect Green is waiting for the Spurs to figure their other shit out before he has serious discussions with other teams, so said other teams may be waiting as well.
Danny signed with the Spurs this morning, for less than Thad Young makes now.
The Knicks did remember to call Patrick Beverley, who is bad.
They also called Corey Brewer, who is a 3-and-D guy who shot 26 percent from three last season, and currently is a backup plan for the Sacramento Kings.
They called Willie Green twice this morning before Danny Green signed with the Spurs.
The Knicks have reached out to Jeremy Lin, whom the Kings are also interested in signing.
The Kings, you will remember, were one of the teams jostling to draft Frank Kaminsky. They have been battling with the Knicks this whole offseason to get players who are in some demand. This is like when teams know that the Spurs or Rockets are interested in a player, and then try to get the same player because they know he will be good, except for a few minor differences.
The Knicks have reached out to Kendrick Perkins, who is a mop languishing in a bucket of dirty, fetid water.
The Knicks have reached out to Landry Fields, who is spending this offseason learning to shoot with his left hand.
(Landry Fields, who already shot like his parents made him do math problems in his head before he was allowed to release the shoot button, is learning to shoot with his non-dominant hand, because he forgot how to shoot and play in general.)
The Knicks are very interested in DeAndre Jordan, and their plan to sign him is to promise to make him the second option on offense, behind Carmelo Anthony.
DeAndre Jordan, you will remember, cannot shoot or pass or dribble, which are things that you do on offense.
DeAndre Jordan had a four-and-a-half-hour meeting with the Mavericks today, and has been out to dinner with Chandler Parsons for five nights in a row. (Five date rule, I guess.) Anyway, DeAndre’s meeting with the Knicks has not happened yet.
The Knicks thought they might sign DeMarre Carroll. They used to have another player named the Junkyard Dog.
The current JYD signed with the Raptors.
Phil Jackson thought that he might be able to sign Paul Millsap, because he is good at defense, rebounding, and passing, which are things the Knicks need.
Paul Millsap re-signed with the Hawks.
The Knicks are showing late interest in Derrick Williams, who is a poor shooter who also cannot rebound or pass.
The Knicks were interested in David West, who will be 35 when the season starts. Word was they wanted to sign him to a three-year contract. They were “very likely” to sign him just a few days ago.
David West said he doesn’t want to play for the Knicks, because they are bad and he is old, which honestly sounds like a good reason the Knicks should also consider.
The Knicks want to sign Robin Lopez too, and are planning on meeting with him.
Robin Lopez has reportedly met with the Bucks.*
Last season, Knicks traded Tyson Chandler away, in part because Phil Jackson was not sure he was a good fit for the triangle offense, and in part to dump Raymond Felton’s contract. He took back Samuel Dalembert, whom the Knicks waived for saying true things, and Jose Calderon.
Raymond Felton makes $4.5 million this season, the last year of his deal.
Jose Calderon makes $7.4 million this season, and $7.7 million next season.
Tyson Chandler signed with the Suns for four years and $52 million, because he is good.
The Knicks are interested in K.J. McDaniels, who could not hack it as a Philadelphia 76er.
Wayne Ellington and Caron Butler, too.
The Knicks are a team that does not have a draft pick next year, and are building around a 31-year-old with knee issues. They are on the clock, yet drafted a young stretch big—the riskiest phenotype in NBA prospects—and now need to plug a 90-pound 7-footer into an NBA defense that features Melo and probably Monroe, and has not ruled out bringing back Jason Smith and mother fucking Bargs.
The Knicks are just ignoring reality and the rules of the physical universe around them.
The Knicks are bullshit.



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The Knicks also have a meeting set up in L.A. with shooting guard Arron Afflalo, who is friends with Carmelo Anthony, and defensive center Robin Lopez.
The Knicks, however, still didn’t have Monroe in the bag and hopefully for Jackson’s sake, he’s not thinking along the lines of free agent David West, whom The Post reported wasn’t interested in the woebegone Knicks. The Indy Star quoted West on Wednesday, calling the rumors “ridiculous’’ because the Knicks don’t “qualify’’ as “a contender.’’
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Crazy  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 10:52 am : link
The Warriors add a looney caliber player as it is
RE: He  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 10:53 am : link
In comment 12353119 DanMetroMan said:
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Apparently told the Raptors he thinks they are on the upswing but felt they weren't yet "there" so if they aren't then we aren't either


Then why not sign with the Spurs..why even take a meeting with the Knicks and wait another day?
RE: Forget  
Lopes1984 : 7/2/2015 10:53 am : link
In comment 12353115 DanMetroMan said:
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LA. He told teams first on his list is a chance to win a title "right away". That's not the Knicks


I am sure the message that Phil and co. are going to deliver is that we may not contend for a title this season, but by bringing in LA and Afflalo + whoever he decides to mention as targets next offseason the goal is to compete for one in 2016-2017.

Now whether that is a realistic possibility or not is the big question, but hopefully Phil is a hell of a salesman and can get Aldridge to buy into his vision.
Wolstat  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 10:53 am : link
And David Aldridge hearing the same


@WolstatSun: Echoing @daldridgetnt report, told LaMarcus Aldridge meeting was good, sees Raptors on rise, but wants to join team on cusp (ie. Texas3)
RE: RE: He  
BeerFridge : 7/2/2015 10:54 am : link
In comment 12353122 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 12353119 DanMetroMan said:


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Apparently told the Raptors he thinks they are on the upswing but felt they weren't yet "there" so if they aren't then we aren't either



Then why not sign with the Spurs..why even take a meeting with the Knicks and wait another day?


You get one chance to get wined and dined in your prime. Enjoy it.
RE: RE: He  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 10:54 am : link
In comment 12353122 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 12353119 DanMetroMan said:


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Apparently told the Raptors he thinks they are on the upswing but felt they weren't yet "there" so if they aren't then we aren't either



Then why not sign with the Spurs..why even take a meeting with the Knicks and wait another day?


Wants his ego massaged? Happens all the time. He wouldn't be the first
it is kind of annoying...  
Italianju : 7/2/2015 10:55 am : link
that these guys would take a meeting with a team they 100% will not sign with. That is just to stroke their ego. Now i said the other day that a guy like aldridge could think that teaming up with Melo could make them a contender (and he might be right). These guys are obviously really confident. To be honest in the east maybe they could contend, but if he didnt think TOR could with him then i doubt he thinks we could.

Just meet with Jordan and if he says No, lets get Monroe signed.
He  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 10:55 am : link
Would be off his rocker to come here over the Spurs. Spurs have a roster ready to win a title right away, he's from Texas and Leonard is a young star
I don't know that I'd say Houston or Dallas are "on the cusp".  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/2/2015 10:56 am : link
Seems weird to include all Texas teams in that.
I could see it if he was visiting New York  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 10:56 am : link
They are meeting in an office building, not really glitz and glamour...

Now i think it is a slim chance anyway but i dont think he is as sold on the Spurs as everyone thinks..
How  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2015 10:56 am : link
is Houston not on the cusp? They were the 2 seed in the West and have 2 bonafide superstars.
Ugh..  
Jan in DC : 7/2/2015 10:58 am : link
I wish the Knicks could have done that Sacramento deal. That would have been amazing considering the wasteland that is our roster.
Deadspin has been crap for a long time now  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2015 10:58 am : link
I'll still read Magary because he's still funny as hell, but that's about it. It's declined significantly from the Will Leitch years. Every now and then they'll publish something worthwhile, but the interval between good stories gets longer and longer.
and they made it to the WC finals  
BeerFridge : 7/2/2015 10:59 am : link
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I would be SHOCKED  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 11:00 am : link
if he chose the Knicks over the Spurs, i jsut thought it was interesting that the Knicks are waiting when they said this whole time they would not wait on a player who is not really interested and that LMA told Mannix that he would not make a decision until he met with the Knicks...
Houston  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 11:00 am : link
Is far closer than the Knicks. In fact they would be title favorites adding him. Not sure how they are even in the "debate". In fact Houston is the clear 2nd best situation for him behind be Spurs.

Spurs
Houston

Toronto or Dallas
Suns
Knicks
If LMA insists on contending for a title next season  
Deej : 7/2/2015 11:00 am : link
then he's wasting a lot of teams' time. Between that and what I think was poor form in crappy on the Lakers presentation (I get that a lot of people have no problem with it), he's coming off as a douche to me. And Im hearing too much about how he wants someone else to take the beating at center.

I really dont know much about him other than his on court performance. But not impressing me.

All that said, Knicks have an elite scoring forward. Raps dont. You can squint and paint a picture with the Knicks getting to a title next season (Horford-LMA-Melo-AA-Grant with Porz off the bench/traded, and some luck on pieces).
Houston def belongs in the convo with....  
Italianju : 7/2/2015 11:01 am : link
SA, but DAL def doesnt. DAL is in really bad shape unless they are trying to get Jordan and Aldridge. DAL has Parsons who is fine and Dirk who isnt getting younger.
WOW! We lost him to the Bucks!?!?  
Anakim : 7/2/2015 11:01 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 24s24 seconds ago
Free agent Greg Monroe will sign a maximum contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
WOAH  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 11:02 am : link
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 53s54 seconds ago
Free agent Greg Monroe will sign a maximum contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
RE: WOW! We lost him to the Bucks!?!?  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2015 11:02 am : link
In comment 12353159 Anakim said:
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 24s24 seconds ago
Free agent Greg Monroe will sign a maximum contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Yahoo Sports.


Pretty okay with this.

Totally over having a defensive sieve for a center.
Also LMA's son lives in San Antonio  
Deej : 7/2/2015 11:02 am : link
so when he signs there today and it comes out that he was never really interested in anywhere else, I hope he gets the same condemnation that he heaped on the Lakers.
eff that guy!  
BeerFridge : 7/2/2015 11:02 am : link
the bucks!?
The one thing that I think helps the Knicks  
blueblood : 7/2/2015 11:02 am : link
is that they already have a top notch player in Carmelo. No one player can do it all on his own.. The East is also an easier road to the finals. LMA obviously is aware of this.

The problem is that the Spurs have a championship coach, championship players who know how to embrace the grind AND they have the money. LMA is from Texas I believe AND Texas has no state income tax...

So Phil is going to have a HELLUVA sell...
Wonder  
Phil in LA : 7/2/2015 11:03 am : link
which big we're getting.
RE: RE: WOW! We lost him to the Bucks!?!?  
hitdog42 : 7/2/2015 11:03 am : link
In comment 12353161 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 12353159 Anakim said:


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Adrian Wojnarowski ţ@WojYahooNBA 24s24 seconds ago
Free agent Greg Monroe will sign a maximum contract with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Yahoo Sports.



Pretty okay with this.

Totally over having a defensive sieve for a center.


blessing in disguise.
Here is the thing with Houston though  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 11:03 am : link
how are they creating teh space? who are they giving up?
Well that sux...  
Italianju : 7/2/2015 11:03 am : link
I know its not the end all be all, but the 2015 Knicks just took a pretty big hit.
Robin Lopez anyone?  
Lopes1984 : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
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I wonder what we offered  
Enzo : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
.
You cant lose a player  
blueblood : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
you never had...
Fuck  
Deej : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
Monroe is who I wanted.
On the other hand  
giantsfan44ab : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
the Raptors have a top level PG and an established center. The Knicks don't. I'm sorry but I don't think Melo and Aldridge can win a title together.
UGH  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/2/2015 11:04 am : link
.
Ouch  
Jay in Saratoga : 7/2/2015 11:05 am : link
Really hope we connect on one of the long shots, Aldridge or Jordan. Otherwise its going to be another rough season in NY.
Who are the FAs next year?  
Anakim : 7/2/2015 11:05 am : link
It makes sense to just keep the cap space and go nuts next year...even if we do lose a lottery first round pick because of Andrea fucking Bargnani.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/2/2015 11:06 am : link
Monroe was the one guy I thought we had a good shot at. I can't see LMA or DJ coming here.
losing  
MookGiants : 7/2/2015 11:06 am : link
a guy we wanted to the Bucks hurts no matter what way you slice it.
There's really no way around it  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/2/2015 11:06 am : link
We swung and missed this offseason. We needed Monroe, didn't get him.

Ah well.
Sorry,  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2015 11:06 am : link
I just dont agree with the notion that we need a 15/10 guy who can't defend or block shots.
If  
DanMetroMan : 7/2/2015 11:06 am : link
We don't at least land Harris Phil Phailed
free agents next year kind of suck unless you get durant  
hitdog42 : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
a bunch of solid bigs (horford/noah type) ... Durant... and then Mike conley.

Not a lot of top talent... I looked last night
Unless we sign...  
Italianju : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
Jordan (which we wont) im def a bit bummed. At this point i think the best player we can get is Harris and im not even sure how much better that makes us. Id only want him since he would be good value based on these contracts. Even if you get him and a defensive center a front line of say Melo, Harris, Biyombo (which we prolly cant afford) probably doesnt work all that well.
Not the worst thing in the world  
giantsfan44ab : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
Except for its a bad sign if Milwaukee is more attractive than NY. Unless of course, Monroe made the decision based off potential talent, then I commend him for that because the Bucks have their shit together. Regardless, NY about to get shit from the media now for it.
Knicks didnt offer Max  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
so how interested were they really?
RE: losing  
Deej : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
In comment 12353183 MookGiants said:
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a guy we wanted to the Bucks hurts no matter what way you slice it.


But the Mecca!
No one  
Earl the goat : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
Wants to play with Carmelo
RE: Not the worst thing in the world  
nygiants16 : 7/2/2015 11:07 am : link
In comment 12353192 giantsfan44ab said:
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Except for its a bad sign if Milwaukee is more attractive than NY. Unless of course, Monroe made the decision based off potential talent, then I commend him for that because the Bucks have their shit together. Regardless, NY about to get shit from the media now for it.


Knicks didnt offer Max so he took the money in Milwaukee
RE: RE: Not the worst thing in the world  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2015 11:08 am : link
In comment 12353197 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 12353192 giantsfan44ab said:


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Except for its a bad sign if Milwaukee is more attractive than NY. Unless of course, Monroe made the decision based off potential talent, then I commend him for that because the Bucks have their shit together. Regardless, NY about to get shit from the media now for it.



Knicks didnt offer Max so he took the money in Milwaukee


How do we know this?
At this point we might as well trade for David Lee and assets  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/2/2015 11:08 am : link
We have to be competitive next year. It will be an embarrassment if we are a lottery team without a pick.
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