With a pretty wide distribution across New York as listed on the linked page below -- I am thrilled! Gonna switch over all my motorized gear to this. Link - ( New Window )
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
here is an article about ethanol issues - and it doesn't even address the environmental and economic issues -- which are enormous. Overall as things stand right now - making and using ethanol as a fuel alternative is proving to be a huge mistake Link - ( New Window )
a few weeks ago. It has been about the same price but with lower octane (91 vs. 93).
Yes -- that's pretty much what Stewart's is doing too -- 91 Octane and same price as Premium -- I know some places that are charging nearly $6/gallon for pure non-ethanol gas -- it's pretty much a winter requirement for flying and small engines in the Adirondaks
I swear, I'll drive to Albany to pick up 120 gallons
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
You also have reduced gas mileage with ethanol, not to mention the higher price of corn and everything that uses corn products. There is no benefit.
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
of family that grow corn out in Iowa and western IL there is a lot of advantages to growing the crop because of ethanol gas. However I agree that consumers should have a choice at the pumps
of family that grow corn out in Iowa and western IL there is a lot of advantages to growing the crop because of ethanol gas. However I agree that consumers should have a choice at the pumps
jt - there is no doubt that a lot of farmers have benefited from growing corn for fuel -- not just for ethanol - but also for the corn furnaces that are growing in popularity -- but you should hear my fellow farmers curse out what ethanol does to their tractors and small engines
debate over Ethanol is tricky because it does burn cleaner with less toxic materials such as lead and benzene then straight Gasoline. However, it does eat at engines over time and the truth is that you could farm every inch of America with corn and it wouldn't produce enough to meet the countries fuel needs. So is it worth it? well it will never solve our dependency on Oil but the industry is creating thousands of well paying jobs in the heartland of the country so its hard for me to vote against it.
Ethanol is poison for internal combustion engines.
Alcohol (ethanol is typically 10% alcohol) lacks the energy value of gasoline so it degrades performance and fuel mileage. I have seen the difference on this. You may actually get more for your money in the long run by using the more expensive pure gasoline, but you'll have to figure that out for your own individual engines.
What I can definitely say is that more and more of the people I know are coming to the conclusion that it is much better to pay more for real gas to run in our power sports toys (motorcycles, boats, snowmobiles, ATVs, go-karts, and so on) regardless of mileage considerations. Real gasoline will also help your lawnmower, weed whacker, chain saw, snow thrower, and other outdoor power equipment run better and last longer.
Alcohol also corrodes and destroys engine components if they weren't engineered to stand up to the very corrosive effects of alcohol. I have personal experience with this one. Luckily it didn't cost me an engine, but I did have expensive repairs to two of my small engines due to ethanol.
And E-15 (motor fuel that is 85% gasoline and 15% alcohol) will definitely damage any engine that was not specifically engineered to run on that inferior blend.
Consequently, more and more gas stations are now selling pure gasoline.
Most, if not all, FasTrac stations across New York state sell pure gasoline as an option, and we are starting to see it more in independent gas stations and power sports dealerships because the demand is there.
And that's not even beginning to discuss what ethanol has done to the cost of food because so much corn is going into our gas tanks.
RE: Ethanol is poison for internal combustion engines.
Alcohol (ethanol is typically 10% alcohol) lacks the energy value of gasoline so it degrades performance and fuel mileage. I have seen the difference on this. You may actually get more for your money in the long run by using the more expensive pure gasoline, but you'll have to figure that out for your own individual engines.
What I can definitely say is that more and more of the people I know are coming to the conclusion that it is much better to pay more for real gas to run in our power sports toys (motorcycles, boats, snowmobiles, ATVs, go-karts, and so on) regardless of mileage considerations. Real gasoline will also help your lawnmower, weed whacker, chain saw, snow thrower, and other outdoor power equipment run better and last longer.
Alcohol also corrodes and destroys engine components if they weren't engineered to stand up to the very corrosive effects of alcohol. I have personal experience with this one. Luckily it didn't cost me an engine, but I did have expensive repairs to two of my small engines due to ethanol.
And E-15 (motor fuel that is 85% gasoline and 15% alcohol) will definitely damage any engine that was not specifically engineered to run on that inferior blend.
Consequently, more and more gas stations are now selling pure gasoline.
Most, if not all, FasTrac stations across New York state sell pure gasoline as an option, and we are starting to see it more in independent gas stations and power sports dealerships because the demand is there.
And that's not even beginning to discuss what ethanol has done to the cost of food because so much corn is going into our gas tanks.
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
here is an article about ethanol issues - and it doesn't even address the environmental and economic issues -- which are enormous. Overall as things stand right now - making and using ethanol as a fuel alternative is proving to be a huge mistake
Link - ( New Window )
Yes -- that's pretty much what Stewart's is doing too -- 91 Octane and same price as Premium -- I know some places that are charging nearly $6/gallon for pure non-ethanol gas -- it's pretty much a winter requirement for flying and small engines in the Adirondaks
2 Stewart's in Kingston have it -- that's an hour closer to you than Albany - and Kingston is a stop on the Thruway
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The benefit?
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
You also have reduced gas mileage with ethanol, not to mention the higher price of corn and everything that uses corn products. There is no benefit.
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The benefit?
The benefit is that ethanol fouls up gas lines and engines because it breaks down quickly and leaves a residue -- if you keep ethanol based gas in your engine based gear for more than two months (and it may actually be sooner than 2 months) -- you run a very high risk of gumming up the works
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jt - there is no doubt that a lot of farmers have benefited from growing corn for fuel -- not just for ethanol - but also for the corn furnaces that are growing in popularity -- but you should hear my fellow farmers curse out what ethanol does to their tractors and small engines
What I can definitely say is that more and more of the people I know are coming to the conclusion that it is much better to pay more for real gas to run in our power sports toys (motorcycles, boats, snowmobiles, ATVs, go-karts, and so on) regardless of mileage considerations. Real gasoline will also help your lawnmower, weed whacker, chain saw, snow thrower, and other outdoor power equipment run better and last longer.
Alcohol also corrodes and destroys engine components if they weren't engineered to stand up to the very corrosive effects of alcohol. I have personal experience with this one. Luckily it didn't cost me an engine, but I did have expensive repairs to two of my small engines due to ethanol.
And E-15 (motor fuel that is 85% gasoline and 15% alcohol) will definitely damage any engine that was not specifically engineered to run on that inferior blend.
Consequently, more and more gas stations are now selling pure gasoline.
Most, if not all, FasTrac stations across New York state sell pure gasoline as an option, and we are starting to see it more in independent gas stations and power sports dealerships because the demand is there.
And that's not even beginning to discuss what ethanol has done to the cost of food because so much corn is going into our gas tanks.
What I can definitely say is that more and more of the people I know are coming to the conclusion that it is much better to pay more for real gas to run in our power sports toys (motorcycles, boats, snowmobiles, ATVs, go-karts, and so on) regardless of mileage considerations. Real gasoline will also help your lawnmower, weed whacker, chain saw, snow thrower, and other outdoor power equipment run better and last longer.
Alcohol also corrodes and destroys engine components if they weren't engineered to stand up to the very corrosive effects of alcohol. I have personal experience with this one. Luckily it didn't cost me an engine, but I did have expensive repairs to two of my small engines due to ethanol.
And E-15 (motor fuel that is 85% gasoline and 15% alcohol) will definitely damage any engine that was not specifically engineered to run on that inferior blend.
Consequently, more and more gas stations are now selling pure gasoline.
Most, if not all, FasTrac stations across New York state sell pure gasoline as an option, and we are starting to see it more in independent gas stations and power sports dealerships because the demand is there.
And that's not even beginning to discuss what ethanol has done to the cost of food because so much corn is going into our gas tanks.
Good post, Red Dog.