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NFT: Knicks Chat: Robin Lopez joins the squad!

DanMetroMan : 7/3/2015 11:01 am
Jordan says the Knicks are out so...


Robin Lopez has committed to the Knicks and will sign with them unless DeAndre Jordan chooses the Knicks.
In other words, Lopez is on the Knicks. While Lopez won't come cheap, he is actually a very good fit with them. He ranked third in the NBA for offensive rebounds in the 2013-14 season, he doesn't have many fouling issues, he's been very healthy in his career and he'll have a low usage rate on offense, which Carmelo Anthony will like. Lopez did have a down year in 2014-15, but he could wind up being a mid-round guy in standard leagues next season.
Source: Marc Stein on Twitter Jul 2 - 11:24 PM
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yea man he is taking his sweet time  
Stu11 : 7/3/2015 3:01 pm : link
I guess that pretty much sews up Aldridge to the Spurs or Phoenix. Come on Lamarcus please leave SA high and dry.
To me a casual follower of the Knicks in recent years  
Headhunter : 7/3/2015 3:07 pm : link
Phil Jackson has done what he came here to do. He has gotten rid of everyone that needed to be gone. He drafted 2 nice pieces, he has signed 2 nice pieces for at or below market and has a ton of money in 2016 FA when a lot of high value players will be in the market. The only thing is he doesn't have a number 1 pick to work with next year, but that is not fatal to the franchise going forward and it could be acquired. If you believe you can't build around Carmelo Anthony please disregard this
How much do you guys think  
giantsfan44ab : 7/3/2015 3:12 pm : link
Derrick Williams will cost?
Wow well thought out  
Carl in CT : 7/3/2015 3:17 pm : link
Tell me more that wasn't obvious Mook.
FWIW  
Michael 123 : 7/3/2015 3:17 pm : link
Hahn said on his radio show Knicks never offered Monroe a deal, said Phil knew Falk was using him and Phil was never that interested.
DeAndre formally told  
Mike in St. Louis : 7/3/2015 3:19 pm : link
Knicks no...
What's this?  
Anakim : 7/3/2015 3:23 pm : link
NBADraft.net ‏@nbadraftnet 1m1 minute ago
The New York Knicks send the rights to #2 pick Skal Labissiere to the Denver Nuggets for the 7th pick. Toronto receives the Nuggets #7 pick.
Nevermind, it's some mock draft  
Anakim : 7/3/2015 3:25 pm : link
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Next years FA class is overrated  
Sgrcts : 7/3/2015 3:30 pm : link
2017 is actually theoretically a lot more loaded then this one, without knowing who actually hits FA of course.

Dwight Howard, Blake, Westbrook, Ibaka, Curry are just a few of the of the names.
I think Jackson is doing it the right way  
larryflower37 : 7/3/2015 3:36 pm : link
put some young pieces in place this year.
you hope Grant and Zinger performs, Knicks win 30+ games and Melo stays health.
Now you are attractive to a Max player (Durant) in 2016
There are some more solid role players in next years FA.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/3/2015 3:36 pm : link
No stars that realistically are in the Knicks' reach.
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Anakim : 7/3/2015 3:41 pm : link
Bobby Marks ‏@BobbyMarks42 1h1 hour ago
NYK will a little over $7.3m in room plus Room ML (2.8) to add more pieces. Roughly $30m in room for 2016-17.

Robin Lopez deal looking like 12.64, 13.21, 13.78, 14.3 if the deal escalates 4.5%.

Seems like way too much for Robin, but I guess it's a player's market. Good to know we have a shit ton of cap space next year...albeit with no first round pick.
Nice, positive article...  
manh george : 7/3/2015 3:50 pm : link
on Lopez and how he fits on the Knicks.

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Lopez isn't a thrilling player to watch, and I can understand why his addition feels like settling, but I'm excited to have him around, and I think every single Knick will be happy to join him. He'll help the Knicks win games this season, and New York will have the inside track on keeping him around if and when the time comes to win a *lot* of games.

Link - ( New Window )
re. KD: think TTH's 3:36  
ColHowPepper : 7/3/2015 3:53 pm : link
way more realistic than LarryFlowers of same time stamp
They flashed the money at people and they didn't come  
jcn56 : 7/3/2015 4:05 pm : link
So on to plan B. The one thing that just keeps ringing in my ear is that Melo is going to look like one hell of a screaming bargain within the next couple of years.
RE: That Bargnani  
djm : 7/3/2015 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12355149 Joey in VA said:
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Deal just sticks in my craw. When will this franchise ever learn???? Until Dolan is out, this team will suck in perpetuity.


Horrible trade but Dolan didn't make the trade the idiot GM did. Dolan appears to be staying out of the way lately. Wish he got in the way of that trade.

It's not all Dolan. If anything he's displayed too much loyalty and made some bad GM hirings. I think it's lazy to put everything on Dolan. The rangers have been fine for the last decade. Why? Because he allows sather and his minions to do their job. And they have done a pretty good job. When he's allowed the gms for the Knicks to do their job they have failed to build a winning team. Isaiah Thomas was a disaster. Walsh signed stat and drafted hill. What's his name traded for bargs. Felton got fat and lazy. JR smith went nuts. Woodson didn't preach defense and his act wore thin. On and on.

If anything Dolan has been too loyal. See the IT tenure.
With all that dais  
djm : 7/3/2015 4:08 pm : link
I don't wanna sound like I'm defending Dolan. He's a world class coke headed dick bag. But I think some if the doom and gloom outlook with the Knicks centered around Dolan is overstated. The media has hit their mark and won.
RE: FWIW  
bceagle05 : 7/3/2015 4:14 pm : link
In comment 12355343 Michael 123 said:
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Hahn said on his radio show Knicks never offered Monroe a deal, said Phil knew Falk was using him and Phil was never that interested.


And that fact will get NO play in the media, of course. Much more fun to go crazy about Monroe "spurning" the Knicks and choosing to live in Milwaukee rather than playing here.
RE: RE: That Bargnani  
TheMick7 : 7/3/2015 4:18 pm : link
In comment 12355382 djm said:
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In comment 12355149 Joey in VA said:


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Deal just sticks in my craw. When will this franchise ever learn???? Until Dolan is out, this team will suck in perpetuity.



Horrible trade but Dolan didn't make the trade the idiot GM did. Dolan appears to be staying out of the way lately. Wish he got in the way of that trade.

It's not all Dolan. If anything he's displayed too much loyalty and made some bad GM hirings. I think it's lazy to put everything on Dolan. The rangers have been fine for the last decade. Why? Because he allows sather and his minions to do their job. And they have done a pretty good job. When he's allowed the gms for the Knicks to do their job they have failed to build a winning team. Isaiah Thomas was a disaster. Walsh signed stat and drafted hill. What's his name traded for bargs. Felton got fat and lazy. JR smith went nuts. Woodson didn't preach defense and his act wore thin. On and on.

If anything Dolan has been too loyal. See the IT tenure.


djm, Agree w/everything you say except for Sather. He was a disaster before the NHL instituted a cap.He brought in every over the hill star at an inflated price. Without a cap, I think his bromance w/Dolan wouldn't have lasted!
So why did we meet Monroe  
Deej : 7/3/2015 4:22 pm : link
at 12:01 am on July 1? I really struggle to believe that in a world when Chandler, Lopez, and Asik are getting 12-13+ million that David Falk needed subterfuge to get Monroe max offers starting at 15 million.

Im not super upset (I did want Monroe), but I trust Falk's quotes over what reporters say they're hearing. I suspect that internally they thought they were being all smart focusing on the get-able guy, Monroe was a lock, and it's embarrassing to them that NY, the Knicks, the Mecca, and Phil Jackson lost the 4th best center in the FA market to a team that is the archetype for "well not FAs are gonna sign to live in that town".
RE: RE: FWIW  
aimrocky : 7/3/2015 4:22 pm : link
In comment 12355389 bceagle05 said:
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In comment 12355343 Michael 123 said:


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Hahn said on his radio show Knicks never offered Monroe a deal, said Phil knew Falk was using him and Phil was never that interested.



And that fact will get NO play in the media, of course. Much more fun to go crazy about Monroe "spurning" the Knicks and choosing to live in Milwaukee rather than playing here.


Keep in mind that Hahn works for the Knicks. The Knicks could have planted that story.
Jordan to Dallas...  
Mike in St. Louis : 7/3/2015 4:24 pm : link
According to sources...
So much for concerns about the aging Clips core  
Deej : 7/3/2015 4:28 pm : link
Dirk is old, and Jordan-Parsons-Matthews is a lottery team in the West if Dirk declines off last season's 17 ppg.
RE: RE: RE: FWIW  
bceagle05 : 7/3/2015 4:33 pm : link
Keep in mind that Hahn works for the Knicks. The Knicks could have planted that story. [/quote]

I was listening when it was said - Hahn's radio partner (DiPietro) spoke with Ian Begley about it. True, it could be BS, but the uproar over Greg Monroe yesterday was laughable. He fit none of the criteria Phil and Fisher said they wanted going forward at the center position. Jordan and Lopez were the two Cs who did, and the Knicks went much harder after both of them.
RE: So why did we meet Monroe  
D-Rod : 7/3/2015 4:46 pm : link
In comment 12355399 Deej said:
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at 12:01 am on July 1? I really struggle to believe that in a world when Chandler, Lopez, and Asik are getting 12-13+ million that David Falk needed subterfuge to get Monroe max offers starting at 15 million.

Im not super upset (I did want Monroe), but I trust Falk's quotes over what reporters say they're hearing. I suspect that internally they thought they were being all smart focusing on the get-able guy, Monroe was a lock, and it's embarrassing to them that NY, the Knicks, the Mecca, and Phil Jackson lost the 4th best center in the FA market to a team that is the archetype for "well not FAs are gonna sign to live in that town".


Agreee, if the Knicks weren't all that interested, I don't believe they would rushed to meet him at the earliest time possible.
Disaster for the clippers and lakers.  
BeerFridge : 7/3/2015 5:06 pm : link
Maybe the mavs need to clear some room. Anything we want on their roster, preferably cheap and tall?
RE: Disaster for the clippers and lakers.  
Sgrcts : 7/3/2015 5:10 pm : link
In comment 12355429 BeerFridge said:
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Maybe the mavs need to clear some room. Anything we want on their roster, preferably cheap and tall?


Mavs have 30 mil in space
RE: Wow well thought out  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/3/2015 5:11 pm : link
In comment 12355341 Carl in CT said:
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Tell me more that wasn't obvious Mook.

Your next valuable contribution will be your first. Just stop.
RE: RE: Disaster for the clippers and lakers.  
BeerFridge : 7/3/2015 5:14 pm : link
In comment 12355434 Sgrcts said:
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In comment 12355429 BeerFridge said:


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Maybe the mavs need to clear some room. Anything we want on their roster, preferably cheap and tall?



Mavs have 30 mil in space


Matthews is only getting 10?
Stein  
Canton : 7/3/2015 5:23 pm : link
@ESPNSteinLine: ESPN sources say DeAndre Jordan is on verge of accepting Mavs' four-year, $80M+ max offer. Dallas firmly in lead and decision likely today
Robin Lopez  
Canton : 7/3/2015 5:24 pm : link
@rolopez42: Excited to be part of the #Knicks legacy! It's going to be like "On the Town" but w/way more box outs & dunks #ModeledMyGameAfterGeneKelly
Anyone got a list of the best remaining FAs?  
Deej : 7/3/2015 5:30 pm : link
Needs a 4/5, a wing defender, and a shooter (like the whole league, I know).
Man...  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/3/2015 5:38 pm : link
I like Robin Lopez. I think he fits this team really well and will help KP a ton in the learning process. He was one of the guys I was hoping we'd target before FA started. But never in a million years did I think we'd be signing him to that kind of money.

It's hard to give an opinion with how money is being handed out this offseason. But that seems like an overpay in any market. 13.5 a year for a defensive center.
It would have been great to get LMA  
robbieballs2003 : 7/3/2015 5:41 pm : link
But as time passes I'm glad we got Lopez. Give me guys that want to be here. I'm tired of us trying to sell NY. If you want to be here then awesome. If not, get the fuck out.
For all the shit  
Chris684 : 7/3/2015 5:52 pm : link
Phil has gotten, I'd like to hear what other ideas people have....given the situation he walked into. The biggest mistake so far in my view was winning the 2 games last week of the season, whether or not that comes back to bite us in the ass depends on the development of KP (who the majority seems to like).

People complain about Carmelo but I actually believe he takes more criticism than he should. Let's see him with a better roster around him. If you were to create a list of players you wouldn't let walk away from you in FA, I think Melo is in that class.

As for this offseason, the additions of Grant, AA and Lopez seem like smart and reasonable acquisitions at positions of need. We can't completely suck this season without our draft pick. We needed to improve but also keep next off season in mind. I think a 6-8 seed is a realistic expectation.
I don't know how he does it  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/3/2015 5:59 pm : link
but Chandler Parsons is a master recruiter. He was one of the big reasons Dwight came to the Rockets and he supposedly did even more work to convince DeAndre to come to the Mavs. Partying with Chandler is apparently some sort of life-changing experience. I think CP3 being a little Napoleon Complex having douche really did play a role in DeAndre leaving, because in Dallas the best players (Dirk, Parsons) are both cool dudes and I think DeAndre preferred that environment to Paul's bitching.
when Omer Asik gets 60 million  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/3/2015 6:01 pm : link
And a Past Prime Chandler gets 54 million, you kind of know what the going rate is.

At least you got the younger guy with that money.
Glad we passed  
Italianju : 7/3/2015 6:08 pm : link
@WojYahooNBA: Free agent Corey Brewer has agreed to a three-year, $24 million deal to return to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Agreed on Brewer  
Torrag : 7/3/2015 6:13 pm : link
great in the open floor but does he doing anything else above average?
Okay  
Jon in NYC : 7/3/2015 6:22 pm : link
with no Brewer.

I would like to take a shot on Derrick Williams, who sounds like a priority for us right now. Should be cheap and has high upside.
RE: It would have been great to get LMA  
Del Shofner : 7/3/2015 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12355459 robbieballs2003 said:
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But as time passes I'm glad we got Lopez. Give me guys that want to be here. I'm tired of us trying to sell NY. If you want to be here then awesome. If not, get the fuck out.


This.
RE: Okay  
giantsfan44ab : 7/3/2015 6:30 pm : link
In comment 12355482 Jon in NYC said:
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with no Brewer.

I would like to take a shot on Derrick Williams, who sounds like a priority for us right now. Should be cheap and has high upside.


Agreed. Reminds me of Michael Beasley a lot which is kind of scary but there's a reason he was the #2 overall even if it was a bad draft. The due played for the wolves, Kings and the Pistons in the worst possible situations so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

My wish list with the remaining cap is either O'Quinn or Williams.

Wanna go after Gerald Green with the MLE.

Also, I read somewhere that Tobias Harris is considering of taking the qualifying offer if he doesn't get a deal he likes so he can enter free agency next year. Theoretically, could we offer him a 1 year deal that's more than his qualifying offer so he can come here?
Harris's qualifying is $4.4 million  
giantsfan44ab : 7/3/2015 6:33 pm : link
Wouldn't it be a lot better for him to take $6-7 million for 1 year with our remaining cap dollars?
I doubt u r getting green  
Italianju : 7/3/2015 6:38 pm : link
For the mini MLE

As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15
I really have a lot of respect for Lopez after this FA period.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/3/2015 6:44 pm : link
Who was the last FA that agreed to terms with a team but that deal was contingent upon another player signing here at the same position. This wasn't like LeBron and everybody else. This is a slightly better player in Jordan we are talking about. You never see this.
Lopez wants to be here (and even  
Ash_3 : 7/3/2015 6:48 pm : link
if he's being paid handsomely to do so) it would be surprising if other teams weren't offering similar terms. If and when this squad becomes a contender again, I hope he's around.
Knicks still seem to have interest in mcdaniels  
Italianju : 7/3/2015 6:52 pm : link
And with Hou resigning brewer they might be hesitant to match an offer. I don't really know a ton about him but it seems like he still has some upside.
RE: Lopez wants to be here (and even  
giantsfan44ab : 7/3/2015 6:54 pm : link
In comment 12355492 Ash_3 said:
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if he's being paid handsomely to do so) it would be surprising if other teams weren't offering similar terms. If and when this squad becomes a contender again, I hope he's around.


He's from LA, went to school in Stanford, and there were claims he didn't want to play in the same city as his brother (idk why) but still chose us over the Lakers
RE: I doubt u r getting green  
giantsfan44ab : 7/3/2015 6:56 pm : link
In comment 12355489 Italianju said:
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For the mini MLE

As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15


What about a sign and trade? We send Calderon, Early, and Mario Hezongawhatever over for him at the max. They get 2 prospects, a trade exception, and a backup PG/3 point shooter that their roster is currently lacking.
RE: RE: I doubt u r getting green  
Anakim : 7/3/2015 6:59 pm : link
In comment 12355506 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 12355489 Italianju said:


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For the mini MLE

As for Harris if we signed him to that then ORL would just match. Got to offer him at least 10 per but prolly closer to the max of 15



What about a sign and trade? We send Calderon, Early, and Mario Hezongawhatever over for him at the max. They get 2 prospects, a trade exception, and a backup PG/3 point shooter that their roster is currently lacking.


What am I missing?
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