NFT: Mets vs Cubs Game 3. Aka "The Shakeup"

Who is he going to play? There is no talent. Any shakeup has to start with Sandy and involves player movement.

that bunch.

Shecky, exactly how is this Collins' fault? which prime time bat is he not playing today? HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE. NOT ONE LEGIT MAJOR LEAGUE BAT. Blame Alderson and ownership.

Also, you do understand that Collins (nor any manager) does not have free rein to run the team as he sees fit under the Alderson/Beane model, right? The manager is viewed as "middle management", there to execute what he is told by the GM.

Do we get shut out again today? Gotta be a decent chance with Arrieta on the hill for CHC I would think.

when they play in AL parks. :-)

the number 2 ranked IFA and Gregory Guerrero. Not a bad day for the organization. Please don't tell what this does for today

leaving the bench short again.

Bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.

"curve I do not hit"

"Jobu, if you don't help me now, I say fuck you Jobu"

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In comment 12353080 Torrag said:

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Who is he going to play? There is no talent. Any shakeup has to start with Sandy and involves player movement.

Blaming the manager for the terrible offense and sub-par defense, I don't get it. Murpy and Tejada have no baseball sense, Flores can't do anything lately, Duda forgot how to hit, etc.

That said, I'd probably can him, shake things up. Easier to fire the manager than the squad.

Collins for the team's offensive woes and still think he's a shitty manager.

This guy cost himself a lot of money when he turned down contract extension.Hard to blame Sandy or Collins for injuries to D'Arnaud,Wright,Murphy,Blevins and regression of Duda.

In comment 12353186 Headhunter said:

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the number 2 ranked IFA and Gregory Guerrero. Not a bad day for the organization. Please don't tell what this does for today

and Guerrero was ranked number 6, right? Nice! I'm choosing to focus on this positive and not our embarrassing lack of offense/triple A position players.

base runner than Murph? He would have been picked off of 2nd ladt night with just an average throw from the catcher.

gets picked off at 1st...BY THE CATCHER


same ol story same ol NY METS...my friends

IQ, and he's their best hope in the lineup today.

depends on who is pitching against the Met's each day. Management needs to do something.

is over forget it. lol

Thanks 6 man rotation.

you can't just sit idly by and watch them drift out to sea and into oblivion.

hard to watch

deGrom. Our pitchers are seriously better hitters than the players in our lineup right now.

In comment 12353770 ZGiants98 said:

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deGrom. Our pitchers are seriously better hitters than the players in our lineup right now.

I'm laughing..seriously.

He doubles off the wall, other guys can't get it out of the infield.

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Is desperately trying to get to the ASB with this team as currently constructed until reinforcements get back, or there is truly nobody selling anything of notice.

I would find it very hard to believe that Sandy is doing nothing with all this outside pressure. It would be a really bad look if that was the case.

If I start seeing other teams make moves while we are still standing by idly, then I will start pointing fingers at Sandy.

Tejada 1st pitch weak grounder to SS... nice

through. Our savior!

Granderson doubles in deGrom!!! wowowowowowow`

something.

The Mets could probably have Tulo at SS if they were willing to trade off one of these pitchers.

I'm not saying they should, but strictly saying that there are always deals to be made if they're willing to pay up in prospects or absorb salary.

They're not willing to.

to cross the plate in 20 plus innings is our SP ...should have known.

want to trade off one of our big pitchers under and circumstance.

The worst thing would be to trade one off for a temporary bandaid that likely only mildly helps us. If players like Duda don't come out of it and we don't get a couple guys back from the DL like TDA and Wright this team isn't going anywhere anyway. Might as well keep the stud pitching and reload in the offseason.

and offensively he is a completely different player away from the thin air in Colorado. Here are some lifetime home vs. away #s:

xxxx avg slg OPS+
Home .325 .563 116
Away .276 .466 84

Add in his ridiculous contract and it spells A-V-O-I-D

It would only be for the right bat under contract. Who that is and what assets from the pipeline would be sacrificed I hope Sandy knows because that is his job.

Wheeler will be back and we'll still send four studs to the mound out of five next season. I'm thinking long term with the understanding that David Wright can no longer be 'the man' for this club.

The player acquired would be expensive though so the 'don't trade any pitchers' crowd can calm down as the Wilponsis will never go for it.

In comment 12353789 ZGiants98 said:

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want to trade off one of our big pitchers under and circumstance. The worst thing would be to trade one off for a temporary bandaid that likely only mildly helps us. If players like Duda don't come out of it and we don't get a couple guys back from the DL like TDA and Wright this team isn't going anywhere anyway. Might as well keep the stud pitching and reload in the offseason.

Agreed. There's no reason for a panic move at this juncture and unless a potential move is centered around Niese, Gee or Colon it likely isn't worth it.

you can laugh at me and tell how obvious it is, but it just hit me. Yes they need bat(s) but what the need more is someone other than Matt Harvey that has a personality and will get in players faces and kick them in the ass. They need a Keith Hernandez or a Gary Carter type who wouldn't stand for this nonsense and get in guy's grills. This is a team of Duda's. No personalities, no fire, no life. I'm not talking about Keith's bat or The Kid's bat which would help. Gets Nails a Backman an in your face guy

In comment 12353806 Torrag said:

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It would only be for the right bat under contract. Who that is and what assets from the pipeline would be sacrificed I hope Sandy knows because that is his job. Wheeler will be back and we'll still send four studs to the mound out of five next season. I'm thinking long term with the understanding that David Wright can no longer be 'the man' for this club. The player acquired would be expensive though so the 'don't trade any pitchers' crowd can calm down as the Wilponsis will never go for it.

That's a copout. Sandy should know because thats his job?? You don't have a single solution but he should? There are no solutions. There's only a handful of elite hitters in the game and they aren't available. The second tier guys aren't worth it and some like Upton will be available in the offseason anyway.

In comment 12353857 Headhunter said:

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you can laugh at me and tell how obvious it is, but it just hit me. Yes they need bat(s) but what the need more is someone other than Matt Harvey that has a personality and will get in players faces and kick them in the ass. They need a Keith Hernandez or a Gary Carter type who wouldn't stand for this nonsense and get in guy's grills. This is a team of Duda's. No personalities, no fire, no life. I'm not talking about Keith's bat or The Kid's bat which would help. Gets Nails a Backman an in your face guy

Sadly, thats the reputation Cuddyer had. Reynolds seems like he might be a gritty player. I agree with your premise though.

In comment 12353857 Headhunter said:

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you can laugh at me and tell how obvious it is, but it just hit me. Yes they need bat(s) but what the need more is someone other than Matt Harvey that has a personality and will get in players faces and kick them in the ass. They need a Keith Hernandez or a Gary Carter type who wouldn't stand for this nonsense and get in guy's grills. This is a team of Duda's. No personalities, no fire, no life. I'm not talking about Keith's bat or The Kid's bat which would help. Gets Nails a Backman an in your face guy

BINGO

this is like watching the Walking Dead. Harvey can only do it 1 every 6 days. You need a spark plug a Chase Utley that plays with an edge. Ray Knight where are you to punch Eric Davis in the face?

Agree 100% with your last post.
Couple weeks ago when they struck out in 9th inning all by looking at strike 3 pitches Cuddyer came out and said ,"hey thats baseball". Pussy attitude approach.

era, I long thought this team was full of pansies. We've long had a team full of choir boys that wilted like flowers when the heat was turned up (see 2007-2008) and it hasn't changed since.

I'm not immersed in the business of baseball to build a winning team. Man you're so myopic sometimes I'm surprised you can function.

"bad boys" around baseball? lol. I can't even really think of any right now. Bryce Harper might be the biggest but thats not happening obviously.

In comment 12353878 Torrag said:

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I'm not immersed in the business of baseball to build a winning team. Man you're so myopic sometimes I'm surprised you can function.

Lol. Ok so continue bitching about moves that should be made that you have zero solutions for. Thanks.

Not surprising as you view every statement through the goggles of your own agenda. Done with this. Please go back to your daily bipolar meltdown.

In comment 12353894 Torrag said:

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Not surprising as you view every statement through the goggles of your own agenda. Done with this. Please go back to your daily bipolar meltdown.

Daily meltdown? Do you even post here? Seriously. You show up once a year to offer gems like...

"I'm not immersed in the business of baseball to build a winning team." That's Sandy's job apparently.... Yet you come here to tell us how to run a business of baseball and to build a winning team...lol.

Thanks for your awesome input.

In comment 12353879 ZGiants98 said:

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"bad boys" around baseball? lol. I can't even really think of any right now. Bryce Harper might be the biggest but thats not happening obviously.

There is a huge lack of personality in baseball. And it goes all e way down the ladder. It's become too "professional" in High School and stays that way. There are some personalities out there, but few and far between. It has become a very bland game which makes it difficult to promote.

Is known as a good clubhouse guy but isn't known for being fiery or in your face at all. He's known for being a "calming influence"

down 4-1. With this offense, it might as well be 20-1...

Is awesome (personality wise), Bumgarner is a total badass. Love the culture the SF Giants seem to cultivate