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Latest from ESPN Seems Somewhat Positive on JPP

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/5/2015 11:19 pm
FYI...most other news outlets are now referencing Graziano's update.
Jason Pierre-Paul Suffers Hand Injury in Fireworks Accident - ( New Window )
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RE: The team has every right to remain  
Kulish29 : 7/6/2015 11:58 am : link
In comment 12357860 Lithium said:
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silent. Let that idiot think about the situation he got himself into by being a complete moron. If they pull the offer, good riddance.


Hey jelly schoolgirl! You're still posting you're idiocy huh?
RE: RE: The team has every right to remain  
Lithium : 7/6/2015 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12357864 Kulish29 said:
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In comment 12357860 Lithium said:


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silent. Let that idiot think about the situation he got himself into by being a complete moron. If they pull the offer, good riddance.



Hey jelly schoolgirl! You're still posting you're idiocy huh?


I must be the only one calling for the team to show a set and pull the tender. I also notice you seem to have some sort of infatuation for me. It's flattering.
....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 7/6/2015 12:05 pm : link
The reports range from burned some skin to possibly losing the hand. Best to stay silent
.  
pjcas18 : 7/6/2015 12:05 pm : link
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Insider Buzz: Giants 'Not Likely' to Rescind Jason Pierre-Paul's Franchise Tag


according to the report the injury isn't likely season threatening.


LInk - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: The team has every right to remain  
Kulish29 : 7/6/2015 12:06 pm : link
In comment 12357870 Lithium said:
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In comment 12357864 Kulish29 said:


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In comment 12357860 Lithium said:


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silent. Let that idiot think about the situation he got himself into by being a complete moron. If they pull the offer, good riddance.



Hey jelly schoolgirl! You're still posting you're idiocy huh?



I must be the only one calling for the team to show a set and pull the tender. I also notice you seem to have some sort of infatuation for me. It's flattering.


No. You're just the only idiot who keeps posting the same comment, over and over again. You're also the only one who posted something so idiotic it can only mean 1 of 2 things, you're either a racist or, just a jealous moron.

Troll on troll!
i hope its ...  
Hem Roid : 7/6/2015 12:08 pm : link
not the hand he wipes his ass with ...
pjcas18  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/6/2015 12:08 pm : link
Thanks...that's the most informative update today.
We a great start to the upcoming Giant  
Johnny Boy : 7/6/2015 12:08 pm : link
season. At least it re-directs you from that other disaster......the starting Giant Offensive line.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The team has every right to remain  
Lithium : 7/6/2015 12:09 pm : link
In comment 12357879 Kulish29 said:
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In comment 12357870 Lithium said:


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In comment 12357864 Kulish29 said:


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In comment 12357860 Lithium said:


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silent. Let that idiot think about the situation he got himself into by being a complete moron. If they pull the offer, good riddance.



Hey jelly schoolgirl! You're still posting you're idiocy huh?



I must be the only one calling for the team to show a set and pull the tender. I also notice you seem to have some sort of infatuation for me. It's flattering.



No. You're just the only idiot who keeps posting the same comment, over and over again. You're also the only one who posted something so idiotic it can only mean 1 of 2 things, you're either a racist or, just a jealous moron.

Troll on troll!


Back to the racist panty raiders. Gold chain=racist remark. I can't imagine living in your fantasyland world.
RE: We a great start to the upcoming Giant  
Lithium : 7/6/2015 12:11 pm : link
In comment 12357885 Johnny Boy said:
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season. At least it re-directs you from that other disaster......the starting Giant Offensive line.


Join my hand and others from BBI - No worries, all is well; no worries, all is well; no worries, all is well.
He's burned the shit out of his hand.  
RAIN : 7/6/2015 12:12 pm : link
Skin is tricky. Nerves are tricky. This isn't a straight forward thing, methinks. The giants are wisely being quiet. Get all the facts. Plan the response.

His pain management is the thing here. He's likely in a bunch. Accidents happen, and this one is silly beyond belief, .. but Good luck JPP.
I feel like this is more indicative  
larryflower37 : 7/6/2015 12:24 pm : link
of the people around him. He is a 26 year old kid.
This is a time where a role model or strong figure makes all the difference.
Someone that say "let the other idiots blow shit up, you have a career to worry about"

Problem is most of the players that get in trouble have no one to whisper in their ear that's probably not a smart move, instead they have jealous hanger on's encouraging poor behavior.
RE: He's burned the shit out of his hand.  
giantgiantfan : 7/6/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12357893 RAIN said:
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Skin is tricky. Nerves are tricky. This isn't a straight forward thing, methinks. The giants are wisely being quiet. Get all the facts. Plan the response.

His pain management is the thing here. He's likely in a bunch. Accidents happen, and this one is silly beyond belief, .. but Good luck JPP.


True, gotta be on morphine I'd think. Most people have had at least second degree burns before and know how painful that is. JPP likely has minimum 3rd and possibly 4th degree burns.
RE: RE: A lot of you folks are being very dramatic  
giantgiantfan : 7/6/2015 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12357827 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 12357763 giantgiantfan said:


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like "why would he risk it all over fireworks" or "why not hire a professional." Look, I'm assuming many of you don't live in states where you can buy fireworks and set them off legally. Every since I moved to Utah from New York I've been setting off fireworks. It's fun. I even do it drunk, sometimes very drunk. It's a simple process, you light and run.

I've never hurt myself doing it. I've never seen one of my equally drunk friends hurt themselves doing this. You act like these guys should stay in their houses and train for football non-stop. I think its badass he rented a Uhaul and filled it with fireworks. If I had large amounts of money thats probably exactly what I would do.

For all we know this was a freak accident where a firework exploded weird or early and hit his hand. He could have also been holding it to set it off...which would be dumb. The point is stop being your parents.



If you moved to Utah, you're obviously an idiot :)


Could be worse, not so bad if you're in downtown Salt Lake :-) Where you located?
RE: WFAN  
mitch300 : 7/6/2015 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12357593 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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starting off with the Mets after JPP almost blows off his hand ,I swear this station sucks and its not even a mets station anymore thats the funny thing

Driving in to work I heard them say that Garafalo was going to be on @10:40 for an update. Swamped at work and didn't get a chance to listen.
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BlueHurricane : 7/6/2015 12:33 pm : link
RE: ...  
mitch300 : 7/6/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12357794 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan þ@JordanRaanan 55s55 seconds ago

Fact that JPP remains in hospital 36 hrs or so after accident tells you damage not minor #Giants

I'm sure because of the burns he's on IV antibiotics which alone will keep you in the hospital.Let's hope that's the only reason he's still there.
mitch300: I heard some of that not realizing it was Garofalo.  
Victor in CT : 7/6/2015 12:37 pm : link
Didn't really have too much report. All speculation at this point.
i think ...  
Hem Roid : 7/6/2015 12:38 pm : link
he is just a late sleeper, and is the reason he has yet to discharge ...
but I would imagine he will have a hard time getting a  
Victor in CT : 7/6/2015 12:39 pm : link
finger tip on the ball to block a FG going forward. ;-)
This is way its taking so long  
larryflower37 : 7/6/2015 12:44 pm : link
. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic man. Jason Pierre Paul will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster.
RE: A lot of you folks are being very dramatic  
Mason : 7/6/2015 12:46 pm : link
In comment 12357763 giantgiantfan said:
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like "why would he risk it all over fireworks" or "why not hire a professional." Look, I'm assuming many of you don't live in states where you can buy fireworks and set them off legally. Every since I moved to Utah from New York I've been setting off fireworks. It's fun. I even do it drunk, sometimes very drunk. It's a simple process, you light and run.

I've never hurt myself doing it. I've never seen one of my equally drunk friends hurt themselves doing this. You act like these guys should stay in their houses and train for football non-stop. I think its badass he rented a Uhaul and filled it with fireworks. If I had large amounts of money thats probably exactly what I would do.

For all we know this was a freak accident where a firework exploded weird or early and hit his hand. He could have also been holding it to set it off...which would be dumb. The point is stop being your parents.


So basically just another day in the great state of

I  
blue42 : 7/6/2015 12:47 pm : link
would think this kind of stuff is in violation of his contract.If he needs surgery he could miss the entire season.
RE: A lot of you folks are being very dramatic  
River Mike : 7/6/2015 12:48 pm : link
In comment 12357763 giantgiantfan said:
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like "why would he risk it all over fireworks" or "why not hire a professional." Look, I'm assuming many of you don't live in states where you can buy fireworks and set them off legally. Every since I moved to Utah from New York I've been setting off fireworks. It's fun. I even do it drunk, sometimes very drunk. It's a simple process, you light and run.

I've never hurt myself doing it. I've never seen one of my equally drunk friends hurt themselves doing this. You act like these guys should stay in their houses and train for football non-stop. I think its badass he rented a Uhaul and filled it with fireworks. If I had large amounts of money thats probably exactly what I would do.

For all we know this was a freak accident where a firework exploded weird or early and hit his hand. He could have also been holding it to set it off...which would be dumb. The point is stop being your parents.


My first reaction was "Holy shit!" But my guess is that you are definitely under 25 years old. The pre-frontal cortex has not fully developed yet. I hope you make it.
damn, I really haven't followed this story at all  
santacruzom : 7/6/2015 12:50 pm : link
Have the details behind how this occurred been released? Was it a faulty firework, improper use, or improper use of a faulty firework?

I basically treat those things as if they were made in a poorly-regulated factory by disinterested and underpaid people in a foreign country.
Keep in mind that this did happen  
Enoch : 7/6/2015 12:51 pm : link
36 hours ago, 1000 miles from team HQ, on a holiday weekend in the part of the team's schedule where staff take vacations.

The Giants aren't going to make any decisions until after their medical folks get first-hand information. That might have happened today, but probably not any earlier.
Very concerning also is Weatherford's  
Johnny Boy : 7/6/2015 12:52 pm : link
tweeting well wishes to a great team leader. If this is an example of the intelligence level of one of the influential Giant players noted for their leadership ability then things are much worse then one can imagine.
Eric  
Joey in VA : 7/6/2015 12:53 pm : link
Not really true about the 36 hour thing. The protocol in that situation has to be to keep him protected from infection. If he has open wounds, and I assume he does, he'll be on antibiotic drips that require hospitalization. The guy blew bits of hand off, I'm sure it's not just a one day tape up and he's sent off job the hospital is doing.
RE: Eric  
Victor in CT : 7/6/2015 12:57 pm : link
In comment 12357985 Joey in VA said:
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Not really true about the 36 hour thing. The protocol in that situation has to be to keep him protected from infection. If he has open wounds, and I assume he does, he'll be on antibiotic drips that require hospitalization. The guy blew bits of hand off, I'm sure it's not just a one day tape up and he's sent off job the hospital is doing.


I guess we won't have to worry about him "grabbing" instead of "tackling". :-)
Lombardi "what the hell is going on out there?!" - ( New Window )
Can he  
Joey in VA : 7/6/2015 12:59 pm : link
Play with a hook?
RE: WFAN  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/6/2015 1:00 pm : link
In comment 12357593 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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starting off with the Mets after JPP almost blows off his hand ,I swear this station sucks and its not even a mets station anymore thats the funny thing


Typical WFAN. They got to address all of those fun Met trades that have no chance of happening. Idiots galore.
Joey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/6/2015 1:04 pm : link
Not my words, Jordan's.
RE: Can he  
Victor in CT : 7/6/2015 1:12 pm : link
In comment 12357995 Joey in VA said:
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Play with a hook?


Wooden hand
To the Lumberyard!!!!!!!! - ( New Window )
JPP contract?  
YATITLE : 7/6/2015 1:19 pm : link
If he and Giants sign tender (tag) contract - is it guaranteed or can the Giants cut him and not lose $??
RE: JPP contract?  
pjcas18 : 7/6/2015 1:21 pm : link
In comment 12358059 YATITLE said:
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If he and Giants sign tender (tag) contract - is it guaranteed or can the Giants cut him and not lose $??


once signed it's guaranteed. I think NFI (non-football injuries) allow them to NOT pay him, but I'm not sure sure.

At this point it's not signed though.
JPP isn't going  
santacruzom : 7/6/2015 1:24 pm : link
to make his millions thanks to his intelligence, but to assume he has none at all is kind of stupidly unfair. It's like you guys read this report and conjure a mental image of JPP blankly staring at the rapidly-diminishing lit fuse of a firecracker that remains in his tight grasp.

It's probably safe to generally assume that people who injure themselves with firecrackers are not likely to be intellectually gifted, but it's also possible that he operated within the generally accepted parameters of fireworks usage and the thing was faulty.
Giants rescinded their $60 million offer to him.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/6/2015 1:25 pm : link
Obviously, they're not blaming it on a "faulty firecracker."
wfan has done a nice job with this today  
YorkAveGiant : 7/6/2015 1:29 pm : link
there really is nothing to say other than letting callers come on and bash JPP. whats to gain with that?? theyve done updates all morning on him.
RE: Can he  
jeff57 : 7/6/2015 1:30 pm : link
In comment 12357995 Joey in VA said:
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Play with a hook?


Only if he dresses like this.

In addition to the treatment of the wounds  
Rob in CT/NYC : 7/6/2015 1:33 pm : link
With antibiotics, he may possibly need a skin graft for the reported burns - that would keep him in the hospital for at least a week.

Feel bad for the kid, burns are incredibly painful...
Prayers  
AcidTest : 7/6/2015 1:59 pm : link
for JPP. Best wishes. Get well soon.
RE: RE: JPP contract?  
SGMen : 7/6/2015 2:02 pm : link
In comment 12358063 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12358059 YATITLE said:


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If he and Giants sign tender (tag) contract - is it guaranteed or can the Giants cut him and not lose $??



once signed it's guaranteed. I think NFI (non-football injuries) allow them to NOT pay him, but I'm not sure sure.

At this point it's not signed though.
I am pretty sure that since the tender was not signed AND he suffered a non-football injury the Giants can't rescind the tender and be done with JPP. He'd be a free agent able to sign with anyone else.

I think it will be at least a few days before we see what the Giants are going to do here. Much of the decision will be based on the extent of his injuries. I mean, if he is expected to be limited early in the year do you pay him all that money AND deal with all the "talk" regarding the accident?

Given today's NFL, the salary cap, the injury, etc., I think you play this one smart. If JPP will be 100% by day 1 of camp you pay him and let him play out the year. The incident has likely humbled JPP a bit and that may be the silver lining in all of this.

If you cut bait with him someone will likely still sign him to big enough money to get us a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick I'd think? Hard to say right now.

Hoping for good health & JPP's humbleness / gratitude to shine through.
your new defensive end  
Gordo : 7/6/2015 2:26 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: JPP contract?  
pjcas18 : 7/6/2015 2:36 pm : link
In comment 12358207 SGMen said:
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In comment 12358063 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 12358059 YATITLE said:


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If he and Giants sign tender (tag) contract - is it guaranteed or can the Giants cut him and not lose $??



once signed it's guaranteed. I think NFI (non-football injuries) allow them to NOT pay him, but I'm not sure sure.

At this point it's not signed though.

I am pretty sure that since the tender was not signed AND he suffered a non-football injury the Giants can't rescind the tender and be done with JPP. He'd be a free agent able to sign with anyone else.

I think it will be at least a few days before we see what the Giants are going to do here. Much of the decision will be based on the extent of his injuries. I mean, if he is expected to be limited early in the year do you pay him all that money AND deal with all the "talk" regarding the accident?

Given today's NFL, the salary cap, the injury, etc., I think you play this one smart. If JPP will be 100% by day 1 of camp you pay him and let him play out the year. The incident has likely humbled JPP a bit and that may be the silver lining in all of this.

If you cut bait with him someone will likely still sign him to big enough money to get us a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick I'd think? Hard to say right now.

Hoping for good health & JPP's humbleness / gratitude to shine through.


they can rescind the tender no matter what for any reason before it's signed.
RE: RE: RE: A lot of you folks are being very dramatic  
Bill in UT : 7/6/2015 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12357928 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12357827 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 12357763 giantgiantfan said:


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like "why would he risk it all over fireworks" or "why not hire a professional." Look, I'm assuming many of you don't live in states where you can buy fireworks and set them off legally. Every since I moved to Utah from New York I've been setting off fireworks. It's fun. I even do it drunk, sometimes very drunk. It's a simple process, you light and run.

I've never hurt myself doing it. I've never seen one of my equally drunk friends hurt themselves doing this. You act like these guys should stay in their houses and train for football non-stop. I think its badass he rented a Uhaul and filled it with fireworks. If I had large amounts of money thats probably exactly what I would do.

For all we know this was a freak accident where a firework exploded weird or early and hit his hand. He could have also been holding it to set it off...which would be dumb. The point is stop being your parents.



If you moved to Utah, you're obviously an idiot :)



Could be worse, not so bad if you're in downtown Salt Lake :-) Where you located?


I retired last year and moved to AZ. But I was in Ogden for 17 years
Saint Barnabas in Livingston has a facility that actually grows  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 7/6/2015 6:25 pm : link
tissue for burn victims. I had a coworkers son have is scrotum sac and balls burned up when his gas tank on Moped exploded.

He spent three months in hospital isolated for infection and they grew the tissue to repair his privates.
Of  
Rob in CT/NYC : 7/6/2015 9:22 pm : link
Course,,,,
A post like that can only come from  
David in LA : 7/6/2015 9:42 pm : link
the fingertips of Rich in Houston.
RE: Saint Barnabas in Livingston has a facility that actually grows  
short lease : 7/11/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12358903 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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tissue for burn victims. I had a coworkers son have is scrotum sac and balls burned up when his gas tank on Moped exploded.

He spent three months in hospital isolated for infection and they grew the tissue to repair his privates.


Lol ... Post of the year - nominee.
It's heartening to know  
Modus Operandi : 7/11/2015 4:07 pm : link
That there are organizations out there formed solely to assist souls with burned scrotum sacs.

Thanks Rich.
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