NFT: Knicks Chat: Robin Lopez joins the squad!

In comment 12355341 Carl in CT said:

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Tell me more that wasn't obvious Mook.

Your next valuable contribution will be your first. Just stop.

In comment 12355434 Sgrcts said:

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In comment 12355429 BeerFridge said: Quote: Maybe the mavs need to clear some room. Anything we want on their roster, preferably cheap and tall? Mavs have 30 mil in space

Matthews is only getting 10?

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@rolopez42: Excited to be part of the #Knicks legacy! It's going to be like "On the Town" but w/way more box outs & dunks #ModeledMyGameAfterGeneKelly

Needs a 4/5, a wing defender, and a shooter (like the whole league, I know).

I like Robin Lopez. I think he fits this team really well and will help KP a ton in the learning process. He was one of the guys I was hoping we'd target before FA started. But never in a million years did I think we'd be signing him to that kind of money.

It's hard to give an opinion with how money is being handed out this offseason. But that seems like an overpay in any market. 13.5 a year for a defensive center.

But as time passes I'm glad we got Lopez. Give me guys that want to be here. I'm tired of us trying to sell NY. If you want to be here then awesome. If not, get the fuck out.

Phil has gotten, I'd like to hear what other ideas people have....given the situation he walked into. The biggest mistake so far in my view was winning the 2 games last week of the season, whether or not that comes back to bite us in the ass depends on the development of KP (who the majority seems to like).

People complain about Carmelo but I actually believe he takes more criticism than he should. Let's see him with a better roster around him. If you were to create a list of players you wouldn't let walk away from you in FA, I think Melo is in that class.

As for this offseason, the additions of Grant, AA and Lopez seem like smart and reasonable acquisitions at positions of need. We can't completely suck this season without our draft pick. We needed to improve but also keep next off season in mind. I think a 6-8 seed is a realistic expectation.

but Chandler Parsons is a master recruiter. He was one of the big reasons Dwight came to the Rockets and he supposedly did even more work to convince DeAndre to come to the Mavs. Partying with Chandler is apparently some sort of life-changing experience. I think CP3 being a little Napoleon Complex having douche really did play a role in DeAndre leaving, because in Dallas the best players (Dirk, Parsons) are both cool dudes and I think DeAndre preferred that environment to Paul's bitching.

And a Past Prime Chandler gets 54 million, you kind of know what the going rate is.

At least you got the younger guy with that money.

@WojYahooNBA: Free agent Corey Brewer has agreed to a three-year, $24 million deal to return to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

great in the open floor but does he doing anything else above average?

with no Brewer.

I would like to take a shot on Derrick Williams, who sounds like a priority for us right now. Should be cheap and has high upside.

In comment 12355459 robbieballs2003 said:

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But as time passes I'm glad we got Lopez. Give me guys that want to be here. I'm tired of us trying to sell NY. If you want to be here then awesome. If not, get the fuck out.

This.

In comment 12355482 Jon in NYC said:

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with no Brewer. I would like to take a shot on Derrick Williams, who sounds like a priority for us right now. Should be cheap and has high upside.

Agreed. Reminds me of Michael Beasley a lot which is kind of scary but there's a reason he was the #2 overall even if it was a bad draft. The due played for the wolves, Kings and the Pistons in the worst possible situations so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

My wish list with the remaining cap is either O'Quinn or Williams.

Wanna go after Gerald Green with the MLE.

Also, I read somewhere that Tobias Harris is considering of taking the qualifying offer if he doesn't get a deal he likes so he can enter free agency next year. Theoretically, could we offer him a 1 year deal that's more than his qualifying offer so he can come here?

Wouldn't it be a lot better for him to take $6-7 million for 1 year with our remaining cap dollars?

For the mini MLE

As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15

Who was the last FA that agreed to terms with a team but that deal was contingent upon another player signing here at the same position. This wasn't like LeBron and everybody else. This is a slightly better player in Jordan we are talking about. You never see this.

if he's being paid handsomely to do so) it would be surprising if other teams weren't offering similar terms. If and when this squad becomes a contender again, I hope he's around.

And with Hou resigning brewer they might be hesitant to match an offer. I don't really know a ton about him but it seems like he still has some upside.

In comment 12355492 Ash_3 said:

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if he's being paid handsomely to do so) it would be surprising if other teams weren't offering similar terms. If and when this squad becomes a contender again, I hope he's around.

He's from LA, went to school in Stanford, and there were claims he didn't want to play in the same city as his brother (idk why) but still chose us over the Lakers

In comment 12355489 Italianju said:

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For the mini MLE As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15

What about a sign and trade? We send Calderon, Early, and Mario Hezongawhatever over for him at the max. They get 2 prospects, a trade exception, and a backup PG/3 point shooter that their roster is currently lacking.

In comment 12355506 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 12355489 Italianju said: Quote: For the mini MLE As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15 What about a sign and trade? We send Calderon, Early, and Mario Hezongawhatever over for him at the max. They get 2 prospects, a trade exception, and a backup PG/3 point shooter that their roster is currently lacking.

What am I missing?

but I'd hate to start piling on assets.

In comment 12355502 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 12355492 Ash_3 said: Quote: if he's being paid handsomely to do so) it would be surprising if other teams weren't offering similar terms. If and when this squad becomes a contender again, I hope he's around. He's from LA, went to school in Stanford, and there were claims he didn't want to play in the same city as his brother (idk why) but still chose us over the Lakers

Where did you see claims he didn't want to play in the same city as his brother? There have been reports on the complete opposite. They are incredibly close and chose to go to the same college. Seems like Brook staying here played a huge role into why he wanted to be here IMO.

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Patrick Beverley has agreed to a four-year, $25M deal to return to Houston, agent Kevin Bradbury tells Yahoo Sports.

We're not getting big names yet. But we filled two big needs with Affalo and Lopez. Two solid pickups. I just hope Phil stays long-term.

In comment 12355496 Italianju said:

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And with Hou resigning brewer they might be hesitant to match an offer. I don't really know a ton about him but it seems like he still has some upside.

They don't have bird rights so have to match using cap space or exceptions..with brewer back have to think they let him go

But it seems a bit repetitive to have both KJ and Thanasis. They offer the same qualities as players/athletes, but KJ has done it in the NBA. I'd rather just save our money and hope Thanasis can do it in the NBA as well.

In comment 12355471 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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And a Past Prime Chandler gets 54 million, you kind of know what the going rate is. At least you got the younger guy with that money.

Exactly... I can't even complain.

all we have to do is bump up his qualifying offer and they can't match correct? sort of like us with Copeland a few years ago

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 1m1 minute ago
Report: Rajon Rondo agrees to one-year, $9.5 million deal with Sacramento Kings

even though he is a RFA

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Sam Amick ✔@sam_amick Pat Beverley's deal with Houston, I'm told: $ 18 million over 3 with a 5 million non guaranteed year in year 4.

Someone on here put a report or a quote on it. Sounded weird. Don't know if it's true or not. Doesn't really matter though, he's a knick now whether or not he does or doesn't want to be near Brook and he chose us over his hometown team, which is the Lakers, making it all the better.

Or just chose more money over less money. Per year, Ro Lo is earning more than both Tyson and Asik. It's not a given by any means that the Lakers were willing to cough up 13.5 per year for Ro Lo.

Again, I like him so I'm not mad or anything. But let's be realistic here. We're paying the man a lot of money. That's why he chose us.

Didn't offer him as much cuz they are trying to tank to keep their pick now they missed out on the big free agents?

What they think a player is worth. Maybe even more so considering their circumstance. It makes more sense for us to overvalue Lopez because his game should make KP's life easier while he's trying to acclimate himself to the NBA.

Does it really make sense for the Lakers to pay a B grade player that much money? What is he really going to do for them? Maybe they are taking the "we'll get em next time" approach.

Or maybe I'm dead wrong and both teams offered the same money and he chose the Knicks. But the fact that Ro Lo was the third big man signed and got the most money per year tells me that we won a bidding war.

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But the Lakers seem to have tons of cap space and I'm order to lure a major free agent they'd need something at center. Would've certainly helped their pursuit for LMA. Now it looks their left in the dust, and their pick is now top 3 protected.

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In comment 12355664 djm said:

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Solid price for him. Anyone think he starts?

4 years, $64 million....

In comment 12355669 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 12355664 djm said: Quote: Link Knicks sign Williams - ( New Window ) Solid price for him. Anyone think he starts?

I think as of now he starts, with the Zinger coming off the bench.

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In comment 12355680 Mike in St. Louis said:

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4 years, $64 million....

Damn, can't believe he didn't come to the Knicks with an offer of 11 million per year despite not even having 11 million in cap space

was cut Calderon and they would have had 11 mill in capspace. That was the easy part, the bigger issue was that even when it was said ORL wouldnt match a max offer (obviously they would) an offer of 11 would have def been matched.

thankfully

2 years, $6 million... a bargain ...