how much of a perfect addition to this team would be a left-handed hitting outfielder that could platoon with Lagares in CF some and I can't help but think of Nimmo at some point. I think they could make a great platoon actually. Our modern day Dykstra and Mookie.
Conforto in LF. Nimmo/Lagares in CF. Upton/Cespedes in RF. ;)
They need a platoon guy now though - this year and probably next w TJS
lingering. kids aren't the answer to adding wins in the short term. Parra would, but IMO Gomez is the perfect buy low guy to add now because Upton/Cespedes are likely too expensive with Cuddyer/Granderson still on the books.
Get Gomez, play him at all 3 OF spots, and then hopefully resign him as Cuddyer's contract is ending. Maybe Granderson will even be tradeable at that point since he'll only have 1 year left. You'd also have a lot more clarity on David Wright's situation 18 months from now when his current contract ends.
lingering. kids aren't the answer to adding wins in the short term. Parra would, but IMO Gomez is the perfect buy low guy to add now because Upton/Cespedes are likely too expensive with Cuddyer/Granderson still on the books.
Get Gomez, play him at all 3 OF spots, and then hopefully resign him as Cuddyer's contract is ending. Maybe Granderson will even be tradeable at that point since he'll only have 1 year left. You'd also have a lot more clarity on David Wright's situation 18 months from now when his current contract ends.
Im not sure about Gomez. He's hitting his 30s and is having a pretty bad year. If he were brought in, I think you have to play him in CF to capitalize on his value. His bat wouldn't play up in a corner. With Niese, Gee, Colon, Murphy likely all coming off the books the Mets could absolutely make a play for Upton/Cespedes. Upton might get 200 million but Cespedes might only get half that. Either way the Mets should have the wiggle room to make a play if they really want. Conforto could impact that however. If he finishes Vegas this year raking and is pronounced "ready" and Granderson is coming off a "Upton like" season a 2016 outfield of Conforto-Lagares/Nimmo-Granderson doesn't look all that bad. We'll see what happens.
As for right now. I still like going after somebody like Parra to share time with Lagares or maybe somebody like Brock Holt. Seems like a much safer play. Gomez scares me.
can apparently make it back from Tommy John in 6-8 months. If Lagares has it the day the season ends we might get him back pretty early in the season next year and Im hoping Nimmo can share some time there. A guy like Parra would be a nice 4th outfielder to have around for that also.
to Upton and they have 5 more years on Wright, what are the odds they resign any of their top 5 pitchers? 0 %
This thing with Wright likely only gets worst over the coming years and possibly some of that money is coming back from insurance. We don't need to sign a single starter until 2019 in Harvey and Im almost thinking its a forgone conclusion he's walking anyway. The other guys aren't hitting FA until like 2022. We have a long time before we have to worry about it really.
With young guys like Herrera, Cechinni, Conforto, and Nimmo we actually should be able to keep the payroll down for the next few years. I also think if we are in it down the stretch this year fans are going to be coming out to Citified. We are already shattering attendance numbers this year compared to the last few seasons. I think the team's payroll will continue to go up as the coffers get replenished.
If they have the budget to be in on Cespedes or Upton
I'd agree 100% and Gomez wouldn't make sense. I tend to doubt they will be looking to spend 150M+ though until they know the deal with Wright, and I see no way he doesn't give it a go next season. You'd definitely need that much $ for Upton, may also need that for Cespedes. Choo got 130M the same year Peralta seemed overpaid at 50M, so I think it's safe to say inflation may take Cespedes pretty high.
Gomez has been worth 2x the WAR of either of those guys over the past 2 years and he's signed reasonably for next year. If I knew the budget was going to be tight next offseason with Wright in limbo I'd be going very hard for him right now.
also Gomez two career years. His career numbers aren't that impressive and in his 30's now I worry about his ability to be able to play a gold glove caliber CF and steal bases (where most of his value came from).
I think the Upton sweepstakes might get a little crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if we made a play. Sandy has had a hard on for him in the past. Cespedes should get much less but we are still talking 100 million obviously. I actually think Gomez will get close to that too and I think somebody will paying Gomez on the downside of his career. With Lagares/Nimmo Id rather go after Cespedes. And like I said who knows? Granderson is having a very good year. If he keeps it up all year and Conforto is ready we might not even need to make a move.
Probably because our bumbling manager flat out said he likely needs it. But your right they could go the rest and rehab route. I think he should get it done personally. He isn't that essential to our team that being out for a couple months in 2016 kills us either way.
still pisses me off. If the asshole and his agent just accepted his demotion to AAA(He cleared waivers) he's likely killing it in Vegas and is a real option right now with Cuddyer slumping so bad. Instead he's been banished to Siberia and we likely never see him again.
still pisses me off. If the asshole and his agent just accepted his demotion to AAA(He cleared waivers) he's likely killing it in Vegas and is a real option right now with Cuddyer slumping so bad. Instead he's been banished to Siberia and we likely never see him again.
Ohhhh mannnn, you had to rile me up again on this shit??
still pisses me off. If the asshole and his agent just accepted his demotion to AAA(He cleared waivers) he's likely killing it in Vegas and is a real option right now with Cuddyer slumping so bad. Instead he's been banished to Siberia and we likely never see him again.
Ohhhh mannnn, you had to rile me up again on this shit??
LOL. Sorry Shecky. Im sure the Mets prefer out of sight out of mind, but I haven't forgot! :)
still pisses me off. If the asshole and his agent just accepted his demotion to AAA(He cleared waivers) he's likely killing it in Vegas and is a real option right now with Cuddyer slumping so bad. Instead he's been banished to Siberia and we likely never see him again.
Is that guy still on the DL doing nothing? What a bum.
He might just be yet another AAAA bat though.
Obviously can't prove it but I doubt he's even injured. He pissed off the wrong people one too many times. He had a very small micro fracture and was thought to be out only a short while. We literally have not heard a single report, rehab update, nothing... and we are in July now.
He screwed over the organization and the betterment of the team over a few lousy bucks so he could get placed on the ML DL, not the AAA DL. I think the Mets said, you want to be injured at the major league level? Fine. Fuck you then. We could use your 40 man spot anyway.
First we would have to clear a 40 spot which we are in very short supply of and then we would have to try to re-pass him through waivers again. It would be a huge headache. The first step was transferring him to the 60 day DL to clear a spot, next will be season ending and there isn't shit he or his agent can do about it. They fought to prove he was injured in spring training so technically the Mets haven't done anything wrong.
Angels are looking for a lefty OF, I'd offer them Andy for Aybar. Fixes our SS situation for this year and next, cuts payroll by $8mm next year and frees up $16mm year after.
Then I call the Twins and pick up Oswaldo Arcio for cheap. Platoon him with Cuddyer in LF.
Then pick up Josh Reddick for RF.
All doable. Nothing too expensive to acquire. Nothing expensive dollar wise. Nothing long term for future flexibility. I'd complete each trade and announce them the second tonight's game is over.
I'm done playing GM for the day, and I'll invoice Alderson for the advice if he's reading this...
Angels are looking for a lefty OF, I'd offer them Andy for Aybar. Fixes our SS situation for this year and next, cuts payroll by $8mm next year and frees up $16mm year after.
Then I call the Twins and pick up Oswaldo Arcio for cheap. Platoon him with Cuddyer in LF.
Then pick up Josh Reddick for RF.
All doable. Nothing too expensive to acquire. Nothing expensive dollar wise. Nothing long term for future flexibility. I'd complete each trade and announce them the second tonight's game is over.
I'm done playing GM for the day, and I'll invoice Alderson for the advice if he's reading this...
I like it. Granderson for Aybar might be hard to pull off though. I'd love to go after Reddick this year.
Kirk is exactly what people mean when they call guys "AAAA" players. He's going to hit every time he goes to LV but he can't hit here. How many times now has the guy been "hot" in AAA only to come up here and shit the bed? I feel like we have seen this movie 5 times already. At least.
How about the GM tries to get a Major League caliber 4th OFer on this roster so that we don't need to keep doing this? It shouldn't be that hard. If you can't do that, then just call up Conforto. Watching these putrid minor league lifers continue to get AB's on a daily basis is legitimately insulting. Enough. It's tiresome.
Kirk is exactly what people mean when they call guys "AAAA" players. He's going to hit every time he goes to LV but he can't hit here. How many times now has the guy been "hot" in AAA only to come up here and shit the bed? I feel like we have seen this movie 5 times already. At least.
No disrespect, I just don't get where this comes from. Kirk was very good last year. I get he sucked early this season though.
Kirk is exactly what people mean when they call guys "AAAA" players. He's going to hit every time he goes to LV but he can't hit here. How many times now has the guy been "hot" in AAA only to come up here and shit the bed? I feel like we have seen this movie 5 times already. At least.
No disrespect, I just don't get where this comes from. Kirk was very good last year. I get he sucked early this season though.
He's a career .226, .666 OPS player who is hitting .100 this year in 37 MLB games. .100
How about the GM tries to get a Major League caliber 4th OFer on this roster so that we don't need to keep doing this? It shouldn't be that hard. If you can't do that, then just call up Conforto. Watching these putrid minor league lifers continue to get AB's on a daily basis is legitimately insulting. Enough. It's tiresome.
Bottom line is this... everyone blames the owners... and they SUCK but the GM hasn't done his job. People can attack me and defend him all you want but 100% of the Sandy defense is how patient he is... patience only gets you so far... how about the waiver wire? How about minor moves? Relying on crap to suddenly not be crap is silly
How about the GM tries to get a Major League caliber 4th OFer on this roster so that we don't need to keep doing this? It shouldn't be that hard. If you can't do that, then just call up Conforto. Watching these putrid minor league lifers continue to get AB's on a daily basis is legitimately insulting. Enough. It's tiresome.
Bottom line is this... everyone blames the owners... and they SUCK but the GM hasn't done his job. People can attack me and defend him all you want but 100% of the Sandy defense is how patient he is... patience only gets you so far... how about the waiver wire? How about minor moves? Relying on crap to suddenly not be crap is silly
I agree. There are still ways to improve the roster on a restricted budget. No one is saying the guy has to make a blockbuster trade but the best GM's are the ones who find ways to be creative and add pieces. Alderson seems content just waiting for prospects to develop and not being proactive. The guy is ridiculously passive.
Again.. no one says he's got to go out and panic and trade Thor for Tulo. But you can't even add a 4th OFer or improve the bench? Gimmie a fucking break.
Creativity has been a sticking point against Alderson
this is why most Mets "arguments" end up being so annoying. NOBODY is saying trade Thor or Matz for Starlin Castro but I am 10000000000000000000000000% positive there are 4th OFers available for FAR less than that are better than Kirk N.
Bitched about was a LOOGY all spring and Sandy brought in two guys. Who was a waiver claim this year? Dominguez? There just isn't a lot of activity until July. I mean Sandy just held a press conference to announce they are being aggressive and have the money to bring in a significant player right now. Id be surprised if he doesn't make a couple moves to bolster the team quite frankly. And up until this year means nothing to me. We were never competing before 2015 anyway with Harvey out last year.
Bitched about was a LOOGY all spring and Sandy brought in two guys. Who was a waiver claim this year? Dominguez? There just isn't a lot of activity until July. I mean Sandy just held a press conference to announce they are being aggressive and have the money to bring in a significant player right now. Id be surprised if he doesn't make a couple moves to bolster the team quite frankly. And up until this year means nothing to me. We were never competing before 2015 anyway with Harvey out last year.
It's been 3+ years of being one of the LEAST active on the waiver wire (when you are bad you get better claims) and the fewest trades. Why not churn through guys and maybe find a gem? Beane ROUTINELY does this.
Conforto in LF. Nimmo/Lagares in CF. Upton/Cespedes in RF. ;)
Get Gomez, play him at all 3 OF spots, and then hopefully resign him as Cuddyer's contract is ending. Maybe Granderson will even be tradeable at that point since he'll only have 1 year left. You'd also have a lot more clarity on David Wright's situation 18 months from now when his current contract ends.
1st - Duda
2nd - Herrera
SS - Tejada (possibly a different name)
3rd - Flores
RF - Grandy
LF - Cuddy
CF- Parra (with Lags out)
Maybe a new bench player.
Get Gomez, play him at all 3 OF spots, and then hopefully resign him as Cuddyer's contract is ending. Maybe Granderson will even be tradeable at that point since he'll only have 1 year left. You'd also have a lot more clarity on David Wright's situation 18 months from now when his current contract ends.
Im not sure about Gomez. He's hitting his 30s and is having a pretty bad year. If he were brought in, I think you have to play him in CF to capitalize on his value. His bat wouldn't play up in a corner. With Niese, Gee, Colon, Murphy likely all coming off the books the Mets could absolutely make a play for Upton/Cespedes. Upton might get 200 million but Cespedes might only get half that. Either way the Mets should have the wiggle room to make a play if they really want. Conforto could impact that however. If he finishes Vegas this year raking and is pronounced "ready" and Granderson is coming off a "Upton like" season a 2016 outfield of Conforto-Lagares/Nimmo-Granderson doesn't look all that bad. We'll see what happens.
As for right now. I still like going after somebody like Parra to share time with Lagares or maybe somebody like Brock Holt. Seems like a much safer play. Gomez scares me.
This thing with Wright likely only gets worst over the coming years and possibly some of that money is coming back from insurance. We don't need to sign a single starter until 2019 in Harvey and Im almost thinking its a forgone conclusion he's walking anyway. The other guys aren't hitting FA until like 2022. We have a long time before we have to worry about it really.
With young guys like Herrera, Cechinni, Conforto, and Nimmo we actually should be able to keep the payroll down for the next few years. I also think if we are in it down the stretch this year fans are going to be coming out to Citified. We are already shattering attendance numbers this year compared to the last few seasons. I think the team's payroll will continue to go up as the coffers get replenished.
Gomez has been worth 2x the WAR of either of those guys over the past 2 years and he's signed reasonably for next year. If I knew the budget was going to be tight next offseason with Wright in limbo I'd be going very hard for him right now.
I think the Upton sweepstakes might get a little crazy but I wouldn't be surprised if we made a play. Sandy has had a hard on for him in the past. Cespedes should get much less but we are still talking 100 million obviously. I actually think Gomez will get close to that too and I think somebody will paying Gomez on the downside of his career. With Lagares/Nimmo Id rather go after Cespedes. And like I said who knows? Granderson is having a very good year. If he keeps it up all year and Conforto is ready we might not even need to make a move.
Probably because our bumbling manager flat out said he likely needs it. But your right they could go the rest and rehab route. I think he should get it done personally. He isn't that essential to our team that being out for a couple months in 2016 kills us either way.
Ohhhh mannnn, you had to rile me up again on this shit??
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still pisses me off. If the asshole and his agent just accepted his demotion to AAA(He cleared waivers) he's likely killing it in Vegas and is a real option right now with Cuddyer slumping so bad. Instead he's been banished to Siberia and we likely never see him again.
Ohhhh mannnn, you had to rile me up again on this shit??
LOL. Sorry Shecky. Im sure the Mets prefer out of sight out of mind, but I haven't forgot! :)
Is that guy still on the DL doing nothing? What a bum.
He might just be yet another AAAA bat though.
He screwed over the organization and the betterment of the team over a few lousy bucks so he could get placed on the ML DL, not the AAA DL. I think the Mets said, you want to be injured at the major league level? Fine. Fuck you then. We could use your 40 man spot anyway.
Angels are looking for a lefty OF, I'd offer them Andy for Aybar. Fixes our SS situation for this year and next, cuts payroll by $8mm next year and frees up $16mm year after.
Then I call the Twins and pick up Oswaldo Arcio for cheap. Platoon him with Cuddyer in LF.
Then pick up Josh Reddick for RF.
All doable. Nothing too expensive to acquire. Nothing expensive dollar wise. Nothing long term for future flexibility. I'd complete each trade and announce them the second tonight's game is over.
I'm done playing GM for the day, and I'll invoice Alderson for the advice if he's reading this...
Angels are looking for a lefty OF, I'd offer them Andy for Aybar. Fixes our SS situation for this year and next, cuts payroll by $8mm next year and frees up $16mm year after.
Then I call the Twins and pick up Oswaldo Arcio for cheap. Platoon him with Cuddyer in LF.
Then pick up Josh Reddick for RF.
All doable. Nothing too expensive to acquire. Nothing expensive dollar wise. Nothing long term for future flexibility. I'd complete each trade and announce them the second tonight's game is over.
I'm done playing GM for the day, and I'll invoice Alderson for the advice if he's reading this...
I like it. Granderson for Aybar might be hard to pull off though. I'd love to go after Reddick this year.
Grandy. I thought the same thing lol
Kirk Nieuwenhuis getting promoted to #Mets
Kirk Nieuwenhuis getting promoted to #Mets
What's the corresponding move? Also have make room for Mejia after tonight. Ceciliani gone?
Kirk Nieuwenhuis getting promoted to #Mets
LOL. Just fucking laughable at this point. The guy sucks. Go get a MLB-level 4th OFer please. This is insulting.
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What's the corresponding move? Also have make room for Mejia after tonight. Ceciliani gone?
Cuddy DL??
Round of applause.
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LOL. Just fucking laughable at this point. The guy sucks. Go get a MLB-level 4th OFer please. This is insulting.
Well somebody has to replicate Moises Cuddyer's ground-into-double-plays.
No disrespect, I just don't get where this comes from. Kirk was very good last year. I get he sucked early this season though.
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Kirk is exactly what people mean when they call guys "AAAA" players. He's going to hit every time he goes to LV but he can't hit here. How many times now has the guy been "hot" in AAA only to come up here and shit the bed? I feel like we have seen this movie 5 times already. At least.
No disrespect, I just don't get where this comes from. Kirk was very good last year. I get he sucked early this season though.
He's a career .226, .666 OPS player who is hitting .100 this year in 37 MLB games. .100
He's not good. It's time to move on.
Bottom line is this... everyone blames the owners... and they SUCK but the GM hasn't done his job. People can attack me and defend him all you want but 100% of the Sandy defense is how patient he is... patience only gets you so far... how about the waiver wire? How about minor moves? Relying on crap to suddenly not be crap is silly
I like yours just think it might be tricky to pull off. Give me Parra and Prado and I think I'm good. Reddick would be sweet too though.
He's like 2/22 this week
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How about the GM tries to get a Major League caliber 4th OFer on this roster so that we don't need to keep doing this? It shouldn't be that hard. If you can't do that, then just call up Conforto. Watching these putrid minor league lifers continue to get AB's on a daily basis is legitimately insulting. Enough. It's tiresome.
Bottom line is this... everyone blames the owners... and they SUCK but the GM hasn't done his job. People can attack me and defend him all you want but 100% of the Sandy defense is how patient he is... patience only gets you so far... how about the waiver wire? How about minor moves? Relying on crap to suddenly not be crap is silly
I agree. There are still ways to improve the roster on a restricted budget. No one is saying the guy has to make a blockbuster trade but the best GM's are the ones who find ways to be creative and add pieces. Alderson seems content just waiting for prospects to develop and not being proactive. The guy is ridiculously passive.
Again.. no one says he's got to go out and panic and trade Thor for Tulo. But you can't even add a 4th OFer or improve the bench? Gimmie a fucking break.
It's been 3+ years of being one of the LEAST active on the waiver wire (when you are bad you get better claims) and the fewest trades. Why not churn through guys and maybe find a gem? Beane ROUTINELY does this.