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NFT: Knicks Chat! RoLo and Williams are Knick

DanMetroMan : 7/4/2015 9:37 am
The Knicks have reportedly come to an agreement with Derrick Williams on a two-year, $10 million deal.
The Knicks are grasping at straws hoping that Williams can contribute meaningfully at the NBA level. Outside of dunks and the occasional 3-pointer, Williams struggles across the board at every other aspect of the game. Even if he was granted significant minutes in New York, he should not be on the radar in standard leagues.
Source: Chris Broussard on Twitter Jul 3 - 10:48 PM
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RE: RE: Frank  
Jon in NYC : 7/4/2015 3:40 pm : link
In comment 12356157 AnotherGiantsFan said:
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In comment 12356139 Jon in NYC said:


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is balling out right now in the summer league



Lol, 1-5 and 2 points is balling out?


BALLING.

OUT.
Would've loved Bismack at that  
giantsfan44ab : 7/4/2015 3:47 pm : link
That was essentially our MLE. Magic now have Vucevic, Gordon, Harris, Frye, Dedmon and even Harkless to an extent sharing time at the 4 and 5. I'd throw an offer sheet out just in hope that the magic don't see him as someone that might get many minutes for them.
Winslow zero rebounds  
Deej : 7/4/2015 3:59 pm : link
in his debut. Stanimal 13-4r-3a assists. Aaron Gordon a monster 22-18r-2a. Frank 2-9 but 9 rebounds in 15 mins.
How is the summer league staring alreadt when FA just began?  
robbieballs2003 : 7/4/2015 4:15 pm : link
When is the Knicks first summer league game? I think someone said July 11?
Yeah  
Giantfootball025 : 7/4/2015 4:22 pm : link
The Vegas Summer League runs from July 10 - 20.
Wow  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/4/2015 4:25 pm : link
Frank the Tank is officially balling out now.

7-14 19 points and 10 boards in 21 minutes
Lakers  
jamesmichaelworm : 7/4/2015 5:58 pm : link
Looking to trade for Roy Hibbert yikes!!! Remember when everyone overrated Hibbert. Now he's being threatened to be benched by the pacers. And the desperate Lakers after striking out in free agency might take him. How the might have fallen. Tyson Chandler should be embarrassed for being abused by this guy in the playoffs.
Link - ( New Window )
Roy Hibbert has a theme song  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/4/2015 6:42 pm : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSJp1dgk_2s
Derrick Willams Draft bio  
blueblood : 7/4/2015 7:03 pm : link
NBA Draft.Net
Williams - ( New Window )
Yes!!!  
Jon in NYC : 7/4/2015 7:06 pm : link
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Sources: Free agent Kyle OQuinn has agreed to a four-year, $16M deal with New York. Knicks acquire him in sign-and-trade with Orlando.
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Really. Sign and Trade?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/4/2015 7:13 pm : link
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Details  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/4/2015 7:13 pm : link
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4m4 minutes ago
Sources: As part of O'Quinn sign-and-trade, New York will send Orlando cash and the right of swap a second-round draft pick in 2019.
Hey, local guy! Jamaica Queens  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/4/2015 7:14 pm : link
Always love the local guys.
Nice offseason  
Headhunter : 7/4/2015 7:15 pm : link
Nice pieces. The NY Daily News who have an ongoing vendetta with Jim Dolan will harp on all the big names that Phil Jackson and his 11 rings were snubbed by. I think this has been a great job by Phil Jackson
Lol, Overall Draft Net score of 99  
manh george : 7/4/2015 7:15 pm : link
Higher than everyone this year except Mudiay, who is also 99. Porzingas is 96. Hernangomez is a 90. Williams got a top score for "NBA ready."

"Williams blend of size and his pure talent scoring the ball on offense will make him a viable option in the NBA."


Here's hoping he can be a decent 3-4 backup, who just needed time to mature. He did play better at the end of last year, and he certainly should be motivated.
O'Quinn  
Phil in LA : 7/4/2015 7:20 pm : link
is tough and aggressive. This is getting fun.
O'Quinn  
manh george : 7/4/2015 7:20 pm : link
"Over a five-game stretch with Nikola Vučević out with a back injury between December 2 and December 12, O'Quinn started all five games and subsequently averaged 15.4 points and 6.8 rebounds per game."


Can he play backup center at all?

We are clearly going to need a minimum salary center. Aldrich?
Nice work, Phil!  
bceagle05 : 7/4/2015 7:20 pm : link
Hope he's enjoying a dog and a beer this evening.
YES! Love the Phil!  
Anakim : 7/4/2015 7:25 pm : link
Nice job getting O'Quinn for basically nothing and extending him. Enjoy your break, Phil. You've earned it
He can back up  
Phil in LA : 7/4/2015 7:25 pm : link
Lopez at the 5, too.
Quinn is another nice pick up.  
charlito : 7/4/2015 7:29 pm : link
Phil is doing work! Forget all the haters.
So our lineup is set?  
Canton : 7/4/2015 7:32 pm : link
No more money left, right?
Knicks finally have a plan  
mfsd : 7/4/2015 7:35 pm : link
We're tougher and more athletic than we were 3 days ago. Screw anyone who's pissed that we didn't get the shiny
4 years  
TommyWiseau : 7/4/2015 7:36 pm : link
At 4 mil per? May be my favorite acquisition of this FA period. Phil doing work. We still have that 2.8 mil to use right?
Great trade  
Deej : 7/4/2015 7:37 pm : link
Seriously, cash and a swap of #2s? Wow.
RE: So our lineup is set?  
nygiants16 : 7/4/2015 7:40 pm : link
In comment 12356244 Canton said:
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No more money left, right?


2.8 million exception
Do we have some board crashers and a better defense  
Canton : 7/4/2015 7:46 pm : link
We could make some noise. This should be a fun season with no expectations.
Jon, Italian  
giantsfan44ab : 7/4/2015 7:47 pm : link
And whoever else was bullish on O'Quinn deserves some credit for this. Guarantee you Phil was scouring through New York area sports forums for some ideas.
Awesome  
Giantology : 7/4/2015 7:48 pm : link
!!!!
So high on Quinn  
Deej : 7/4/2015 7:51 pm : link
I really think that in 3 years people are just going to be scratching their heads about how we got him for $4 million. I think he's going to be hugely productive.
I think draft night was a turning point for us.  
bceagle05 : 7/4/2015 7:55 pm : link
Better days are ahead.
he is probably the Knicks starting pf  
nygiants16 : 7/4/2015 7:58 pm : link
The question do Knicks use the exception for a back up 5 or try to find another shooter...

Calderon/grant
Afflalo/Galloway/ledo
Melo/early/thanasis
O'Quinn/williams
Lopez/porzingis
...  
bceagle05 : 7/4/2015 8:04 pm : link
I think either  
giantsfan44ab : 7/4/2015 8:04 pm : link
The Knicks don't start O'Quinn or sit RoLo or O'Quinn separately so one of them is always on the floor. Hopefully bring back Aldrich to get some more depth and a few minutes a game.
I hope we re-sign Aldrich and Shved  
Anakim : 7/4/2015 8:05 pm : link
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Can we still use the trade exceptions  
Phil in LA : 7/4/2015 8:06 pm : link
or are they unusable because we're back up to the cap?
Between oquinn  
Jon in NYC : 7/4/2015 8:06 pm : link
zinger, Williams and Melo there are plenty of minutes to be had at the 4. We need one more wing and then call it a day. Afflalo is going to need to put up big scoring numbers.
RE: I hope we re-sign Aldrich and Shved  
bceagle05 : 7/4/2015 8:07 pm : link
In comment 12356264 Anakim said:
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Same here. Phil said he didn't want to change the WHOLE team. Shved and Aldrich know the system and are useful parts.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have O'Quinn and RoLo at 18 M  
Anakim : 7/4/2015 8:24 pm : link
than Monroe at 16 M. For a team whose biggest achilles heel was defense, we just got two great defenders as opposed to a guy who was just offense.



I also am pumped about Derrick Williams. It's hard not to get excited when you read that scouting report...and the guy is still 24. He could still realize his potential.


Bring on the Summer League!
Pretty pumped  
Big Rick in FL : 7/4/2015 8:25 pm : link
About free agency & the draft. Finally it seems this team is being built the right way. Hopefully somehow Phil can lure an All-Star or a guy with All-Star potential in next year. If Grant & Porzingis do enough to justify their draft position & we get one more star player I think we can make a nice playoff run in 2016. Melo & one more star, plus the two young draft picks & a decent amount of depth. I could see us finishing in the top 4 in the East.
If Porzingis is the goods...  
bceagle05 : 7/4/2015 8:30 pm : link
Look out.
shved  
GMEN46 : 7/4/2015 8:32 pm : link
I really them to resign shved. I really like his game a lot. He is very crafty, reminds me of a poor mans Manu ginolbli. Obvious needs to add some muscle, but showed a lot of skill and high Bball IQ.
RE: Pretty pumped  
Anakim : 7/4/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12356272 Big Rick in FL said:
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About free agency & the draft. Finally it seems this team is being built the right way. Hopefully somehow Phil can lure an All-Star or a guy with All-Star potential in next year. If Grant & Porzingis do enough to justify their draft position & we get one more star player I think we can make a nice playoff run in 2016. Melo & one more star, plus the two young draft picks & a decent amount of depth. I could see us finishing in the top 4 in the East.


Only thing missing is our first rounder (and our second rounder). Can't believe we gave it up for Andrea Bargnani. The NBA should force the Raptors to return the pick for sheer stupidity alone. God, if we lose a lottery pick for Bargnani, I will legit. throw up.
RE: Jon, Italian  
AnotherGiantsFan : 7/4/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12356253 giantsfan44ab said:
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And whoever else was bullish on O'Quinn deserves some credit for this. Guarantee you Phil was scouring through New York area sports forums for some ideas.


Sarcasm, right?
Anak  
Big Rick in FL : 7/4/2015 8:38 pm : link
Yeah that really does suck. I don't think it's going to be that high this year anyway. I think we finish somewhere between the 6-8 seed. So we could probably buy a pick around that area or give up a Hardaway Jr type player for a top 20 pick hahahaha what a trade.
the best part  
nygiants16 : 7/4/2015 8:40 pm : link
The onlybreal aging vet role player is calderon..


The vets they have signed are young
Great job by Phil  
jeffro1 : 7/4/2015 8:47 pm : link
I'd like to finish up with another big man and a shooter. Thinking withey and Alan Anderson.
put me down  
TommyWiseau : 7/4/2015 8:57 pm : link
For bringing Shved and Aldrich back. We may be a work in progress but it sure is going to be a fun team to watch develop
This projected lineup doesn't wotk  
Torrag : 7/4/2015 9:00 pm : link
O'Quinn/williams
Lopez/porzingis

You can't list Porz to get mins at the 5 yet. It isn't going to happen for a while. As in years.
Phil has done solid work  
Torrag : 7/4/2015 9:06 pm : link
We have a team built intelligently for a change. Keep making smart moves and this can possibly get turned around a little faster than anticipated. It's still going to take a couple seasons and KP has to deliver down the line or we'll be a pretender rather than a contender.

For the first time in ages I am looking toward the future with optimism. I never believed in Woodson or the makeup of those rosters.
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