Troy Aikman: "I've chosen not to date men"

The riots in Baltimore, the horrible hate crimes like what just happened down south, this whole gay situation, etc. All men are created equal but too many feel the need to judge others and judge them on the dumbest reasons. I'm not blaming you for posting this article. I just don't get the point of writing the article. What is the point?

And who he dates is no one's business but his own.

but when someone talks about being gay, duck and cover

he didn't say he didn't choose that to be his lifestyle he said it just isn't his lifestyle. Nothing in his quote screams out to me that he's a closeted homosexual. He might very well be but who the hell cares.

On the whole choice thing, if you really believe its a choice then that means tomorrow you can wake up and be in the mood for some hairy ass. You know just like some mornings you're in the mood for pancakes. Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? Thats why its not a choice.

A tortured soul? Is his career his lover?

you're not required to. Shame on people.

Maybe he doesn't. He can choose to act on that inclination or not (if he has it), that is his prerogative. It is a rather modern conceit to suppose that sex is the only thing that matters, or that whatever sexual inclination is not overborn by his desire for domesticity or religious life or whatever matters to him. If he is happy, his refusal to live as you would have him live in light of his perceived predilections is not really any of your business.

In comment 12354945 robbieballs2003 said:

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The riots in Baltimore, the horrible hate crimes like what just happened down south, this whole gay situation, etc. All men are created equal but too many feel the need to judge others and judge them on the dumbest reasons. I'm not blaming you for posting this article. I just don't get the point of writing the article. What is the point?

As long as we can both agree women are inferior I agree.

That shouldn't be in quotes, that's the author's bold interpretation of what he said.

if given the choice would they choose to be gay? I think back in the deep closet days most who say no to much of a hassle. I wonder if they polled today?

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This language is simply a natural progression of thinking homosexuality is a choice. If you profess that, then logically you have to believe that heterosexuality is a choice too.

signed, Caitlyn Jenner

you could come up with. Bravo!

In comment 12354989 Doomster said:

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signed, Caitlyn Jenner

Ah, so your idiocy does go beyond your football knowledge

is no better than Bayless' book years ago, which I had forgotten about. There were always "rumors" about Aikman. I put it in quotes because I always thought it was mostly jealous fan generated because he was winning and a pretty boy. He might be gay, he might be closeted, he might be straight. I don't care what he is other than a very good QB and now a very good analyst. Leave the guy alone. Plus, he is currently married, so leave his family in peace.

because I clicked the link(driving up their traffic)and skimmed the article.

What a waste of time in a very finite life. I'm not completely sure what the writer was trying to convey to us.

Being "gay" or having gay feelings isn't a choice. I can't identify with those feelings so I don't speak to the subject much but I do know you choose to act on your feelings or not in any area of your life.

If Aikman chooses not to "date" or whatever that is his choice and may not come from stigma but from his internal barometer of values, feelings, choice, etc.

Not for us to say cause last I looked none of us are God and in a position to judge the human heart? Am I wrong he guys and gals??

The person who wrote that article should be condemned for his horribly misleading headline. Troy did not say this, and twisting his words to create this implication is damaging and unprofessional.

Aquidneck, you should delete this post because your headline is even worse by the use of your quotation marks. Troy never said those words, but one would think he did by seeing this thread title. You either didn't read the piss-poor article, or you did and are fabricating (intentionally or not) something that Aikman never said.

Good for him!

Not gay pride?

In comment 12355039 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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The person who wrote that article should be condemned for his horribly misleading headline. Troy did not say this, and twisting his words to create this implication is damaging and unprofessional. Aquidneck, you should delete this post because your headline is even worse by the use of your quotation marks. Troy never said those words, but one would think he did by seeing this thread title. You either didn't read the piss-poor article, or you did and are fabricating (intentionally or not) something that Aikman never said.

I'm not going to delete because this is all very public at this point and Aikman has addressed it directly. I think you're right about the sloppy misleading writing, however, and have to admit to some sloppy reading as I skimmed over the article myself and didn't notice that the Aikman remarks were not a direct quote.

I actually agree with what Dunedin and others have said, ie that there are multiple reasons for making choices and sexual orientation might not be first on everyone's priority list. Why should I or anyone else assume it should be?

Either way, it's personal to the extent that it's not my life. Hopefully Aikman gets to make his choices without concern about whatever anyone might think. And I'd like to address your post directly at this point, Paul, as irresponsible as the article may have been why is the headline's implication inherently "damaging?"

Of course the idea that choice is personal, cuts two ways. Unfortunately, if you're closeted for social reasons you're already making choices based on the opinions of others.

Bottom line, I'm not going to delete the thread because it's a worthy discussion. Aikman is a public figure and can carry the weight of attention associated with the dialogue.

I couldn't care less about this thread or anyones sexual orientation. It should be pointed out that your last post was just about the dumbest thing I've ever read. Ever.

then how do you explain all the shit that happens in prison?

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then how do you explain all the shit that happens in prison?

Because in prison they have no choice?

So eat your hearts out, fellas.

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then how do you explain all the shit that happens in prison?

Heard some women on a TV show recently about prison (long term) that they become "Gay for the Stay"!

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In comment 12354967 Headhunter said:

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If you date a man your same size you can immediately double your wardrobe.

first and foremost you don't have to deal with a women after sex. You can wear each other's clothes. You don't have to listen to a story that should take 2 minutes tops turn into a half an hour saga. You get into an argument you will know exactly why you are arguing.

either.

Aikman may not have thought this one through all the way.

In comment 12355369 Headhunter said:

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...You can wear each other's clothes...

Not if it's a bear/twink relationship.

Aikman said this. "If that is a lifestyle people choose, so be it. It doesn't affect me one way or another. But it is not my lifestyle." This statement is hardly the same thing as saying, "I choose not to date men." Aikman is saying that if being gay is a lifestyle choice, it's not his choice. And if it's not a lifestyle choice, it's not him. Seems to me to be a fairly straightforward denial.

He'd answer the question unambiguously.

I'm not gay.


Instead, he shrouds his retort in a manner that leaves the door open for a variety of interpretations. Chiefly, is he actually gay but chooses to lead a heterosexual life that is at odds with his actual sexual identity?



Count me in the tally that says "he's gay" but too scared to admit it because of public and professional identity is built under the guise of a phony persona that is now has become too large to simply throw away.

Be damned if it doesnt advance the civil rights of millions of people around the world but instead preserves the hegemony of the 100 million dollar printing press that I sit on.

In comment 12355762 GeofromNJ said:

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Aikman said this. "If that is a lifestyle people choose, so be it. It doesn't affect me one way or another. But it is not my lifestyle." This statement is hardly the same thing as saying, "I choose not to date men." Aikman is saying that if being gay is a lifestyle choice, it's not his choice. And if it's not a lifestyle choice, it's not him. Seems to me to be a fairly straightforward denial.

That's the entire problem, he doesnt present a straight forward denial.

CHoosing not to date men is not equal to proclaiming that he isnt gay

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In comment 12355776 Sneakers O'toole said:

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Agreed. Article and alot of the posts are beyond ridiculous.

Whatever, who cares. I've never seen so much about 3-5% of the poplulation.

Then U.S. Jews around 2 percent must drive you bat shit for all the ink we get

In comment 12355930 Headhunter said:

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Then U.S. Jews around 2 percent must drive you bat shit for all the ink we get

Bat shit crazy. You mean this?
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certain feelings in people I guess like the gays and if you are a gay Jew you get too much attention from the majority of non Jew straight folks. Jews are known to be pushy

In comment 12355986 Headhunter said:

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certain feelings in people I guess like the gays and if you are a gay Jew you get too much attention from the majority of non Jew straight folks. Jews are known to be pushy

Nice.

In comment 12355986 Headhunter said:

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certain feelings in people I guess like the gays and if you are a gay Jew you get too much attention from the majority of non Jew straight folks. Jews are known to be pushy

But Jews are OK drivers although not NASCAR quality.

Jewish women drivers, not so much