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Happy 4th! and while everyone is asleep, some Giants talk...

George from PA : 7/4/2015 8:44 am
Beason seems to be the name everyone brings up as the key to the defense and although our best point of attack LBer and playcaller....he is more then likely just a 2 down backer due to his liability in coverage.

And certainly JPP, Hankins and Prince are our best overall talent on D,

but my choice is Kennard. He needs to be our most desruptive player. I suspect will lead the team in tackles if he plays a full schedule. He is our best biltzer. Nothing official but I feel he will be our nickel MLB which has become the primary defense played.

Did we corner the market on 220+ lbs safeties and outside LBers? I sure hope they are fast enough or well positioned.

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I know Eric feels Cruz is the key on O and now many can argue Flowers and without Eli why bother.....he is such a stable, reliable anchor we all take him for granted and he is poised for his best year ever. Vereen will prove if Eli is able to dump the ball to the backs effectivily, that is the one area he has never been comfortable.

But OBJ is who puts fear and must be accounted for by the D. If Cruz is limited, OBJ can handle the slot and move up Washington without too much of a set back. He loosenes up the defense for everyone.

How much attention will we put on the RT spot?

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I absolutely love the D, Harris signing....he will have the biggest impact......instantly improves 4 weak areas: K, P, KR, and PR while weakening our top rival in 4 areas. I wonder how many will even notice


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I wonder if what Thurman said has any legs? If there is anything that has always bugged me about Coughlin was how when he started, he demissed the past injuries, and now how it has become the albatross of this team.


Discuss?



If Cruz returns to top form that's a huge plus.  
Ira : 7/4/2015 8:53 am : link
But IF the ol can protect Eli and IF one of the young tight ends proves out, this offense can still be top notch. Vereen will be a big plus.
I actually prefer Cruz  
kelsto811 : 7/4/2015 8:57 am : link
to take off until week 6, I really think Randle is going to be big this year
RE: I actually prefer Cruz  
Giantology : 7/4/2015 9:42 am : link
In comment 12355833 kelsto811 said:
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to take off until week 6, I really think Randle is going to be big this year


If Cruz is healthy, why? What if in Week 7 he suffers some other injury? Being overly cautious makes no sense. If he's good to go, let him play.
giantology  
kelsto811 : 7/4/2015 9:45 am : link
if he's healthy of course I want him to play. Admittedly, I'm being pretty pessimistic when it comes to his recovery
Getting guys back from injuries alone upgrades the team.  
Gmen1982 : 7/4/2015 10:41 am : link
I think they are easily anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6. Hell last year the Jaguars game and the San Fran game could have gone the other way, along with the last Dallas games and the last Philly game. That would have made them 10-6.
I completely agree that Eli has pretty much sucked throwing the ball  
wgenesis123 : 7/4/2015 11:17 am : link
to running backs. However I do not remember him having that problem with Tiki Barber, leastwise not to the same degree.
If Cruz can play like the Cruz we remember this offense  
wgenesis123 : 7/4/2015 11:23 am : link
can be a nightmare for opposing defenses. I think besides the obvious health question this requires the o-line to keep Eli in the game. If a pass rush takes out Eli, everything else goes down the toilet.
The Giants  
Glover : 7/4/2015 11:25 am : link
will either just miss the playoffs or win the Super Bowl in 2015/16.
RE: If Cruz returns to top form that's a huge plus.  
SGMen : 7/4/2015 11:36 am : link
In comment 12355831 Ira said:
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But IF the ol can protect Eli and IF one of the young tight ends proves out, this offense can still be top notch. Vereen will be a big plus.
Call me crazy but Donnell had a "coming out party" last year and played better than most expected. I think TE Robinson has his coming out party this year and really finally surprises. The guy is athletic; he is no longer "raw"; he is healthy for the second year in a row; and, he is in a contract year so he'll be giving his all for sure.

Vereen was a HUGE signing cause we really needed this type of player in the WC offense. Eli will be looking Vereen's way early and often.
I just love stream of consciousness posts from the experts  
Ivan15 : 7/4/2015 12:56 pm : link
So informative.
I just love posters who criticize someone...  
Klaatu : 7/4/2015 1:25 pm : link
For trying to get a discussion going on a slow day.

Anyway...one guy who's rarely mentioned when we're talking offense is Rashad Jennings. He was signed to be our featured back, as much for his receiving as his running, but he seems to be something of an afterthought now, especially in comparison with Shane Vereen. However, as long as he stays healthy, he'll most likely get the majority of carries. If anyone is going to suffer with Vereen on the team, I figure it's going to be Andre Williams, who may end up relegated to short-yardage duties only.
You can't overlook DRC when discussing defensive talent.  
Torrag : 7/4/2015 9:15 pm : link
He had a lame leg most of last season. When he is right physically he is a gifted athlete and a really good football player.
Torreg  
George from PA : 7/5/2015 7:44 am : link
Agree....DRC is one of our top 10 talents. I put Prince ahead due to better tackling
The D  
Jay in Toronto : 7/5/2015 9:15 am : link
besides he transition to Spag's D, I think the most significant factor is our starting CBs stay injury-free
Pivotal year for Prince Amukamara.  
Klaatu : 7/5/2015 10:07 am : link
If he gets injured again and misses a considerable amount of time...again...I can't see the Giants making anything more than a token effort to re-sign him. They'd be better off using their free agent money to sign a vet who's much more durable. In addition, I'd bet real money that they do for CB in the 2016 draft what they did for Safety in 2015 - use a premium pick on one, and a mid-round pick on another.
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